Lanturn wrote:

Heya from my queue. I'll be honest. I would never picture this as a battle theme imo. It's a bit too happy for my JRPG battle music tastes lol. Yeah I found it really interesting too but it does fit the tone of the fight, can't say fairer than that

[General]
01:51:607 - Kiai would be better cut off here. After this point, the song just doesn't have as much epic feel, and is mostly just carrying off of the earlier parts. Yeah I suppose so

00:03:438 - Your timing should start here. Add a uninherited (red) timing point to this spot. Note that you'll probably have unsnapped notes when you do this. For more information, I suggest reading this wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacrusis Oh I should have realized that was an anacrusis. Thanks
[Easy]

1. 00:11:466 (2,3,4,1) - (2,3) is a perfect place for symmetry with (1). Please do so here. Start by placing (2) at x488, y192, and then put (3) as a vertical flip of (1). Make sure to adjust (4,1) as needed. I don't understand why I didn't do this. Maybe something to do with sliders pointing at notes
2. 00:30:058 (5) - For better effect, why not remove this circle? It gets boring clicking the same old 1/1 gaps over, and over, so a few 2/1 gaps here and there adds some nice variety. Also this note here isn't very powerful at all and it gives more impact when you click the one after. Good idea
3. 00:49:072 (3,4,5) - For more impact, why not swap these so the crazy trumpets or whatever they are get the circles to click instead of a slider. Yes.
4. The whole kiai section. I'll be brutally honest here. It's rhythm is boring. There isn't a single 2/1, 3/2, or above, and there isn't any 2/1 gaps either. The whole thing is just 1/1s, over and over. Here is a few examples you can bring some variety into it.
5. 01:25:198 - 01:27:945 (1) - 01:38:086 (1) - and such. At the beginning of most measures, you could easily adapt any of these into a 3/2 slider and it will flow perfectly into the strong vocal and instrumental point at places such as 01:25:198 - This applies to most of the kiai. If you do this every 2nd or 4th one maybe, it'll be enough variety to make the kiai more interesting to play. Interesting that you mention this, I DID have some here originally actually but I thought something like "longer sliders in a kiai is less intense and weird" and opted for the 1/1 spam that currently exists. If I'm brutally honest, I loathe Easy difficulties with a passion, never having played them when I started osu!since they didn't seem to follow the song in satisfactory ways, and I hate mapping Easies since more often than not they turn out to be spinhacker fodder :c Nevertheless since my Normal is a bit complex I'm obliged to make an Easy and might as well make it interesting to some degree.
6. 01:37:663 - since you cut off the kiai here, I like to think of this as more of a rest or preparation point for the upcoming kiai. Consider deleting (4) and using a repeat on (3) . This will let the player rest a little before heading off to the last kiai. Sure why not
7. 01:52:029 (2,3) - For these ones (01:55:410 (2,3) - etc), maybe convert one or two of them to a 2/1 slider starting at (2). The (3)'s head isn't a very powerful note, so it could easily be skipped over if wanted. Changed some of them
8. 02:03:860 (5,6) - The (6) doesn't really hit anything. infact, one could argue it hits nothing at all making it borderline unrankable. How about using a 3/2 reverse here starting where the (5) is? You'll hit the key notes (the reverse part will be more important than 02:03:860 - as well btw) on the reverse and the end this way I hear a little stream here and there's definitely something on the end of 6, your suggestion leaves a 1/2 gap between 6 and 1 which is something I'd like to avoid at all costs. I do hear some drums in 6 so I'm not sure why you say it's not mapped to anything but maybe the start of 6 isn't emphasized very well..

[Normal]
Eh I actually like what you did with most of this diff. I liked how for the most part, you followed the song itself here instead of using a boring rhythm. Sadly for a few parts, you kinda overmap and it felt like a chore to play instead of having said fun when I knew there was going to be an exciting note to hit. When I mapped Hard the first thing I thought was "the Normal will need to not be a metronome clicker" so I did my best to follow the song as I heard it without 1/4 or any of that. Pleased to hear that it kind of worked

1. 00:13:156 (3) - one of the interesting parts here is how you hold the sliders to the piano's held notes. When you get to this note however, the piano doesn't use a held note here (it drowns out a lot faster than the other ones). Because of this, I highly recommend just using a single circle here. Fair enough
2. 00:23:508 (3) - So when I get to this part, the only thing I care about is the main melody which you've been following perfectly at this point. Then this circle shows up. I understand its to build up with the background instrumentals, but for anyone who is playing this, they'll probably have the same mindset as me and only care about following the main instruments. I recommend deleting this circle for this reason. Okay, if you say so
3. 00:32:170 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - This chain of 1/2 is quite a bit for a normal. 00:30:480 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Maybe swap these like you did with 00:44:001 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - This will give a gap at 00:33:649 - at least. Sure, makes sense
4. 01:04:072 (3) - This is pretty much the same thing as 23 seconds here, and for the very same reasons. I basically want to play notes I want to hit, not forced to hit. Yes, changed
5. 01:21:184 (1) - how to win at symmetry: Spam control H on it and line up all the nodes but the middle red one. After that, move the red one to the middle with grid snap, and find the spot between where it shrinks down 1/4 and it's original 2/1. Next hold shift, and make it even more precise by moving it ever so slightly up/down until you find that sweet point where it shrinks down 1/4. You should have a perfectly symmetrical slider now! for now, try placing the first node on x136, y356 and the second node at x196, y384. Move the last two as needed (control+h helps here) and then find the sweet spot for the middle node. It's located at x256, y334 if you can't find it. Make sure to copy paste this to 01:22:874 (3) - as well. I tried my level best to get this to work but the slider would not work with the mid point where you suggested would be perfect, it made the right side too long and left me frankly a bit bewildered. I tried to keep it as symmetrical as possible. Thanks for the tip though, I'll practice and see if I can't get it right
6. Note that your whole kiai is at a difficult point known as advanced. It's too hard for Normal and the whole reason for this is simply because you only have 1/2 gaps here. This whole section needs some 1/1 breaks. 01:27:734 (3) - 01:31:114 (5) - 01:34:494 (5) - are some prime examples of candidates that could be removed and not have any impact on the rhythm in whole. Notice how you don't hitsound these either. It just means they aren't important at all. Removed some of these
7. 01:52:241 (2) - 01:55:621 (2) - 01:59:001 (2) - and so on. Try throwing a drum normal hitsound here. It at least gives it some meaningful impact with the vocals and doesn't really stick out. Added some claps here
8. 01:58:367 (1) - I think you're missing a drum finish here. Indeed I am
9. 02:04:283 (4) - Should honestly start 1/2 later at 02:04:494 - for the instruments. Maybe make it a 1/2 reverse or a circle plus 1/2 slider? Sure why not
10. 02:08:297 (3) - Break these up? (convert the head and tail to a circle) I'd rather click both of them instead of holding here since none of the instruments playing hold to this point. Was thinking about this when I made the pattern to be honest

[Hard]
This map feels a bit too dense imo. It could stand to lose some triplets here and there, and maybe not so many 3/4 sliders. I mention some of these below. This is exactly what I was worried about when I mapped this diff and I didn't see how I could remove some triples without creating inconsistencies but I think like you said I see some opportunity for removing 3/4 sliders to make it hopefully less dense

1. 00:03:438 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - I think you should build up to this better from the start. You go from two calm notes into a crazy cluster of notes in no time at all. I really think you should map the start of this like you do Easy/Normal (maybe swap Easy/Normal with Hard/Savage for this reason?) so it feels a bit more natural when the dense part jumps in. Sure why not
2. 00:47:593 (2) - unrankable. it goes off the screen. It has to be lowered. Ugh.
3. 01:21:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This rhythm doesn't make any sense. The triples occur at 01:21:501 - and not 01:21:290 - and such. Did something else here
4. 01:24:565 (1,2) - So the (2) doesn't really hit anything strong at this point, if anything at all tbh. 01:24:987 - is a lot stronger, and should be prioritized here. Check the GDs, they do this correctly.
5. 01:36:396 (1) - what is this 3/4 following? The stronger note appears back at 01:36:607 - in every way possible. Same thing with 01:49:917 (1) -
6. 01:38:403 (2) - Same as 1:24:565 - with this 1/4 note.
7. 02:04:283 (5) - There isn't much point to this note. The 1/1 spacing makes it play a lot better.

