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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2016年10月16日 at 下午 08:02:23

Artist: Nana Mizuki
Title: STARTING NOW!
Source: この美術部には問題がある!
Tags: Kono Bijutsubu ni wa Mondai ga Aru! This Art Club Has a Problem! Konobi Comedy Romance School feel Regraz AliomLoung DreaM117er Pata-Mon
BPM: 182
Filesize: 22727kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. 117's Insane (4.56 stars, 369 notes)
  2. ad (2.36 stars, 216 notes)
  3. AliomLoung's Easy (1.47 stars, 100 notes)
  4. hd (2.28 stars, 34 notes)
  5. Normal (1.78 stars, 126 notes)
  6. Pata-Mon's Insane (5.08 stars, 375 notes)
  7. reducestars (3.13 stars, 166 notes)
  8. reducesv (2.81 stars, 68 notes)
  9. test (3.01 stars, 68 notes)
  10. test1 (2.85 stars, 70 notes)
  11. testing (2.72 stars, 59 notes)
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這是我第一次作圖~
謝謝我的大家給我很多建議
Regraz,Kencho, -Riko-, AMMOCK, -Sorata, karta1208873,Binguo,Pata-Mon
Regraz 大大之神~ 教我很多很作圖技巧知識~

Easy by AliomLoung
Normal by me
Insane by Pata-Mon ,DreaM117er
Mafumafu
首先说一下硬伤,硬伤就是不符合现在谱面上架规则的,上架规则可以在osu!wiki查到

1. 现在已一般不用l Normal+ 作为难度名称。 Normal和Hard之间的难度可以用Advanced代替。不过我个人觉得你的Norma+意义不大。由于你的Normal和Hard难度差距确实很大,你的确需要在Normal和Hard之间加入一个难度。但是现在的Normal+难度太近似于Normal所以并没有起到这个作用。

2. Easy难度没有设定音频预览时间。这个是必须要设的。

3. 你的背景视频有音乐,按照规定背景视频的音频轨道必须删除。

4. 你的音频比特率是319,这个超出了规则中规定的192的限制。你需要将你的音频文件转为192kbps

5. Source里面的内容就不用在tag内再写了
Topic Starter
-SuGon-

Regraz wrote:

首先说一下硬伤,硬伤就是不符合现在谱面上架规则的,上架规则可以在osu!wiki查到

1. 现在已一般不用l Normal+ 作为难度名称。 Normal和Hard之间的难度可以用Advanced代替。不过我个人觉得你的Norma+意义不大。由于你的Normal和Hard难度差距确实很大,你的确需要在Normal和Hard之间加入一个难度。但是现在的Normal+难度太近似于Normal所以并没有起到这个作用。

2. Easy难度没有设定音频预览时间。这个是必须要设的。

3. 你的背景视频有音乐,按照规定背景视频的音频轨道必须删除。

4. 你的音频比特率是319,这个超出了规则中规定的192的限制。你需要将你的音频文件转为192kbps

5. Source里面的内容就不用在tag内再写了


[Easy-]
01:04:863 (1) 01:10:138 (1) 这两个转盘之后的空余时间不足,按照规定Easy难度需要有至少四个白线的空余时间

[Normal]
01:13:022 - 应该结束在1/4之后

[Normal+]
00:32:803 - 应该开始于1/4之后

[Hard]
01:28:270 这个长度太短了


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先歇一会 一会再补上
謝謝你,我改好了

我有些問題想請教你,為什麼我感覺我做的圖跟大多數的圖不太一樣,另外我hard AR沒辦法條高,開HR變成很難打,然後關於Normal+,我想把期中一個弄成easy是不是㑹比較好@@?可是不知系統是怎麼判定的
Mafumafu
[Easy-]
01:04:863 (1) 01:10:138 (1) 这两个转盘之后的空余时间不足,按照规定Easy难度需要有至少四个白线的空余时间

