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Ellie Goulding - Burn [Taiko]

posted 2014-01-06T21:23:36+00:00

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Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-06T21:23:36+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 23, 2014 at 2:09:59 PM

Artist: Ellie Goulding
Title: Burn
Tags: Halcyon Days electropop
BPM: 174
Filesize: 3933kb
Play Time: 02:24
Difficulties Available:

Futsuu (4.28 stars, 363 notes)
Kantan (3.03 stars, 271 notes)
Muzukashii (4.8 stars, 541 notes)
Oni (4.94 stars, 753 notes)

Download: Ellie Goulding - Burn
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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2nd taiko mapset going for rank. Enjoy ~~
Also check out the standard mapset here !

Last edited by Nashmun 2014-02-23T13:10:24+00:00, edited 12 times in total.

NoYzE

Joined October 2013

NoYzE 2014-01-08T21:51:34+00:00

[Kantan]
00:09:778 (15) - Sudden break of the Rhythm pattern from before (unexpected)
00:11:157 (18) - Same
00:31:329 (54) - Same / Does not fit vocals / too hard for Kantan(?)
And so on...

[Futsuu]
00:10:122 (22) - This part is a break from previous pattern / unexpected (not rhythm based).
00:28:571 (68) - Same as Kantan though it is reasonable for Futsuu difficulty, but not for flow (there is no beat that indicates triplets).
Rest: I like it

[Muzukashii]
00:28:571 (89) - I see your point going through the diffs (in fact very nice idea, but may be too hard for lower diffs).
I think Muzu is the right place to introduce some sort of play-around, so it is fine.

[Oni]
Looks good for me (not experienced in Oni)

As always, if you like the parts, please keep them, it's just my opinion.

Looking forward to play this ranked

Aurele

osu! Alumni

Joined January 2011

Aurele 2014-01-08T21:52:40+00:00

OMG NASHMUN

JE T'AIME ♥

toara_fict

Joined July 2012

toara_fict 2014-01-09T07:43:24+00:00

Hey :3
i received taiko mod request from you. ( PM )

[

about]

d is don note
k is kat note
D is Finish don note
K is Finish kat note
Purple is UnRankble , Please change
Green is I would strongly recommend
black is Pointed out that

[

General]

AudioLeadIn 0 => 2000 ~ 3000 ?
Audio Samplest Soft => Normal ...?

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[ Kantan]
1. 00:09:778 (16,17,19,20) - I think this note is very hard timming . Change 00:10:122 (16) - move 00:10:295 (16) - , 00:10:467 (17) - move 00:10:640 (17) - , 00:11:502 (19,20) - At the same as 00:10:122 (16,17) - . ( Along Back melody ) or 17 . 20 nots delete ?
  Pattern after this is the same . 00:31:329 (54,55,56) - 00:32:709 (58,59,60) - 00:35:468 (64,65,66) - 00:36:847 (68,69,70) - 00:40:985 (75,76,77) - 00:42:364 (79,80,81) - etc
  
  I think it is good when off the middle of the notes of three.
  
  will be better to put in place that is easy to do for beginners.
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[ Futsuu]
1. 00:50:467 (6) - Change k ? ( 00:50:295 - and 00:50:467 - it piano sound hear . Change k here )
2. 01:23:916 (70) - 01:25:295 (75) - 01:26:674 (80) - Delete ? ( It is supplemented without placed notes . )
3. 02:03:752 (3) - ~ 02:14:787 (1) - ( High degree of difficulty ...><? )
  
  higher or a little this diff? ><
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[ Muzukashii]
1. 01:04:088 (25,26,27,28) - Change kkk D ? ( 00:58:571 (7,8,9,10) - This pertten . )
2. 01:28:916 (117,118) - Not Finish ? ( I think that it is not necessary . )
3. 01:37:019 - 01:38:398 - 01:43:916 - add note here. ( Next note follow ? )
4. 02:00:649 (25,26,27,28) - ( 01:04:088 - pertten :3 )
  
  nice diff! but often BIG note ><
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[ Oni]
1. 00:13:053 (34,35,36) - Change k k d ?
2. 00:25:812 (80,81) - d d ? ( I think well >< )
3. 00:31:071 (106) - Change d ? ( 00:31:157 (107) - Different sound 00:31:071 (106) - )
4. 00:44:778 (38,39,40,41,42) - Delete Finish or Delete (41) nots ...?
5. 01:28:916 (161,162) - ( Muzu too :3 )
6. 01:31:502 - add d here . ( 01:31:674 (173) - Next note follow )
7. 01:34:002 (188) - Delete note ? ( There is no sound )
8. 01:37:019 - 01:43:916 - add d here . ( Next note follow )
9. 01:53:408 (6,7,8) - Change kkd ? ( I think the pattern who is different is good01:53:580 (8,9) -
10. 02:12:804 (146) - Del note ? ( Want to emphasize 02:12:890 (147,148) - this note . )
  
  Fun map with a speedy :3

For rank fight :3 Good Luck :3

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-09T22:34:36+00:00

NoYzE wrote:
[Kantan]
00:09:778 (15) - Sudden break of the Rhythm pattern from before (unexpected)
00:11:157 (18) - Same
00:31:329 (54) - Same / Does not fit vocals / too hard for Kantan(?)
And so on...

Yes it's an uncommon rhythm and kinda hard for a Kantan. However it's still easier than a 1/2 and it's quite interesting for Kantan players because it is mean to help them going through Futsuu plus having while playing an easy diff instead of boring random 2/1 1/1.
Regarding the consistancy break, if you look closely through all diff, that part is always mapped a little differently because it's the last bar of the intro. Making it a different rhythm helps and brrings out the intro/verse transition (Called a brigdge/break). So it's intended in every diff and I won't change it

[Futsuu]
00:10:122 (22) - This part is a break from previous pattern / unexpected (not rhythm based). See Kantan comment
00:28:571 (68) - Same as Kantan though it is reasonable for Futsuu difficulty, but not for flow (there is no beat that indicates triplets).
Rest: I like it

[Muzukashii]
00:28:571 (89) - I see your point going through the diffs (in fact very nice idea, but may be too hard for lower diffs). Seems acceptable for me. It's nice for beginners to play maps that will bring them to next lever of difficulty (Kantan => Futsuu bridge)
I think Muzu is the right place to introduce some sort of play-around, so it is fine.

[Oni]
Looks good for me (not experienced in Oni)

As always, if you like the parts, please keep them, it's just my opinion.

Looking forward to play this ranked
Thank you :3. Regarding the lower diffs, I'll keep the Half note triplets ; I tried to isolate them as much as I could for Kantan so that the player isn't too destabilized

Hey :3
i received taiko mod request from you. ( PM )

[

about]

d is don note
k is kat note
D is Finish don note
K is Finish kat note
Purple is UnRankble , Please change
Green is I would strongly recommend
black is Pointed out that

[

General]

AudioLeadIn 0 => 2000 ~ 3000 ? There is already a 1sec lead-in
Audio Samplest Soft => Normal ...? M'okay

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[ Kantan]
1. 00:09:778 (16,17,19,20) - I think this note is very hard timming . Change 00:10:122 (16) - move 00:10:295 (16) - , 00:10:467 (17) - move 00:10:640 (17) - , 00:11:502 (19,20) - At the same as 00:10:122 (16,17) - . ( Along Back melody ) or 17 . 20 nots delete ?
  Pattern after this is the same . 00:31:329 (54,55,56) - 00:32:709 (58,59,60) - 00:35:468 (64,65,66) - 00:36:847 (68,69,70) - 00:40:985 (75,76,77) - 00:42:364 (79,80,81) - etc
  
  I think it is good when off the middle of the notes of three.
  
