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Pierce The Veil - The First Punch

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Milan-
1,473 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Milan-
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 6:48:05 PM

Artist: Pierce The Veil
Title: The First Punch
Tags: pishifat collide with the sky post hardcore metal punk
BPM: 190
Filesize: 3682kb
Play Time: 01:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.64 stars, 136 notes)
  2. Hard (3.5 stars, 316 notes)
  3. Insane (4.5 stars, 500 notes)
  4. Normal (2.24 stars, 214 notes)
  5. pishi's Extra (5.43 stars, 577 notes)
Download: Pierce The Veil - The First Punch
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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pishi teach me how to extra plsssss


Last edited by Milan- , edited 12 times in total.
ac8129464363
1,560 posts
Joined October 2013
ac8129464363
pishi teach me how to extra plsssss
Milan-
1,473 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Milan-

deetz wrote:

pishi teach me how to extra plsssss
pishi plsssssss
people wants you
guineaQ
1,588 posts
Joined December 2013
guineaQ
powa m4m

General

After playtesting all these diffs I'm constantly hitting too early owo??
maybe you can have a look at the offset again >w>

or it might be because I suck

Insane

  1. 00:22:128 (2,3,4) - these are not stacked properly :S
  2. 01:30:023 (1) - care to move this down a bit more so its little bit more visible?

    Since I have no technical complaints about this map lemme point out some jumps that were uncomfortable playwise
  3. 00:33:812 (4,5,6,7) - imo the spacing is fine, its the angle that's a bit clunky.
  4. 01:35:075 (1,2,3,4) - I personally recommend this arrangement
    sharper angle = better emphasis

    Teach me how2not tap2early

Hard

  1. 00:25:128 (1,2,3,1) - I think it would be a neat touch to space this shorter (like 0.1~2x) since the guitar is weaker than it was at 00:22:602 (1,2,3,1) -
  2. 00:30:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - man I don't like how they are all cluttered up due to low AR, but I haven't got a better alternative
  3. 01:00:338 (2,3) - curve these two only to emphasize the vocal difference (it won't effect gmaeplay that much but the looks), you could instead curve 1 and leave 2,3 straight
  4. 01:43:286 (2,3) - dont forget to copy pasta
nice

Normal

  1. 00:31:917 (3,4,5,6,1) - if this was meant to be a pentagon, I'm lost for words
  2. 01:06:970 (3) - could do it
    like this?
  3. 01:22:286 (4) - personally I would put 1/1 gap and place a circle on the downbeat for the emphasis

    not really sure about the quadruple 1/2 stack at the beginning =w=

Easy

  1. 00:55:917 (5) - em, maybe you could try to make the curve more "showing" lol

    1337 copy pasta kiai

I think I lost some stars somewhere, if you find them you can have them
Milan-
1,473 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Milan-
guineaQ: Did everything except the first gameplay thing on insane cuz i think it plays cool as is ;w; ill see what i can do about timming later, and see if those stacks on normal are ok xd

Thank you <3
Shiranai
2,186 posts
Joined August 2012
Shiranai
Helloooo, I'm sorry for the delay ;(
Some small sugestion from me, I'm trying