[Normal]
01:13:022 - 应该结束在1/4之后

[Normal+]
00:32:803 - 应该开始于1/4之后

[Hard]
01:28:270 这个长度太短了


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IRC LOG1
20:49 clementyan: 嗨嗨@@
20:49 Regraz: hi
20:50 clementyan: regraz我有一首歌 他在歌曲清單中 音樂名稱前面不會出現縮圖 你知道是什麼原因嗎
20:51 Regraz: 客户端的问题不要担心 只要你的BG格式正确就行 不影响别的
20:51 clementyan: 好
20:57 clementyan: 我現在上傳給你檢查@@?
20:57 Regraz: hao1
20:57 Regraz: 好
20:58 clementyan: 恩
20:58 Regraz: 难度名叫Easy或者Normal就好不要有其他的符号
21:00 clementyan: 好
21:00 clementyan: 可是友人的id 是 [ Riho ]
21:00 Regraz: 这个可以啊
21:01 Regraz: 我是说不要Easy- Normal+
21:01 clementyan: 好
21:01 clementyan: ok
21:01 clementyan: t/489491
21:01 Regraz: 恩我下载一下
21:03 clementyan: 請問rank後的圖還可以做修改嗎?
21:03 Regraz: 不可以
21:03 Regraz: 不过rank是个很艰难的过程暂时还不用担心 :D
21:04 clementyan: 是喔
21:04 clementyan: 我去發文請大家幫我mod
21:04 Regraz: 你的背景视频是什么格式的啊
21:05 clementyan: mp4
21:05 Regraz: 换成avi或者flv
21:05 Regraz: mp4不支持
21:05 Regraz: 我说我想下载没视频的版本结果还包含了视频
21:05 clementyan: 可是規則上不是寫mp4嗎@@
21:05 Regraz: mp4的话下载不能分离
21:06 clementyan: 那我要去轉檔看看
21:06 clementyan: ok
21:06 Regraz: 不过规则那里有写mp4 ;w;?
21:06 Regraz: 哪里?
21:07 clementyan: 難道我看錯了嗎=口=
21:08 Regraz: 你是不是看了别的版本的?
21:08 Regraz: 应该以英语的为主
21:08 Regraz: 别的版本年代久远没有更新
21:08 clementyan: 我是看中文的 我好像把mp3看成mp4
21:08 Regraz: 额
21:09 Regraz: 呃*
21:09 clementyan: = ="
21:09 Regraz: 你转一下格式再上传下吧
21:09 clementyan: 好
21:24 clementyan: t/489491
21:24 clementyan: ok
21:26 Regraz: 好
21:28 clementyan: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/338759
21:29 clementyan: 這邊中文論壇 可以找人幫我mod嗎
21:29 Regraz: 这个似乎不能。。。。
21:30 Regraz: 虽然有点令人沮丧,不过。。。找mod一般。。。。一般靠关系。。。
21:30 clementyan: 那有中文的論壇 可以找mod嗎@@
21:30 clementyan: 是喔
21:30 clementyan: 難怪 我發了很多篇 大家都略過我
21:31 Regraz: 你刚开始肯定比较艰难啊 要多认识人
21:31 clementyan: 恩@@
21:31 Regraz: 比如你可以私信一些华语Mapper大佬
21:31 Regraz: 就说是第一张图求些建议
21:31 clementyan: 喔喔!~~
21:31 Regraz: 哪怕是irc说几句都行
21:31 clementyan: 對耶
21:32 *Regraz is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1060761 Nana Mizuki - STARTING NOW! [Easy]]
21:32 Regraz: 先说下Easy
21:33 Regraz: 啊不
21:33 Regraz: 先说下整体
21:33 Regraz: 第一个 去掉Countdown就是图一开始的倒数音效
21:33 Regraz: 那个不适合这种动漫曲子
21:33 Regraz: 在设置里
21:34 Regraz: Song Setup - Design - Enable Countdown
21:35 Regraz: 不好意思啊刚才断线了
21:35 Regraz: 我没收到你发的
21:35 Regraz: 你收到我发的了吗
21:35 clementyan: 恩
21:35 clementyan: 沒有
21:36 Regraz: 先从整体说
21:36 clementyan: 恩
21:36 Regraz: Song Setup - Design - Enable Countdown勾掉
21:36 Regraz: 去掉玩的时候一开始的倒数音效
21:36 Regraz: 不适合这种动漫曲子
21:36 clementyan: 是喔@@
21:36 Regraz: 然后呢
21:37 clementyan: 我以為easy要加= ="
21:37 Regraz: 你需要把你GDer的id写在tag里
21:37 clementyan: ok~~
21:37 Regraz: 这个是规定
21:37 clementyan: 好
21:39 Regraz: 还有音频预览时间一般设置在副歌的开始
21:39 clementyan: 這個是什麼我有點不太懂這個的意思
21:39 clementyan: 音頻預覽
21:39 Regraz: 副歌啊
21:39 Regraz: 音频预览
21:39 Regraz: 就是Preview Time
21:40 Regraz: 从别的歌的界面切换到这个歌
21:40 Regraz: 就会播放
21:40 Regraz: 从音频预览的地方开始播放
21:40 clementyan: 喔喔!!!!!
21:40 clementyan: 原來如此
21:40 clementyan: 好
21:40 clementyan: 副歌寄售最好聽的部分對嗎
21:40 clementyan: 就是
21:40 Regraz: 唉
21:42 Regraz: 算了 你可以直接把音频预览设置在 00:43:270 (1) -
21:43 Regraz: 或者他的1/2之前
21:43 Regraz: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%89%AF%E6%AD%8C
21:45 Regraz: Kiai一般也位于副歌
21:45 Regraz: 其实你可以看看其他近2年来rank的图是怎么放Kiai的
21:46 clementyan: 好像就是放在副歌
21:46 clementyan: 我以為那段都是副歌
21:46 clementyan: 所以就是唱歌重複的歌詞才是副歌
21:46 Regraz: 简单讲 就是最激烈的部分
21:47 Regraz: 歌曲最高昂的部分
21:47 clementyan: 恩
21:47 Regraz: 副歌一般是两段
21:47 Regraz: 也有三段和四段不过很少
21:47 clementyan: 恩
21:48 clementyan: 不過我標的那段不是都很激昂嗎@@
21:48 Regraz: 另外BG尺寸应该是1024X768和1366X768
21:49 Regraz: 你在哪里标的?
21:49 Regraz: 我似乎没看到啊
21:49 Regraz: qwq
21:49 clementyan: 就是kiai那整段呵呵
21:50 clementyan: hard裡面
21:51 Regraz: 唔 我看的别的难度
21:51 Regraz: 那你就把别的难度都加上吧
21:51 Regraz: 这个应该是统一的
21:52 clementyan: 那我標那邊是對的嗎
21:52 clementyan: 好~
21:52 Regraz: 开始在1/2之后
21:52 clementyan: 謝謝 Regraz大大 ^^
21:52 clementyan: 恩恩
21:52 Regraz: 01:19:039 (9) - 结束在这里
21:52 clementyan: 喔喔因為二分之一後才重複對嗎
21:53 Regraz: 因为你这首歌属于钹音落后了1/2
21:56 clementyan: 大大好厲害喔
21:56 clementyan: 你怎麼看得@@
21:57 clementyan: 為什麼結尾在那邊@@
22:04 clementyan: bg 我只有800*600@@
22:04 clementyan: 我再去找好了
