Hybrid Minds - Kismet ft. Riya · forum

SrSkyPlayer

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-07-31T23:09:14+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 24 de outubro de 2015 at 01:56:27

Artist: Hybrid Minds
Title: Kismet ft. Riya
Tags: Milan- Lumael DnB Drum 'n' Bass dance edm music
BPM: 172
Filesize: 3718kb
Play Time: 01:42
Difficulties Available:

Collab Hard (3,16 stars, 225 notes)
Insane (3,92 stars, 337 notes)
Lumael's Normal (1,79 stars, 123 notes)
Milan-'s Advanced (2,2 stars, 170 notes)

Download: Hybrid Minds - Kismet ft. Riya
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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You came,
I guess you could say out of the blue,
and still I smile,
because I am surprised
how something oh so beautiful
could arrive in my life.

Hitsounds and MP3 by Milan-

Last edited by SrSkyPlayer 2015-10-24T04:39:20+00:00, edited 74 times in total.

SrSkyPlayer

487 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-07-31T23:12:12+00:00

HERE WE GO!!!

Last edited by SrSkyPlayer 2015-10-20T01:29:33+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-07-31T23:25:54+00:00

SrSkyPlayer wrote:
HERE WE GO!!!

To the Infinity and Beyond

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-08-04T22:47:45+00:00

Please, I'll be a bit a inactive until the next month, please if I didn't answer a mod in 24 hours I let you apply mods for me because I don't wan't to slow down the next mods just because of me..
I'll try my best to answer mods but school is driving me crazy this month..

Mekki

1,793 posts

Joined November 2014

Mekki 2015-08-12T00:07:08+00:00

Oiie!

Normal

00:18:273 (2,3,4) - Honestamente falando, acho esse ritmo http://puu.sh/jyb4D/ceefd3daf3.jpg ou esse http://puu.sh/jybeX/cffbf2e2ec.jpg bem melhor que o atual, pois retratam melhor a vocal, e o segundo ainda retrata o instrumental. (Caso for aplicar isso, aplique para as outras partes em que você fez igual também)
00:25:599 (1) - Está tocando a HP Bar.
00:33:971 (3) - Adiciona NC.
00:35:366 (1) - Remove NC.

Simplesmente incrível!

Hard

O spread do normal para o hard está um pouco grande. (Não que seja obrigatório mudar a diff, mas é apenas um aviso)
01:01:355 (3,4) - Não entendi o motivo do jump aqui, simplesmente não faz nenhuma mudança de ritmo nem nada do tipo.

Outra dificuldade incrível, parabéns. O mapset está ótimo, esse mod foi só algumas sugestões bobas e tals (Não vou moddar o insane)

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-08-12T00:48:44+00:00

MkGuh wrote:
Oiie!

Normal
00:18:273 (2,3,4) - Honestamente falando, acho esse ritmo http://puu.sh/jyb4D/ceefd3daf3.jpg ou esse http://puu.sh/jybeX/cffbf2e2ec.jpg bem melhor que o atual, pois retratam melhor a vocal, e o segundo ainda retrata o instrumental. (Caso for aplicar isso, aplique para as outras partes em que você fez igual também) Foi mal, mas eu nunca sigo vocal quando tem drum
00:25:599 (1) - Está tocando a HP Bar. Fixado
00:33:971 (3) - Adiciona NC. Nossa eu me confundi aqui, realmente era pro nc ser aqui, é porque eu usei um slider com reverse arrow tão grande que o combo acaba no 2 e eu estendi até o 5 por engano, vlw lol
00:35:366 (1) - Remove NC. sim sim, refiz todo o NC pra manter a consistência obg!
Simplesmente incrível! VLW!!!

Hard
O spread do normal para o hard está um pouco grande. (Não que seja obrigatório mudar a diff, mas é apenas um aviso) Concordo mas recentemente eu vi um mapa que foi ranqueado com uma gab parecida: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/730430 e ranqueado numa boa, então se um bn reclamar, eu tenho isso como argumento..
01:01:355 (3,4) - Não entendi o motivo do jump aqui, simplesmente não faz nenhuma mudança de ritmo nem nada do tipo. Bom, tem mais jumps como esse na minha part do collab, no momento não irei remover porque eles tem um feel muito bom imo *-*, mas vou reconsiderar se outra pessoa apontar isso (oq provavelmente irá acontecer..)
Outra dificuldade incrível, parabéns. O mapset está ótimo, esse mod foi só algumas sugestões bobas e tals (Não vou moddar o insane) VLW!! Ofc só é incrível por causa do Sky uahshdasudhuashdu

Thank you !!!!!!!