[General]
  1. Your combo colors so gloom haha XD and is it fine to have sliderborder and slider trackoverride? yet there's no skin element on your map
  2. Where's the extra? :p
  3. I just see and Lol'd by the tags hahaha
[Easy]
  1. For an easy diff, some combos is quite long (e.g. 00:10:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:03:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:46:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ) Idk how you make the NC, but cut the long one would looks nicer imo
  2. 00:12:970 (5,6,7) - The turn too sharp between them imo, so how about make some movement in here 00:14:233 (7) - to x:278 y:221 http://puu.sh/i6Bv7/e2b9efbacf.jpg or something?
  3. 00:58:444 (1) - Just a minor, try to fix the blanket by rotate 2degree and move to x:174 y:277
  4. 01:23:707 (1) - 01:26:233 (1) - 01:35:707 (1) - Why don't use soft sampleset on end for the silence? because drum sampleset still produce sound when hit, at least it sound louder than soft
  5. 01:41:391 (1) - Just a minor, try to fix the blanket by rotate 2degree and move to x:336 y:106
[Normal]
  1. 00:45:812 (1) - Make it curve? so it can have better paralel flow betwen 00:46:286 (2) - http://puu.sh/i6CJY/89b9eafe88.jpg
  2. 00:46:286 (2) - For better blanket, try to have the end node on x:202 y:51 and it'll flow better with next circle
  3. 00:56:391 (2) - 01:39:338 (2) - Fix the stacking?
  4. 00:56:549 (3) - Add clap on end? the drum sound is somewhat better with that
  5. 00:57:654 (5) - The clap sound be on white tick instead imo, so it'll sound better
  6. 01:23:707 (1) - 01:26:233 (1) - 01:35:707 (1) - Why don't use soft sampleset on end for the silence?
  7. 01:40:602 (5) - The clap sound be on white tick instead imo, so it'll sound better
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:444 (1,2,3,4,5) - Idk it's like the rhythm is hard to follow for the beginning
  2. I'm more consider about the spacing on some streams (e.g. 00:30:654 (1,2,3) - 00:33:181 (1,2,3) -00:52:128 (1,2,3) - ) the spacing on those is not consistent, I mean the spacing is sometimes on 0.5 then 0.6 and then 1.0 yet the SV on the slider is same and the stream rhythm based on the music is same, so in my opinion there's no reason for them to be inconsistent
  3. 01:23:707 (1) - 01:26:233 (1) - 01:35:707 (1) - Why don't use soft sampleset on end for the silence?
  4. 01:56:233 (4) - Flip and rotate -20degree? the flow is somewhat good when it flows circular http://puu.sh/i6EwH/ba739085d4.jpg
[]
Fine and neat map, but it's very hardrock just hearing the music make me dizzy hahaha XD
Anyway goodluck~
Milan-
1,473 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Milan-

Mako Sakata wrote:

Helloooo, I'm sorry for the delay ;(
Some small sugestion from me, I'm trying

[General]
  1. Your combo colors so gloom haha XD and is it fine to have sliderborder and slider trackoverride? yet there's no skin element on your map uh im pretty much copying this https://osu.ppy.sh/s/297909 xd so yea
  2. Where's the extra? :p whenever pishi makes one
  3. I just see and Lol'd by the tags hahaha pishi is love
[Easy]
  1. For an easy diff, some combos is quite long (e.g. 00:10:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 01:03:496 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 01:46:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ) Idk how you make the NC, but cut the long one would looks nicer imo i made it so it fits the music. The music resets every 4 stanzas on this section so it's fine to me uhm..
  2. 00:12:970 (5,6,7) - The turn too sharp between them imo, so how about make some movement in here 00:14:233 (7) - to x:278 y:221 http://puu.sh/i6Bv7/e2b9efbacf.jpg or something? i get your idea, but i don't think it's a problem at all, the movement is clear imo
  3. 00:58:444 (1) - Just a minor, try to fix the blanket by rotate 2degree and move to x:174 y:277 ok xd
  4. 01:23:707 (1) - 01:26:233 (1) - 01:35:707 (1) - Why don't use soft sampleset on end for the silence? because drum sampleset still produce sound when hit, at least it sound louder than soft drum fits nicely i think : (
  5. 01:41:391 (1) - Just a minor, try to fix the blanket by rotate 2degree and move to x:336 y:106 okxd
[Normal]
  1. 00:45:812 (1) - Make it curve? so it can have better paralel flow betwen 00:46:286 (2) - http://puu.sh/i6CJY/89b9eafe88.jpg there's no problem as is imo
  2. 00:46:286 (2) - For better blanket, try to have the end node on x:202 y:51 and it'll flow better with next circle uh i move 2 a bit more down
  3. 00:56:391 (2) - 01:39:338 (2) - Fix the stacking? k
  4. 00:56:549 (3) - Add clap on end? the drum sound is somewhat better with that k
  5. 00:57:654 (5) - The clap sound be on white tick instead imo, so it'll sound better white tick doesn't have snare, but kick (on my ears)
  6. 01:23:707 (1) - 01:26:233 (1) - 01:35:707 (1) - Why don't use soft sampleset on end for the silence? i think drum samp fits there :o
  7. 01:40:602 (5) - The clap sound be on white tick instead imo, so it'll sound better same as b4
[Hard]
  1. 00:10:444 (1,2,3,4,5) - Idk it's like the rhythm is hard to follow for the beginning
  2. I'm more consider about the spacing on some streams (e.g. 00:30:654 (1,2,3) - 00:33:181 (1,2,3) -00:52:128 (1,2,3) - ) the spacing on those is not consistent, I mean the spacing is sometimes on 0.5 then 0.6 and then 1.0 yet the SV on the slider is same and the stream rhythm based on the music is same, so in my opinion there's no reason for them to be inconsistent the 3rd one has another sv tho. and the first is different from the second in terms of rhythm imo. Also 0.1x isn't really a problem xd
  3. 01:23:707 (1) - 01:26:233 (1) - 01:35:707 (1) - Why don't use soft sampleset on end for the silence? i think drum samp fits there :o
  4. 01:56:233 (4) - Flip and rotate -20degree? the flow is somewhat good when it flows circular http://puu.sh/i6EwH/ba739085d4.jpg i rotated it a bit to make it more circular, but not like your example
[]
Fine and neat map, but it's very hardrock just hearing the music make me dizzy hahaha XD lol . thank you <3
Anyway goodluck~
Thank you very much <3
-Kanzaki
889 posts
Joined June 2012
-Kanzaki
Hello! From my queue.