22:07 Regraz: 因为那里之后只剩一小节vocal
22:07 Regraz: 诶呀突然发现一个严重的问题
22:07 Regraz: 你这个timing是错的
22:08 Regraz: 应该所有都延后一个短白线
22:08 clementyan: bpm 真假
22:08 Regraz: bpm对的
22:08 Regraz: offset错了
22:08 clementyan: bpm是182不是嗎@@
22:08 clementyan: 是喔
22:09 clementyan: 你怎麼看出我的offset是錯的@@
22:09 Regraz: 一般大白线位于钹音
22:10 Regraz: 而地鼓(似乎叫这个?)位于每一个小节的第二个或者第四个短白线
22:10 clementyan: offset直不是就是音樂的第一個起因嗎@@
22:10 Regraz: 不是
22:10 clementyan: 是喔
22:10 Regraz: 这个可不一定
22:11 Regraz: 有很多曲子还有滑音
22:11 clementyan: 好複雜喔@@
22:11 Regraz: 有的还可能多一个小节
22:11 clementyan: 是喔...
22:11 Regraz: 一般来说通过钹和地鼓(似乎叫这个)判断
22:12 clementyan: 你說大白線應該在鈸音嗎?
22:12 Regraz: 一般来说是的
22:12 Regraz: 但是不一定每个小节都有
22:12 Regraz: 大概是四个小节有一个
22:13 clementyan: 那鈸音要怎麼看@@?
22:13 Regraz: 就是听起来很像Finish的那个
22:13 Regraz: 比如 00:38:160 (1) -
22:15 clementyan: 有點難董
22:15 clementyan: 那我圖該不會要重做了@@?
22:15 Regraz: 不会啊
22:15 Regraz: 你只要改一下offset就行了
22:15 clementyan: 好險阿
22:15 clementyan: 嚇死我了
22:15 Regraz: 不过重做很正常
22:16 Regraz: 一般第一张图都要重做好多次
22:16 clementyan: 我已經重作好幾遍了 :(
22:16 Regraz: 你要去找有经验的modder让他们给你找出问题所在 有针对性的重做
22:16 Regraz: 如果自己重做的话效果也不是很好
22:16 clementyan: 再重作會要了我的命=口="
22:17 clementyan: 我這突你會覺得有很大的問題嗎@@?
22:18 Regraz: Offset 1227
22:18 Regraz: 不要担心我第一张图重做了十一次
22:19 Regraz: 还有一个你作图的时候要取消Grid Snap
22:19 Regraz: 这个功能不好 它会毁坏你的DS还有其他的一些东西
22:19 clementyan: 是喔
22:20 clementyan: 開grid snap不好喔
22:20 Regraz: 恩
22:20 *Regraz is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1060761 Nana Mizuki - STARTING NOW! [Easy]]
22:20 Regraz: DS
22:20 clementyan: ds什麼
22:20 Regraz: Distance
22:20 Regraz: Snap
22:20 Regraz: 做Easy Normal要开着这个
22:20 clementyan: 是喔!!
22:20 clementyan: 恩我是有開ds
22:20 clementyan: 不過gs我沒關
22:21 Regraz: 所以你要开着这个 然后关闭Grid Snap
22:21 Regraz: 重新拖一遍所有note
22:21 Regraz: Easy和Normal的
22:21 Regraz: 因为你现在的间距波动仍然很大
22:21 Regraz: 一看就是没关GridSnap造成的
22:21 clementyan: 了解了
22:22 clementyan: 大大你好強喔
22:22 Regraz: ??
22:22 Regraz: 然后下一个问题
22:23 Regraz: 你没有音效
22:23 Regraz: 这个是unrankable的
22:24 clementyan: 我條完offset感覺就整個往前移 我好像都不用再度情它的地方耶0.0
22:24 clementyan: 是喔=口=
22:24 clementyan: 音效喔
22:24 Regraz: 你调完整个offset当然要重新挪一下时间轴上的所有note
22:25 Regraz: 保证他们不unsnap
22:25 clementyan: 恩恩
22:25 clementyan: 好
22:25 clementyan: 大大你怎麼算offset是1227壓@@
22:26 Regraz: 听出来的啊
22:26 Regraz: 开25%速度
22:26 Regraz: 听
22:26 clementyan: 真的全部跑跳了
22:27 Regraz: 当然
22:27 clementyan: 跑掉了
22:27 Regraz: 当然全都不对了
22:27 clementyan: 挖...大工程耶...
22:27 Regraz: Ctrl+A
22:27 Regraz: 全选
22:27 Regraz: 然后在时间轴上拖动
22:28 Regraz: 让第一个note对准offset所在位置
22:28 clementyan: 不用一個一個重新放喔@@?
22:28 Regraz: 不用
22:28 clementyan: 是喔
22:28 clementyan: 好險阿 館然是高手
22:28 Regraz: 所以你不要一个一个弄
22:28 Regraz: 如果你弄了那就都完了
22:28 clementyan: 我差點一個一個移動
22:28 Regraz: 啊
22:28 Regraz: 恩
22:28 Regraz: 因为offset只是改变位置
22:29 clementyan: 挖謝謝 Regraz 神~~
22:29 Regraz: 每个note之间的时间间隔是不变的
22:29 Regraz: 所以可以一起移动
22:29 clementyan: 恩恩~~ :)
22:29 Regraz: 至于音效
22:29 Regraz: 唉以后再说吧
22:29 Regraz: 先不着急
22:30 clementyan: 恩
22:30 clementyan: 不過我還是不太知道要怎麼看offset的值
22:31 Regraz: 那个是timing的
22:31 Regraz: 不是看出来的
22:31 Regraz: 是听出来的。。
22:31 Regraz: 1227-1240应该都可以
22:32 clementyan: 恩
22:46 clementyan: 大大 你是從音樂最前面最先聽到鈸音
22:46 clementyan: 那個鈸音的offset是1227這樣嗎?
22:46 Regraz: 不不不
22:50 clementyan: 一個小節是不是裡面中間會夾了三個小白線
22:50 Regraz: 对
22:50 Regraz: 一般是这样
22:50 Regraz: 2/4拍子的歌曲
22:52 clementyan: 恩
23:03 *Regraz is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1060761 Nana Mizuki - STARTING NOW! [Easy]]
23:03 Regraz: 1.4x SV有点太快了
23:04 clementyan: sv @@?
23:04 Regraz: Slider Velocity
23:04 Regraz: 而且你全曲都用的0.5x
23:05 Regraz: 还不如直接用0.7
23:05 Regraz: 的SV
23:06 clementyan: 怎麼說@@?
23:06 Regraz: 你用0.7的SV
23:06 Regraz: 我的意思是
23:06 Regraz: 然后把那些0.5x的绿线全都删掉
23:07 clementyan: 喔
23:07 clementyan: 是這樣子喔
23:07 clementyan: 比較好@@?
23:07 Regraz: 不是比较好
23:07 Regraz: 是因为0.5x绿线存在没有意义
23:07 Regraz: 没什么不直接用0.7的SV
23:07 clementyan: 是喔
23:07 Regraz: 非要1.4的SV然后再0.5x?
23:08 clementyan: 對耶
23:08 Regraz: 下一个问题
23:08 Regraz: 你的DS用1.2吧
23:08 Regraz: 现在1/1的note都会擦边
23:08 clementyan: 1
23:08 Regraz: 用1.2
23:08 Regraz: 然后所有note重新拖一遍
23:09 clementyan: 是喔
23:09 clementyan: 恩好的
23:09 Regraz: 那个DS固定你会改吧?