Lumael's Normal

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Collab Hard no changes

Marianna

1,392 posts

Joined July 2015

Marianna 2015-08-12T17:06:14+00:00

Lumael's Normal
O3O00:56:994 (2,3) - Blanket (Se a intenção desses sliders não essa desculpa.)

Hard
01:01:355 (3) - x:156 y:18401:40:250 (1) - Final do spin aqui 01:42:343 -

Insane
00:12:692 (6) - x:111 y:13700:14:262 (5) - x:408 y:21300:17:052 (7) - x:400 y:18000:18:273 (6) - x:52 y:148 (Se você achar o jumping for muito grande pode deixar onde ele está)00:21:064 (6) - x:224 y:10000:24:029 (7) - x:28 y:17600:25:076 (5) - x:212 y:26000:26:471 (5) - x:352 y:8800:26:645 (6) - x:384 y:19400:28:215 (7) - x:228 y:8500:30:831 (6) - x:380 y:35200:32:227 (6) - x:84 y:24400:36:587 (7) - x:228 y:14000:41:994 (6) - x280 y:19200:48:971 (6) - x:291 y:15700:57:343 (6) - x:228 y:13601:11:296 (6) - x:28 y: 16001:23:680 (5) - x:273 y:26801:26:645 (6) - x:112 y:26401:29:436 (6) - x:40 y:8801:32:227 (6) - x:280 y:8001:34:843 (5) - x:140 y:36000:33:099 (2,3,4,5,6) - Essa stream tem que ser reta ou curva.01:24:727 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
É isso , Boa sorte ♥

Satisfeito?

Last edited by Marianna 2015-08-13T23:55:45+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-08-12T18:10:32+00:00

Tudo ajeitado na minha diff e na minha parte do Collab!!

VLW!!!

Collab Hard

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como as changes no Hard foram só pra mim, eu dei o código inteiro

SrSkyPlayer

487 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-08-13T02:33:08+00:00

Hoen wrote:
Insane
00:24:901 (4) - Whistle prefiro deixar sem whistle essa nota D:
00:47:052 (2) - Tira Whistle fixed

SrSkyPlayer

487 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-08-14T15:55:58+00:00

Hoen wrote:
Insane
00:12:692 (6) - x:111 y:13700:14:262 (5) - x:408 y:21300:17:052 (7) - x:400 y:18000:18:273 (6) - x:52 y:148 (Se você achar o jumping for muito grande pode deixar onde ele está)00:21:064 (6) - x:224 y:10000:24:029 (7) - x:28 y:17600:25:076 (5) - x:212 y:26000:26:471 (5) - x:352 y:8800:26:645 (6) - x:384 y:19400:28:215 (7) - x:228 y:8500:30:831 (6) - x:380 y:35200:32:227 (6) - x:84 y:24400:36:587 (7) - x:228 y:14000:41:994 (6) - x280 y:19200:48:971 (6) - x:291 y:15700:57:343 (6) - x:228 y:13601:11:296 (6) - x:28 y: 16001:23:680 (5) - x:273 y:26801:26:645 (6) - x:112 y:26401:29:436 (6) - x:40 y:8801:32:227 (6) - x:280 y:8001:34:843 (5) - x:140 y:36000:33:099 (2,3,4,5,6) - Essa stream tem que ser reta ou curva.01:24:727 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
É isso , Boa sorte ♥

Satisfeito?

Fixed most of them.

riffy

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Joined December 2010

riffy 2015-08-18T09:18:08+00:00

Hey there. As promised.

Anything mentioned here is just my own thoughts and opinion. You're not obligated to apply any of these.

[General]

Title should be Kismet feat. Riya
Note: as recording label suggests so
There're unused images with the names for Collab. Either storyboard them or remove them completely.
Note: don't forget to cut the unnecessary transparency if you decide to storyboard these images!
Combo colour 3 is rather dark and it might fade with the dimmed background.
There is a huge gap between rather simple Normal and a very intense Hard. Consider mapping an Advanced difficulty to fix the spread issue.
Tags should be separated with spaces, no duplicate words should be used.

