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Lite Show Magic - TRICKL4SH 220 [Taiko]

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Lumenite-

Noffy wrote:

well, yes they had concerns
and then the map changed because of them, improving it.
as a result of their experienced feedback.
(which chromoxxx has yet to substantially offer in a format that can actually improve the map despite his complaints? soon tm?)
😥
watching this thread is a trip
i believe that’s how modding works lmao xD it’s like they think i ignored them both and the map didn’t change at all, when the SR dropped .4* lol
Monstrata
It's a bit of a leap to say that a map is now "good" because of two people's mods where they said the map needed work. Also was it really improved when 90% of fruko's mod was denied, and we have no idea if anything from Nofool's irc was implemented? But anyways, this is besides the point. I'm only poking my head in because Stefan's comments are absurd. You really shouldn't use Nofool and fruko as an excuse to nominate this set, especially if they presented negative opinions that seemed largely denied. What's more ludicrous though, is that you now say that as long as those two modders "checked" the map it would be okay with you?

The point of contacting Nofool and fruko was so that you could get additional opinions on the set, no? Then shouldn't you care about those opinions? If all you cared was that it was "checked" regardless of whether the comments were positive or negative, then you're doing something wrong.

BN Rules wrote:

Do not nominate a beatmap if you are unsure of something. In such cases, ask fellow nominators for assistance before making any rushed decisions. This includes unfamiliar game modes, suspiciously gray area/unrankable issues, quality issues or complex timing.


Also, still no kd for fruko's mod post?

@Taikocracy - SR change has nothing to do with how much was changed. I can nerf one object and have SR change that much. That doesn't mean the map is now radically different, nor does reducing the SR mean the issues presented were addressed.
Topic Starter
Lumenite-
okay, let’s talk objects then, 50-75 objects where removed from the map since the veto.

i’m truly sorry that y’all don’t like the map, feel free to rate it 1* if it gets qualified, but i do feel you’re only here because you decided the best way to address this problem is to make a diss map of it featuring all the people that don’t like my map...

there’s nothing wrong with the map in essence further than personal opinion, an opinion in which was not backed up the first time...

yes i edited this bc i felt what i said before was rude
Stefan
Instead of trashing the thread and questioning my posts you could bother to look yourself over the beatmap. Else, just stay out.
Monstrata
Stefan, we aren't trashing you, apologies if it seems that way. It's necessary to question your posts, especially since we've brought forth valid arguments and observations. I don't think the nomination process here was well handled at all, and I hope you can at least admit that and apply it to future nomination processes.

But yes, good point about looking over the beatmap yourself. I think i'll do that.
Okoratu
stop flamebaiting you who enjoy living inside the twilight of social acceptability

using people's stances from before the map was changed as a reason to question motives is just as moot a point as using them to nominate the thing

and now either talk about the goddamn map or stay out
Monstrata
Okay, go discussing metadata with neonat, we think the metadata for the artist field is incorrect. It should just be:

Artist: Lite Show Magic

I couldn't find any official sources that included (t+pazolite vs C-Show).

References (as posted on the metadata server)
+ http://c-h-s.me/chsep-0003/
+ https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/sdvx/iv/p/ ... ?list_id=1



I believe neonat also possesses the actual CD that includes this track.


Also, please add "tricklash" to tags, makes it a lot easier to search for the song.
Topic Starter
Lumenite-

Monstrata wrote:

Okay, go discussing metadata with neonat, we think the metadata for the artist field is incorrect. It should just be:

Artist: Lite Show Magic

I couldn't find any official sources that included (t+pazolite vs C-Show).

References (as posted on the metadata server)
+ http://c-h-s.me/chsep-0003/
+ https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/sdvx/iv/p/ ... ?list_id=1



I believe neonat also possesses the actual CD that includes this track.