23:09 Regraz: 就是按住Alt
23:09 clementyan: 案alt
23:09 Regraz: 右上角
23:09 Regraz: 恩
23:09 clementyan: 好
23:09 clementyan: 可是怎麼知道是1.2@@?
23:14 Regraz: 你按住Alt右上角那个滑块就会显示啊
23:14 Regraz: 掉线了
23:14 clementyan: 恩
23:14 clementyan: 那怎麼知道 要調1.2@@?
23:15 Regraz: 你调到1.2 1/1的note就不会擦边了
23:15 clementyan: 恩恩~
23:16 clementyan: 果然是神一看就看出來www
23:16 Regraz: ??
23:16 Regraz: 这个你自己尝试就可以了
23:16 Regraz: 很简单的
23:17 Regraz: 然后你注意
23:17 Regraz: Easy一般不用1/2
23:17 Regraz: 一般都是1/1或者2/1
23:17 clementyan: 是喔
23:18 clementyan: 好
23:18 Regraz: 然后注意note和slider slider和slider之间不要有重叠
23:18 Regraz: 除非是note叠在一起或者note叠在滑条头
23:18 Regraz: Easy也一般不会这样
23:19 Regraz: 不过有一两个无所谓
23:19 Regraz: Normal同理
23:19 Regraz: 叠在一起的note Easy Normal的话也不要大于两个
23:19 clementyan: normal 也很少用紅線喔@@
23:19 Regraz: 红线一般只有一个
23:19 clementyan: 是喔
23:19 Regraz: 除非是变BPM 变Offset的曲子才会有多个红线
23:19 Regraz: 绿线有多个
23:20 clementyan: normal 紅線只能有一個喔!!=口=
23:20 Regraz: 不一定
23:20 Regraz: 可以有很多红线
23:20 Regraz: 有的图BPM不稳定可以有上百根红线
23:20 *Regraz is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/200312 MiddleIsland - Roze]
23:20 Regraz: 比如这张图
23:20 clementyan: 我是說normal可以放 1/2 紅線上嗎
23:20 Regraz: 你说的是那个红线啊
23:20 Regraz: 那个叫1/2
23:21 Regraz: Normal可以用一些1/2
23:21 Regraz: 不要连着太多
23:21 Regraz: 我会以为你说的是timing的红线呢
23:21 clementyan: 恩好 知道了
23:21 Regraz: 差不多今天先说这些吧 你可以自己改改
23:22 Regraz: 明天接着再看看
23:22 clementyan: 你說note 和 slider之間不要重疊
23:22 Regraz: 恩
23:22 Regraz: 是不要有遮挡
23:22 clementyan: 是喔
23:22 Regraz: note可以叠在滑条头
23:22 clementyan: 所以我有很多遮擋對不對
23:22 Regraz: 但是你不能把半个note藏在滑条下面
23:22 Regraz: 这个就很不美观了
23:22 Regraz: 也不好打
23:22 Regraz: 所以要注意排版
23:22 clementyan: 原來如此
23:23 clementyan: 那advance跟hard要改嗎?
23:23 Regraz: adv hard以后我再说吧
23:23 clementyan: 重疊的部分
23:23 Regraz: 先把easy弄好
23:23 clementyan: 好~~
23:23 Regraz: 一个一个弄
23:24 clementyan: 好
23:24 clementyan: 謝謝大大神
23:24 Regraz: 噗 没事
==========================
Recheck:
[Easy]
建议每隔一个大白线设置一个NC
00:13:095 (3,1) - 这两个平行会美观一点 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5939897 以后也要多用用平行啦等等整齐的pattern 图会更好看
00:17:051 (5,7) - 几乎都贴在一起了 不好
00:24:633 (3) - 不知道你这里再跟什么 vocal明显开始在大白线
00:31:556 (5,1) - 不能有重叠
00:32:875 (1,2,3) - 弯曲度太大,用平滑一点的滑条
00:43:095 (1,3) - 你仔细听听对没对准vocal
Jonarwhal
NM from queue
I made a GD for this song once upon a time
[General]
  1. Add to tags: This Art Club Has a Problem! Konobi Comedy Romance School feel
  2. Also, "lolilove" must be in all of the difficulty's tags.
  3. Set Custom combo colors.
  4. Make the timing consistent across difficulties.
  5. Why no storyboard in the GD?
  6. Add an epilepsy warning.
  7. Timing>Resnap All Notes. Do that in every difficulty.
  8. Remove the duplicate files from the song folder.
  9. Make use of your custom hitsounds, and change the name of "soft-sliderslide - òíÉ╗.wav".
[Normal]
  1. 00:01:227 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Clear claps in this section. (Press "r" twice with the section highlighted.) I recommend this because the guitar is the only instrument, which doesn't need claps.
  2. 00:27:270 (1) - offscreen when playing
  3. 00:30:073 (5) - too much hp overlap (rankable but ugly)
  4. 00:39:468 (4,5,6) - Since you're following the lyrics, a better rhythm is this:
  5. 00:40:622 (1) - this makes more sense ending on a white tick
  6. 00:48:369 (1) - overlap here is needless, maybe stack with 00:48:534 (2) - this?
  7. 00:56:611 (1) - rhythm,
  8. 01:03:040 (3,4) - fix blanket
  9. 01:15:073 - same rhythm as other sugestion
  10. 01:20:347 (1,2) - overlap is needless
[Advanced]
  1. hitsounds? you can use the copier if you want: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/131540
  2. This difficulty lacks proper aesthetics and rhythmic imo.
  3. A rhymic example: 00:01:227 (1) - This is a bad use of a repeat because there's no sound 00:01:556 - here and the strong sound 00:01:886 - here in unclickable.
  4. An aesthetic example: 00:02:875 (3,4) - your countless failed blankets. >.<
  5. This is why I seriously recommend either removing or remapping this difficulty.
Good Luck~!!
[Kurose Riku]
[General]