[Lumael's Normal]

This difficulty can use lower Approach Rate. Something like 4 or 4,5. Remember, this is the easiest difficulty, so it is meant to be played by beginners.
00:16:529 - consider finishing the slider (3) at this ppoint and add a circle at 00:16:878 - to emphasize the drums. A rhythm like this feels more natural as it keeps the vocals mapped.
00:22:808 (1,2) - 3/2 gaps are confusing while playing. Why on't we try to avoid it? You can easily change the pattern into something like this.
Note: please, be sure to check all similar 3/2 patterns and consider fixing them as well. You can use sommething like the example above.
00:46:529 (3,1) - minor - with the snaking sliders disabled players will be able to see the overlap. In addition to thism the flow here feels kind of forced. Try to re-arrange the objects in a neater way?
00:47:924 - the downbeat is left unclickable to the players, resulting in a rather strange feeling while playing. Try to replace the slider with two circles?
Note: more information about downbeats and why they should be clickable can be read here

Although the difficulty itself is not bad, it feels more like an Easy difficulty with a faster velocity. Try to add some more 1/2 beats during intense part and follow the drums a bit more precisely.

[Hard]

00:08:855 (1,1) - there should be one tick of recovery time after the spinner. Som players can read the following objects properly. Make the spinner 1/2 shorter, perhaps?
00:11:645 - 00:50:715 - the whole part feels too intense for the vocals and too weak for drums. Try to spice this part up with some repeated 1/4 sliders as the drum line uses them rather actively.
01:14:959 (2,3) - I don't think it is supposed to be mapped that way. The sudden direction change and unnatural break in the flow do not fit in with the way music goes.

Sorry, I disagree with the way it is mapped and I do't think I can suggest much here. It doesn't mean that you can't have it mapped this way, though

[Insane]

00:15:657 (7,1) - I cannot see any reason for the jump here, the jump 00:12:343 (4,5) - here isn't really supported by the song either, 00:14:087 (4,5) - and this one and many others. I would suggest you to testplay the difficulty and bookmark all the jumps you find unnecesary. Have a closer look and fix them.
Note: there are a lot more of those jumps, I will not go into the details as I believe you can find them yourself.

For now, the only issue I see is the jumps. A lot of them are unnecessary or overdone, if you ask me.

Sorry, but I really did not like the Harder difficulties.

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Best of luck!

SrSkyPlayer

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Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-08-18T15:39:00+00:00

Bakari wrote:
Hey there. As promised.

Anything mentioned here is just my own thoughts and opinion. You're not obligated to apply any of these.

[General]
Title should be Kismet feat. Riya fixed
Note: as recording label suggests so
There're unused images with the names for Collab. Either storyboard them or remove them completely. fixed
Note: don't forget to cut the unnecessary transparency if you decide to storyboard these images!
Combo colour 3 is rather dark and it might fade with the dimmed background. fixed
There is a huge gap between rather simple Normal and a very intense Hard. Consider mapping an Advanced difficulty to fix the spread issue.
Tags should be separated with spaces, no duplicate words should be used. fixed
[Hard]
00:08:855 (1,1) - there should be one tick of recovery time after the spinner. Som players can read the following objects properly. Make the spinner 1/2 shorter, perhaps?
00:11:645 - 00:50:715 - the whole part feels too intense for the vocals and too weak for drums. Try to spice this part up with some repeated 1/4 sliders as the drum line uses them rather actively.
01:14:959 (2,3) - I don't think it is supposed to be mapped that way. The sudden direction change and unnatural break in the flow do not fit in with the way music goes.

Sorry, I disagree with the way it is mapped and I do't think I can suggest much here. It doesn't mean that you can't have it mapped this way, though
We probably won't change anything in this diff D:
I really liked it but ok.. We will think what we can do about it ;-;
[Insane]
00:15:657 (7,1) - I cannot see any reason for the jump here, the jump 00:12:343 (4,5) - here isn't really supported by the song either, 00:14:087 (4,5) - and this one and many others. I would suggest you to testplay the difficulty and bookmark all the jumps you find unnecesary. Have a closer look and fix them.
Note: there are a lot more of those jumps, I will not go into the details as I believe you can find them yourself.