Also, please add "tricklash" to tags, makes it a lot easier to search for the song.
i've already changed this, i'm just withholding the update until the bn who plans to qualify this arrives
Monstrata
Okay, then please get it rebubbled. Metadata changes require rebubble sorry
Monstrata
Thanks. Stefan can now rebubble. Idk if I'll mod Ayyri's Oni so just operate as if ur not expecting a mod.
Stefan
Well.
tatatat
tricklash in tags will be nice.
Surono
herro that late wake up yeh

tatatat wrote:

tricklash in tags will be nice.
>Outer Oni
* 00:01:889 - -> 00:08:162 - I think its better to move at there since theres the fit emphasis on burst than the 00:01:685 - current first ddkdk that somehow it feels like rip emphasiz, ghost notes zz
* 00:26:912 - felt ripemphasizd if 7plet stuctures, just 00:27:253 - delete it and 00:27:321 - change it as d. I would fine this 7plet be kept if smth intensity e.g 00:18:730 - 00:23:094 - or 00:14:775 - this drumstream
* 00:32:912 - I would point out smth inconsistency? yeh maybe I think.. from here it seems yeh monotones pitch, so you should make it consistent 00:33:457 - kdkdkkddk from here, just like 00:32:912 - yeah kdkdkkddk
* 00:48:185 - 00:48:457 - 00:48:594 - 00:48:866 - 00:49:003 - similar sound but 00:49:275 - rip this, ctrl g it 00:49:275 - ~ 00:49:139 -
* outer LV doff please, 00:52:821 - at least o n l y add here so yeh the empty/dull fel can be avoid, for similar parts too
* 00:55:275 - d so more flows
* 00:57:457 - change from here like b4 ddkdk d k---- or at least just swap 00:57:866 - ~ 00:58:003 -
* 00:58:821 - k, kkk moar intensifizz for sounds around here
* 01:04:003 - h e l o vucal mappin and some own style sounds such 01:04:275 - dun tak dun *jst comment ye*
* 01:18:730 - like before about consisteny colors for dem repeatin sample voic editor music zzzz, but in here 01:19:275 - variation as kkkdkkddk ( yeah kat 01:19:344 - it as intens emphasis if copypaste previous pattern lo) would be good to emphasis da intensis of the stream drum goes high
* 01:26:912 - d so it wouldnt be overc00k and for variaton thingy
* 01:29:298 - i felt da intensity, pls k . dkk gg
* 01:32:094 - dont forget
* 01:34:003 - LMAO DRAGONFORCE
* ok im fine withat that dgf emphasis structurs pattern, but colorin zzz why really like metal map.. its r h y th mical song
nazi suggestion: 1st http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9508211 ~ 2nd https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9508214 more rhythm feel pls
* 01:38:366 - sem
* 01:40:821 - did you just cat this? dem holy zzz, rip previous same part =_=
* 01:41:912 - pitch changes somehow like high low high, so ye kkkkddddkkk, 01:42:457 - current ddk from here donutplant zzzz
smth smth yeh like personal thingy but i hop yeh its for de gud of this diff.. expectin hng

>Ura Oni
* 00:21:048 - dk dk d d K gg feel at bold color
* 00:46:139 - I love this pattern haha generic hermanli pattern, but zzzz really on your diff.. 00:46:616 - really i want u del it at least or 00:46:344 - yeh
* 00:50:980 - yeah here del, so above u want consisteny at structures. u can del that 46:616
* 01:18:116 - del, feels overc00k
* 01:34:616 - 01:38:980 - 01:39:389 - delete please hell oni... not ura
and consider other similar parts at kiais, about 11plet stream... :sweats:
Topic Starter
Lumenite-

Surono wrote:

herro that late wake up yeh

tatatat wrote:

