20:42 kalandrawow: you want a mod?
20:43 Jenny: sure
20:44 kalandrawow: 00:00:388 (1,2,4,5) - why isn't 2 in line with 1 like 4 is in line with 5?
20:44 kalandrawow: seems like it'd be a neat pattern to start off with
20:45 Jenny: I didn't want to keep the whole strictly-clockwise theme going past one pattern
20:45 Jenny: so you have to catch 5 more actively again since you then swap over to the left
20:45 Jenny: and cross through 4 on the 6-1
20:45 Jenny: gives a better entry into the next combo due to the snaps
20:46 kalandrawow: moving 1 and 2 to allow them to be a straight line won't hamper the transition from 4->5->6, but alas this is almost always going to be giving my personal advice rather than actual "this shit is wronk"
20:47 Jenny: if I put 1-2 into a straight line, the triangle becomes extremely static
20:47 kalandrawow: true, and i'd prefer it that way, since it's rather awkward as a "spiraly" pattern
20:47 kalandrawow: it doesnt last long enough to feel circle-y
20:48 Jenny: I don't like having something in the middle of a triangle, most of the time
20:48 Jenny: specifically if it's a slider, which screws with the consistency of distance between the objects
20:49 kalandrawow: that's fine, like i said, personal advice rather than telling you it's wrong
20:49 kalandrawow: 00:02:234 - this isn't as powerful as the start or anything else for a while for that matter, i believe this kiai is quite superfluous
20:49 Jenny: actually
20:49 Jenny: I will make it more kiais
20:49 kalandrawow: a high density of kiai doesn't make the song more epic
20:49 kalandrawow: it makes it more childish
20:50 kalandrawow: imo
20:50 Jenny: well yeah
20:50 kalandrawow: you've already got pretty liberal use of kiai going there
20:50 Jenny: this is 2/1 for the intro, and the intro only
20:51 kalandrawow: 00:33:695 (1,1) - OH GOD
20:51 kalandrawow: 1/3 spinner ending lol
20:51 kalandrawow: ignore that its just me whining
20:51 Jenny: the entire song works in 1/3
20:51 kalandrawow: i hate spinners with a passion
20:51 Jenny: or 1/6 rather
20:51 kalandrawow: i know
20:51 Jenny: I only use the spinner since the guitar goes very frontlayer-ish here while not having any additional strings
20:51 kalandrawow: its more the short time before the spinner ends and the note starts
20:51 kalandrawow: i am aware
20:51 kalandrawow: i just
20:51 kalandrawow: really hate
20:51 kalandrawow: spinners
20:51 Jenny: it's one of these pull-it-and-wobble-it scenarios
20:51 Jenny: :p
20:52 Jenny: a spinner doesn't block approachcircles though
20:52 kalandrawow: Now, one thing i want to ask
20:52 Jenny: *unless you use the awful default one x:
20:52 kalandrawow: is the non-exactly-perfect spacing of patterns a stylistic choice because lesjuh often did the same or is it just unpolished
20:53 Jenny: ?
20:53 Jenny: what does that mean
20:53 kalandrawow: When you have patterns like a triangle or a square or stuff like that
20:53 kalandrawow: they won't form a perfect triangle or square ever
20:54 Jenny: such as?
20:54 Jenny: when I actually want to use triangles/squares, I use perfect ones
20:54 kalandrawow: 00:44:234 (5,6,7) - e.g. 5 isn't halway between 6 and 7
20:54 kalandrawow: basically
20:54 Jenny: that is not meant to be a triangle
20:54 kalandrawow: asymetrical shapes
20:54 Jenny: that is a back and forth pattern
20:54 Jenny: it's meant to resonate with the bouncing of the hitclap
20:54 kalandrawow: i prefer symmetry but i'm nuts like that, its a stylistic choice like i asked
20:55 kalandrawow: just wanted to make sure it was intentional
20:55 Jenny: thing about symmetrical patterns is
20:55 Jenny: they are more static
20:55 kalandrawow: indeed
20:55 Jenny: I use symmetry for key high-pressure parts of the map
20:55 Jenny: like the triangle spam before second kiai
20:55 Jenny: 02:20:695 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) -
20:55 kalandrawow: but i usually map really repetetive, techno-like thigns with really consistent beats, so static-ness is far easier to control and manipulate
20:55 Jenny: high-pressured cursorbinding
20:56 kalandrawow: while a "live" play of a song like this favors more organic patterns
20:56 kalandrawow: 01:02:695 (5) - move this down 1 gridspot?
20:57 Jenny: >"gridspot"
20:57 kalandrawow: tiny, of course
20:57 Jenny: but yeah, a little bit
20:57 kalandrawow: SHUSH
20:57 kalandrawow: terminology is my kryptonite
20:57 Jenny: 92|129 -> 95|137
20:57 Jenny: so yeah, moved
20:57 kalandrawow: ya sure
20:58 kalandrawow: 01:11:926 (6) - snap to tiny grid or move it even a bit further left
20:59 Jenny: 274|24 -> 270|23
21:00 kalandrawow: sounds good
21:00 kalandrawow: only the dankest of nazi mods
21:00 Jenny: fine with me
21:00 Jenny: chances for you to find things that are /wrong/ on my maps are gonna be low low
21:00 kalandrawow: 02:10:541 (5) - nigga ur slider is offgrid
21:01 kalandrawow: right as u say that
21:01 kalandrawow: lol
21:01 Jenny: so what
21:01 kalandrawow: i thought all notes including slider ending are required to be in-grid
21:01 Jenny:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/322043421:01 Jenny: not really
21:01 kalandrawow: seems fairly obvious to me
21:01 Jenny: playfield is bigger
21:01 kalandrawow: well it would have been an issue back when i was mapping, if it's changed now then ignore it
21:01 kalandrawow: moving on
21:02 Jenny: back in MY day
21:04 kalandrawow: *waves cane in futile anger*
21:04 Jenny: so when was your day? :p
21:04 kalandrawow: shhh
21:04 kalandrawow: also
21:04 kalandrawow: your sliders look neat even if they're not symmetrical
21:04 kalandrawow: surprising
21:05 kalandrawow: most people are ass at making sliders
21:05 Jenny: I should make a bezier-only map :p
21:05 kalandrawow: you should also have some delicious rusty nails for saying that aloud
21:06 Jenny: how so, my beziers are decent x:
21:06 kalandrawow: mostly hypebole joking
21:06 Jenny: also my stream shapes are juicy
21:06 kalandrawow: i keep forgetting that now that hitbursts arent fucking ugly we can overlap notes more freely
21:07 Jenny: I actually never had problems with the 2010 default hitbursts
21:07 kalandrawow: good streams are easy - make a slider, follow the slider
21:07 Jenny: I still like playing and mapping with that skin
21:07 Jenny: I never used the slider-to-stream things
21:07 kalandrawow: they were a pain in the ass to map with
21:07 Jenny: I do it free-hand
21:07 kalandrawow: because people would cry "slider kickback invisible! slider kickback invisible!"
21:07 Jenny: I mapped with them, bae :p
21:07 Jenny: but yeah, my first ranked map got unranked over that
21:08 kalandrawow: so did i
21:08 Jenny: eitherhow
21:08 Jenny: anything else? :p
21:12 kalandrawow: gonna be busy, something came up
21:12 kalandrawow: but yeah mostly fine
21:13 Jenny: "fine"
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