For now, the only issue I see is the jumps. A lot of them are unnecessary or overdone, if you ask me.
Sorry, but I really did not like the Harder difficulties.
I think that I fixed everything, but I will keep some jumps (I really like them D:)
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Best of luck! thank you

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-08-20T14:11:00+00:00

Applied all on Lumael's Normal

Update

osu file format v14

[General]
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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 55948
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 11645,50715,56296,98157,102343
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Kismet feat. Riya
TitleUnicode:Kismet feat. Riya
Artist:Hybrid Minds
ArtistUnicode:Hybrid Minds
Creator:SrSkyPlayer
Version:Lumael's Normal
Source:
Tags:Lumael DnB Drum 'n' Bass dance edm music electronic
BeatmapID:753633
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
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0,0,"Kismet BG.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Thank you Bakari!!

A Mystery

868 posts

Joined April 2013

A Mystery 2015-08-21T22:32:59+00:00

I helped out a little, also gave some general suggestions about spacing

23:45 SrSkyPlayer: hey mystery
23:45 SrSkyPlayer: =w=
23:46 A Mystery: hi
23:47 SrSkyPlayer: Could you help me with something (mapping) ? =w=
23:47 A Mystery: uhmmmm
23:47 A Mystery: maybe
23:48 SrSkyPlayer: I'm a beginner, I know the basic of mapping
23:48 SrSkyPlayer: but I need some opinions
23:48 SrSkyPlayer: could you see that ?
23:49 A Mystery: uhm
23:49 A Mystery: sure
23:49 SrSkyPlayer: ooh
23:49 SrSkyPlayer: ty =w=
23:50 *SrSkyPlayer is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/753632 Hybrid Minds - Kismet feat. Riya [Insane]]
23:50 A Mystery: hm
23:51 A Mystery: you're not using your jumps correctly
23:51 A Mystery: 00:12:517 (5,6) - a higher distance between these 2 would make a lot more sense than between 00:12:692 (6,7) -  for example
23:51 SrSkyPlayer: I did it
23:51 SrSkyPlayer: but
23:51 SrSkyPlayer: Bakari said
23:52 SrSkyPlayer: that at this way
23:52 SrSkyPlayer: makes more sense
23:52 A Mystery: I don't believe that
23:52 A Mystery: this doesn't really make sense
23:52 SrSkyPlayer: the first time that I did this pattern I mean it was with a higher distance between them
23:52 A Mystery: what did you change then?
23:53 SrSkyPlayer: I just stacked 5
23:53 A Mystery: on
23:53 SrSkyPlayer: and put the note 7 in a blanket
23:54 A Mystery: well yeah but that causes wrong things to be emphasized
23:54 SrSkyPlayer: If make the whole pattern with a higher distance
23:54 A Mystery: something like http://puu.sh/jJKwZ/a5a42dc9f0.jpg would feel more natural
23:54 SrSkyPlayer: that will be emphasized more?
23:55 SrSkyPlayer: I did something like it
23:56 A Mystery: well
23:56 A Mystery: snares and downbeats should get a higher spacing
23:56 SrSkyPlayer: http://prntscr.com/87ean2
23:56 SrSkyPlayer: like this ?
23:56 A Mystery: as long as that happens, it's fine
23:56 A Mystery: not sure what happens there, can you make a larger screenshot
23:57 SrSkyPlayer: 00:12:866 (7,3) -  I stacked them<
23:58 SrSkyPlayer: http://prntscr.com/87ebcu
23:58 A Mystery: uhm
23:58 A Mystery: would still put 7 closer though
23:59 A Mystery: 00:12:866 (7) - has no reason to be emphasized in any way, so if you use a higher spacing than other places it won't make sense