Changed everything above as well as a bunch of other things in the Hard to have some more gaps between notes which should hopefully tone down the density a bit

I spent a bit too much time on these diffs so I'll cut it here. Hope this helps the lower half of your diffs at least. Thanks very much for the mod it was incredibly helpful! The Hard is perhaps still a bit too dense for most people's liking but I think it should follow a similar rhythm to the Insanes while still being playable for the intended audience. Maybe it's still a bit much but all the horrible 1/2 into 1/4 sliders are gone so that should help finger control. Hopefully the lower diffs are a bit cleaner now, thanks once again for the in depth explanations and little tips

Raphalge wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]
00:08:086 (4,5,1) - Consider making this triangle more like the one that comes right after it Sure.
00:11:043 (4,5) - Weird how you mapped 00:12:945 (8) - this but not the note between these, imo Already discussed this on slack Discord, the 4,5 are more for the trumpet but the 8,9 are for the other.. instrument, whatever it is, so I don't really see a problem there? Besides, the 8,9 appear here 00:14:635 (8,9) - too.
00:17:381 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - see how this forms like a zigzag but then 8 ruins the pattern? Recommend changing it so that it's similar to laon's name (a series of w's) Fixed.
00:19:917 (5) - held sound but nothing between this and next note? Recommend slider or a note at 20:128 for the held sound there up to you Oh. Good point, went with a triple, as well as a triple a little bit later on to sort of make it more consistent with the change.
00:25:198 (5) - Consistency between pauses is good yes but here the bakground trumpets have an intense moment starting at 00:23:719 (1) - so leaving gaps kinda undermines that intensity. Recommend mapping a note here, same at 01:05:762 (5,6) - Also a good point, fixed.
00:41:466 (3,4,5,6) - If these made some sort of shape it would look nice in my opinion.... maybe some sort of rectangle or something. Also the spacing drop from 4 to 5 feels a bit strange and unnecessary I really like how that pattern plays so making it a shape would probably ruin that and I don't mind that it looks kinda bad asthetically, when it comes to the spacing between 4 and 5 I feel like the pairs of 3,4 and 5,6 are more intense than when going from 4,5 so I feel like it's fine as is.
(minor) 00:52:029 (5,6) - blanket things Fixed.
00:55:410 (9) - This should follow the flow from 7 to 8 and point more upwards imo, it's a weird movement to go from 7 to 8 and then 8 to 9 to follow the sliderpath which is almost perpendicular to the expected flow Fixed.
01:14:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - looks untidy without neat symmetry imo :c Make it so! Like 01:19:494 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Fair enough, it does look a bit messy I guess lol
01:16:325 (2,3) - again spacing drop. try to arrange these to make nicer looking shapes or patterns, it makes the map look more polished Same as last time, I think the space drop is fitting and I think the pattern looks pretty nice as is. I did slightly increase the spacing between 2,3 though. But not by too much.
01:29:212 (10) - long slider in kiai feels underwhelming, consider mapping to lyircs here for a tiny bit Fixed.
01:42:522 (8,9,10) - considering ctrl+g ing the slider and stacking the triple on top of what is currently the sliderend. Btter flow imo! Fixed.
01:46:114 (10) - Feels VERY underwhelming to have massive sliders here imo. Doing something with 1/2 here might be better imo Fixed.
01:50:762 (3,4,5,6,7) - The noise to which this is mapped continues for a while, maybe another two notes? Although the stream is more mapping to the drums and the drums end at 7 I don't see the harm in making the stream longer.
01:53:508 (2,4,6) - The visual spacing between these is unsightly at BEST. HEAVILY recommend moving 6 down further along with 5 to look a bit better Fixed.
01:56:255 (4,1) - Pause feels strange, recommend slider or note to cover the sudden gap. This pause doesn't have the same emphasis as 01:54:987 (1,2) - is why i ask Fixed.
02:07:241 (2) - Random slider? Full notes like 02:05:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - except for the triple is recommended personally, much better feel in an Insane Fixed.
02:09:987 (6) - What Simon would say. Don't see a problem, if you have a suggestion for what it would look like, fine by me, I'm leaving it as is though lol

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]
00:10:198 (1) - finish? Sure
00:22:135 (9) - hmm can't see the reason for this one, just want a triple here? I don't think it's a nice idea. 00:22:029 (8) you may remove this too so you can make it same with the previous patterns. Hmm, well it was sort of there for consistency but I guess it doesn't really make sense for a triple there, so fixed.
00:27:100 (7) - NC Fixed
00:52:452 (6) - NC ^
00:59:424 (6) - NC ^
01:02:804 (6) - ^ ^
01:05:973 (6) - ^ not to mention later, keep adding them to the final ^ I only really found one spot after the one you mentioned where I had to fix NCs so I hope that they're fine now
01:09:142 (9) - Sampleset Normal Hmm, I dunno, I think that suddenly changing to Normal sampleset sounds weird as heck.
01:09:565 (1,2,3) - ^ Since I use drum sampleset here changing it to Normal kind of makes it sound worse imo + above so...
01:24:565 (1,2) - use Normal whistles, also finish on 01:24:565 (1) As before, I dunno, I don't quite like how it switches to Normal Sampleset like that so I don't really want to use Normal whistles/finishes sorry
01:27:945 (1,5) - normal whistle too, not to mention later Same as above
01:36:818 (3) - Sampleset Normal Same as above
01:50:339 (2) - ^ Same as above
Sorry for just modding the hitsounds and NCs, since I'm poor at modding structures >w< Well, I don't really agree with the random switches to Normal sampleset, but the NCs were nice to point out, so it's alright

Arf wrote:

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

You may copy hitsounds from Shinenite's Insane which fits the song better, or you should consider add finishes here and there. Yep did this, Shine's hitsounds are nice Thank you :')

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

m4m from my queue~ hihi

[General]
looks fine

[Easy]
00:15:269 (3,4) - The music fits more with a reverse slider + a circle, with 00:15:269 (3) a 1/2 reverse slider and a single circle at 00:16:536 (4) to express the lower tune here. I tried to fit it in here but I don't want to miss the held sound by making 00:16:114 (4) - a note :c
00:43:156 (5,1,2) - just for aesthetic, what about making them a regular triangle since you're doing perfect blankets? Adjusted, couldn't make perfect since I want 1 to point at it though
? something like

SPOILER

01:07:663 (4,5,1) - I think the note is just a bit squeezed here, feeling a bit awkward, especially the moving flow is rolling back. What about make 01:08:508 (1,2) moving upward, this may make you change a few patterns. You have a point but I like the symmetry of the next sliders, I'll consider if more people think it looks cramped
01:37:663 - I wonder why there isn't a note, it feels really strange if you played this part and you can't find a reason to remove this one since other rhythms are fully filled. I checked Lanturn's mod and I guess he means you to extend the repeat of 01:36:396 (3) here XD. Nah I read the mod again and based on how it was before he definitely asked it to be this way. I don't much like the pause but it works in my opinion is why I changed it.

[Normal]
00:29:635 (3) - Just my personal opinion, what about make it a copy of 00:28:579 (1)? Then I will get comments about ill fitting blankets
00:36:184 (2) - remove this one? I noticed you're not filling up all the rhythms and seems that you can get this note away to make it easier.
00:49:706 (2) - ^ same for this Hmm you have a point about removing some of these, I will think about which ones can be removed without being inconsistent and make it a little simpler.
01:26:677 (1,2) - I would reverse the rhythm here, that is 1/2 slider for 1 and 1/1 for 2, imo this rhythm fits the song better. Agreed, this sounds better to me as well

[Hard]
00:23:297 (5,6,1,2,3) - The rhythm here is a bit hard for players just reaching Hard diff, and will be easily to get miss on 00:23:719 (1,2,3), so I suggest making 00:23:297 (5,6) a slider. IMO that takes away from the rising BGM intensity
00:26:043 (3,4) - I think it's a bit overmapped in hard diff as I can hardly distinguish anything on the blue lines and wonder why they're 1/4 reverses. 00:27:733 (5) I can understand this reverse tho. tbh I think 00:26:677 deserves more with a 1/4 reverse than
00:26:466. The reverse sliders are mapped to some guitars that appear consistently, and not the trumpets
00:54:142 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - tbh this really shocked me at the first time and missed some circles. 00:54:776 (1) - I think you need a NC here to emphasize the players that the next circle is here and won't be lossed in the reverses. And my personal thoughts, you can change 00:54:987 (2,3,4,5) into 2 sliders to make this pattern easier.
01:06:607 (1,2) - can't understand these 1/4 reverses too, and I think 01:06:818 is strong enough to have a circle or slider start here.
I can understand your patterns, but some mixes of 1/4 and 1/2 sliders can really make new players confused, especially the reverse sliders that reverse over 3 times. I hope you may reconsider some of them to decrease the difficulty. e.g. 01:52:452 (3) is really confusing. Also 01:56:677 (1,2), make a different rhythm and players can't react quickly. I did actually make some of the triple>circle>triple into some sliders to make it a bit easier. I know the map is a bit dense for a hard but I wanted to represent the song as much as possible


[Savage]
00:16:959 (1,2,3,4,5) - This one is really tricky, is that intended? 00:17:804 (5) is hard to notice, even harder than 00:22:663 (4) which is a similar pattern since you use a triple here 00:17:276 (2). Yeah those back and forths are intended, I put them in all my maps
You may copy hitsounds from Shinenite's Insane which fits the song better, or you should consider add finishes here and there. Yep did this, Shine's hitsounds are nice

Sorry for such a short and low quality mod XD, your map is really well structured and I can hardly pick any problems. So I mainly focused on rhythms and hitsounds, hope my mod helps.
Good luck on this set~Thanks for the mod, helped quite a bit, hope my mod helped you as well