- 所有難度的Tag不一致

[Normal]
00:32:875 (4) - New Combo?

[Advanced]
01:24:633 (5) - 這個滑條在白線完比較好 01:24:963 -

01:04:358 (1) - 副歌通常是歌曲高潮的部份 我覺得放轉盤不太明智@@..
01:09:303 (1) - ^ 嗯..不過我也不知道怎樣弄比較好

[lolilove's Insane]

- 紅線好像要跟其他難度統一才行

00:01:144 (1) - 你的note好像歪掉了 節奏對不上@@
後面有很多也是
Otosaka-Yu
IRC
2016-09-16 11:40 Suzuki_1112: 啊,說一下你的圖,別人給你的gd那個sb好像有問題
2016-09-16 11:40 Suzuki_1112: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1060763 Nana Mizuki - STARTING NOW! [lolilove's Insane]]
2016-09-16 11:41 -SuGon-: 你說沒統一嗎
2016-09-16 11:41 -SuGon-: 00:04:200 (3,5) - 這邊重疊0.0
2016-09-16 11:42 -SuGon-: 00:08:100 (2,3) - 這邊也是
2016-09-16 11:42 Suzuki_1112: 這個地方可以接受,但是非
2016-09-16 11:43 Suzuki_1112: 1/4下在藍線的地方不要這麼做
2016-09-16 11:43 -SuGon-: 0.0?
2016-09-16 11:43 Suzuki_1112: 所以00:05:018 (3,4) - 要分開
2016-09-16 11:44 Suzuki_1112: 00:07:655 (1,2,3,4) - 可以接受所以不用改
2016-09-16 11:44 -SuGon-: 你說我的圖嗎
2016-09-16 11:44 Suzuki_1112: 是
2016-09-16 11:45 -SuGon-: 好我等等看
2016-09-16 11:45 -SuGon-: 我們等等把他打在網頁上
2016-09-16 11:46 Suzuki_1112: 誒多,你的gd質量不是很好啊,非gd比gd做的比較差,雖然不是打擊什麼的
2016-09-16 11:47 -SuGon-: 恩
2016-09-16 11:47 Suzuki_1112: lolilove's In那裏把widescreen support打開吧
2016-09-16 11:48 -SuGon-: widscreen support @@?
2016-09-16 11:48 Suzuki_1112: 在song setup那裏
2016-09-16 11:48 Suzuki_1112: 然後打開design
2016-09-16 11:49 Suzuki_1112: 因爲看了一下,這圖如果要做sb,一定要打開,現在沒有圖是不打開widescreen的
2016-09-16 11:51 -SuGon-: widescreen是做什麼用的@@?
2016-09-16 11:52 Suzuki_1112: 不打開widescreen,你的視頻就會變成4:3,就是說看起來會變窄。打開widescreen,你的視頻就是16:9,就是說看起來就是能全屏幕填滿
2016-09-16 11:52 Suzuki_1112: 打開感受一下就知道了0.0
2016-09-16 11:53 -SuGon-: WOW~
2016-09-16 11:55 Suzuki_1112: 關於GD我說的是基本問題,其他的我就不摸了,由於間距和擺放的鼓點使得這個gd diff變得非常不科學
2016-09-16 11:55 Suzuki_1112: 需要remap
2016-09-16 11:56 -SuGon-: 恩@@
還有,要加combo colour的>~<
也務必請檢查一下AiMod
以上
Edit: 美術部超棒的啊!
Chinoya
只摸了一半 lolilove's Insane。
主要問題在於 Notes 放錯位,理論上除了連打外藍線不應放 Notes。
[通用]
  1. 不同難度的 Tags 不一致。
[lolilove's Insane]
  1. 大量物件的時間軸未對齊。
  2. 00:43:259 - Kiai Time 的時間軸未對齊。
  3. 00:01:144 (1) - 起點應為 00:01:227,終點應為 00:01:556。
  4. 00:01:804 (2) - 移至 00:01:886。
  5. 00:02:463 (3) - 起點應為 00:02:380,終點應為 00:02:710。
  6. 00:02:793 (4) - 移至 00:02:875。
  7. 00:02:875 (5) - 移至 00:03:040。
  8. 00:03:205 (1) - 不應為 New Combo。
  9. 00:05:842 (1) - 同上。
  10. 00:06:419 (2) - 起點應為 00:06:336,終點應為 00:06:501。
  11. 00:08:809 (5) - 終點應為 00:08:974。
  12. 00:09:056 (1) - 起點應為 00:09:139,終點應為 00:09:303。
  13. 00:10:375 (5) - 起點應為 00:10:292,終點應為 00:10:622。
  14. 00:10:869 (1) - 移至 00:10:787。
  15. 00:11:034 (2) - 移至 00:10:952。
  16. 00:11:199 (3) - 移至 00:11:117。
  17. 00:11:446 (4) - 起點應為 00:11:446,終點應為 00:11:611。
  18. 00:18:699 - 這裏插入一個 Notes 比較自然。
  19. 00:23:562 (5) - 太混亂,不如以連打代替?
  20. 00:23:727 (6) - 同上。
  21. 00:23:891 (7) - 同上。
  22. 00:24:056 (8) - 同上。
  23. 00:24:221 (9) - 同上。
  24. 00:35:183 (3) - 終點應為 00:35:512。
  25. 00:36:172 (5) - 終點應為 00:36:501。
  26. 00:38:809 (4) - 終點應為 00:39:139。
  27. 00:40:787 (5) - 終點應為 00:41:109。
  28. 00:41:177 (1) - 終點應為 00:41:578。
  29. 00:41:646 (2) - 起點應為 00:41:734,終點應為 00:42:203。
  30. 00:43:260 (2) - 移至 00:43:297。
  31. 00:45:083 (3) - 移至 00:45:015。
  32. 00:45:396 (4) - 移至 00:45:328。
  33. 00:45:630 (5) - 起點應為 00:41:734,終點應為 00:42:203。
Topic Starter
-SuGon-