23:59 SrSkyPlayer: hmm
00:00 SrSkyPlayer: http://prntscr.com/87ecmd
00:00 SrSkyPlayer: like this?
00:01 A Mystery: for example yes
00:01 A Mystery: see
00:01 A Mystery: cause 00:13:913 (3,4,5) - this is done well
00:02 A Mystery: but you should, at least in your next map, always have that in mind
00:02 A Mystery: ticks that feel stronger because of a basskick, snare, downbeat, whatever, should get a higher spacing to make a map interesting
00:02 SrSkyPlayer: I will
00:02 SrSkyPlayer: try to rank it
00:02 A Mystery: but at the same time ticks that have nothing special should not get a large jump
00:03 A Mystery: I think you can rank this
00:04 A Mystery: also, improve 00:11:645 (1,2,3,4) - this blanket a little maybe lol
00:05 A Mystery: even if you take that first circle of the triple
00:05 A Mystery: it still looks a little off
00:05 A Mystery: well, quite a bit I mean
00:06 A Mystery: flow-wise your map is pretty good
00:06 A Mystery: buuut rhythm-wise it's not really interesting
00:06 SrSkyPlayer: fixed
00:06 A Mystery: you are ignoring the vocals
00:07 A Mystery: and that makes the map less interesting
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: what
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: but
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: My intention
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: was follow the drums
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: it's dnb
00:09 A Mystery: but that is exactly the reason why you should not only follow the drums
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: 00:22:285 (4,5,6) -
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: look
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: here
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: I followed
00:10 SrSkyPlayer: when she said "because i'm surprised"
00:10 A Mystery: that is not really what I mean
00:13 SrSkyPlayer: hmm
00:15 A Mystery: look, some people will agree with you
00:15 A Mystery: if you think that the drums are more important, then you can map it that way
00:16 A Mystery: however it will make the map more repetitive
00:16 A Mystery: but you won't have any snares on slider-ends for example
00:16 A Mystery: so that might be considered a good thing 
00:16 SrSkyPlayer: hmm
00:16 SrSkyPlayer: =w=
00:16 SrSkyPlayer: ok:3
00:17 SrSkyPlayer: :3 *
00:17 A Mystery: just take that in mind alright
00:18 A Mystery: fix the spacing, and this map will be good for ranking
00:18 SrSkyPlayer: I will
00:18 SrSkyPlayer: just the jumps
00:18 SrSkyPlayer: right?
00:18 A Mystery: uhm
00:18 A Mystery: reduce unnecessary jumps, spots where there's nothing special
00:18 A Mystery: and use jumps where there's a downbeat, snare, etc
00:19 SrSkyPlayer: ok[
00:19 SrSkyPlayer: =w=
00:19 A Mystery: if you always take care of that
00:19 A Mystery: on every single spot
00:19 A Mystery: this map will be pretty good
00:19 SrSkyPlayer: omg
00:19 A Mystery: it sounds like a lot of work I know
00:19 A Mystery: also
00:20 SrSkyPlayer: I can't wait for see it qualified
00:20 SrSkyPlayer: some day..
00:20 A Mystery: lower SV here would fit 01:38:855 (2,3,1) - 
00:22 A Mystery: and some higher hitsound volume
00:22 A Mystery: that's all I guess
00:22 A Mystery: I would've mapped it differently rhythm-wise, but what you follow is your choice :p
00:27 SrSkyPlayer: ok
00:27 SrSkyPlayer: Ty
00:27 SrSkyPlayer: :333