  I fixed nothing here, you basically asked me to delete the whole diff since it's base on half note triplets. I know it's a high-tier Kantan, but it still a Kantan. I never understood why only Oni players could have fun map and Kantan/Futsuu players should only play boring map with random notes throw. As there is some hard Oni, there also is some hard maps for lower difficulty.
  
  will be better to put in place that is easy to do for beginners.
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[ Futsuu]
1. 00:50:467 (6) - Change k ? ( 00:50:295 - and 00:50:467 - it piano sound hear . Change k here ) Fixed
2. 01:23:916 (70) - 01:25:295 (75) - 01:26:674 (80) - Delete ? ( It is supplemented without placed notes . ) I'm not sure I understood correctly what you meant, but it does follow the guitar, so I'll keep it from know (Feel free to explain further your suggestion)
3. 02:03:752 (3) - ~ 02:14:787 (1) - ( High degree of difficulty ...><? ) That's a lot of 1/2 indeed, but I made sure they are isolated so IMO it still belongs to Futsuu
  
  higher or a little this diff? ><
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[ Muzukashii]
1. 01:04:088 (25,26,27,28) - Change kkk D ? ( 00:58:571 (7,8,9,10) - This pertten . ) Fixed
2. 01:28:916 (117,118) - Not Finish ? ( I think that it is not necessary . ) Fixed
3. 01:37:019 - 01:38:398 - 01:43:916 - add note here. ( Next note follow ? ) Only fixed 01:43:916
4. 02:00:649 (25,26,27,28) - ( 01:04:088 - pertten :3 ) Fixed
  
  nice diff! but often BIG note >< Hum yes, tbh I forgot to remove some in the chorus when uploading it, but I'll let further mods point it out more accurately
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[ Oni]
1. 00:13:053 (34,35,36) - Change k k d ? Fixed
2. 00:25:812 (80,81) - d d ? ( I think well >< ) I only changed 00:25:812 (80) here
3. 00:31:071 (106) - Change d ? ( 00:31:157 (107) - Different sound 00:31:071 (106) - ) Not changed, doesn't sounds goods imo
4. 00:44:778 (38,39,40,41,42) - Delete Finish or Delete (41) nots ...? Not fixed, the finisher is important here to fit the climax and I want to keep my 5 notes pattern.
5. 01:28:916 (161,162) - ( Muzu too :3 ) Hum, I fixed it in the Muzu because it looked heavy with all the 1/2, but here I think it fits well. Not changing for now but I could change it if it's too inconsistent
6. 01:31:502 - add d here . ( 01:31:674 (173) - Next note follow ) Following the drums here, so no changes
7. 01:34:002 (188) - Delete note ? ( There is no sound ) No this construction is important and fit the background melody.
8. 01:37:019 - 01:43:916 - add d here . ( Next note follow ) Same here, following the drums
9. 01:53:408 (6,7,8) - Change kkd ? ( I think the pattern who is different is good01:53:580 (8,9) - Sounds weird to me, no changes
10. 02:12:804 (146) - Del note ? ( Want to emphasize 02:12:890 (147,148) - this note . )I don't like it :<
  
  Fun map with a speedy :3

For rank fight :3 Good Luck :3
Thanks a lot :3

Thanks both of you for your mods !

Gabe wrote:
OMG NASHMUN

JE T'AIME ♥

Gabe ♥

DenoisoGoiso

Joined April 2013

DenoisoGoiso 2014-01-10T19:45:01+00:00

~~barn barn barn barn~~ \:D/
Hi! from my queue.

[General]

the bg size was 900 x 600

[Kantan]

Any feedback/greetings and General
- nothing ;D Good always. but slider velocity is no problem? he?

Kats Suggestion
- 00:18:571 (31) - add kat here? this pattern will be perfectly follow the music. this pattern really reading music.
  00:21:329 (35) - ^ ^
  00:24:433 (42) - ^ ^
  00:28:571 (50) - ^ ^ (with vocal tho)
  01:47:363 (4) - ^ ^ (with vocal tho maybe :3)

Delete/Add Suggestion
- low priority \:D/

Other Suggestion
- 00:09:778 (15,16,17) - i really don't know what pattern do you follow? maybe i suggest you to move the (16,17) to the white tick to right with 1/1 beatsnap divisor. this is may help you to make the patterns follow music correclty. also i the image suggestion :
  SPOILER

[Futsuu]

Any feedback/greetings and General
- same description like kantan ;D

Kats Suggestion
- 01:12:709 (44) - add kat? lower voice to high. this may help the pattern to follow the music similiar like ddk.01:55:132 (7,8) - add kat? lower instrumental/drum to high. note will follow the music perfectly similiar like kkd.

Delete/Add Suggestion
- nothing >:3

Other Suggestion
- damn so clean

[Muzukashii]

Any feedback/greetings and General
- why in the kiai part is so easy ;w; u do dis nashmun ;w; genius :v

Kats Suggestion
- gah

Delete/Add Suggestion
- really low priorities ;w;

Other Suggestion
- ah damn so clean

i can't mod oni because too godlike ;w; will give star for you \:D/
Don't give me kudos if not helpfull D: sorry. ._.
alright. good luck.

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-10T20:30:17+00:00

~~barn barn barn barn~~ \:D/
Hi! from my queue.

[General]

the bg size was 900 x 600

[Kantan]

Any feedback/greetings and General
- nothing ;D Good always. but slider velocity is no problem? he? 1.20 is ok for Kantan :3

Kats Suggestion
- 00:18:571 (31) - add kat here? this pattern will be perfectly follow the music. this pattern really reading music. I don't want to make too many color changes in that part because I don't want Kantan players to be totally lost, as it's already a hard kantan diff.
  00:21:329 (35) - ^ ^ Fixed here for consistency with previous pattern
  00:24:433 (42) - ^ ^ Not fixed (see 00:18:571 (31) )
  00:28:571 (50) - ^ ^ (with vocal tho) Not fixed (see 00:18:571 (31) )
  01:47:363 (4) - ^ ^ (with vocal tho maybe :3) Not fixed (see 00:18:571 (31) )

Delete/Add Suggestion
- low priority \:D/

Other Suggestion
- 00:09:778 (15,16,17) - i really don't know what pattern do you follow? maybe i suggest you to move the (16,17) to the white tick to right with 1/1 beatsnap divisor. this is may help you to make the patterns follow music correclty. also i the image suggestion :
  SPOILER
  It was intended to be like 00:11:157 (18,19,20) - because if you watch carefully I did a special pattern at this exact moment for each difficulty. Maybe 15,16,17 can be distracting so I applied your suggestion for this bar only.

[Futsuu]

Any feedback/greetings and General
- same description like kantan ;D

Kats Suggestion
- 01:12:709 (44) - add kat? lower voice to high. this may help the pattern to follow the music similiar like ddk. Yes but I want to keep the mirror construction that I'm using through the whole map, so no change here
  01:55:132 (7,8) - add kat? lower instrumental/drum to high. note will follow the music perfectly similiar like kkd. ^

Delete/Add Suggestion
- nothing >:3

Other Suggestion
- damn so clean

[Muzukashii]

Any feedback/greetings and General
- why in the kiai part is so easy ;w; u do dis nashmun ;w; genius :v B-b-but ;w;

Kats Suggestion
- gah blbl

Delete/Add Suggestion
- really low priorities ;w;

Other Suggestion
- ah damn so clean :3

i can't mod oni because too godlike ;w; will give star for you \:D/ Wow, thanks !
Don't give me kudos if not helpfull D: sorry. ._.
alright. good luck.

Thanks for your mod !

Kagami Yuki

Joined January 2012

Kagami Yuki 2014-01-11T14:57:05+00:00

Hi Nashhhhhhhh moe:D
Mod from my queue.
You set this for rank wow.\:D/

[Oni]

00:03:571 (7) - k here can be a good change.
00:06:329 (14) - d here ._.
00:28:053 (88,89,90,91,92) - how about kkddk here?
00:28:571 (93,94,95) - from here and the same three part at 00:29:950 (100,101,102) - | 00:31:329 (108,109,110) - | 00:32:709 (115,116,117) - About those 1/3 stuff,I think there's no sound even drum hits .so please change those patterns to let them suit the song.
01:33:916 (186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - dkkdk ddkkd can be good here ;D
I like you finisher.