Yumeno Himiko wrote:

m4m from my queue~

[Warpy's Insane]
02:06:712 (8,9) - do not overmap Fine
02:08:402 (10,11) - and these ^
I love this diff, it's hard for me to find any problems ;w; good job Thanks for modding!

walaowey wrote:

Warpy's Insane

1. 00:01:008 (1) - i think u can stop the spinner at 00:03:015 - it sounds better xD Fine
2. 00:34:494 (4) - stack is off nice catch
3. 00:35:339 (1) - ^ ^
4. 01:09:987 (3,1) - ^ ^
5. 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i notice u got a few of this patterns. imo the flow is not that smooth. *click*
   the sudden upward flow to (4) is kinda unnecessary imo. and its hard to aim the triplets previously (1,2,3) [its my opinion here] I cant think of a way to map it that flows better and I'm not a big fan of linear flow its really hard to hit when playing. Imo it already has a pretty good flow
6. 01:28:367 (4) - its touching the hp bar 01:28:367 (4) - Fixed
7. 02:06:607 (7,1) - maybe place them close or stack them? the spacing was kinda confusing because u got continous 1/2 gap single tapping previously. when i test it, i thought it was 1/2 too >< I'll consider it if more people point it out

That's all from me, Good Luck Thanks for the mod!

walaowey wrote:

Shinenite's Insane

1. 00:03:121 (4,5) - i dont hear any sounds for this 2, remove them? Nah, there's definitely sounds there.
2. 00:03:438 (6) - NC? its a downbeat Fixed
3. 01:24:142 (1) - NC would be nice here Fixed
4. 01:32:593 (10,1) - dont overlap them? Fixed

walaowey wrote:

hi m4m
thanks alot for your mod

general

your bg was 1 pixel off

Savage

• lol those spacing stream so hard to play =3=. hee hee hee

1. 01:09:142 (1,2,3,1) - use a different pattern? bcoz its similar to the previous part. maybe try to use a different slider pattern or something. It's similar to help people read the SV change since it's basically the same pattern from before
2. 01:17:381 (8,9,10) - this jump was quite big imo. the beat was not even that strong at that point, and its quite constant with 01:16:114 (1,2,3,4) - Fair, I guess you are correct about this, changed somewhat.
3. 01:17:804 (1) - this circle should have a bigger spacing instead imo, since its beat is alot strong than 01:17:381 (8,9,10) - Made this somewhat bigger
4. 01:19:494 (1) - could use a bigger jump too because (8) -> (1) has strong beat but (7) -> (8) has weaker beat, when u stack (1) on (7), it feels like you're using the same spacing here, which will not emphasize (1) that well imo Eh I think it sounds about the same personally
5. 01:21:501 - u miss a beat here. Yeah this was pointed out by someone today as well, good catch
6. 01:35:973 (3,4) - ctrl+g for the rhythm here will be better since 01:36:184 - has strong beat. slider tail cant emphasize it that well imo Hmm I'll consider it but that's an odd one out drum beat I'm not so sure about making it emphasizing
7. 01:56:149 (2) - i dont hear any sound here maybe remove it? I hear a triple though :L
8. 01:56:677 (1,2,3,4) - i dont hear any sound on (2) . u can try to change the rhythm to 1/2 slider+2 circle like this I hear a double double here D:
9. 01:04:283 (1,2,3) - this triplets can have bigger spacing imo. maybe u can reduce the spacing for 01:03:755 (2,3,4,5,6) - instead since this part was not that intense. It sounds pretty intencse to me though, since it's a rising stream sound and it's the same as the part before where thats happens :c

Hard

1. 00:32:276 (1) - its touching the hp bar https://puu.sh/ussXU/01307a401a.jpg Yes, yes it is
2. 01:00:480 (5) - ^ MMMMMF
3. 01:08:297 (8,9,10) - stack it with 01:07:452 (3) - ? Nah I think this one works okay

That's all from me, Good Luck Thanks for the mod

Log Off Now wrote:

m4m from my q

[General]

bg is 1365x768 lol, need another pixel

[Easy]

there isn't a single pause for breath in this difficulty apart from spinner recovery here 00:02:592 -, makes this easy feel a bit like playing a normal. would suggest simplifying some rhythms to give emphasis on important notes. e.g 00:55:832 (4) - here would be a good place to just put a circle so the player has a chance to rest a bit You have a point.... I'm the first person to admit I loathe Easies and don't particularly care about them :c but even though the diff is all 1/1 if it's still too dense for newbies then we'll have a looksee

00:00:903 (1) - maaaybe a bit too short spinner? would double check with a bn Am on fence about this too
00:23:719 (1) - any reason why you use a different rhythm for this part when the previous two parts use an identical rhythm? feels inconsistent to me
01:04:283 (1) - ya^ This is for the loud ass trumpets in the background, the held note ones that is. If newbies can't hear them and prefer to hit the same rhythm over and over i'l consider changing but a little variation should be okay imo, and they're consistent between the two parts at least
01:17:804 (3,4,5,1) - this could be potentially misleading, as most noob players just tend to look at what object is closest to them they are more likely to click (1) first before (5), would suggest moving the placements of these around a bit to make it easier to read I'll consider this, if I get more comments about it might change

[Normal]

00:00:903 (1,1) - ok even though this is somewhat low bpm i think this is too short for spinner recovery, would like to see at least half a beat more Okay why not
00:39:565 (2,3,4) - i feel this rhythm would be better if it was ctrl + g'd that way you follow the little vocal hold when he says 'land' and also make the two ending drum beats clickable Good idea, done that
01:19:494 (3,4) - why not make these the same shape as 01:17:804 (1,2) - for visual consistency with 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4) - It ends up looking like a failed symmetry with 01:18:649 (2) - and doesn't look very nice imo :c

[Hard]

00:09:776 (2) - unsure about this kickslider since they're still relatively difficult to understand for hard diffs, would prefer if it was just a circle
00:15:269 (1,2) - here they're not as bad as they are used on a significant drum fill, where as before it was used to accent a small snare flick which isn't nearly as important to emphasise imo Fair enough, I can agree it's a needless overcomplexification
00:18:438 (6,1) - move these a tiny bit lower for a perfect linear line Damn stacking
00:26:043 (3) - i think this white tick should be clickable since its such a strong note in the guitar (i also dont really know what this repeat slider is meant to represent in the music, i can't hear anything on the blue tick)
00:26:466 (4) - ya^ They're mapped to the guitar which does a scratchy thing here, and they're not straight triples because that makes the part too dens for finger control in a Hard imo.
00:30:480 (1,4) - same slider shape for visual consistency?
00:37:241 (1,4) - ya^ Changed this one but not the first one as I don't want straight sliders leading into 1/4 notes :<
01:02:381 (8,1) - this is a huge ds change compared to the previous time you used this patterning 00:59:001 (8,1) - , you also never had a big ds change in the previous section used this pattern, so it's a really odd thing to do here, would prefer it if you just followed your stack patterning for this Mmm yes good point about this too, changed
01:38:719 (3) - any reason why you didnt follow the same pattern that you did here to follow the trumpets 01:25:198 (3,4,5) - , it feels like a strange swap on emphasis especially because you have a triple 01:39:142 (4,5,6) - here instead which contradicts the previous kiai and the rest of this kiai
02:01:748 (8) - maybe a bit more spacing here to match the similar build up feeling you had before? I don't hear a trumpet there so I didn't map a trumpet triple, the other triple after it is for the drum triple which occurs there, I know I've been using repeat sliders for those and straight triples for trumpets, but in the kiai I wanted to make it more intense so



gl! Thanks for the useful and in depth mod! wish mine had been half as good.

-Mo- wrote:

Warpyc
- 00:10:198 (1) - I feel like you could do something more interesting than a long spinner for this section. There are plenty of beats to map to. Honestly unless I really have to I don't want to do it, really all I hear is those trumpets and an occasional drum, it would be really lame and an acc killer for very little reason
- 00:20:550 (1,2,3) - These offbeat sliders are inconsistent with how you mapped the same sounds elsewhere, 00:16:959 (1,2,3). fuck me that really fucks my shit up, knew it sounded a bit weird
- 00:39:776 - Mapping this beat to a passive beat is inconsistent with how you've mapped it before, 00:38:085. If I changed that it would ruin the ability to transfer over to mapping the drums at 00:39:987 - also it fits fairly well with the vocal. I see your point though
- 01:01:114 (1,2,3) - Offbeat sliders thing. Fixed same as before
- 01:16:325 (2,3,4) - Based on where the loud sounds are, I would try and make it so 3-4 has lower spacing compared to 2-3. I think a progressive spacing increase works better here, feels a bit awkward otherwise
- 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - As with the Shinenite diff, the trumpet triple isn't really emphasised since the pattern blends with the stream from the previous combo. Maybe rotate these notes to add emphasis via angles? I don't think adding sharp angles in the stream would do it any good, while I do agree the trumpet might not be as emphasised as it could be, I'm banking on the spacing increase to be good enough to give it some feeling. I might change this if I find a way to make it work without feeling really shit while playing

Thanks for the mod!