SrSkyPlayer

487 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-08-21T22:35:15+00:00

A Mystery wrote:

I helped out a little, also gave some general suggestions about spacing

23:45 SrSkyPlayer: hey mystery
23:45 SrSkyPlayer: =w=
23:46 A Mystery: hi
23:47 SrSkyPlayer: Could you help me with something (mapping) ? =w=
23:47 A Mystery: uhmmmm
23:47 A Mystery: maybe
23:48 SrSkyPlayer: I'm a beginner, I know the basic of mapping
23:48 SrSkyPlayer: but I need some opinions
23:48 SrSkyPlayer: could you see that ?
23:49 A Mystery: uhm
23:49 A Mystery: sure
23:49 SrSkyPlayer: ooh
23:49 SrSkyPlayer: ty =w=
23:50 *SrSkyPlayer is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/753632 Hybrid Minds - Kismet feat. Riya [Insane]]
23:50 A Mystery: hm
23:51 A Mystery: you're not using your jumps correctly
23:51 A Mystery: 00:12:517 (5,6) - a higher distance between these 2 would make a lot more sense than between 00:12:692 (6,7) -  for example
23:51 SrSkyPlayer: I did it
23:51 SrSkyPlayer: but
23:51 SrSkyPlayer: Bakari said
23:52 SrSkyPlayer: that at this way
23:52 SrSkyPlayer: makes more sense
23:52 A Mystery: I don't believe that
23:52 A Mystery: this doesn't really make sense
23:52 SrSkyPlayer: the first time that I did this pattern I mean it was with a higher distance between them
23:52 A Mystery: what did you change then?
23:53 SrSkyPlayer: I just stacked 5
23:53 A Mystery: on
23:53 SrSkyPlayer: and put the note 7 in a blanket
23:54 A Mystery: well yeah but that causes wrong things to be emphasized
23:54 SrSkyPlayer: If make the whole pattern with a higher distance
23:54 A Mystery: something like http://puu.sh/jJKwZ/a5a42dc9f0.jpg would feel more natural
23:54 SrSkyPlayer: that will be emphasized more?
23:55 SrSkyPlayer: I did something like it
23:56 A Mystery: well
23:56 A Mystery: snares and downbeats should get a higher spacing
23:56 SrSkyPlayer: http://prntscr.com/87ean2
23:56 SrSkyPlayer: like this ?
23:56 A Mystery: as long as that happens, it's fine
23:56 A Mystery: not sure what happens there, can you make a larger screenshot
23:57 SrSkyPlayer: 00:12:866 (7,3) -  I stacked them<
23:58 SrSkyPlayer: http://prntscr.com/87ebcu
23:58 A Mystery: uhm
23:58 A Mystery: would still put 7 closer though
23:59 A Mystery: 00:12:866 (7) - has no reason to be emphasized in any way, so if you use a higher spacing than other places it won't make sense
23:59 SrSkyPlayer: hmm
00:00 SrSkyPlayer: http://prntscr.com/87ecmd
00:00 SrSkyPlayer: like this?
00:01 A Mystery: for example yes
00:01 A Mystery: see
00:01 A Mystery: cause 00:13:913 (3,4,5) - this is done well
00:02 A Mystery: but you should, at least in your next map, always have that in mind
00:02 A Mystery: ticks that feel stronger because of a basskick, snare, downbeat, whatever, should get a higher spacing to make a map interesting
00:02 SrSkyPlayer: I will
00:02 SrSkyPlayer: try to rank it
00:02 A Mystery: but at the same time ticks that have nothing special should not get a large jump
00:03 A Mystery: I think you can rank this
00:04 A Mystery: also, improve 00:11:645 (1,2,3,4) - this blanket a little maybe lol
00:05 A Mystery: even if you take that first circle of the triple
00:05 A Mystery: it still looks a little off
00:05 A Mystery: well, quite a bit I mean
00:06 A Mystery: flow-wise your map is pretty good
00:06 A Mystery: buuut rhythm-wise it's not really interesting
00:06 SrSkyPlayer: fixed
00:06 A Mystery: you are ignoring the vocals
00:07 A Mystery: and that makes the map less interesting
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: what
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: but
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: My intention
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: was follow the drums
00:07 SrSkyPlayer: it's dnb
00:09 A Mystery: but that is exactly the reason why you should not only follow the drums
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: 00:22:285 (4,5,6) -
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: look
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: here
00:09 SrSkyPlayer: I followed
00:10 SrSkyPlayer: when she said "because i'm surprised"
00:10 A Mystery: that is not really what I mean
00:13 SrSkyPlayer: hmm
00:15 A Mystery: look, some people will agree with you
00:15 A Mystery: if you think that the drums are more important, then you can map it that way
00:16 A Mystery: however it will make the map more repetitive
00:16 A Mystery: but you won't have any snares on slider-ends for example
00:16 A Mystery: so that might be considered a good thing 
00:16 SrSkyPlayer: hmm
00:16 SrSkyPlayer: =w=
00:16 SrSkyPlayer: ok:3
00:17 SrSkyPlayer: :3 *
00:17 A Mystery: just take that in mind alright
00:18 A Mystery: fix the spacing, and this map will be good for ranking
00:18 SrSkyPlayer: I will
00:18 SrSkyPlayer: just the jumps
00:18 SrSkyPlayer: right?
00:18 A Mystery: uhm
00:18 A Mystery: reduce unnecessary jumps, spots where there's nothing special
00:18 A Mystery: and use jumps where there's a downbeat, snare, etc
00:19 SrSkyPlayer: ok[
00:19 SrSkyPlayer: =w=
00:19 A Mystery: if you always take care of that
00:19 A Mystery: on every single spot
00:19 A Mystery: this map will be pretty good
00:19 SrSkyPlayer: omg
00:19 A Mystery: it sounds like a lot of work I know
00:19 A Mystery: also
00:20 SrSkyPlayer: I can't wait for see it qualified
00:20 SrSkyPlayer: some day..
00:20 A Mystery: lower SV here would fit 01:38:855 (2,3,1) - 
00:22 A Mystery: and some higher hitsound volume
00:22 A Mystery: that's all I guess
00:22 A Mystery: I would've mapped it differently rhythm-wise, but what you follow is your choice :p
00:27 SrSkyPlayer: ok
00:27 SrSkyPlayer: Ty
00:27 SrSkyPlayer: :333