[Muzukashii]

00:03:571 (7) - k here can be a good change.
00:06:329 (14) - d here ._.
the same with those 1/3 stuff.
01:04:433 (28) - why no finisher here?
02:00:994 (28) - ^
02:03:752 - to 02:14:787 - ... how about more pattern uses? those patterns you use now .........._(;3 I hope you can fix it.
Muzu is not a simple diff that cut some notes from Oni. I would like to map it in a far-more-fun way.But overall its fine

Here are my mods.
Good luck for ranking~

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-11T15:44:56+00:00

- Kagami Yuki -

Hi Nashhhhhhhh moe:D Hi Yuki moe :3
Mod from my queue.
You set this for rank wow.\:D/

[Oni]

00:03:571 (7) - k here can be a good change. Sounds good as it is
00:06:329 (14) - d here ._. No this note is high pitched compared to the previous one
00:28:053 (88,89,90,91,92) - how about kkddk here? I want to keep 92 a don, so no change
00:28:571 (93,94,95) - from here and the same three part at 00:29:950 (100,101,102) - | 00:31:329 (108,109,110) - | 00:32:709 (115,116,117) - About those 1/3 stuff,I think there's no sound even drum hits .so please change those patterns to let them suit the song. They do suit the song, they are half note triplets and they support the Background synthesizer
01:33:916 (186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - dkkdk ddkkd can be good here ;D I like it. Fixed
I like you finisher. Thanks :3

[Muzukashii]

00:03:571 (7) - k here can be a good change. Same than Oni
00:06:329 (14) - d here ._. ^
the same with those 1/3 stuff. ^
01:04:433 (28) - why no finisher here? Oops, fixed
02:00:994 (28) - ^ ^
02:03:752 - to 02:14:787 - ... how about more pattern uses? those patterns you use now .........._(;3 I hope you can fix it. Okay I added some patterns in that part :< But I just feel like all the mods on my Muzu just transformed it into an Oni orz
Muzu is not a simple diff that cut some notes from Oni. I would like to map it in a far-more-fun way.But overall its fine It's not what I did even if the two diff have the same structure. The verses in both diff looks pretty similar because it's mapped strictly to the drums for both of them. I just added some 1/4 in oni to fit more its difficulty criteria, but it's logical to see those two diff being similar.

Here are my mods.
Good luck for ranking~

Thanks for the mod ! I did some more changes on the Muzu' chorus regarding what you guys told me. However, it does look like an Oni now so I'm kinda disappointed about this diff ;-; I'm considering changing it into Oni and making another Muzu :<

Yuzeyun

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2014-01-11T17:26:49+00:00

Bon vu que tu es prêt

[Muzu]
En premier parce que raisons

00:10:122 (24,25,26,27) - 00:11:502 (29,30,31,32) - Je vois que tu veux amener un peu plus d'intensité au début mais passer direct de 1-1 (par 25-27) à 4 notes ça fait un peu brusque. Le premier des notes du dddk est pas vraiment nécessaire pour ce qui suit après. Je te conseille soit de lisser un peu l'intensité avant soit de retourner sur les patterns de base, au choix. (En plus la musique bah yo band pass)

00:13:053 (33,34,35) - Si tu suis la musique, les hauteurs de notes vont de haut en bas.
00:15:812 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - Reste sur les patterns d'avant, la musique change pas (et ça fait un overmapping)
00:22:019 (62,63,64,65,66,67) - ^ Pareil ici mais dans une mondre mesure.
de 00:23:053 - tu commences à augmenter l'intensité un peu trop tôt je trouve.
00:28:226 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - Ce genre de patterns va pas trop avec la musique honnêtement, je te conseille plus ça en rythme : http://puu.sh/6hgrH.png
00:29:605 (91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - ^ (x3)
00:38:226 (20,21,22) - pareil mais seulement pour la partie 1/2
00:43:743 (48,49,50) - ^

00:46:502 (61,62,63) - Je pense que le mieux est juste de mettre une big sur deux, ou pas du tout pendant l'intro histoire de rendre le kiai bien plus epic
00:58:571 (8,9,10) - k k, pour mieux introduire k k D ?
01:02:709 (25,26,27) - ^
01:04:088 (32,33,34) - ^

01:19:260 (81,82,83,84,85) - http://puu.sh/6hhJQ.png (j'ai symbolisé les kicks en d et autres en k) - le mieux serait de faire k d dk 1/2 ici histoire de rester tranquille par rapport aux drumkicks, et comme ça tu auras une consistance avec 01:20:122 (84,85,86) - .
01:24:605 (102,103,104) - T'as mis un 1/4 alors que tu pouvais très bien faire d k 1/2 ! Si tu fais d k 1/2 tu suivras mieux cette portion de chanson
01:25:985 (108,109,110) - ^

01:33:398 (140,141,142) - Pareil qu'un peu avant, reste en 1/2 ici.
01:35:640 (149,150,151,152,153,154) - je te conseille de mettre seulement k k d en 1/2 histoire de pas surcharger les patterns
01:38:916 (163,164,165) - Reste en 1/2 parce que 3/4 passe pas terrible
01:41:157 (172,173,174) - Si tu as appliqué 149-154, mets k k d pour la consistence.

01:55:132 (8,9,10) - Comme sur le précédent kiai
01:59:270 (25,26,27) - ^
02:00:649 (32,33,34) - ^
02:03:752 (8,9,10,11) - Comme je te l'avais dit hier, mets plutôt D k k en 1/2, d'une histoire que les gens soient pas surpris de jouer ça, de deux à cause de tout 02:02:890 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - .
02:06:511 (24,25,26,27,28) - Un peu risqué niveau big notes pour jouer.
02:10:649 (48,49,50,51) - Un peu plus risqué, mets D k k 1/2 ?
02:24:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - T'as abusé sur les bigs here XD

Bon le reste viendra plus tard, de base je devais faire la map de didz en premier, kd pas tant que j'ai pas fini (au passage j'ai balancé une star o//)
De ce que j'ai vu ça reste très correct. Bien joué!

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-11T18:53:35+00:00

Bon vu que tu es prêt

[Muzu]
En premier parce que raisons

00:10:122 (24,25,26,27) - 00:11:502 (29,30,31,32) - Je vois que tu veux amener un peu plus d'intensité au début mais passer direct de 1-1 (par 25-27) à 4 notes ça fait un peu brusque. Le premier des notes du dddk est pas vraiment nécessaire pour ce qui suit après. Je te conseille soit de lisser un peu l'intensité avant soit de retourner sur les patterns de base, au choix. (En plus la musique bah yo band pass) J'ai delete 25 et 30 et j'ai arrangé les patterns pour coller à la musique. J'aimerai garder quelquechose de différent sur cette mesure pour ammener le premier couplet. En plus, j'ai fait ça sur toutes les diffs donc ça casserai un peu le tout de l'enlever que pour la Muzu

00:13:053 (33,34,35) - Si tu suis la musique, les hauteurs de notes vont de haut en bas. J'ai foutu un kdd d, je trouvais ça un peu répétitif mais bon...
00:15:812 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - Reste sur les patterns d'avant, la musique change pas (et ça fait un overmapping) Bah, enfait si tu écoute bien, c'est justement ce passage là qui suit la musique à 100%. Il y a des sortes de 'notes fantomes' qui se jouent en 1/2 pendant la transition des accords synthé, c'est ce que je suis ici. Je vois pas en quoi ça fait overmapping puisque c'est une construction que je commence à cette mesure et qui est alimentée crescendo dans les mesures d'après.
00:22:019 (62,63,64,65,66,67) - ^ Pareil ici mais dans une mondre mesure. Pourquoi dans une moindre mesure alors que c'est la même construction o.o
de 00:23:053 - tu commences à augmenter l'intensité un peu trop tôt je trouve. Okay, j'ai supprimé 00:25:295 (73) -
00:28:226 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - Ce genre de patterns va pas trop avec la musique honnêtement, je te conseille plus ça en rythme : http://puu.sh/6hgrH.png J'avais foutu les triplets 1/4 pour que le joueur se familisarise avec ces patterns et surtout commencer à augmenter petit à petit l'intensité pour préparer le refrain. Mais bon j'ai viré les 1/4, par contre je garde mes triolets de blanche qui sont important pour la construction générale de la map
00:29:605 (91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108) - ^ (x3) ^ (x3)
00:38:226 (20,21,22) - pareil mais seulement pour la partie 1/2 ^
00:43:743 (48,49,50) - ^ forever ^