General :



Hard :



  • 00:25:108 (1,2,3) - I don't feel more excited at this parts but i think for this section all distance should be more than the first section which means use just a little bit more SV maybe at 00:20:529 - 00:33:082

    01:23:055 (2) - add a circle ( For every difficulty


Couldn't find much shooting a star.
Yauxo
1,622 posts
Joined June 2011
Yauxo
Unrankable
Rather important change
Not so important change/small note or opinion
(copy paste end | HistoryTag: ~ Sploosh ~)

[General]
■ Leberwurst

[Sir Fishobese]
Dear Sir Fishobese,

I hereby claim these things to be notable, as I found these quite underwhelming. I hope that you, Sir Fishobese, take these noted suggestions by heart and do good things with them.

Here is the list of notable things Ive found in your map: "Pierce The Veil - The First Punch [Fishobese's Extra]"

■ I think that the use of the "Widescreen Support" Feature is used incorrectly. I beg you to uncheck this.
■ 00:13:424 (4,5,6) - I wouldve been very pleased if the mentioned objects had the same spacial correlation as in this example: 00:10:897 (4,5,6) -
■ 00:18:003 (1,2) - The Blanket-your-objects GmbH would like to reclaim their defective object and would like to replace it with a fully functional and tested "1/2 Blanket Slider Mk2 (Nazi Edition)"
■ 00:19:108 (8,1) - The transition and the following movement of the so called "Stream" of these objects are rather questionable. The movement to the right is fine, but the instantly forced left movement isnt written down in my books, so it must be of bad nature.
■ 00:22:897 (6) - I shall suggest that if you were to stack this under 00:22:266 (3) - 's head or tail, it'd have improved flowical flow. You can also alter the coordinates a bit if you dont want it to be stacked.
■ 00:25:424 (6) - If you have changed the above suggestion, then this object should be adjusted as well.
■ 00:30:161 (4,5,6) - I cannot give you examples, but my hand does quite indeed dislike this movement.
■ 00:53:055 (5,6,7,8) - My feeling would rumble and expecience good wibes if these 5 objects would have increased spacial correlation. It does quite fit the music on this part.
■ 01:25:897 (5,6,7,8) - This shall have the same suggestion as the matter mentioned above.

Regards,
Me

[Insane]
■ 00:30:950 (3,6) - How about placing a Circle on the white tick to not have a 5th repeat hit, but a stronger, clickable object to start your snapping from instead?
■ 00:41:055 (3,6) - ^ Would be much better imo
■ 00:43:266 (1,2,3) - either unstack this or stack 00:33:161 (1,2,3) - to have more of that fancy, but evil thing called consistency that everybody wants?
■ 01:09:318 (4,5) - Maybe this? Would make the jump from 4 -> 5 feel better imo

■ 01:22:424 (1,1) - It's not outside of the screen yet, buuuuuuuuut I guess it wouldnt hurt to move it up a little
■ 01:29:687 (4,1) - This feels like an antijump to me, as there's not really any indication on a stop-and-go movement (neither in the song, nor in the patterns used before that) Space that one away maybe? °^°
■ 01:31:266 (1) - ^?
■ 01:47:213 (4) - Copy 2+3, paste as 4+5, make sure 5 is where the Slider is at

The Normal -> Hard spread looks risky to me. Hard is full of 1/2s and has many triplets, Normal is ... well, normal.