Jonawaga wrote:

NM from queue
I made a GD for this song once upon a time
[General]
  1. Add to tags: This Art Club Has a Problem! Konobi Comedy Romance School feel Fixed
  2. Also, "lolilove" must be in all of the difficulty's tags. Fixed
  3. Set Custom combo colors. Will work on it later
  4. Make the timing consistent across difficulties. Fixed
  5. Why no storyboard in the GD? Fixed
  6. Add an epilepsy warning. Will work on it later
  7. Timing>Resnap All Notes. Do that in every difficulty. Fixed
  8. Remove the duplicate files from the song folder. Fixed
  9. Make use of your custom hitsounds, and change the name of "soft-sliderslide - òíÉ╗.wav".
Fixed
[Normal]
  1. 00:01:227 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Clear claps in this section. (Press "r" twice with the section highlighted.) I recommend this because the guitar is the only instrument, which doesn't need claps. Fixed
  2. 00:27:270 (1) - offscreen when playing Will work on it later
  3. 00:30:073 (5) - too much hp overlap (rankable but ugly) Fixed
  4. 00:39:468 (4,5,6) - Since you're following the lyrics, a better rhythm is this:
    Fixed
  5. 00:40:622 (1) - this makes more sense ending on a white tick Will work on it later
  6. 00:48:369 (1) - overlap here is needless, maybe stack with 00:48:534 (2) - this? Fixed
  7. 00:56:611 (1) - rhythm, Will work on it later
  8. 01:03:040 (3,4) - fix blanket Fixed
  9. 01:15:073 - same rhythm as other sugestion Will work on it later
  10. 01:20:347 (1,2) - overlap is needless
Fixed
[Advanced]
  1. hitsounds? you can use the copier if you want: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/131540
  2. This difficulty lacks proper aesthetics and rhythmic imo.
  3. A rhymic example: 00:01:227 (1) - This is a bad use of a repeat because there's no sound 00:01:556 - here and the strong sound 00:01:886 - here in unclickable.
  4. An aesthetic example: 00:02:875 (3,4) - your countless failed blankets. >.<
  5. This is why I seriously recommend either removing or remapping this difficulty.
Will work on it later
Good Luck~!!
Thanks in advanced Aprecate :)
Topic Starter
-SuGon-

Senyako wrote:

只摸了一半 lolilove's Insane。
主要問題在於 Notes 放錯位,理論上除了連打外藍線不應放 Notes。
[通用]
  1. 不同難度的 Tags 不一致。
[lolilove's Insane]
  1. 大量物件的時間軸未對齊。
  2. 00:43:259 - Kiai Time 的時間軸未對齊。
  3. 00:01:144 (1) - 起點應為 00:01:227,終點應為 00:01:556。
  4. 00:01:804 (2) - 移至 00:01:886。
  5. 00:02:463 (3) - 起點應為 00:02:380,終點應為 00:02:710。
  6. 00:02:793 (4) - 移至 00:02:875。
  7. 00:02:875 (5) - 移至 00:03:040。
  8. 00:03:205 (1) - 不應為 New Combo。
  9. 00:05:842 (1) - 同上。
  10. 00:06:419 (2) - 起點應為 00:06:336,終點應為 00:06:501。
  11. 00:08:809 (5) - 終點應為 00:08:974。
  12. 00:09:056 (1) - 起點應為 00:09:139,終點應為 00:09:303。
  13. 00:10:375 (5) - 起點應為 00:10:292,終點應為 00:10:622。
  14. 00:10:869 (1) - 移至 00:10:787。
  15. 00:11:034 (2) - 移至 00:10:952。
  16. 00:11:199 (3) - 移至 00:11:117。
  17. 00:11:446 (4) - 起點應為 00:11:446,終點應為 00:11:611。
  18. 00:18:699 - 這裏插入一個 Notes 比較自然。
  19. 00:23:562 (5) - 太混亂,不如以連打代替?
  20. 00:23:727 (6) - 同上。
  21. 00:23:891 (7) - 同上。
  22. 00:24:056 (8) - 同上。
  23. 00:24:221 (9) - 同上。
  24. 00:35:183 (3) - 終點應為 00:35:512。
  25. 00:36:172 (5) - 終點應為 00:36:501。
  26. 00:38:809 (4) - 終點應為 00:39:139。
  27. 00:40:787 (5) - 終點應為 00:41:109。
  28. 00:41:177 (1) - 終點應為 00:41:578。
  29. 00:41:646 (2) - 起點應為 00:41:734,終點應為 00:42:203。
  30. 00:43:260 (2) - 移至 00:43:297。
  31. 00:45:083 (3) - 移至 00:45:015。
  32. 00:45:396 (4) - 移至 00:45:328。
  33. 00:45:630 (5) - 起點應為 00:41:734,終點應為 00:42:203。
修正玩了 感謝Senyako大大阿~~ 如果你有空的話再請你幫我看看 :)
Shocola
M4M pls
my map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/491184

the other 2 dif still need a lot of work but, it better than LoliLove thats why i modded this one

[ LoliLove Dif ]

00:40:787 - random 192 bpm Remove this please
00:41:656 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - combine all of this make it a stream :)
00:43:297 - starting this part you might want to put a lot of note because of kiai (also jump)
00:54:312 (1,2) - overlaps
00:58:297 - start the stream here
00:59:234 - start a lot of big jump here and end it with a stream 01:00:484 - here
01:01:734 (4) - just put a slider here
01:03:062 (3) - ^
01:03:843 (5) - ^
01:04:156 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this is the effect of the random 192 bpm
01:13:453 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^
Topic Starter
-SuGon-

