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Kawada Mami - Borderland ~TV size~

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Faithium
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on vendredi 17 juin 2016 at 23:49:12

Artist: Kawada Mami
Title: Borderland ~TV size~
Source: Jormungand
Tags: mamimami i've yorumungando
BPM: 184
Filesize: 2336kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Douky's Hard (3,85 stars, 308 notes)
  2. Insane (4,95 stars, 301 notes)
  3. Normal (2,16 stars, 118 notes)
  4. Reality & Dream (5,31 stars, 391 notes)
Download: Kawada Mami - Borderland ~TV size~
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Sotarks
Hey! IRC

00:03 Faithium: hey je vien de finir une map tu peu la juger stp ce serai sympa? en espérant ne pas te déranger :)
00:03 *Faithium is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/974374 Kawada Mami - Borderland ~TV size~]
00:08 Sotarks: heyyy
00:09 Sotarks: haha vous deux
00:09 Sotarks: douky et toi <3
00:09 Sotarks: vous etes motiver
00:09 Faithium: x)
00:10 Faithium: jai pas encore mis de nom de diff
00:10 Faithium: ni les hitsound etc...
00:10 Faithium: mais ya les notes ;)
00:14 Sotarks: okk
00:14 Sotarks: att
00:14 Sotarks: j'suis foncdé donc bon
00:14 *Sotarks is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/974374 Kawada Mami - Borderland ~TV size~ []] +Hidden
00:15 Faithium: je spec
00:15 Sotarks: ok
00:15 Sotarks: att
00:17 Faithium: jai mis un od un peu violent nn?
00:17 Sotarks: un peu
00:17 Sotarks: quoi que
00:17 Sotarks: nan
00:17 Sotarks: bon le slider art
00:17 Sotarks: c'est pas encore ça
00:17 Sotarks: xD
00:17 Faithium: xD
00:18 Faithium: c la chose auquel je suis le plus nul x[
00:19 Sotarks: 00:02:472 (6,1) - ce patern est pas fou
00:19 Sotarks: 00:04:591 (4,5) - l'overlap est pas fou, ecarte les
00:19 Sotarks: 00:23:015 (2) - xD
00:20 Faithium: :D
00:20 Sotarks: nan vraiment le sliderart
00:20 Sotarks: est a refaire xD
00:20 Sotarks: apres c'pas mon style
00:20 Sotarks: les slider art comme ça
00:20 Faithium: je sais pas comment m'améliorer dessus
00:20 Sotarks: 00:30:515 (1,2,3,4,5) - ça c'est cool
00:20 Sotarks: fait des slider basic
00:21 Sotarks: regarde les slider sur les autres maps
00:21 Sotarks: essaye pas d'en inventer
00:21 Sotarks: ^^'
00:21 Sotarks: 00:31:820 (1,2) - ouai bon ça c'est pas très jolie
00:21 Faithium: k
00:21 Sotarks: 00:34:102 (2,2) - evite les overlap comme ça
00:21 Sotarks: 00:34:918 (2,5) - c'est quoi ce blanketing ^^' réarange moi ce patern
00:22 Sotarks: bon tu as tendance a surchargé tes paterns
00:22 Sotarks: avec des overlap pas très propres
00:22 Sotarks: faut que tu perde cette habitude
00:22 Sotarks: l'overlap mapping viens après
00:22 Sotarks: c'est très dur comme mapping
00:22 Sotarks: essaye de faire des patern clean
00:22 Sotarks: espacer
00:23 Sotarks: 00:39:157 (2,3,4) - les soft sampleset pourquoi?
00:23 Sotarks: 00:39:972 (6,7,8) - pas très beau ça encore
00:24 Faithium: soft sampleset?
00:24 Sotarks: 00:44:863 (1) - ce spinner a rien a faire la
00:24 Sotarks: (oui ta mis en soft les hitsound, a gauche dans le menu)
00:24 Sotarks: 00:47:798 (1) - NC inutil
00:24 Faithium: ah ui pas fait expret
00:25 Faithium: wth je fais des truc sans faire expret
00:25 Sotarks: 00:47:961 (2,3) - pourquoi pas faire quelque chose comme ça : http://puu.sh/oNkFG/b513929e11.jpg
00:25 Sotarks: 00:49:102 (2) - ducoup l'overlap est pas cool la
00:26 Sotarks: 00:51:059 (5) - ...... siofjndsio xD
00:26 Sotarks: 00:51:711 (2) - ya un haut beat de voix ici et tu met un low spacing, tandis que 00:51:874 (3) - ici ya pas un aussi haut beat et tu le met plus loin..
00:26 Sotarks: 00:53:179 (4) - la forme de ce slider est pas très jolie
00:27 Sotarks: 00:55:298 (1,1,1,1) - pourquoi autant de NC ? xD
00:27 Sotarks: 00:55:461 (1,1,1) - enleve les NC ici
00:27 Sotarks: 00:57:907 (1,3) - overlap
00:27 Sotarks: 01:02:472 (4,5,6) - arrete avec ça, ça se joue pas tres bien et c'est pas jolie jolie :)
00:28 Sotarks: 01:06:222 (4,1) - overlap
00:28 Sotarks: 01:08:831 (3,5) - overlap
00:28 Sotarks: 01:10:298 (9) - ctrl + g
00:28 Sotarks: 01:10:624 (1,2) - stack les mieux
00:29 Sotarks: bon c'tout ^^'
00:29 Sotarks: mais bon la structure c'est pas encore ça, on dirai que ton mapping c'est plus vite j'ai terminer plus vite je peux la montrer ou la jouer
00:29 Sotarks: car ya pas mal d'erreur de baclage
00:29 Sotarks: genre les slider a moitier fait
00:29 Sotarks: ou des patern brouillon
00:30 Sotarks: faut faire un peux plus attention de la ou tu place tes objet
00:30 Sotarks: et d'eviter de faire des overlap pas jolie
00:30 Sotarks: voila voila :D