00:46:502 (61,62,63) - Je pense que le mieux est juste de mettre une big sur deux, ou pas du tout pendant l'intro histoire de rendre le kiai bien plus epic Ok, j'ai viré toutes les premières big notes
00:58:571 (8,9,10) - k k, pour mieux introduire k k D ? Ok
01:02:709 (25,26,27) - ^ ^
01:04:088 (32,33,34) - ^ ^

01:19:260 (81,82,83,84,85) - http://puu.sh/6hhJQ.png (j'ai symbolisé les kicks en d et autres en k) - le mieux serait de faire k d dk 1/2 ici histoire de rester tranquille par rapport aux drumkicks, et comme ça tu auras une consistance avec 01:20:122 (84,85,86) - . Ok, changé en k dk d 1/2
01:24:605 (102,103,104) - T'as mis un 1/4 alors que tu pouvais très bien faire d k 1/2 ! Si tu fais d k 1/2 tu suivras mieux cette portion de chanson Ouep j'ai hésité, enfait sur la oni c'est du ddk, et du coup j'ai pensé que garder les 1/4 sur cette part pouvait être pas mal. Fixed
01:25:985 (108,109,110) - ^ ^

01:33:398 (140,141,142) - Pareil qu'un peu avant, reste en 1/2 ici. Nope
01:35:640 (149,150,151,152,153,154) - je te conseille de mettre seulement k k d en 1/2 histoire de pas surcharger les patterns je reste en 1/2 mais je fous un kkdd pour rester cohérent avec la première partie
01:38:916 (163,164,165) - Reste en 1/2 parce que 3/4 passe pas terrible Still

01:41:157 (172,173,174) - Si tu as appliqué 149-154, mets k k d pour la consistence. Pareil

01:55:132 (8,9,10) - Comme sur le précédent kiai Idem
01:59:270 (25,26,27) - ^ ^
02:00:649 (32,33,34) - ^ ^
02:03:752 (8,9,10,11) - Comme je te l'avais dit hier, mets plutôt D k k en 1/2, d'une histoire que les gens soient pas surpris de jouer ça, de deux à cause de tout 02:02:890 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - . Viré les 1/4 (Que j'avais rajouté suite aux précédents mods xD) mais du coup j'ai aussi enlevé la note à 02:04:442 - parceque ça faisait vraiment une série trop lourde, en plus ça apporte un rythme sympa je trouve.
02:06:511 (24,25,26,27,28) - Un peu risqué niveau big notes pour jouer.
02:10:649 (48,49,50,51) - Un peu plus risqué, mets D k k 1/2 ? J'ai fait ça à la place

, enlever totalement le triplet faisait bizarre vu qu'il y en à dans la mesure d'avant et dans celle d'après, du coup j'ai laissé un peu plus d'espace pour l'annoncer et j'ai viré la big note devant.
02:24:787 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - T'as abusé sur les bigs here XD Ouais pas faux, je l'ai copié de la oni mais j'ai viré tous les finish sauf le dernier

Bon le reste viendra plus tard, de base je devais faire la map de didz en premier, kd pas tant que j'ai pas fini (au passage j'ai balancé une star o//)
De ce que j'ai vu ça reste très correct. Bien joué!

Merci bien, je reste intransigeant sur mes triolets de blanches qui ont leur places sur cette map mais j'ai appliqué une grosse partie de tes suggestions o7

Neku Okazaki

Neku Okazaki 2014-01-11T20:17:07+00:00

Star

karterfreak

osu! Alumni

Joined August 2011

karterfreak 2014-01-13T20:46:36+00:00

omgerd #modreqs timing.

IRC mod so spoilers for mod info.

14:42 Tasha: you chose the right time to post in modreqs
14:42 Tasha: lol
14:43 Nashmun: Why ? :p
14:43 Tasha: cause i just logged on
14:43 Nashmun: Haha
14:44 Tasha: i don't know how you map such good kiai times and then the rest seems awkward lol
14:44 Nashmun: Meh, I actually like the non-kiai parts :<
14:45 Tasha: its just some note patterns / quintuplet usage
14:45 Tasha: its fine for the most part
14:45 Nashmun: Nobody seems to like my half-note triplets
14:45 Tasha: the kiai's are amazing though
14:45 Tasha: for the oni
14:48 Tasha: can i do some irc modding for you?
14:51 Tasha: Naaaaaaashmun
14:52 Nashmun: Sure
14:52 Tasha: alright i'm half moderating #osu and half modding soooo
14:52 Tasha: i'm gonna keep it kinda simple
14:53 Tasha: the beginning loop
14:53 Tasha: try something like this http://puu.sh/6jQ5l.jpg
14:53 Tasha: it works to go with pitch until vocals, and then start adding to it
14:56 Nashmun: I'm okay until 00:04:778 -
14:57 Nashmun: 00:04:778 (11,12,13) - But this sounds weird to me, without 12 it fits the background music and is a transition to the next bar
14:58 Nashmun: 00:07:536 (18,19,20) - I added a note here too
15:01 Tasha: so you removed 12?
15:02 Nashmun: I just didn't change what was already there
15:03 Tasha: ah, right
15:04 Tasha: also, you could delete 00:06:502 to 00:10:467 and do a copy / paste of the first part.
15:04 Tasha: 00:11:847*
15:05 Nashmun: I want to keep the part from 00:10:122 - to 00:12:019 - Or at least something different
15:05 Nashmun: I did this in every diff so it would be awkward to remove it only on Oni
15:05 Tasha: there a reason you want it to be different?
15:06 Tasha: it'd be an all diff change, i'm just modding the oni atm

15:06 Tasha: it makes sense for it to just be a repeat because its the exact same rhythm
15:06 Tasha: but when lyrics get added in it makes sense to change because there's more to map to\
15:07 Nashmun: Yes, I want this to step up the end of the intro to brings out the first verse
15:07 Nashmun: Like a bridge or idk how to call it in english :p
15:07 Tasha: i know what you mean
15:07 Tasha: but the pace doesn't really change which is why its weird
15:08 Tasha: can keep it if you like but honestly the best part to transition is the lyrics