Fixed everything!

Ren-chon

15 posts

Joined August 2013

Ren-chon 2015-08-27T17:11:32+00:00

Mod porque você pediu! Talvez não esteja muito bom então me desculpe.

Collab Hard - Move o spinner do início pra 00:08:955 (1) e diminui dois ticks.
Acho que um spinner em 00:53:506 até 00:55:948 fica legal.

00:58:215 (2,3,4) - Confira com algum player se esse triple é jogável em resoluções menores.
Move o spinner do final pra 01:38:244 até 01:40:250 e adiciona um whistle.

Insane - Que tal um circle + finish em 00:53:506 ou um spinner até 00:55:948?

SrSkyPlayer

487 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-08-27T17:20:25+00:00

Lolllllllla wrote:
Mod porque você pediu! Talvez não esteja muito bom então me desculpe.

Collab Hard - Move o spinner do início pra 00:08:955 (1) e diminui dois ticks. fixed
Acho que um spinner em 00:53:506 até 00:55:948 fica legal. Prefiro deixar como está.. acho esse som no meio insignificante para dar prioridade, also um spinner não ia cair bem ali D:

00:58:215 (2,3,4) - Confira com algum player se esse triple é jogável em resoluções menores. Lumael pls
Move o spinner do final pra 01:38:244 até 01:40:250 e adiciona um whistle. Prefiro deixar como está para ficar consistente com as outras diffs.

Insane - Que tal um circle + finish em 00:53:506 ou um spinner até 00:55:948? >som insignificante

Synpoo

616 posts

Joined August 2013

Synpoo 2015-08-28T01:34:31+00:00

hi, as you requested

[Insane]
Rhythmically, this map gets boring and repetitive but I guess that's just how dnb is...However, you do ignore vocals that I think you could've mapped such as 01:10:250 where 1/2's would've worked great (actually there's a lot of places where 1/2s instead of 1/1's work well and give the map some variety). Anyway...

00:22:372 (5) - This doesn't work here, it disrupts the vocal and doesn't really follow the rhythm, it's better at 00:22:023
00:46:355 (7) - The jump to this note is really big but there's nothing to emphasize here, it plays a nicer and makes more sense somewhere at x:300/y:86
00:59:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The jump to the stream is massive and having movement going upwards again is really awkward, it's better to have this stream flow downwards and re-arranging the next notes something like this
SPOILER
01:08:506 (6,7,1) - Sooo emphasis here is a bit off. The jump from 6-7 is bigger than 7-1 even though 7 has nothing of importance on it while 1 has a dominant bass hit
01:15:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pretty bad flow, ctrl+J the stream and rotate it a bit
01:19:669 (6,7,1) - The jumps to and from 7 are a bit overdone
01:24:029 (7,1) - So I think this is the biggest jump in the map, but what's the reasoning? Adding a finish doesn't justify a gigantic jump for no reason
01:33:448 (5,6) - This jump is big too, nothing in the music changes to suggest this distance
01:38:855 (2) - Rather have this as a 1/2+circle since this slider is currently following the piano and then suddenly this slider 01:39:552 (1) - ignores the piano and follows vocals

Overall it's a decent diff with nice patterns, it just gets repetitive, as does most dnb ;-;

[Collab Hard]