Log Off Now wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]

00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - starting maps on a stream is a bit meh imo because the player doesn't have a sense of the bpm or timing they need to hit but i guess this is a bit subjective, so its up to you True, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Plus, all of the Insane+ difficulties start with a stream so it's kind of consistent for it to be like that.
00:23:297 (6) - maybe nc this to further accent the louder note in the trumpet? this also helps justify the direction change in the stream Don't think it's necessary
00:37:663 (2,3) - would prefer this to be a slider to stick with the consistency you have in this section Sure
00:41:466 (3,4) - wide angles when the note pitch changes also feels kinda bad to play, maybe try a jump pattern like this instead? Though I don't agree that it was bad to play, your suggestion is not too bad either so I did apply it.
00:52:029 (5) - similar comment to 00:37:663 (2,3) - but change this into two circles to match the consistency you have in this half of the section In this case I don't really think it's necessary cause there it goes from circle > slider > circle > slider so it's consistent anyway.
01:03:860 (7) - maybe nc this to further accent the louder note in the trumpet? this also helps justify the direction change in the stream (wont point this out anymore) Don't think it's necessary
01:24:565 (1,2,3) - any reason why you ignore the trumpet here yet follow it for the rest of the kiai? Fixed.
01:32:593 (10,1) - shadow overlap in default skin, move 1 a little bit higher to avoid Already fixed this when the previous mod pointed it out

-Mo- wrote:

Shinenite's Insane
- 00:25:198 (5) - I would consider making this a slider to end on the downbeat so that the guitar is emphasised appropriately. Sure
- 00:47:381 (1) - You whistled the whole slider, which I don't think is intentional. Well, it was intentional, because there's a whistle sound in the music that apparently nobody hears (see: discussion on Discord) but even considering that I guess it's super out of place so I did fix it...
- 01:05:762 (5) - Slider thing. Sure
- 01:31:748 (4) - Missing clap. Fixed
- 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - The trumpet triple isn't really emphasised since the pattern blends with the stream from the previous combo. Maybe rotate these notes to add emphasis via angles? I think the triple is emphasised enough with the NC and the whistle hitsounding, changing the angle sort of messes with the pattern... May change it later if it comes up again, though.

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- 02:07:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These beats sound similar to the previous combo, so I would use a similar sort of pattern for consistency. Did change up the pattern of the previous jumps a bit, they're not exactly same but I did use triangles to make it more consistent.

-Mo- wrote:

Sorry if this sounds rude to you

I don't think you can make a good beatmap to this kind of "song". The player has to remember the whole song, because there is no general beat. It's very confusing. on the "normal" diff it was fine, but on "insane" it was really hard, because I never heard the song before, and there was no beat to follow.

Therefore, I suggest you forfeit instead you try again with another song, that has a beat the player can follow and play to every time

General
- 00:00:057 - Might aswell put the red timing point here. We talked about this already

Easy
- 00:35:550 (3) - Maybe just make this a curve like 00:33:860 (1)? Three different sliders in the same combo seems kind of messy. Sure why not
- 01:04:283 (1) - Why is this different to 00:57:522 (1,2)? You're missing a lot more beats with this slider which doesn't seem like the necessary thing to do. Explained this in LON's mod above
- 01:17:804 (3) - NC should be here. so it should
- 01:19:494 (1) - And kill this one. All righty then
- 01:36:396 (3) - Might aswell make this a curve to pair with 01:34:705 (1). Seems I forgot to change this after creating a gap here
- 01:44:846 (1,2,3,4) - This being the only red tick combo for this section seems kind of out of place and may throw beginners off expecting consistency. Sounds better to me since it goes with the vocals and constant white ticks have never done anyone any favors, they'll have to buck up or play some 0.96* beginner if they can't handle this, it's even 1/1 still :L
- 01:56:677 (4) - Pair with 01:55:832 (3). Meh all right

Normal
- 00:31:325 (3,4) - 00:33:015 (3) - Having these as inconsistent rhythms doesn't seem right to me.
- 00:44:846 (3,4) - 00:46:536 (3) - Yeah. These have to do with how the vocals are structured (particularly in the second example) and the desire to leave a small gap for a player to not have to constantly hit objects - that's what the Hard is for so they can get screwed
- 01:38:086 (1,2) - Pairing thing. Dunno why that has an anchor to begin with
- 02:04:283 (4,5) - I feel like these beats seem out of place, since the final strong trumpet is on 02:04:071 mapped to a slider tail, and then you follow with two active beats on calm beats. I would maybe try this rhythm. Y'know what, I agree. Did this.

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- 02:08:931 (4) - I'd maybe put the NC here. Sure, why not

|Hard
- 00:26:254 - 00:26:677 - I'd aim to map these beats to active notes since this is where the guitar is. Does no one hear guitar triples >:c
- 00:47:593 (2) - This 1/4 with such a sharp angle on it just looks out of place to me. Did something slightly different here with some rotations and deleting of anchors
- 01:06:818 - 01:07:240 - Active note thing. Guitar triple thing
- 01:06:184 - 01:07:663 - NCs should be here right? Indeed they should be
- 01:31:747 (4) - Seems to be missing a clap. Guess his jokes weren't appreciated, what's up with that

Savage
- 00:17:276 (2,3) - Nazi thing, stack messed up. Thought this was fixed :L
- 00:25:303 (5) - I don't hear anything to warrant a triple here personally. I hear something......
- 00:33:332 - There's a beat here you could map to if you wanted. Huh, you're right. I don't want to map an inconsistent beat though
- 00:45:269 (1,1) - This sort of spacing and smooth flow seems kind of innappropriate for the downbeat. Maybe try increase the spacing and add some emphasis through angles? You have a point about the spacing, changed this
- 00:52:029 (1,1) - Same thing. Note that this also has the same spacing as 00:51:607 (1,1) which could be confusing. Yeah okay that's fair
- 01:05:867 (5) - Seems overmapped to me. Okay you may have a point here, I hear a triple in the similar section that occurs before this though, and isn't an inconsistency a bigger problem
- 01:12:734 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Yeah I think you know how I feel about these already, but you won't change them probably /shrug Shades of Zepp
- 01:31:748 (4) - Clap thing. Laine's thing
- 01:37:241 (1,2,3,4) - Up to you with what you decide to do with this, but I found it kind of difficult to get 300s on all of these consistently with this arrangement. I'll brainstorm this
- 01:43:579 (6) - Also missing a clap. Wheee

Thanks for the -Mo-d

Neoskylove wrote:

Q

[savage]
00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - too big Ds? Shortened a tiny bit
00:09:987 - add a beat Think it's a double
00:28:579 (1,2,3) - too big SV, I think this SV dion't need. yeah it's a bit gimmicky but i'd like to keep it if possible
01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Just back and linear fourth pattern looks not so fun for me. Eh I like these personally, dunno how they play for others
01:39:776 (1,2) - overlap don't fit with your map, You have a point but I think it plays okay
02:09:987 (5) - Is this wiggle okay? I think it's okay as no one else has says it

GL Thanks for the mod

1. 00:00:902 (1) - Prefer this spinner end at 00:02:592 I think.
2. 01:07:663 (4) - NC?
3. 01:46:325 (3,4) - blanket

1. 01:29:424 (1,2) - blanket

1. 01:13:156 (2,3,4) - The arrangement of those sliders seems not so vivid to me.. Consider putting them higher from each other?

1. 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - DS could be larger, no obvious downbeats used here;
2. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - Hmmm... So here you continue the stream when it comes with an NC. And you changed DS here for emphasis. It's OK but for newbie 4* players they would think this arrangement a bit exhausted to play with and I think something soft could be used to replace this.
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A regular octagon would be better;

1. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - (Same as 01:38:086 (1,2,3) in Shinenite diff)

1. 01:00:480 (6) - ctrl+g?
2. 02:09:987 (5) - Wow nice slider!

1. well, nothing wrong XD

1. 00:08:086 (6,7) - these two could add finish, to follow the song.
2. 00:19:494 (5,6) - I want to suggest you to stretch these two slider to 3/4 http://puu.sh/uxRhb/a5f643ddf6.jpg these rhythm is kinda unique so I think there need something different that is not normally 1/2, It's also give more feeling.
3. 00:24:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - maybe less their spacing like 00:26:043 (3,4,5,6,7,8) ? I think it's not strong enough to be spaced like 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) and more. It even weaker than 00:26:043 (3,4,5,6,7,8) imo.
4. 00:28:579 (1,2) - how fast of slider doesn't fit with spacing imo. fast slider but short spacing make it less flow so I think make them further is better. something like http://puu.sh/uxXTI/9a29a73527.jpg
5. 00:40:198 (7) - replace with two circles fits better imo. sound on tail is pretty strong so change to circle and make some jump is more fun to play.
6. 00:40:621 (1) - I think this slider is more fit with the song if it's slower and stretch to 3/4.
7. 01:00:480 (6) - aaa ctrl+g is more flow I think but I don't force your style XD
8. 01:05:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same
9. 01:09:142 (1,2,3,1) - same
10. 02:08:297 (8) - 1.50x spacing is more fit imo, not overjumped.
11. 00:19:917 (6) - sampleset-drum clap sounds better and will be consistency with 00:26:678 (8)
12. 01:05:445 (2) - remove sampleset-drum for consistency?
13. 01:11:043 (1,3) - whistle on tail?
14. I think you still need to add many finish hitsound for example 01:48:227 (1) , 01:44:846 (1) and etc.