15:08 Nashmun: Actually it becomes a little louder :<
15:08 Tasha: that doesn't change the pace though
15:08 Tasha: volume and pace are different
15:09 Nashmun: I do like to differentiate the late bar of a part tbh
15:09 Nashmun: That's my drummer syndrome
15:09 Nashmun: last *
15:10 Tasha: what about taking the same pattern as before and building on it then?
15:10 Tasha: like uhhh... http://puu.sh/6jRpn.jpg for example
15:13 Tasha: again how you have it now is fine as is
15:13 Nashmun: You mean from 00:06:502 - ?
15:13 Tasha: yeah
15:15 Nashmun: Or only change the last beat ? Like that http://puu.sh/6jRGq.jpg
15:15 Nashmun: Because steping up the whole part seems too much for me since it's the intro
15:16 Tasha: yeah, that works
15:16 Tasha: moving on
15:16 Tasha: 00:13:916 (35) - sounds like it'd be better as a don
15:17 Nashmun: You're right, fixed
15:18 Tasha: 00:15:812 (40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48) - for parts before we were doing a d k k ddkd kinda pattern for this
15:18 Tasha: but we're building on it now
15:18 Tasha: why not use similar patterning with the same rhythm
15:18 Tasha: ideally it'd look like ddk dk ddkd
15:21 Nashmun: M'okay, I hesitated with ddk kk ddkd but looks good with a dk too
15:21 Tasha: can add a don here: 00:26:674 -
15:22 Nashmun: Yup added
15:26 Tasha: 00:28:140 (87) - should probably remove this. it plays just fine without it and it doesn't really add much either.
15:26 Tasha: 00:31:071 (103) - same with this
15:27 Nashmun: Yes I found those two awkward aswell but noone mentionned it in their mods
15:27 Tasha: 00:38:226 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,1) - i'm liking the rhythm here but there's a part i'd change about it
15:27 Nashmun: the doublets ?
15:27 Tasha: the 27-31 instead of dddkd make it ddd k
15:28 Tasha: and the 36 - 1 change to kkkkd
15:28 Tasha: keep everything else
15:28 Tasha: if you do that compensate a little on 00:43:743 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42) - and try to keep similar patterning
15:28 Nashmun: I'm not sure about the ddd k part
15:29 Tasha: well
15:29 Tasha: you can do ddddk as well
15:30 Nashmun: Yeah that's what I did
15:30 Tasha: but the k should definitely be on the end if you're gonna do the dd dd
15:30 Tasha: then for the next set thats building on that
15:30 Tasha: http://puu.sh/6jSNy.jpg
15:30 Tasha: something like that works
15:30 Nashmun: @ 00:43:743 - dddkk dd dd dkkkd
15:30 Tasha: or ddddk ddddk kkkkd
15:31 Tasha: i liked the building up there so going to doubles again is eeehh

15:32 Tasha: 01:26:674 (149) - should be a don imo
15:32 Nashmun: Hum yeah I actually like what's already there : dddkd ddkdd dkkkd
15:32 Tasha: thats cool too
15:32 Tasha: tho like i said you should try for consistency in patterning
15:33 Tasha: and you did use ddddk dd dd kkkkd before
15:33 Nashmun: Hum if I do this better remove 01:27:191 (151) - then
15:33 Tasha: so next logical buildup is ddddk ddddd (or ddkdd) kkkkd
15:33 Tasha: yeah, good idea..
15:33 Tasha: dat double tap on.
15:35 Tasha: 01:34:002 (186) - don on this, leave the rest of the quintuplets
15:35 Nashmun: I feel like 00:39:261 (36) - should be a don
15:35 Nashmun: So I'd rather do ddddk dd dd dkkkkd and then ddddk ddkdd dkkkd
15:36 Nashmun: Done
15:36 Tasha: works for me
15:36 Tasha: dkkkd and kkkkd are pretty similar in patterning anyways
15:40 Tasha: 01:32:536 (175,176,177,178,179) - one other thing about this, maybe it'd be better to delete 178 (the note between triplet) and move 176 to 01:32:881, that way you can just make a singles pattern leading into the quintuplets
15:40 Tasha: something like d k d
15:40 Tasha: http://puu.sh/6jTwn.jpg like that
15:41 Tasha: and as i mentioned kiai is amazing so no touchie on that
15:42 Nashmun: Hum, yes but I did put a triplet at 00:43:225 (24,25,26) -
15:42 Nashmun: It's like one time 1/2 one time 1/4 for the first verse and so on on the second one
15:43 Nashmun: Oh, my bad it's 01:32:536
15:43 Nashmun: Fixed
15:44 Tasha: considering the rest is build down for the lower difficulties
15:44 Tasha: just try and keep the same patterning in mind when adjusting other difficulties based around changes we made to the oni

15:44 Tasha: cause i actually have to go ;-;
15:44 Nashmun: 'Kay np, I'll do that
15:45 Nashmun: Thanks a lot for the mod
15:45 Tasha: no problem
15:45 Tasha: gonna savelog and post before i leave.

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-13T21:33:20+00:00

I updated every diff to fit the changes I did on the Oni. Thanks a lot for the mod and stars !

Evening

Joined December 2012

Evening 2014-01-16T12:17:32+00:00

From Zenx' Mod Queue o/

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to

Timing Check

Offset

No Problems

BPM

No Problems

Hit-Sound Check/Addition of Notes

Since you pitched mapped the intro :
00:18:916 (54,55,56,57) - k,k,k,d > d,d,d,k | This fits the pitch better, according to me, i may be wrong though I'm a bit bad at pitch listening
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00:36:502 (16,17) - Swap | The kat rhythm intro seems a bit too delayed since you used kat on a blue line, I suggest to move to the white line so that the kat rhythm feels more "stable"
00:42:019 (16,17) - ^
00:43:743 (28,38) - d,d > k,k | I think this kat rhythm flows better since the kats here are too less and using a kat on 39 seems delayed also

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Amazing usage of finishes, I really love it especially the perfect placing for dons and finishes

Kiai Time Check

I think it is better to have the 2nd kiai time end at 02:25:821 since the mood of the music makes a drastic change at that point, I can't really detect a lot of change at 02:24:787
- Change for all diff.s if you did this

General

Ranking Criteria Check

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AiMod

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Title Check

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[Muzu]

Since you pitched mapped the intro :
00:07:536 (17) - d > k | Pitch mapping : 18 is lower pitched than 17, therefore use a kat at 17
00:11:157 (26) - d > k | Pitch mapping : 26 is the same pitch as 25, therefore use the same sound ( kat )
00:18:916 (52) - k > d | Pitch mapping : 52 is lower pitched than 51, therefore use a kat at 52
00:28:571 (85,86,87,88,89) - d,d,d,d,d > k,k,k,k,k | Pitch mapping : 85,86,87 is higher pitched than 83 and 84 ; 88,89 is higher pitched than 90,91 and 92

00:45:640 (60) - d > D | Since you used big don on 65, I suggest to use one on 60 since it is the first don in the pattern that needs to be emphasized

01:12:536 (59,60) - Swap | There's a heavy bass on 60, I suggest to use don on that instead of a kat

Same comment as Oni, great use of dons and finishes, there might be some slight pitch mapping mistakes here and there though

[Futsuu]

No Problems here, nice o/

[Kantan]

01:47:363 (4) - I think this is supposed to be a big kat? According to my inspection of your mapping style

No other problems o/

Good luck! Nice map overall

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-19T13:21:33+00:00

From Zenx' Mod Queue o/

d = Don
k = Kat
D = Big Don
K = Big Kat
">" = Change to

Timing Check

Offset

No Problems

BPM

No Problems

[Oni]Hit-Sound Check/Addition of Notes

Since you pitched mapped the intro :
00:18:916 (54,55,56,57) - k,k,k,d > d,d,d,k | This fits the pitch better, according to me, i may be wrong though I'm a bit bad at pitch listening -- I don't think dons fits better o.o, not fixed
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00:36:502 (16,17) - Swap | The kat rhythm intro seems a bit too delayed since you used kat on a blue line, I suggest to move to the white line so that the kat rhythm feels more "stable" Hum, I tried it and it sounds good, but I don't want to overuse the ddkdd pattern here, when the dddkd sounds good too
00:42:019 (16,17) - ^ -- ^
00:43:743 (28,38) - d,d > k,k | I think this kat rhythm flows better since the kats here are too less and using a kat on 39 seems delayed also This part is built from 00:38:226 (27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,1) -so the basic patterns are the same.