Good Luck!~
-vEa-
Hello just swingin by
Insane diff

00:00:516 - The beginning feels really awkward to play with the singles, I would recommend to use sliders here instead and make a pattern at 00:02:309 (5,6,7,8,9) - Instead that is abit more spaced

00:05:733 (1,2,3) - This feels really out of place, change structure or just replace it

00:07:200 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - These kinds of patterns does not feel right to play make them abit more spaced/curved to fit the synth

00:09:320 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Short sliders here instead?

00:10:950 (1) - 10s long slider, this needs to be changed, you can add alot of more "calm" beats here to tease the chorus. Adding this spinner feels lazy and out of place, lots of missed potential in this part of the song

00:31:808 (1) - ????

00:41:765 (2,3,4,5) - I dont think a "stream" beat fits here, make it like you have done on other places like here 01:14:048 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

00:51:059 (5) - This slider


Fun map, looking forward how it will look like when its finished

Cheers//-vea-

PS: I believe the correct offset is 504
Douky
Hey , Short mod after you fixed previous things:

00:08:982 (1,2) - The slider is not exactly aligned with the followpoint , It would be prettier this way in my opinion

00:27:406 (3,4) - This note is the only one in the section that is stacked with the slider , even though the global pattern repeat twice, you could either unstack it , or stack the one in the next pattern.

00:42:243 (1) - This one is matter of gameplay, you could maybe change the direction of the curve to make it more smooth to play, otherwise it you need to make a abrupt turn.

00:41:917 (5,2) - If theses two are supposed to be overlapped , you'll need to fix this , otherwise it's okay , you can't see it in playmode

00:49:090 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - As this is the exact same music , I sugest you use 1/2 sliders before the jumps, or jumps instead of 1/2 sliders , if it's intentiional don't mind it it's readable

01:03:601 (1,2,3,4,5,6,5,6) - Just a suggestion , a secoind pattern with 2 triples would look nice here in my opinion

01:07:922 (8) - This note is slightly off the stream

01:10:612 (1,2,3) - When I play , I always feel like this should be a note + triple on slider pattern here , check if you feel this too maybe

Thats all I saw on your map , good map , very enjoyable to play ! The music is nice too ! :)
MrTwinsi
A bit too fast
Normal difficulty

00:44:933 (1,1) - the slider just after the spinner is coming to fast (timing speaking) for a normal difficulty, the players are most of the time playing with a mouse and we can't reach it with a mouse a this rate. so you should make your spinner end earlier.

00:48:846 (1,1) - Same.

00:51:455 (1,1) - Same.

00:54:063 (1,1) - Same.

That's all for me in the normal difficulty, by the way, nice work on this map ;) !
MrTwinsi
Replay

After a new try the spinners are too shorts so you can try to put sliders or just some breaks.

but your work is still good ;) !
Topic Starter
Faithium

MrTwinsi wrote:

A bit too fast
Normal difficulty

00:44:933 (1,1) - the slider just after the spinner is coming to fast (timing speaking) for a normal difficulty, the players are most of the time playing with a mouse and we can't reach it with a mouse a this rate. so you should make your spinner end earlier.