1. 01:49:705 - http://puu.sh/uxZGr/6a44ccaa96.jpg is more fit with the song/hitsound you use imo, really strong on tail so it's more fit if it's circle and jump to next slider.
2. 01:52:452 (1) - no need NC imo. it's just.... unnecessary.
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - will be perfect if the spacing is increase bit by bit per circle. more fit with the song and give more impact.
4. 01:55:409 - strong beat at tail, kinda lacks of impact http://puu.sh/uxZVr/dd40f099ae.jpg this rhythm is more fit and plays better imo.
5. 02:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same
6. 02:02:170 (1,1,2) - same
7. 02:08:931 (1) - make it further? might confused player that it's 1/2 rhythm to (2)
8. your diff still lacks of many finish hitsound, please check them o.o

1. 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - make them liner with 4 like 00:13:579 (1,2,3,4) really plays better, unless you want to use force-flow pattern.
2. 00:32:276 (5) - add NC
3. I think many finish hitsound still missing such as 00:44:001 (1)
4. 00:48:649 (5,6,1) - maybe make their spacing consistent like you did on 00:49:494 (2,3,4)?

1. 00:08:508 (1,2,3) - aaa it looks more like spacing error tbh, because they are the only part that has spacing like this even the rhythm is not that different with other pattern. use the same spacing as other part?
2. 00:28:156 (5) - looks like spacing error, move it further.
3. 00:54:776 (1) - this kind of pattern no need NC imo.
4. same hitsound suggestion as savage diff.
5. 00:09:353 (1) - no need NC.

1. you did very good on this diff, some note might off the playfield? such as 02:01:325 (4), otherwise it's perfect.

1. 01:24:565 (1,2,3) - this rhythm is pretty weird for beginner tbh, they always got told that just follow the drum but this rhythm is vocal instead of drum. follow drum instead like you did on 01:38:086 (1,2,3) is better imo.
2. 01:31:325 (1,2,3) - same here, beginner can't pay attention that much to the vocal imo. they focus on approach circle and drum. (I teach many beginner player here XD)

-Spica- wrote:

[Warpy's Insane]

1. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - (Same as 01:38:086 (1,2,3) in Shinenite diff) I don't think there's a better way to do it since a repeat slider would make the trumpet feel less important than the drums which is the reverse of what I want so for now at least I'll leave it

P A N wrote:

[Warpy]

1. 01:49:705 - http://puu.sh/uxZGr/6a44ccaa96.jpg is more fit with the song/hitsound you use imo, really strong on tail so it's more fit if it's circle and jump to next slider. Sure
2. 01:52:452 (1) - no need NC imo. it's just.... unnecessary. I want to keep it consistent with the other parts of my map basically just NC after every sv increase like 01:50:762 (1) - 01:55:832 (1) - and some others
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - will be perfect if the spacing is increase bit by bit per circle. more fit with the song and give more impact. Sure but hard to do without making the jumps really big, but hope this works a bit better
4. 01:55:409 - strong beat at tail, kinda lacks of impact http://puu.sh/uxZVr/dd40f099ae.jpg this rhythm is more fit and plays better imo. fine
5. 02:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - same same
6. 02:02:170 (1,1,2) - same ^
7. 02:08:931 (1) - make it further? might confused player that it's 1/2 rhythm to (2) kind of hard to do with limited space but I tried
8. your diff still lacks of many finish hitsound, please check them o.o Redid a lot of my hitsounds hopefully a lot better now

-Spica- wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]

1. 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - DS could be larger, no obvious downbeats used here; Sure
2. 01:38:086 (1,2,3) - Hmmm... So here you continue the stream when it comes with an NC. And you changed DS here for emphasis. It's OK but for newbie 4* players they would think this arrangement a bit exhausted to play with and I think something soft could be used to replace this. I think that part in particular is very intense so although I can definitely see what you're saying ny it being a bit difficult, I think making it any less emphasised/spaced would not fit for the music.
3. 01:53:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A regular octagon would be better Ehh... Seems kinda unnecessary, I'd just rather leave it

P A N wrote:

[Shinenite]

1. 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - make them liner with 4 like 00:13:579 (1,2,3,4) really plays better, unless you want to use force-flow pattern. Sure
2. 00:32:276 (5) - add NC Fixed
3. I think many finish hitsound still missing such as 00:44:001 (1) Did add that finish, and did also add more of them in other parts of the map but honestly I feel like the most intense sounds already have a finish on them and I don't see the point of adding more of them in any other places.
4. 00:48:649 (5,6,1) - maybe make their spacing consistent like you did on 00:49:494 (2,3,4)? Sure

Ain053 wrote:

forward and back and then fooorward and back and then forward and back and then ONE STEP FORWARD

1. 00:16:959 (1,2) - lmao
2. 00:30:480 - From this point onward, the rhythm could've been better with more density variations. It's quite bland with 1/1 stuff constantly going on until like 00:55:832 .
3. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Was expecting some symmetric concept like 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - tbh. (Actually you could've placed 01:16:959 (5,6) in a way that they're symmetric with 01:14:424 (1,2) but up to you I guess, though currently the concept looks inconsistent compared to other diffs)
4. 01:21:184 (1,2) - You can use a 2/1 slider + circle instead too, according to your rhythm idea in Normal.

1. 00:15:269 (1) - Since the rhythm changed here, you could use sth else different than this cuz you already used a 1/1 slider thing on 00:11:888 (1,1) which don't have the same rhythm as this.
2. 01:26:043 (4,1) - Swap NC I guess.
3. 01:27:945 (1,2) - Why aren't these the same symmetric stuff like 01:31:325 (1,2) - 01:34:705 (1,2) - etc?
4. Overall aesthetics can still be polished imo, sth like 00:19:917 (3,3) - 00:26:677 (4,1,2,3) - looks really cluttered and should be cleaned up.
5. Also same thing as what Mr.Hobbes mentioned about rhythm density in the second kiai.

1. 00:54:142 (1) - Can be confused with 00:43:579 (7) - 00:47:593 (2) - which have different number of repeats, the safest bet for this is to add a triplet on top of 00:54:142 (1) so you will have only 1 repeat on it.
2. 01:04:283 (1,3) - Where's the 1/4 rhythms aaaa, if you're sacrificing 01:04:283 (1) for 01:03:860 (5) then it's not really worth it cuz you're breaking your own consistency.
3. 01:21:395 (2,4) - Aren't these supposed to be hitsounded in the same way or sth?
4. 01:23:297 - Could've been hitsounded too.
5. 01:53:508 (2,3,4,5) - More consistent visual spacing pls
6. Kiai feels surprisingly underwhelming for some reason, do you use any concepts in particular for kiai parts? Or do you just map normally? Asking this cuz to me kiai isn't interesting as other parts like 00:16:959 - 01:11:043 where you have cooler stuff going on.

1. 00:02:805 (1,2,3,4,5) - A stream doesn't play really well because these sounds are not equally prominent, a different kind of rhythm should be used.
2. 01:01:959 (4) - Probably should just use a triplet since it's musically different from 01:00:903 (1,3) .
3. 01:11:043 - N a good idea to ignore those constant 1/1 sounds as they're really prominent in this section, using 1/4 rhythms is fine but they aren't done in a way that really highlights the constant 1/1 properly/consistently, which is the most prominent thing in that section. Things like 01:13:790 (8,9,10,11,12) - completely kills the emphasis on it since the most prominent thing 01:14:001 (10) is in the middle of the stream, 01:18:649 - this should be clickable in the first place, etc.
4. 01:31:325 (1,2,3) - 01:31:959 (5,6,7) - Why aren't you using the same DS on both of these tho?
5. 01:37:346 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - Now the emphasis here isn't good as it should be, in this case 01:38:085 should be emphasized. To do so, you have to do something else other than just continuing the stream 01:38:086 (1,2,3) to make the gameplay more discernible as the rhythm changes.
6. 01:58:156 - 01:58:261 - Could do some 1/4 rhythms here, the rhythm changes at 01:58:367 so in this case you can map those beats I mentioned so that a 1/1 gap will be introduced after 01:58:367 which makes more sense since the rhythm changed there rather than the current one which suddenly does a 1/1 gap 01:57:945 (9,1) when the rhythm hasn't changed yet.
7. Kiai is very repetitive tbh, at least you should do something differently on the later half 01:38:085 for variations.
8. Aesthetics could be improved tho, feels like some overlaps 00:18:860 (1,3,4,5) - 01:00:058 (3,2) - 01:40:621 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - are rather unintentionally placed than having a solid reasoning or concept behind them.
9. The diff itself is okay-ish but seems to lack in details like aesthetics, flows, variations, etc. Stuff like 00:20:338 (1,2,3,4,7) - Looks very forced, 01:53:297 (1,8) - 02:00:481 (3,8) - Could be polished according to how the pattern was arranged, etc.