[Kurose Riku] wrote:

[General]

- 所有難度的Tag不一致

[Normal]
00:32:875 (4) - New Combo? 已經改了 :)

[Advanced]
01:24:633 (5) - 這個滑條在白線完比較好 01:24:963 - 可能會remap

01:04:358 (1) - 副歌通常是歌曲高潮的部份 我覺得放轉盤不太明智@@.. 我已經先改normal了,感謝你的建議
01:09:303 (1) - ^ 嗯..不過我也不知道怎樣弄比較好 好謝謝你

[lolilove's Insane] 他的有改了

- 紅線好像要跟其他難度統一才行

00:01:144 (1) - 你的note好像歪掉了 節奏對不上@@
後面有很多也是
遲來的回覆阿~ 感謝[Kurose Riku]幫我看圖~~ :)
Mafumafu
把刚才的log发到了这里 不用给我kudosu了 因为以前给过了
irc
14:44 Regraz: 00:01:227 (1) - 
14:44 Regraz: 你这个重音别放在画条尾巴啊
14:45 -SuGon-: 你是說我的物件密度太高嗎
14:45 Regraz: 不
14:45 Regraz: 00:02:875 (3) - 你这个重音不要放在滑条尾巴
14:45 -SuGon-: 好
14:45 Regraz: 00:03:864 (5,7) -
14:45 Regraz: 这些都是
14:46 -SuGon-: 恩
14:46 Regraz: 00:03:864 (5) - 这里就要NC了
14:46 Regraz: 两个大白线NC一次
14:46 -SuGon-: 恩
14:46 Regraz: 00:12:106 (1,2,3) - 这里都跟鼓点
14:47 Regraz: 00:17:380 (1,2,3) - 这里也是
14:47 Regraz: 所有难度尽量不要用1/2以上多次折返的滑条
14:47 Regraz: 00:20:347 (1) - 所以这个就不要用了
14:47 Regraz: 换成别的
14:47 Regraz: 1/4 1/8可以考虑多次折返
14:47 Regraz: 1/2、 1/1 就别多次折返了
14:48 -SuGon-: 恩好
14:48 Regraz: 00:32:875 (1) - 这个可以做成3/2的
14:48 Regraz: 00:34:194 (3) - 就是和这个一样
14:49 Regraz: 00:35:512 (1) - 这个也是
14:49 Regraz: 00:45:897 (2) - 重音不要放在滑条尾巴
14:49 Regraz: 00:47:875 (3) - 不要有这种形状的滑条
14:49 Regraz: 从现在开始你只用2个3个点的滑条
14:50 Regraz: 等你用好了在考虑更复杂的形状
14:50 Regraz: 00:56:611 (1,2) - 尽量不要出现直角拐弯
14:50 Regraz: 也不要出现两个直滑条挨着
14:50 Regraz: 不好看’
14:50 Regraz: 一般都是一个弯的 一个直的
14:51 Regraz: 或者两个弯的
14:51 Regraz: 01:01:721 (6) - NC
14:51 Regraz: Advanced最好不要有1/4 01:17:381 (6) -
14:52 Regraz: 而且其他地方都没有你这突然来了一个
14:52 Regraz: 很突兀
14:52 Regraz: 先这些
14:55 -SuGon-: 好 OK
Signum
m4m

Normal:
00:40:457 - Add a note here for better emphasis with the previous pattern. 00:38:150 (1,2,3) -

lolilove's insane:
00:01:144 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm not sure if you applied a new timing but these notes are not snapped correctly
00:13:754 (3,4,5) - These notes should have same distance snap [image] (Same for: 00:12:435 (3,4,5) - ; 00:15:073 (3,4,5) - ; ...)
00:19:523 (5) - Snapped badly
00:20:183 - Stream should start here
00:29:743 - Missing note
00:36:831 (1) - Unsnapped
00:41:281 (1,2) - This is really bad pattern. At least shorten the first slider to 1/2 or move it next to the second slider
00:49:111 (3,4) - Badly snapped notes
And so on, there are tons of badly snapped notes or missing ones

Good luck
Froskya
Hi!~ NM from my queue! :)

General

  1. Add combo colours
  2. No need in that SB xd
  3. I'm think your timing is wrong
  4. Sorry, but that Insane is unrankable fully ;w;

Normal

  1. 00:27:270 (1) - delete NC
  2. 00:31:227 (1) - ^
  3. 00:45:732 (1) - ^
  4. 00:51:007 (1) - ^
  5. 00:28:259 (2) - NC
  6. 00:30:073 (5) - ^
  7. 00:46:062 (2) - ^
  8. 00:51:336 (2) - ^
  9. 01:04:523 (5) - ^
  10. 00:34:194 (3,2) - this overlap can looks better
  11. 00:40:457 - add circle
  12. 00:40:787 (1) - cut to 00:42:435
  13. 00:46:721 (3,4) - make them like 00:46:062 (2)

Good Luck!~ :)
DreaM117er
mark.
I will try my best to test my mapping skill 8-)
DreaM117er
2nd. 音效不急著弄

4.56
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 43277
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.6
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 20183,77728,80365
DistanceSpacing: 0.6
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.6