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Amazing usage of finishes, I really love it especially the perfect placing for dons and finishes -- Thanks >w<

Kiai Time Check

I think it is better to have the 2nd kiai time end at 02:25:821 since the mood of the music makes a drastic change at that point, I can't really detect a lot of change at 02:24:787 -- Hum, I know what you mean but I'd rather keep the kiai like this atm.
- Change for all diff.s if you did this

General

Ranking Criteria Check

No Problems

AiMod

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Title Check

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[Muzu]

Since you pitched mapped the intro :
00:07:536 (17) - d > k | Pitch mapping : 18 is lower pitched than 17, therefore use a kat at 17 -- Fixed
00:11:157 (26) - d > k | Pitch mapping : 26 is the same pitch as 25, therefore use the same sound ( kat ) -- ^
00:18:916 (52) - k > d | Pitch mapping : 52 is lower pitched than 51, therefore use a kat at 52 -- I want to keep 00:18:571 (50,51,52,53,54,55,56) - as a mirror construction. No change
00:28:571 (85,86,87,88,89) - d,d,d,d,d > k,k,k,k,k | Pitch mapping : 85,86,87 is higher pitched than 83 and 84 ; 88,89 is higher pitched than 90,91 and 92 -- You're right but this is not pitch mapped, so I'd like to keep this construction.

00:45:640 (60) - d > D | Since you used big don on 65, I suggest to use one on 60 since it is the first don in the pattern that needs to be emphasized -- Fixed

01:12:536 (59,60) - Swap | There's a heavy bass on 60, I suggest to use don on that instead of a kat -- Yes, there is indeed a bass it. However, here I chose to follow the background music to make a transition between the two parts. No change

Same comment as Oni, great use of dons and finishes, there might be some slight pitch mapping mistakes here and there though

[Futsuu]

No Problems here, nice o/

[Kantan]

01:47:363 (4) - I think this is supposed to be a big kat? According to my inspection of your mapping style -- Fixed

No other problems o/

Good luck! Nice map overall

Thanks a lot for this mod, map updated !

Yuzeyun

Joined September 2010

Yuzeyun 2014-01-20T19:32:46+00:00

Suite et fin du mod. Mets un KD sur le mod de la muzukashii ou celui-ci (n'importe lequel tant que c'est un seul).

[Oni]
J'ai été surpris du nombre de big notes par rapport à la version que tu m'avais fait test, soit c'est moi ou il y en a bien plus.
00:07:536 (18,19,20) - Les trois notes sont l'inverse de 00:06:157 (14,15,16) - sur la mélodie, essaie de refléter cet aspect avec un kkd ?
00:18:571 (52,53,54) - Je pense que ddk passerait mieux, d'une dans la mélodie t'as une sorte de stagnation de pitch et dans les paroles chantées tu as la même chose. (Ca créera une symétrie sur 00:18:571 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - , autour de 55, par ailleurs.)
00:22:536 (65,66,67) - Je pense que ce triplet est inutile, il y a littéralement rien derrière tout ça. kkkd 1/2 peut néanmoins passer. Le crescendo se produit juste après, au passage.
00:23:398 - Ajoute un d ici ? Tu seras plus consistents car là où t'as d'habitude un trou de 1,5 battement, tu te mets à faire qu'un trou d'un battement suivi de notes en 1/2. (Comme 00:24:433 (73,74,75) - , 00:25:812 (80,81,82) - )
00:25:295 (76,77,78) - Je te conseille de retourner en 1/2, ça overmap un peu par ici.
00:29:778 (99) - k ? T'as une augmentation de la hauteur dans la mélodie non négligeable !
00:30:812 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109) - Des quatre patterns avec triolets, celui-là m'a semblé le plus bizarre.
00:32:536 (113) - d, si tu as appliqué la suggestion de 00:29:778 (99) - , histoire de donner une bonne inversion.
00:35:640 (10,11,12,13) - ddd k ? Dans la musique on est plus proche de 00:34:260 (2,3,4,5) - syntaxiquement (x-x--x dans les drumkicks) que de ddk d.
00:38:743 (32) - k, pour la même raison citée ci-dessus.
00:38:743 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,1) - Cette partie est juste bizarre à jouer, j'ai pas saisi sur quoi c'était mappé sincèrement.
00:41:157 (10,11,12,13) - ddd k, comme 00:35:640 (10,11,12,13) -. Tu peux aussi amener de la variété avec ddk k.
00:44:260 (33) - k pour la raison citée à 00:35:640 (10,11,12,13) -.
00:44:778 (38,39,40,41,42) - ddk D ? D'habitude je te vois pas faire dkkkD comme ça et ddk amène plus le k redtick que dkk.
00:45:640 (46) - D, si tu tiens à garder ton D...D comme à 00:46:502 (50,51,52) - , 00:47:881 (57,58,59) - ou encore 00:49:260 (64,65,66) - .
00:46:329 - Ajoute une note ici ? Le reste de ton pre-kiai se compose de patterns comme ça : http://puu.sh/6rW0U.png

Comme dit au début du mod de cette diff, les kiai sur l'Oni avec toutes ces big notes me font un peu peur, vu leur densité. Je suppose que tu ne comptes pas les retirer, donc on va faire sans.

01:12:536 (94,95) - kd à la place ? Tes d sont placés sur les drumkicks, et là tu changes soudainement à un k.
01:26:502 (148,149,150,151) - Ca m'a bien l'air différent et ça casse un peu ton rythme à cet instant, et ton pattern qui le suit fait un peu plus abrupt à jouer.
01:33:399 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193) - Très overmappé.
01:39:778 (215,216,217,218,219,220,221) - Ici je pense que ddkdkkd passe mieux, car ton k sur 01:39:950 (217) - me semble bien mieux amené avec ddk qu'avec dkk, et on en ressent plus que mieux le snare.
01:47:708 (14) - Pas un K comme ton pre-kiai précédent ? Le K passait mieux!

[Futsuu]
00:11:502 (25) - Cette note m'a surpris car elle est décalée par rapport à où on l'attendrait, c'est à dire à 00:11:674 - .
00:17:019 (38) - ^ (00:17:191 - )
00:22:536 (51) - Je pense pas qu'il y ait grand besoin de ce k ici, kkd 1/2 suffit largement !
00:28:571 (66,67,68) - Ces triolets ici sont bien plus douteux que sur les diffs les plus élevées.
01:09:950 (37) - d, pour suivre les drumkicks ?
01:18:226 (57) - ^
01:47:708 (5) - K? Dans le pre-kiai précédent t'avais mis K et ça passait bien mieux.

[Kantan]
C'est très le triolet de blanches, c'est juste bizarre à jouer à force owo

00:11:157 (18,19,20) - C'est normal que ces trois notes soient décalées ?
00:12:019 - 00:23:053 - Essaie de faire un rythme comme : 00:12:019 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - (http://puu.sh/6s0A6.png)
00:23:053 (39) - 00:34:088 (61) - Garde le squelette sur ^, tout en augmentant progressivement la densité de celui-ci. Evite de déborder en Futsuu, en revanche.
Les triolets en pré-chorus collent assez bien à la musique bien qu'un peu douteux (du fait que ça augmente beaucoup la densité de notes), je te conseille quand même (je sais que tu vas refuser mais ça vaut le coup) d'alterner entre triolet et trou, dans ce style. : http://puu.sh/6s0Xv.png
Le reste reste à peu près semblable, juste que la partie après le premier kiai a plein de downbeats (début de mesure) qui manquent, est-ce fait exprès ?

Le reste du mapset reste relativement solide, le seul hic sera les triolets sur les difficultés inférieures, sinon d'ici peu tu auras un mapset prêt à être bubbled!

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-20T20:42:38+00:00

Suite et fin du mod. Mets un KD sur le mod de la muzukashii ou celui-ci (n'importe lequel tant que c'est un seul).