1. 00:08:085 - The drum is building up here but you already used jump patterns since 00:07:240 onward. There should be a more significant change in gameplay at 00:08:085 so you should make these two parts 00:07:241 (2,3,4,5) - 00:08:086 (1,2,3,4,5) - more discernible, according to the drums' rhythm.
2. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped as well if you went for 00:09:881 .
3. 01:45:058 (3,4,5) - This one is inconsistently stood out from the others cuz you used wide angles unlike every other ones 01:28:156 (3,4,5) - 01:31:536 (3,4,5) - 01:34:917 (3,4,5) - etc where you used sharp angles as transitions between triplets.

1. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped too, otherwise you'll just have a 3/4 gap 00:09:881 (7,1) which we all know it's really awkward and not intuitive in gameplay.
2. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like, you used 00:23:191 (5,6,7,8,9) which mainly involving a fast movement, and then you're forcing 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) which also involves a fast movement but the rhythm isn't really calling for it, 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is a lot more easier to play and more fitting to the song.
3. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Also why the pattern is so widely spaced compared to 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - zzz
4. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - These one are like out of my expectation zzz, if you're going to do something like this you have to introduce something to indicate a fast SV concept before putting it into use otherwise it'll trip players up. In this case I would do either overlap those sliders or change the shapes to something that involves less movement to give more leniency of tripping up in actual gameplay, etc etc these are just my ideas.
5. The usage of spaced triplets and streams are sooo much to the point where they don't really look interesting/special throughout the map, and there isn't much things going on besides some symmetric patterns so yeah the diff could've been more interesting compared to Hard since you have a lot less gameplay restrictions. (but hey I really like Hard tbh)

Electoz wrote:

[Easy]

1. 00:16:959 (1,2) - lmao Fixed.
2. 00:30:480 - From this point onward, the rhythm could've been better with more density variations. It's quite bland with 1/1 stuff constantly going on until like 00:55:832 I'll add some more repeat sliders or things here
3. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Was expecting some symmetric concept like 01:11:043 (1,2,3,4) - 01:14:424 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - tbh. (Actually you could've placed 01:16:959 (5,6) in a way that they're symmetric with 01:14:424 (1,2) but up to you I guess, though currently the concept looks inconsistent compared to other diffs) I kind of thought that in the lowest diff the player would hear the lyrics more and not really pay attention to the beat so I just went "whatever" for the Easy in terms of structural similarity to the other diffs, but yeah this is a bit of a point, I'll try and work on the pattern a bit
4. 01:21:184 (1,2) - You can use a 2/1 slider + circle instead too, according to your rhythm idea in Normal. ]I like what it follows here but if it gets brought up as an inconsistency I can pop it off no big deal

[Normal]

1. 00:15:269 (1) - Since the rhythm changed here, you could use sth else different than this cuz you already used a 1/1 slider thing on 00:11:888 (1,1) which don't have the same rhythm as this. Good point, fixed this
2. 01:26:043 (4,1) - Swap NC I guess. Yes, better
3. 01:27:945 (1,2) - Why aren't these the same symmetric stuff like 01:31:325 (1,2) - 01:34:705 (1,2) - etc? I kind of split them into sets, like "first instance of the verse patterned like this, second one patterned like this" although at some point I made 01:28:579 (2,1) - so I dunno where that came from. Can look into repatterning if necessary
4. Overall aesthetics can still be polished imo, sth like 00:19:917 (3,3) - 00:26:677 (4,1,2,3) - looks really cluttered and should be cleaned up. I mean, are they that noticeable? :c I think they work okay structurally
5. Also same thing as what Mr.Hobbes mentioned about rhythm density in the second kiai. I know I've said it already but I think with the Easy existing the standard of difficulty for the Normal can afford to be a bit higher or denser than regularly seen. Also since it's the kiai I think the more intense sounds can be justified as being a denser rhythm

[Hard]

1. 00:54:142 (1) - Can be confused with 00:43:579 (7) - 00:47:593 (2) - which have different number of repeats, the safest bet for this is to add a triplet on top of 00:54:142 (1) so you will have only 1 repeat on it. Good idea actually, I was wondering how to make those easier to read with the different number of repeats throughout the map
2. 01:04:283 (1,3) - Where's the 1/4 rhythms aaaa, if you're sacrificing 01:04:283 (1) for 01:03:860 (5) then it's not really worth it cuz you're breaking your own consistency. Good point here as well, made ion consistent with previous instance of this rhythm
3. 01:21:395 (2,4) - Aren't these supposed to be hitsounded in the same way or sth? They should be now
4. 01:23:297 - Could've been hitsounded too. It has a drum finish :c
5. 01:53:508 (2,3,4,5) - More consistent visual spacing pls Changed this
6. Kiai feels surprisingly underwhelming for some reason, do you use any concepts in particular for kiai parts? Or do you just map normally? Asking this cuz to me kiai isn't interesting as other parts like 00:16:959 - 01:11:043 where you have cooler stuff going on. Well I dunno I kinda went with the flow of the Insane but simplified, lotta triples but not too many 1/2 after it cause that might be too much spread wise. And here I thought it might be too dense O_o

[Savage]

1. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped too, otherwise you'll just have a 3/4 gap 00:09:881 (7,1) which we all know it's really awkward and not intuitive in gameplay. The sound sounds like a double to me but if it's mentioned again I might do it
2. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Like, you used 00:23:191 (5,6,7,8,9) which mainly involving a fast movement, and then you're forcing 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) which also involves a fast movement but the rhythm isn't really calling for it, 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is a lot more easier to play and more fitting to the song.
3. 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Also why the pattern is so widely spaced compared to 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - zzz Okay I can explain this. GranDSenpai pointed out to me that at 00:23:719 (1) - the trumpet suddenly has a really intense rise, which then drops off a bit immediately after, before fading away completely by 00:25:832 (2) - and then a smaller rise happens at 00:27:100 (1) - . This is why the spacing is so huge at 00:23:719 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - , considerably smaller between notes but still a little high at 00:24:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and back to higher at 00:27:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
4. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - These one are like out of my expectation zzz, if you're going to do something like this you have to introduce something to indicate a fast SV concept before putting it into use otherwise it'll trip players up. In this case I would do either overlap those sliders or change the shapes to something that involves less movement to give more leniency of tripping up in actual gameplay, etc etc these are just my ideas. I get it, and I asked for playtests to see how much this tripped people up. This map was originally a shitty gimmick attempt and these sliders are kind of an artifact of that, but I think they work okay with how SV is implemented in the rest of the map
5. The usage of spaced triplets and streams are sooo much to the point where they don't really look interesting/special throughout the map, and there isn't much things going on besides some symmetric patterns so yeah the diff could've been more interesting compared to Hard since you have a lot less gameplay restrictions. (but hey I really like Hard tbh) Savage was the first difficulty created and it was made in a slightly different style to the rest of them so it's a bit peculiar in that respect yeah. The number of triple sounds in the song is soooo high it's a little ridiculous. It's why I chose to ignore all the drum triples and map only guitar/trumpet ones because otherwise it would have been even more saturated. I hope the map doesn't feel that bland as an "extra" but I'm the first to admit I'm not very creative :c Glad you enjoyed the Hard!

Shinenite's diff can still be improved more, Savage could use a little more work (that aside, the diff is "kind of" fine just there's something I disagreed with). Other diffs are cool tho.
Good luck~ Thanks very much for the mod and the short review at the end, very helpful! I'll ask around a bit more and make some more tweaks, while Shinenite hones her own craft and Warpyc salivates in anticipation.

Electoz wrote:

[Warpy's Insane]

1. 00:08:085 - The drum is building up here but you already used jump patterns since 00:07:240 onward. There should be a more significant change in gameplay at 00:08:085 so you should make these two parts 00:07:241 (2,3,4,5) - 00:08:086 (1,2,3,4,5) - more discernible, according to the drums' rhythm. Fair point, changed to make it more fitting with the music
2. 00:09:987 - Should be mapped as well if you went for 00:09:881 . It's a very subtle sound that is barely noticeable and imo not even comparable to 00:09:881 - which is a heavy drum sound. I tried it out and I just ended up getting a 100'd on the note all the time, so I'll just leave it like this for the time being
3. 01:45:058 (3,4,5) - This one is inconsistently stood out from the others cuz you used wide angles unlike every other ones 01:28:156 (3,4,5) - 01:31:536 (3,4,5) - 01:34:917 (3,4,5) - etc where you used sharp angles as transitions between triplets. I don't know why I haven't changed this yet because it's definitely true and I've known that part plays meh for a while

Thanks for the mod!

https://puu.sh/v5IR2/70a2208359.osu changed some other stuff as well

Electoz wrote:

[Shinenite's Insane]