[Normal]
■ 00:22:582 (5,6,7,1) - Im not quite sure about these kinds of stacks, as I havent really seen those in Normals yet. Might want to make sure that these are okay

Lower diffs look k (dirty copy paste D:<)
pishifat
osu! Paragon
3,802 posts
Joined August 2013
pishifat
i read this right after i woke up and i actually thought fishobese was german

y

Yauxo wrote:

[Sir Fishobese]
Dear Sir Fishobese,

I hereby claim these things to be notable, as I found these quite underwhelming. I hope that you, Sir Fishobese, take these noted suggestions by heart and do good things with them.

Here is the list of notable things Ive found in your map: "Pierce The Veil - The First Punch [Fishobese's Extra]"

■ I think that the use of the "Widescreen Support" Feature is used incorrectly. I beg you to uncheck this. no change
■ 00:13:424 (4,5,6) - I wouldve been very pleased if the mentioned objects had the same spacial correlation as in this example: 00:10:897 (4,5,6) - idk they're close enoguh to the same. just one is a perfect triangel and the other isn't if you wanted a perfect triagnel thats ew
■ 00:18:003 (1,2) - The Blanket-your-objects GmbH would like to reclaim their defective object and would like to replace it with a fully functional and tested "1/2 Blanket Slider Mk2 (Nazi Edition)" br jdabi.
■ 00:19:108 (8,1) - The transition and the following movement of the so called "Stream" of these objects are rather questionable. The movement to the right is fine, but the instantly forced left movement isnt written down in my books, so it must be of bad nature. go away
■ 00:22:897 (6) - I shall suggest that if you were to stack this under 00:22:266 (3) - 's head or tail, it'd have improved flowical flow. You can also alter the coordinates a bit if you dont want it to be stacked. but repeated sound --> repeated placement --> screw ideal flow
■ 00:25:424 (6) - If you have changed the above suggestion, then this object should be adjusted as well.
■ 00:30:161 (4,5,6) - I cannot give you examples, but my hand does quite indeed dislike this movement. die
■ 00:53:055 (5,6,7,8) - My feeling would rumble and expecience good wibes if these 5 objects would have increased spacial correlation. It does quite fit the music on this part. geirg
■ 01:25:897 (5,6,7,8) - This shall have the same suggestion as the matter mentioned above. but no vocalz?

Regards,
Me

x
osu file format v14

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Yauxo
1,622 posts
Joined June 2011
Yauxo
Half of the points were actually just fished out there so that I could use more fancy words
Milan-
1,473 posts
Joined August 2011
Topic Starter
Milan-

Yauxo wrote:

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Rather important change
Not so important change/small note or opinion
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[General]
■ Leberwurst :o (i didnt get the Fishobese joke tho ;w;)


[Insane]
■ 00:30:950 (3,6) - How about placing a Circle on the white tick to not have a 5th repeat hit, but a stronger, clickable object to start your snapping from instead? Uh i plays so weird/bad imo ):
■ 00:41:055 (3,6) - ^ Would be much better imo ^
■ 00:43:266 (1,2,3) - either unstack this or stack 00:33:161 (1,2,3) - to have more of that fancy, but evil thing called consistency that everybody wants? uh consistency isn't neccesary here. both have different impact/rhythm, so having different stacking is more than fine
■ 01:09:318 (4,5) - Maybe this? Would make the jump from 4 -> 5 feel better imo ok

■ 01:22:424 (1,1) - It's not outside of the screen yet, buuuuuuuuut I guess it wouldnt hurt to move it up a little it'snot out of screen, so it's fine as is (lazy to move the whole pattern blankets and stuff/w\)
■ 01:29:687 (4,1) - This feels like an antijump to me, as there's not really any indication on a stop-and-go movement (neither in the song, nor in the patterns used before that) Space that one away maybe? °^° i think it's fine, there's a pause on the lyrics, that's why i did the same with 01:31:266 (1) - . But if you/someone wants me to kill me cuz of it, ill do something iguess:o
■ 01:31:266 (1) - ^?
■ 01:47:213 (4) - Copy 2+3, paste as 4+5, make sure 5 is where the Slider is at uh, if i understood correctly, you want me to put the slider over that circle right? like here http://puu.sh/ikeWH/043d48fe35.jpg I think it's fine as is cuz, you can rotate the copied 2+3 and it'll land where the slider is right now:o