[Metadata]
Title:STARTING NOW!
TitleUnicode:STARTING NOW!
Artist:Nana Mizuki
ArtistUnicode:水樹 奈々
Creator:-SuGon-
Version:117's Insane
Source:この美術部には問題がある!
Tags:Kono Bijutsubu ni wa Mondai ga Aru! This Art Club Has a Problem! Konobi Comedy Romance School feel lolilove Regraz AliomLoung
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"maxresdefault.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
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214,93,77069,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,30,77234,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,191,77398,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,191,77563,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,81,77728,6,0,B|350:59|350:59|307:65,1,85
200,191,78058,2,0,P|202:220|211:245,3,42.5
183,312,78387,2,0,P|204:322|245:325,3,42.5
291,373,78717,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,367,78799,1,0,0:0:0:0:
366,361,78882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
404,356,78964,1,0,0:0:0:0:
442,350,79047,5,0,0:0:0:0:
13,259,80365,6,0,B|67:289|67:289|191:264,1,170
265,248,80860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
125,95,81025,2,0,P|136:165|145:199,1,85
173,267,81354,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,184,81519,6,0,P|330:175|215:156,1,170
92,317,82014,1,0,0:0:0:0:
202,251,82179,1,0,0:0:0:0:
71,154,82343,2,0,B|51:193|51:193|59:243,1,85
283,366,82673,6,0,B|303:322|303:322|293:253,1,101.999996887207
217,47,83003,6,0,P|259:96|364:79,1,170
421,18,83497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
498,175,83662,2,0,P|457:166|415:161,1,85
330,202,83992,1,0,0:0:0:0:
108,208,84157,6,0,P|188:190|248:247,1,170
275,336,84651,1,0,0:0:0:0:
167,272,84816,1,0,0:0:0:0:
330,202,84981,2,0,P|374:195|437:189,1,85
502,11,85310,6,0,P|458:18|395:24,1,101.999996887207
193,77,85640,5,0,0:0:0:0:
176,120,85750,1,0,0:0:0:0:
199,159,85860,1,0,0:0:0:0:
241,176,85970,1,0,0:0:0:0:
258,218,86080,1,0,0:0:0:0:
251,263,86190,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,287,86299,2,0,P|183:285|143:278,2,56.6666666666667
288,336,86629,2,0,P|315:331|344:329,2,56.6666666666667
207,374,86959,5,0,0:0:0:0:
341,248,87124,1,0,0:0:0:0:
365,240,87206,1,0,0:0:0:0:
390,237,87288,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,336,87453,5,0,0:0:0:0:
154,210,87618,1,0,0:0:0:0:
130,202,87701,1,0,0:0:0:0:
105,199,87783,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,287,87948,5,0,0:0:0:0:
309,159,88113,1,0,0:0:0:0:
314,134,88195,1,0,0:0:0:0:
319,109,88277,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,21,88442,6,0,P|187:76|202:136,1,85
305,257,88772,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,88854,12,0,89514,0:0:0:0:
Binguo
as198叫我来看看 先标记一下
Cynplytholowazy
From M4M queue

Not finished modding, will keep adding things within 5 / 7 days
Erm, I don't have time yet, finish modding your map on Saturday...
·Just looking at lolilove's Insane, it seemed that it would be a long mod??? The entire map seemed wrong.

[General]
First, it seemed that the offset is a little bit too early.
***Advise you to change the offset from 1227 to 1245.
From DreaM117er's code, it also mentioned the offset being 1245.
DreaM117er's code
[TimingPoints]
1245,329.67032967033,4,2,10,35,1,0
1245,-133.333333333333,4,2,10,35,0,0
3882,-111.111111111111,4,2,10,50,0,0
6519,-100,4,2,10,65,0,0
8827,-83.3333333333333,4,2,10,65,0,0
9157,-100,4,2,10,65,0,0
11464,-83.3333333333333,4,2,10,65,0,0
11794,-111.111111111111,4,2,10,65,0,0
22096,-111.111111111111,4,2,10,10,0,0
22179,-100,4,2,10,65,0,0
30091,-111.111111111111,4,2,10,55,0,0
32893,-133.333333333333,4,2,10,40,0,0
38168,-100,4,2,10,65,0,0
40805,-90.9090909090909,4,2,10,80,0,0
43277,-100,4,2,10,70,0,1
61574,-100,4,2,10,70,0,0
61739,-100,4,2,10,70,0,1
79047,-100,4,2,10,50,0,0
82673,-83.3333333333333,4,2,10,50,0,0
83003,-100,4,2,10,50,0,0
85310,-83.3333333333333,4,2,10,50,0,0
85640,-100,4,2,10,50,0,0
89514,-100,4,2,10,5,0,0
I haven't checked if his code really matches the changed offset, you have to try it yourself.

Time mentioned below would be the time after changing offset.

[lolilove's Insane]
00:01:144 (1) Object not snapped, should change the starting point to 00:01:245
00:01:144 (1) Slider too long, should be a slider from 00:01:245 to 00:01:574
00:01:821 (2) That note should be on the white tick, move it to 00:01:904


Still have a lot to update, hope you can wait for this post to get long...

***This is important!!!
I have just took a look on your beatmap. Without changing the offset, I tried to mod your map, but it is really confusing to do so.
I don't understand how other people mod your lolilove's Insane, but to me, it is just insanity. Extremely confusing to look. :o :o
From the looks of it, the Insane seemed to be extremely terrible. AliomLoung's Easy is still moddable, you can't imagine how difficult it is for me to follow the beats... :o :o
I guess, it is not playable by human if the beats (does not) follow the song like that.


Therefore!!!
Before I can really mod your map, you have to change the offset back. Please do so, or else, I really can't help you much.

Another advice,
Change the beat interval to 1/2 instead of 1/4.
A lot of mistakes, e.g. notes not following the song, comes from putting the notes at the blue ticks.


Take my advice first, I will mod your map again soon enough. (If I have enough time)

(I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed kudosus baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( )
Binguo
[General]
offset 错了 1269更加准确 我觉得自己测的比楼上要准 当然需要你自己斟酌
[Normal]
00:27:312 (4) - 这里的节奏应该换成单点 00:27:642 (5) - 然后接一个1/2滑条
00:58:961 - 这里空着不合适应该加个圈
00:59:785 - 在我看来这里跟人声不合适应该退后一格(后面的白线)
01:00:609 (4,5) - 全是连音 2个1/2显然不合适 建议从01:00:609 (4) - 拉到01:01:104 - 折返一下
01:17:422 - 同 00:58:961 -
01:22:367 (3,4,1) - 直接向上没什么意思 不如做一个弧度会更带感你试试看吧大概这样子https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6131394
简单来说很不错 简直不像是第一次作图
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