1. 00:02:805 (1,2,3,4,5) - A stream doesn't play really well because these sounds are not equally prominent, a different kind of rhythm should be used. Changed it up to use a kickslider/repeat slider
2. 01:01:959 (4) - Probably should just use a triplet since it's musically different from 01:00:903 (1,3) . Fixed
3. 01:11:043 - N a good idea to ignore those constant 1/1 sounds as they're really prominent in this section, using 1/4 rhythms is fine but they aren't done in a way that really highlights the constant 1/1 properly/consistently, which is the most prominent thing in that section. Things like 01:13:790 (8,9,10,11,12) - completely kills the emphasis on it since the most prominent thing 01:14:001 (10) is in the middle of the stream, 01:18:649 - this should be clickable in the first place, etc. Very good point, made changes to emphasize the 1/1 more in spots.
4. 01:31:325 (1,2,3) - 01:31:959 (5,6,7) - Why aren't you using the same DS on both of these tho? Whoops, fixed.
5. 01:37:346 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - Now the emphasis here isn't good as it should be, in this case 01:38:085 should be emphasized. To do so, you have to do something else other than just continuing the stream 01:38:086 (1,2,3) to make the gameplay more discernible as the rhythm changes. I suppose I can agree with it not being as emphasized as it could be, but with the triple going in a different direction than the stream/NC/hitsounding, I think it's enough. Frankly, I just feel like changing the rhythm would make it inconsistent with the rest of kiai.
6. 01:58:156 - 01:58:261 - Could do some 1/4 rhythms here, the rhythm changes at 01:58:367 so in this case you can map those beats I mentioned so that a 1/1 gap will be introduced after 01:58:367 which makes more sense since the rhythm changed there rather than the current one which suddenly does a 1/1 gap 01:57:945 (9,1) when the rhythm hasn't changed yet. Sure
7. Kiai is very repetitive tbh, at least you should do something differently on the later half 01:38:085 for variations. I don't really think so?
8. Aesthetics could be improved tho, feels like some overlaps 00:18:860 (1,3,4,5) - 01:00:058 (3,2) - 01:40:621 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - are rather unintentionally placed than having a solid reasoning or concept behind them. See below.
9. The diff itself is okay-ish but seems to lack in details like aesthetics, flows, variations, etc. Stuff like 00:20:338 (1,2,3,4,7) - Looks very forced, 01:53:297 (1,8) - 02:00:481 (3,8) - Could be polished according to how the pattern was arranged, etc. For this and above, fixed the examples (with some exceptions like with the jump patterns, cause I think those are polished enough) as well as other things I thought I could improve.

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Queue
Fixed the lack of hitsounds in each part
[- - Normal - -]

1. 00:10:198 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Apart of this section, these notes as a whole seems to be a distinct lack of hitsounding. And it sounds really empty too even with only hearing the default soft hitnormals. You can at least add a few drum claps on the upbeats, or the snares/chords over the song track to fill up the hitsound audibility.
2. 00:34:705 (3,1) - Likely a subjective thing for me to say for the two sliders here. Patterning's good, but maybe doing a little more structure of reshaping the curve on slider (1) would probably work much better than the current. Because in my personal view of this, it nearly looked a bit steep when there's another similar slider in rhythm after it. Either you could redo something here, or usually trying a symmetry here perhaps. Well, you could just try your way to improve the aesthetics at least heh. Sure, tried straightening these out a bit
3. 01:01:959 (4,2) - Pretty far overlap excluding the approach rate of the difficulty, but it can possibly be seen to be honest. But hey... overlaps are actually okay to implement on a map, but it should be used correctly. So, I'm quite certain you've tried your best here avoiding such awkward overlaps because of the distance spacing. However, I can give a little help for this part. Over these two sliders' bodies are technically collided, but what I think better is to only overlap slider (2)'s head and most of the body is visible. Pretty good for aesthetics and patterning in my opinion, but it's your call. You kind of have a point here, I'd argue you can't really see it but dunno. Will consider
4. 02:03:015 (3,1,2,3) - Ehh, this is literally the only 1/2 three-circles over all the difficulty, which kinda created a sharp spike by intensity. There are may ways of calming this rhythm composition down though, probably nerfing is also not a good idea as I thought. Maybe slider + circle (or vise versa)? Repeated slider? It's just kinda weird that the song track here sounds too great for an impact by clicking them out. But a spike is probably going to be a big issue, I assume. I figured because of the song and the presence of an Easy diff it's okay, it is a small spike compared to rest of the difficulty in terms of sheer circles but the kiai does up the density a bit anyway so I think it's a nice swan song to end the higher density section.

[- - Hard - -]

1. 00:10:198 - The same thing from the first issue of hitsound lacking.
2. 00:38:085 (4,5) - The structural flowing from circle (3) towards slider (4) doesn't seem to be the smoothly way of players' cursor movements, while it is almost definitely a sharp turn or something that flows pretty uncomfortable. To find a little solution for that, maybe doing some flipping/rotating this slider would work something out. Like this one, for example. You can try the sample one, if you don't mind the overlap. Or you can do similar to this if you dislike the structure. Hmm isn't it better to have the slider point towards 5? At least that makes more sense to me
3. 00:54:353 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The distance spacing in each and every circle is probably looked a bit random, like it's going over approximately 1.5x and goes lower or higher overtime without bearing the note density or the intense of the song track. I understand the patterning about this, but this should also be an objective. Since each of the melody has it's own density, and it shouldn't constantly be increasing into larger distance spacing to the end and become ridiculously too hard. So instead, keeping a balance of using high spacing for the latter ones. Like 00:54:353 (3,4,5,6) - having the same distance spacing for the similarity sound where the intensity is basically all the same (1.4x or 1.5x), and 00:55:410 (7,8,1) - are the larger ones (approx 1.8x) for a little bit of the build up. Didn't make it as high as 1.8 to avoid a spike, but did make the DS a biiit more similar here
4. 01:06:607 (3) - Does this 1/4 repeat sliderkick actually follow something? Because hearing with a slower playback rate over this part more than thrice, there's no kinds of hi-hats or rides that could possibly make this part considering a triple hit compared to 00:26:043 (3) -. So, redoing the rhythm composition here should be done. It's mapped to the guitar triple.
5. 01:24:142 (4,1) - Well, this sounds pretty much great as an impact of the kiai hitting up. So, I wondered why shouldn't this part be something like, a small jump or something that gives the intensity as an emphasis for this one. Perhaps you could at least slightly extend the distance spacing a little more, but just be careful if you're going to apply while the patterning is kinda near an edge of the gameplay field. If not, it's not technically a necessity or a must-do issue. Sure why not, spaced it more to make it have a better impact

[- - Savage - -]

1. - So, there's an unsnapped inherited point on 01:50:331 - which seems like a mistake, or overlooked on the timing setup. So ehh, resnap it on the white tick just after it. That's weird, what happened here
2. 00:43:156 (1,2,3,4) - Okay, this... is probably a little bit of something that's not likely to be good in use of the structure. The angle of the turning is way too sharp when moving onto the stream, and is not pretty comfortable in movement in my opinion. You could try flipping/rotating the slider that it's slider tail should move towards the circles, or redo the placements of the streams if you want to keep the flow before this one. Good point, tried something else here with an overlap
3. 00:58:156 (5,6,1) - The overlap here doesn't seem right though, the placement of circle (1) is kinda out of context too. It's not wrong to attempt to make a back-and-forth, but this one doesn't seem to work well as that. So reconsidering this to find another grid of placement rather than placing it awkwardly in-between the spaced triplets. Dammit I must have missed this after repatterning those triples
4. 01:52:029 (1,2) - Hmm this feels a bit close enough by distance spacing, no? It's 0.8x, so I assume that. Try to, at least, move 01:52:452 (2,3) - lower and flip it vertically with Ctrl + J so it could possibly be approximately 0.9x somehow. Or you could do something else here other than moving it lower or so, just as long as the issue counts. Moved it a bit more but didn't make it exactly 0.9x because I want some leeway between the sudden SV shift and the stream
5. 01:59:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I can see this is a very clear and obvious copy-paste from the part on 01:53:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -. Since in this very present, objectives like these are now a thing for ranking a beatmap in process(if you're going to). So to show a little more effort in almost all sections of the difficulty, you may need to remake this part for it's sake. But likely, it's not likely to feel that it's some "laziness overcome" or somewhat reason. It's just that it kinda takes away all the potential patterns and such where you can already have the chance to make every single pattern more exciting overtime and through the whole difficulty. Of course, isn't this the hardest difficulty? ~ Hehe, you have a bit of a point here, but I feel like since the sound that is being followed between these sections is the same, a little copy/paste rotation at least makes sense rhythmically. And since the sound also increases as the pattern progresses, I think the back n forth spam is appropriate, if a bit simple. Since the map in general utilizes techniques such as symmetry in large amounts, I don't feel (personally) that mapping this pattern removes some potential from the map, since the difficulty already is geared that way from the beginning. It was also originally mapped as an Insane, I don't know how to map extras D=

The map was pretty good to me personally! There are just some things that may need more tweaks in order to improve the structures in the difficulties I modded. I would recommend focusing on aesthetics, patterning, and a few rhythm stuffs because that was mostly mentioned on this post and mainly an objective to look through, or thorough. Still not really ready, needs a little more work over it, and maybe getting more mods is a good idea too. But afterwards, I hope you find this useful! Thanks for the mod, it was very useful and nice to have a different viewpoint on my mapset.