The Normal -> Hard spread looks risky to me. Hard is full of 1/2s and has many triplets, Normal is ... well, normal. uh merged triples into repeaters and did some few changes blabla. hope it's fine now):

[Normal]
■ 00:22:582 (5,6,7,1) - Im not quite sure about these kinds of stacks, as I havent really seen those in Normals yet. Might want to make sure that these are okay i just changed, cuz it's too yolo right now hue

Lower diffs look k (dirty copy paste D:<) copypáste is the best thing i've ever learnt to do
@kanzaki: the hentai thing was a joke i think. but rip. also added tags yes. For the Hard, adding more SVs makes the map confusing imo, and there's a slider where you said to add a circle:o

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Talked over IRC with Milan. Fixed a few general things, made the Hard diff a little bit easier (again) and changed some patterns in the Insane diff.
Bubbled!

IRC Log
20:34 Milan-: cry
20:45 appleeaterx: btw i think ur gap between n/h/i is questionable
20:46 Milan-: oh tits
20:46 Milan-: how
20:47 appleeaterx: your insane is ez
20:47 appleeaterx: ur hard is very hard
20:47 appleeaterx: your normal is normal
20:47 Milan-: let me nerf some parts in hard
20:48 Milan-: it's mostly the intro right?
20:48 appleeaterx: back and forth jumps
20:48 appleeaterx: 1/4 usage yea
20:48 appleeaterx: i can be wrong ofc, but it feels a bit risky to me
20:51 Milan-: yep let me see what i can do ><
20:51 Milan-: did u like my copypaste
20:53 appleeaterx: copypaste is the best always
20:57 Milan-: xd
21:12 Milan-: what about now
21:13 Milan-: or do i nerf more xd
21:15 appleeaterx: its better
21:17 Milan-: :o ok
21:23 *appleeaterx is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/703445 Pierce The Veil - The First Punch [Easy]]
21:23 appleeaterx: wtf is your nc pattern. most of the times ur combo's are 3 to 5 objects, but @ the intro and near the end combo's are consist of like 9 objects.... your combo's dont get this large in the normal diff either, i recommend keeping combo's of like max. 5
21:25 Milan-: the very beginning is 4 stanza as the music "resets" every 4
21:26 Milan-: from 00:20:529 - i nc'd where the music calls for it
21:26 Milan-: from 00:43:266 - it gets slower
21:26 Milan-: so it makes sense, to me, makes the nc again every 4
21:26 appleeaterx: 01:48:950 (6) - can use nc here then
21:27 appleeaterx: to keep all combo's in last part 4
21:30 Milan-: ill double the ncs on the kiais
21:30 Milan-: but the slow parts makes sense to keep it as is i think
21:30 appleeaterx: ok cool
21:32 appleeaterx: normal:
21:32 appleeaterx: disable damn widescreen support ;-;
21:33 Milan-: xD
21:33 Milan-: ok
21:33 Milan-: btw is it fine to have the preview point unsnapped
21:34 appleeaterx: rather not, but not unrankable iirc
21:34 appleeaterx: but if you can snap it to something, why not o-o?
21:36 Milan-: lazyness
21:36 Milan-: but yea doneene
21:37 appleeaterx: insane:
21:37 appleeaterx: disable damn widescreen support ;-;
21:37 appleeaterx: 01:09:476 (5,1) - dunno if intended, but this blanket looks crappy ;w;
21:37 appleeaterx: 01:48:950 (1,2,3,4) - again dunno if intended, but really? this is exact the same pattern as 01:06:003 (1,2,3,4) - , at the same moment. u can be more creative than this
21:37 appleeaterx: 01:55:266 (1,2,3,4,5) - this stream sounds so weird to me. usually you change to sliders when the low drum sounds kick in, and now you just randomly put them on the red tick... try this? http://puu.sh/iwbER/8e00851a75.jpg
21:40 Milan-: i didnt see that repeated pattern haha
21:40 Milan-: how u
21:42 Milan-: did those stuffs ya
21:44 appleeaterx: hmm
21:44 appleeaterx: well
21:44 appleeaterx: only thing i can complain about now is 00:20:529 (1,2,1,2) - in the easy diff
21:44 appleeaterx: but you prob wont change that
21:45 Milan-: what's wrong there
21:46 Milan-: the only way it'll sound ok is spamming 1/1 which is ...
21:46 appleeaterx: yeah thats why
21:46 appleeaterx: well update and ill bubble
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