tricklash in tags will be nice.
>Outer Oni
* 00:01:889 - -> 00:08:162 - I think its better to move at there since theres the fit emphasis on burst than the 00:01:685 - current first ddkdk that somehow it feels like rip emphasiz, ghost notes zz
* 00:26:912 - felt ripemphasizd if 7plet stuctures, just 00:27:253 - delete it and 00:27:321 - change it as d. I would fine this 7plet be kept if smth intensity e.g 00:18:730 - 00:23:094 - or 00:14:775 - this drumstream
* 00:32:912 - I would point out smth inconsistency? yeh maybe I think.. from here it seems yeh monotones pitch, so you should make it consistent 00:33:457 - kdkdkkddk from here, just like 00:32:912 - yeah kdkdkkddk
* 00:48:185 - 00:48:457 - 00:48:594 - 00:48:866 - 00:49:003 - similar sound but 00:49:275 - rip this, ctrl g it 00:49:275 - ~ 00:49:139 -
* outer LV doff please, 00:52:821 - at least o n l y add here so yeh the empty/dull fel can be avoid, for similar parts too
* 00:55:275 - d so more flows
* 00:57:457 - change from here like b4 ddkdk d k---- or at least just swap 00:57:866 - ~ 00:58:003 -
* 00:58:821 - k, kkk moar intensifizz for sounds around here
* 01:04:003 - h e l o vucal mappin and some own style sounds such 01:04:275 - dun tak dun *jst comment ye*
* 01:18:730 - like before about consisteny colors for dem repeatin sample voic editor music zzzz, but in here 01:19:275 - variation as kkkdkkddk ( yeah kat 01:19:344 - it as intens emphasis if copypaste previous pattern lo) would be good to emphasis da intensis of the stream drum goes high
* 01:26:912 - d so it wouldnt be overc00k and for variaton thingy
* 01:29:298 - i felt da intensity, pls k . dkk gg
* 01:32:094 - dont forget
* 01:34:003 - LMAO DRAGONFORCE
* ok im fine withat that dgf emphasis structurs pattern, but colorin zzz why really like metal map.. its r h y th mical song
nazi suggestion: 1st http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9508211 ~ 2nd https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9508214 more rhythm feel pls
* 01:38:366 - sem
* 01:40:821 - did you just cat this? dem holy zzz, rip previous same part =_=
* 01:41:912 - pitch changes somehow like high low high, so ye kkkkddddkkk, 01:42:457 - current ddk from here donutplant zzzz
smth smth yeh like personal thingy but i hop yeh its for de gud of this diff.. expectin hng

>Ura Oni
* 00:21:048 - dk dk d d K gg feel at bold color
* 00:46:139 - I love this pattern haha generic hermanli pattern, but zzzz really on your diff.. 00:46:616 - really i want u del it at least or 00:46:344 - yeh
* 00:50:980 - yeah here del, so above u want consisteny at structures. u can del that 46:616
* 01:18:116 - del, feels overc00k
* 01:34:616 - 01:38:980 - 01:39:389 - delete please hell oni... not ura
and consider other similar parts at kiais, about 11plet stream... :sweats:
all changed^^
Outer Oni from Ayyri:
1) Moved.
2) Deleted and changed the colour as suggested.
3) Had to change this stream before due to people complaining about the patterns being too consistent. It was originally how you suggested, which sounds a lot better imo, due to the vocal being held on the tick whites. zz
4) Same thing as the above, I'm happy someone else agrees with what I used to have. lol
5) Ya, I know there's a kick here, I used to have it as k D, but a couple people told me it plays a bit weirdly with the svs, so I don't know if having that there is really the best thing to do..
6) Changed the note colour.
7) Made the pattern consistent with the previous one.
8) Used ddk instead, because kkk kinda takes away from the high bell at 00:58:821 - .
9) Changed to k.
10) Same point here as before.
11) I no overc00k. I change d.
12) Same point as before.
13) Changed the stream a bit, somewhat with your suggestions, and somewhat with my own.
14) Same changes for the first stream were applied here too.
15) Changed to kkkkddddkkd to emphasize how the first two held notes are the longest, while the last is shorter / fading.
Surono
Outer
00:58:685 - dem ddk u did, k as 00:49:957 - to avoid repetitiv/some ddk for non rhythm zzzzzz
01:38:025 - k as 01:29:298 -
01:18:730 - so ye consistency u wanted, 01:18:798 - 01:19:344 - kat these for intensity de drum burst flows pls

all cats. first and second are important to be fixed imo, third just an optional to make it gg

then rebub gogo
Topic Starter
Lumenite-
From Ayyri again:

1) Changed.
2) Don't really want to use dkk because of how the bell on the last note of the triple is the highest sound. (Also would be inconsistent with the other times, where I used kdk.)
3) Making it kkk would be inconsistent though, having it as kdk works better for consistency.
Surono
ZigiForce - Suronous of Our Tatataimu (Dezu)

I dont think the 3rd point would b break the concept of consistency, yeah i felt (guess?!?!?) the previous and which Ive pointd out are hs difference.. yeh just on vocal and then vocal+burst, it could be as variation tho. but Whatever, Floats Your Boat Feels Your Beat

Good luck guys, rebub
Pachiru
me looking at taiko drama



congratz taikocracyy on bubble, and on future qualify :)
Stefan
Yes
Backfire
Congrats
Aurele
fuck yes
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