[Oni]
J'ai été surpris du nombre de big notes par rapport à la version que tu m'avais fait test, soit c'est moi ou il y en a bien plus.
00:07:536 (18,19,20) - Les trois notes sont l'inverse de 00:06:157 (14,15,16) - sur la mélodie, essaie de refléter cet aspect avec un kkd ? --Vachement subjectif, Tasha m'a dit exactement l'inverse.
00:18:571 (52,53,54) - Je pense que ddk passerait mieux, d'une dans la mélodie t'as une sorte de stagnation de pitch et dans les paroles chantées tu as la même chose. (Ca créera une symétrie sur 00:18:571 (52,53,54,55,56,57,58) - , autour de 55, par ailleurs.) -- Cohérence avec l'intro, donc même pattern.
00:22:536 (65,66,67) - Je pense que ce triplet est inutile, il y a littéralement rien derrière tout ça. kkkd 1/2 peut néanmoins passer. Le crescendo se produit juste après, au passage. -- M'okay
00:23:398 - Ajoute un d ici ? Tu seras plus consistents car là où t'as d'habitude un trou de 1,5 battement, tu te mets à faire qu'un trou d'un battement suivi de notes en 1/2. (Comme 00:24:433 (73,74,75) - , 00:25:812 (80,81,82) - ) -- Pour moi le premier de la mesure dois pas avoir de beat ici justement.
00:25:295 (76,77,78) - Je te conseille de retourner en 1/2, ça overmap un peu par ici. -- Abuse pas non plus, c'pas de l'overmap. Fixed parceque meh.
00:29:778 (99) - k ? T'as une augmentation de la hauteur dans la mélodie non négligeable ! -- On doit pas entendre la même chose o.o . Et puis ça casse mon pattern
00:30:812 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109) - Des quatre patterns avec triolets, celui-là m'a semblé le plus bizarre. -- Voui il est bien moche, j'ai changé pour du ddk k k k k mais ce triolet de blanche en kat sonne moins bien même s'i lest important pour la structure générale, je verrais si je change pas tout en don plus tard
00:32:536 (113) - d, si tu as appliqué la suggestion de 00:29:778 (99) - , histoire de donner une bonne inversion. -- hihi, non.
00:35:640 (10,11,12,13) - ddd k ? Dans la musique on est plus proche de 00:34:260 (2,3,4,5) - syntaxiquement (x-x--x dans les drumkicks) que de ddk d. -- No no no pas possible un kat sur un bon gros coup de grosse caisse, tu veux me tuer D:
00:38:743 (32) - k, pour la même raison citée ci-dessus. ^
00:38:743 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,1) - Cette partie est juste bizarre à jouer, j'ai pas saisi sur quoi c'était mappé sincèrement. -- C'était une construction ooooo ooooo ooooo avant, qui se base sur la mélodie de background qui 'bave' pendant la transision et côté batterie faire l'équivalent d'un break qui annonce la prochaine mesure. ctrétréimportan mwa patouché 5tuplets içi non non. par contre le dd dd du milieu c'est Tasha qui me l'avais suggeré pour ensuite faire une évolution avec 00:43:743
00:41:157 (10,11,12,13) - ddd k, comme 00:35:640 (10,11,12,13) -. Tu peux aussi amener de la variété avec ddk k. -- Ménon cmosh
00:44:260 (33) - k pour la raison citée à 00:35:640 (10,11,12,13) -. -- ^
00:44:778 (38,39,40,41,42) - ddk D ? D'habitude je te vois pas faire dkkkD comme ça et ddk amène plus le k redtick que dkk. -- Voui voui, c'était mon grand dilemme de ma map. Je voulais pas le mettre, mais en même temps il est super important à mes yeux, mais je voulais pas casser ma construction en 5tuplets. Alors j'ai pleuré, beaucoup. Et puis je l'ai mis.
00:45:640 (46) - D, si tu tiens à garder ton D...D comme à 00:46:502 (50,51,52) - , 00:47:881 (57,58,59) - ou encore 00:49:260 (64,65,66) - . -- Fixed
00:46:329 - Ajoute une note ici ? Le reste de ton pre-kiai se compose de patterns comme ça : http://puu.sh/6rW0U.png ui ui, fixed

Comme dit au début du mod de cette diff, les kiai sur l'Oni avec toutes ces big notes me font un peu peur, vu leur densité. Je suppose que tu ne comptes pas les retirer, donc on va faire sans. Hihi, c'est ce qui fait le charme de la diff.

01:12:536 (94,95) - kd à la place ? Tes d sont placés sur les drumkicks, et là tu changes soudainement à un k. -- Bah, y a un kick sur le dernier temps qui fait penser à un coup de caisse claire, après réecoutte, je suis pas certain que ça en soit un mais y a quelquechose qui s'en rapproche. Ceci dit les deux notes d'avant sont clairement des d, conc je laisse.
01:26:502 (148,149,150,151) - Ca m'a bien l'air différent et ça casse un peu ton rythme à cet instant, et ton pattern qui le suit fait un peu plus abrupt à jouer.
01:33:399 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193) - Très overmappé. -- Hum, comment dire, nope.
01:39:778 (215,216,217,218,219,220,221) - Ici je pense que ddkdkkd passe mieux, car ton k sur 01:39:950 (217) - me semble bien mieux amené avec ddk qu'avec dkk, et on en ressent plus que mieux le snare. -- Fixed
01:47:708 (14) - Pas un K comme ton pre-kiai précédent ? Le K passait mieux! -- Bawi mais sur le précédent y avait pas un gros coup de grosse caisse.

[Futsuu]
00:11:502 (25) - Cette note m'a surpris car elle est décalée par rapport à où on l'attendrait, c'est à dire à 00:11:674 - . -- Euh oui, je me suis gouré, j'ai delete la mauvaise note, fixed
00:17:019 (38) - ^ (00:17:191 - ) -- ^
00:22:536 (51) - Je pense pas qu'il y ait grand besoin de ce k ici, kkd 1/2 suffit largement ! -- Fixed
00:28:571 (66,67,68) - Ces triolets ici sont bien plus douteux que sur les diffs les plus élevées.
01:09:950 (37) - d, pour suivre les drumkicks ? -- Voui, fixed
01:18:226 (57) - ^ -- ^
01:47:708 (5) - K? Dans le pre-kiai précédent t'avais mis K et ça passait bien mieux. -- cf. Muzu

[Kantan]
C'est très le triolet de blanches, c'est juste bizarre à jouer à force owo

00:11:157 (18,19,20) - C'est normal que ces trois notes soient décalées ? -- Euh, j'ai des changements en local sur l'intro, je pense que ça a été changé
00:12:019 - 00:23:053 - Essaie de faire un rythme comme : 00:12:019 (20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29) - (http://puu.sh/6s0A6.png) -- Pareil, j'avais déjà changé un truc ici D:
00:23:053 (39) - 00:34:088 (61) - Garde le squelette sur ^, tout en augmentant progressivement la densité de celui-ci. Evite de déborder en Futsuu, en revanche. -- Enfait ma construction jusque 00:34:088 (61) -
Les triolets en pré-chorus collent assez bien à la musique bien qu'un peu douteux (du fait que ça augmente beaucoup la densité de notes), je te conseille quand même (je sais que tu vas refuser mais ça vaut le coup) d'alterner entre triolet et trou, dans ce style. : http://puu.sh/6s0Xv.png -- SURPRISE !!!!!!!

Le reste reste à peu près semblable, juste que la partie après le premier kiai a plein de downbeats (début de mesure) qui manquent, est-ce fait exprès ? -- Euh non, j'ai totalement merdé la part après le premier refrain, c'est tout xD (J'ai fix)

Le reste du mapset reste relativement solide, le seul hic sera les triolets sur les difficultés inférieures, sinon d'ici peu tu auras un mapset prêt à être bubbled!

Merci bien Gezo pour ce mod

kd bien mérité

mingmichael

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2014-01-27T11:00:40+00:00

mod comes as your friend request to me :3

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

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Kantan]

☞ HP change to be 3 or 4. basically 5 is used for muzu oni or oni+

Notes Structure

☞ consider with 1/4 notes on Kantan diff. for the examples are like 00:36:847 (63,64,65) - ; 00:42:364 (73,74,75) - ; 00:46:502 (80,81,82) - ; etc. it's not as easy as expected to hit those notes for the kantan players who will play your map. for the kantan diffs are better use 1/2 notes and some 1/4 notes that easy to hit and readable too

☞ nothing much to say. nice kantan~!