00:15:483 (4,1) - Slight overlap and probably unintended
00:30:483 (3,3,4) - "Object's end is not snapped!" thx aimod
01:04:145 (4,5) - Rather switch the time placement of these so that the slider doesn't end on the snare. Flow here is also very linear and awkward to play
01:13:913 (5,1) - Another small overlap but it's pretty noticeable in game
01:14:959 (2,3) - Ugh it bothers me so much when people do this. Why even use a 1/4 here if you're gonna stack the sliders and not put any movement here? It doesn't even look appealing. Either make this two notes or give it movement like
SPOILER
01:16:703 (6) - blah blah another passive slider :3 (I know it starts on a bass but the snare is a much stronger beat)

[Milan-'s Advanced]

00:33:099 (4) - I'm not sure what this is following but there's a vocal that it misses on the white which can be solved by circle-1/2 which imo plays a lot better

[Lumael's Normal]

01:37:983 (5) - This should honestly just be a circle on the white tick. There's nothing important on the red tick (the hi-hat has been playing the whole song and you've mapped it only a few times) and having a passive slider end the song when it could be avoided isn't that great

Gl~

SrSkyPlayer

487 posts

Joined January 2014

Topic Starter

SrSkyPlayer 2015-08-28T02:30:08+00:00

Synpoo wrote:
hi, as you requested

[Insane]
Rhythmically, this map gets boring and repetitive but I guess that's just how dnb is...However, you do ignore vocals that I think you could've mapped such as 01:10:250 where 1/2's would've worked great (actually there's a lot of places where 1/2s instead of 1/1's work well and give the map some variety). Anyway...

00:22:372 (5) - This doesn't work here, it disrupts the vocal and doesn't really follow the rhythm, it's better at 00:22:023 fixed
00:46:355 (7) - The jump to this note is really big but there's nothing to emphasize here, it plays a nicer and makes more sense somewhere at x:300/y:86 fixed
00:59:087 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The jump to the stream is massive and having movement going upwards again is really awkward, it's better to have this stream flow downwards and re-arranging the next notes something like this fixed
SPOILER
01:08:506 (6,7,1) - Sooo emphasis here is a bit off. The jump from 6-7 is bigger than 7-1 even though 7 has nothing of importance on it while 1 has a dominant bass hit fixed
01:15:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Pretty bad flow, ctrl+J the stream and rotate it a bit fixed
01:19:669 (6,7,1) - The jumps to and from 7 are a bit overdone fixed
01:24:029 (7,1) - So I think this is the biggest jump in the map, but what's the reasoning? Adding a finish doesn't justify a gigantic jump for no reason fixed
01:33:448 (5,6) - This jump is big too, nothing in the music changes to suggest this distance fixed
01:38:855 (2) - Rather have this as a 1/2+circle since this slider is currently following the piano and then suddenly this slider 01:39:552 (1) - ignores the piano and follows vocals fixed
Overall it's a decent diff with nice patterns, it just gets repetitive, as does most dnb ;-; Thank you C: I will try to follow the vocals next time!

[Collab Hard]
00:15:483 (4,1) - Slight overlap and probably unintended fixed
00:30:483 (3,3,4) - "Object's end is not snapped!" thx aimod fixed
Gl~

Lumael

1,520 posts

Joined December 2014

Lumael 2015-08-28T22:35:49+00:00

Fixed everything of Synpoo's mod but the snare thing because I didn't understand

And Lolllllllla, it's playable.

Hard

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Title:Kismet feat. Riya
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Artist:Hybrid Minds
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52,308,60134,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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312,176,72692,1,8,0:0:0:0:
251,247,73041,6,0,P|303:271|404:164,1,200,4|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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48,232,75483,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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248,320,78273,1,8,0:0:0:0:
156,280,78622,6,0,L|44:292,1,100,6|8,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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440,116,81064,1,8,0:0:0:0:
480,208,81413,6,0,B|468:264|496:332|496:332|452:320|388:332,1,200,2|0,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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404,100,85599,2,0,P|332:92|264:224,1,200,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,188,86645,1,8,0:0:0:0:
412,272,86994,6,0,P|420:324|408:384,1,100,2|8,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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272,340,89785,6,0,P|200:348|152:336,1,100,4|8,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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384,235,95017,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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384,235,96413,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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