00:48:846 (1,1) - Same.

00:51:455 (1,1) - Same.

00:54:063 (1,1) - Same.

That's all for me in the normal difficulty, by the way, nice work on this map ;) !

MrTwinsi wrote:

Replay

After a new try the spinners are too shorts so you can try to put sliders or just some breaks.

but your work is still good ;) !
Thanks yup, I'll use sliders
Douky
It's me again for the new diff :
Reality&Dream:

00:00:993 (2,2) - Overlap is not pretty, a bit more of symmetry would be nicer

00:03:601 (2,1) - Why spacing so low compared to the other patern ?

00:04:906 (1,2) - Not a single beat on the slider

00:06:536 (1,2) - Same

00:08:167 (7,8) -Up-Down-Up-Down-Up-Down-DOWN ?

00:09:308 (2,3,4,5) - 00:10:286 (1,2,3,4) - Same spacing , 2 times less time between

00:12:732 (4,5,6) - Some weird shit here , ok so there's no beat on the 4, but np . the point is, the sapcing is just wtf here (00:14:851 (3,4,5) - better here)

00:18:275 (5,6) - overlap them like the 1 and 2 if you want a symetric pattern

00:19:417 (3) - There is a beat on the red , you hide it in a slider

00:23:003 (6) - This could be prettier if you rotate it to avoid overlap ( https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5164135 )

00:35:721 (7,8) - This is totally against the flow

00:37:025 (1,2) - Copy past sliders if you want them to be same, and use commands one Edit tab

00:38:656 (4,4) - Stack the 4 one the SliderStart

00:39:634 (5,1) - The slider 5 is curved away from the cursor direction and the pattern is still bad

00:49:417 (4,5,6) - WHY ? 00:51:699 (2,3,4) - again 00:54:471 (3,4,5) - ...

01:00:993 (3,4,5) - triple has no reason to be here

01:02:623 (4,5,6) - This one neither

01:17:297 (2) - overlap please notlikethis

You could map the end of the song too

General comment I didn't make beacause Too Many:

1) Try to be consistent in your spacings , there is too many illogical jumps or antijumps, too many irregularities between the same patterns, Use distance spacing if you're not at ease with spacing

2) The song has a DnB Rythm , it means every single Mesure of the song contain a triple. So either you map every triple , either you map 1 triple every 2 or 4 mesures , or you don't map any. Don't put random triples , especially on places that doesn't even fit the song.

If you want me to point them out , tell me in pm dude, I'll do it no problem !
Sorry if I sound crude here , but remember what I told you about Expert diffs ^^

On this , I'm finished !
Garden
hi im random guy from mp room
u said u wanna go for ranked, so im going to talk about some unrankable issues mainly, hope that helps.
[General]
  1. the current lowest diff is 2.16* and according to ranking criteria it should be under 2*, so u should add another diff or made it easier
  2. disable countdown in all diffs if u want, that's something ppl use like several years ago lol
  3. delete bless bakahuang milkshake from tag cuz they are gders of the ranked map and it seems u simply just copied the tag from it, and add ur gder's id of course
  4. adding some custom colors can be nice
[Normal]
  1. easy and normal diffs should strictly follow distant snap, so u should rearrange the whole diff
  2. btw current sv is too high imo, u can refer to other ranked maps with similar bpm
  3. 00:20:069 (1,2,3) - 01:07:677 (7) - 01:18:438 (4) - such rhythm patterns are not tolerable in a normal diff, it's too dense and hard to read for new players, but can be a nice one for hard diffs
[Douky's Hard]
  1. 100% volume is not good for ur ears lol, should reduce that
  2. no serious unrankable issues tbh, but u can try making it neater by paying more attentions to details, like 00:13:058 (4,5,6) - , a regular triangle is much better imo
[Insane]
  1. 00:28:221 (2) - this is offscreen
  2. insane now is much like a slightly easier version of extra, imo u should reduce some general settings like od ar for better diff spread
[Extra]
  1. insane and extra diffs are absolutely playable now, but u should consider more about what to highlight while mapping, for example, 00:25:612 (1) - here music gets stronger, but u use smaller spacing from 5 to 1 than from 4 to 5, and that's not reasonable. u might wanna go over the map the again and pay attention to the point i mentioned
my english is not that good, if u don't understand anything, feel free poke me wherever u want

btw modding is another way that u could quickly improve ur skills, so u can try m4m modding queues to improve urself as well as getting mods
Topic Starter
Faithium
Thanks for mod Garden, I'll work on it
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