• delete 00:37:105 - and similar patterns that have 1/4 notes like this. well for the explanation you can see at the Notes Structure box above. i deleted this to avoid the 1/4 note that suddenly comes at here. and then why don't you use a same pattern like 00:33:743 (56,57,58,59,60,61) - too on 00:36:502 (62,63,64,65) - ? it's much better too for the patterns

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Futsuu]

☞ change HP to be 4 if you change kantan's HP to be 3. if you change to be 4, just keep futsuu's HP with 5

Notes Structure

☞ well done~!

• delete 00:33:571 - and 00:33:916 - . well i know you used those notes to follow the vocals and it's nice~ but, consider again there for the futsuu player who will be confused suddenly when meet that notes. why? you can look at the previous notes before it at 00:28:226 - until 00:33:226 - that have three 1/4 notes like 00:28:571 (65,66,67) - . but after the last 1/4 notes at 00:33:226 - , you used four 1/2 notes at 00:33:571 (80,81,82,83) - . of course the futsuu player will be quite confused because of it. consider it again to delete 00:33:571 - and 00:33:916 - then

• add don at 00:34:260 - if you use my previous mod. i added this to follow the patterns there like 00:35:123 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91) - so it'll keep the consistency

• delete 01:28:743 - and 01:29:088 - like the first mod. but the reason is different at here. i deleted them to make 3/4 break like at 01:27:019 (82,83) - 01:25:640 (77,78) - at 01:28:398 - and 01:28:916 - , and it'll make a better patterns too as well. btw add don at 01:29:433 - if you use this mod

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[

Muzukashii]

☞ okayyy~

Notes Structure

☞ okay~

• change 01:06:502 - to be don and change 01:06:847 - . i saw that basically you follow the kick sounds on the kiai, for the examples are like 00:57:191 - ; 00:58:571 - ; 00:59:950 - ; 01:01:329 - ; etc. but you missed one kick sound at 01:06:847 - and it's really unfortunate that you used don at there. why don't you follow the kick sound at there too?

• change 02:03:408 - to be kat. the reason is same like the first mod. and then this kat will follow the vocals and make a good patterns too~! so basically the pattern will be o o o o o o o if you use my mod

• change 02:14:614 - to be big kat. this kat will emphasize the big don at 02:14:787 - much better than you used big don too

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[

Oni]

☞ no problem here~

Notes Structure

☞ kay~! you used all finishers wisely!! nice job~

• delete 00:11:502 - . that additional note doesn't follow any sounds at there, and it sounds weird that suddenly appear at there. just use a same notes like 00:08:916 (22,23,24) - at 00:11:674 (30,31,32) - without 00:11:502 -

• at 00:36:329 (14,15,16,17,18) - . how about use ooooo? much better to follow the vocals too at there than you used ooooo

• same like above 00:41:847 (14,15,16,17,18) - ^

• change 01:47:708 - to be big kat to make it consistent like 00:52:536 - (they have a same part of the song and same pitch sounds too. why don't you used same patterns or notes too?)

• change 02:14:614 - to big kat, to emphasize the big don at 02:14:787 - (a different note will make a good emphasize too)

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okay that's all from me~
well done, nothing much to say

goodluck~!

Nashmun

Joined November 2008

Topic Starter

Nashmun 2014-01-27T18:45:23+00:00

mingmichael wrote:
mod comes as your friend request to me :3

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

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[ Kantan]

General
☞ HP change to be 3 or 4. basically 5 is used for muzu oni or oni+ -- Changed to 4

Notes Structure
☞ consider with 1/4 notes on Kantan diff. for the examples are like 00:36:847 (63,64,65) - ; 00:42:364 (73,74,75) - ; 00:46:502 (80,81,82) - ; etc. it's not as easy as expected to hit those notes for the kantan players who will play your map. for the kantan diffs are better use 1/2 notes and some 1/4 notes that easy to hit and readable too -- Actually the pattern you pointed out have more gaps between notes than 1/2, so it's easier.

☞ nothing much to say. nice kantan~!

Notes
• delete 00:37:105 - and similar patterns that have 1/4 notes like this. well for the explanation you can see at the Notes Structure box above. i deleted this to avoid the 1/4 note that suddenly comes at here. and then why don't you use a same pattern like 00:33:743 (56,57,58,59,60,61) - too on 00:36:502 (62,63,64,65) - ? it's much better too for the patterns -- Nope, I like my half notes triplets. Yes it's hard for a kantan player but still doable and adds more fun for them

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[ Futsuu]

General
☞ change HP to be 4 if you change kantan's HP to be 3. if you change to be 4, just keep futsuu's HP with 5

Notes Structure
☞ well done~!

Notes
• delete 00:33:571 - and 00:33:916 - . well i know you used those notes to follow the vocals and it's nice~ but, consider again there for the futsuu player who will be confused suddenly when meet that notes. why? you can look at the previous notes before it at 00:28:226 - until 00:33:226 - that have three 1/4 notes like 00:28:571 (65,66,67) - . but after the last 1/4 notes at 00:33:226 - , you used four 1/2 notes at 00:33:571 (80,81,82,83) - . of course the futsuu player will be quite confused because of it. consider it again to delete 00:33:571 - and 00:33:916 - then

• add don at 00:34:260 - if you use my previous mod. i added this to follow the patterns there like 00:35:123 (84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91) - so it'll keep the consistency Hum, this is a good point, I tried something with your two suggestion and it sounded nice but I kinda miss the actual pattern. I'll keep it like this for now but I might change my mind

• delete 01:28:743 - and 01:29:088 - like the first mod. but the reason is different at here. i deleted them to make 3/4 break like at 01:27:019 (82,83) - 01:25:640 (77,78) - at 01:28:398 - and 01:28:916 - , and it'll make a better patterns too as well. btw add don at 01:29:433 - if you use this mod Same answer, I might change it

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[ Muzukashii]

General
☞ okayyy~

Notes Structure
☞ okay~

Notes
• change 01:06:502 - to be don and change 01:06:847 - . i saw that basically you follow the kick sounds on the kiai, for the examples are like 00:57:191 - ; 00:58:571 - ; 00:59:950 - ; 01:01:329 - ; etc. but you missed one kick sound at 01:06:847 - and it's really unfortunate that you used don at there. why don't you follow the kick sound at there too? -- You're right, fixed

• change 02:03:408 - to be kat. the reason is same like the first mod. and then this kat will follow the vocals and make a good patterns too~! so basically the pattern will be o o o o o o o if you use my mod -- Fixed

• change 02:14:614 - to be big kat. this kat will emphasize the big don at 02:14:787 - much better than you used big don too KDD seems fine

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[ Oni]

General
☞ no problem here~

Notes Structure
☞ kay~! you used all finishers wisely!! nice job~

Notes
• delete 00:11:502 - . that additional note doesn't follow any sounds at there, and it sounds weird that suddenly appear at there. just use a same notes like 00:08:916 (22,23,24) - at 00:11:674 (30,31,32) - without 00:11:502 - Nope, this is important to mark the end of the intro and the beginning ofg the first verse, see previous mods

• at 00:36:329 (14,15,16,17,18) - . how about use ooooo? much better to follow the vocals too at there than you used ooooo kkddk is no, but I changed it to ddkkd

• same like above 00:41:847 (14,15,16,17,18) - ^ ^

• change 01:47:708 - to be big kat to make it consistent like 00:52:536 - (they have a same part of the song and same pitch sounds too. why don't you used same patterns or notes too?) Hum nope, here I put a big don because of the drum bass hit

• change 02:14:614 - to big kat, to emphasize the big don at 02:14:787 - (a different note will make a good emphasize too) Hum, I prefer with a big don here :<

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okay that's all from me~
well done, nothing much to say
goodluck~!

Thanks for the mod, I'm still considering to implement one of your suggestion I didn't change yet.

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