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Warpy's Insane

* 00:16:114 (6,1) - This would look good blanket sure
* 00:31:114 (3,4) - That overlap somehow makes the whole pattern look awful guess so, moved it down a bit so it doesn't overlap
* 00:43:895 (4) - overmapped, delete this one because there is not really any kind of sound Fair
* 00:55:621 (10) - How about you move this one too 118/13 to have a nice or better flow. I dont like where it is placed currently tbh Yeh,
flows a bit better now
* 01:09:987 (3,1) - This looks really ugly, pls try something else here Looks pretty good imo
* Some of the triplets at the kiais flow kinda weird, but it may just be me so I wont mention them. Copy paste is good and all, but it has to flow well too I think it flows fine, honestly good flow was one of the main things I was going for with this diff, the only thing I can imagine as being pretty flow breaking is the spacing of the triples but then again they are like that to emphasize the trumpets, so I think its fine and still flows quite good. Also believe it or not, not a single element of this map is copy pasted, I just don't like mapping the same sound in 5 different ways and tried to stick with the theme which was meant to be smooth flow and intense trumpets linear flow sucks

Thanks for modding

Nevo wrote:

random thing from q yo

Warpy's Insane
- 00:33:860 (2) - maybe stack the tail of this to 00:32:804 (4) - sure
- 00:37:874 (3) - raise this up so it stacks to the tail of 00:38:931 (1) - and then you could move 00:38:086 (4) - to the right a little bit so you keep that even spacing just for neatness why not
Thanks
I too enjoy the Third Reich

also applied some changes from irc chat with GranDSenpai

2017-10-22 18:33 GranDSenpai: 02:07:874 (5,6,7,8,9) -
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: THIS QUINT SUCKS
2017-10-22 18:34 Warpyc: why
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: i dunno
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: whenever i play it
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: i hate it
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: it's awkward
2017-10-22 18:34 Warpyc: hmm
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: i feel like it should just be a triple
2017-10-22 18:34 GranDSenpai: cause
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: with hitsounds loud
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: i can't even hear what you're mapping to
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: in the editor i can hear it
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: but not while playing
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: 02:09:142 (2) -
2017-10-22 18:35 GranDSenpai: also i think there shouyld be a triple here
2017-10-22 18:35 Warpyc: true 1-3 is a lot louder
2017-10-22 18:35 Warpyc: I could change that
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: you could
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: on 3 do a kick slider
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: and still map 8
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: wait
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: on 7 map a kick slider
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: and still have 9 somewhere
2017-10-22 18:36 GranDSenpai: emphasising the strong sounds while not undermapping
2017-10-22 18:36 Warpyc: also on 02:09:353 (2) - I didnt do the triple because I wanted to focus on trumpet
2017-10-22 18:37 GranDSenpai: if you do do a triple
2017-10-22 18:37 GranDSenpai: doesn't it focus on it more?
2017-10-22 18:37 Warpyc: not really
2017-10-22 18:37 GranDSenpai: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9374706
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: hmm yeah
2017-10-22 18:38 GranDSenpai: plus
2017-10-22 18:38 GranDSenpai: i feel like it plays better like that
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: I did map the drums before
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: and yeah
2017-10-22 18:38 Warpyc: akward break
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: 01:37:241 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3) -
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: also i have to say
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: this is sexy
2017-10-22 18:39 Warpyc: its p nice
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: well
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: that's all i have to say abnout the map tbh
2017-10-22 18:39 GranDSenpai: rest is k_hand:
2017-10-22 18:39 Warpyc: hey man it was helpful

Nevo wrote:

random thing from q Hullo

Savage
- Minor ocd thing but you could move 00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - so the 3 is in the center of the screen tried

eh

- 00:03:438 (1) - you could also center this it's just because it's like 1 pixel off not which makes me :C tried again
- 00:09:353 (5) - you can start a 1/2 slider here which of course means shorten 00:09:142 (4) - because the white tick is a pretty strong beat that should be clicked. I get where you're coming from with this, but the mapping here is more focused on the drum, so I think the current rhythm fits better
- 00:14:635 (8) - with the kinda reflecting thing you had going with 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - and 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - wouldn't it make more sense to put 00:14:635 (8) - at like x:256 y:172 because symmetry Makes the jump too big to justify imo
OR if you dont want it there you could move it to x:396 y:168 to reflect how you did 00:14:001 (4) - and then if you dont know where to put the other notes you could move 00:14:846 (9) - to overlap 00:13:156 (3) - and 00:15:058 (10) - to overlap 00:14:001 (4) - that is an absolutely brilliant idea, many thanks!
- 00:13:579 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - you could blanket these to 00:13:156 (3) - yeah seems better, dunno why it wasn't like that to begin with
- 00:15:269 (1,2) - this overlaps the slider which seems kinda messy adjusted per the mod of GranDSenpai
- 00:29:635 (1) - imo kinda bad looking wavy slider the curve just seems super "sharp" maybe make it more smooth Yes, GranDSenpai mentioned this too, tried my best to fix it
- 00:53:297 (1) - this doesnt have to be a red anchor it seems kinda random since like 00:51:607 (1) - isn't a sharp angle I suppose you have a point but I like variety :c
- 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - why do these overlap but 01:12:734 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - doesnt maybe make the first one more like the second did something different here as per GranDSenpai's mod

1. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - uncomfy flow on these to make them stand out even more, right now theyre just there and thats it i feel. needs more emphasis since those are p powerful trumpet noises. also red anchors like on 01:09:142 (1,2) -
2. i feel like the more robotic parts couldve been differentiated from the more jazzy parts by making more use of red anchor sliders
3. 01:49:705 (1) - why isnt this fully vertical :angery:
4. 01:55:409 (1,3) - 1 could blanket 3 or vice versa idk
5. 02:09:987 - lower sv here might work? more smooth feel imo

1. 00:19:494 (5,6) - these strike me as more buzzy than round. i feel that red anchors would represent these better
2. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - nc spam across all 3 notes would do better to signify sv i feel - players will read the nc on 1 as just the start of a new measure so i think more are needed
3. 00:30:480 - starting here you get this sorta robotic voice in the bg that isnt really found in the previous parts - i feel more robotic instead of organic slider shapes would make the difference in sections more noticeable
4. 00:50:339 (4,5,6) - ctrlg to keep that movement symmetry thing from 00:49:072 (9,10) - ?
5. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i feel this would fit better as sliders for consistency with the past 2 sets of combos
6. 01:24:565 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not spaced :c. it's the kiai and the trumpet people associate in the map with spaced triples is there too, so i feel this should be spaced
7. 01:58:367 (1,1) - force movement from 1st to 2nd like the others, dont see any reason for stack
8. 02:09:987 (6) - nice

• 
  Savange

1. 00:00:902 - (very minor) I think it may be better to start the spinner here
2. 00:06:818 (1) - may be a bit more comfortable if you move it more to the right like maybe X:283 Y: 50

• Warpy's Insane

1. 00:07:663 (4) - this note is pretty strong imo - maybe give a bit more spacing than it does now
2. 00:36:396 (1,2,3) - (Minor) I feel this will flow better if you rotate this about 5 degrees

newton- wrote:

from q

[warpy's insane]

1. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - uncomfy flow on these to make them stand out even more, right now theyre just there and thats it i feel. needs more emphasis since those are p powerful trumpet noises. also red anchors like on 01:09:142 (1,2) - Flow is fine especially since there are large breaks between the notes also I think the rhythm break does a good enough job of giving emphasis
2. i feel like the more robotic parts couldve been differentiated from the more jazzy parts by making more use of red anchor sliders this could have been a good idea if I designed the map with that in mind but I didn't and tbh it's just too much effort to change it now. Also not a big fan of sliders with red anchors. However, I did remove a few imo inconsistent red anchor sliders
3. 01:49:705 (1) - why isnt this fully vertical :angery: Fixed
4. 01:55:409 (1,3) - 1 could blanket 3 or vice versa idk Good idea
5. 02:09:987 - lower sv here might work? more smooth feel imo I think the 4x spacing jump to a 1x sv slider contrasts it enough already.
   More would just be asking for sliderbreaks
   
   Thx

Hailie wrote:

• Warpy's Insane

1. 00:07:663 (4) - this note is pretty strong imo - maybe give a bit more spacing than it does now This is a pretty good suggestion but I wont give up muh symmetry
2. 00:36:396 (1,2,3) - (Minor) I feel this will flow better if you rotate this about 5 degrees Sure
   
   Thanks

newton- wrote:

from q Good day

[savage]

1. 00:19:494 (5,6) - these strike me as more buzzy than round. i feel that red anchors would represent these better will consider, someone else mentioned consistency between red anchors and curves, so i might rework that whole idea
2. 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - nc spam across all 3 notes would do better to signify sv i feel - players will read the nc on 1 as just the start of a new measure so i think more are needed I'll consider this too if it gets mentioned again, but due to the long gap between the sliders on the timeline, I think this should be fine
3. 00:30:480 - starting here you get this sorta robotic voice in the bg that isnt really found in the previous parts - i feel more robotic instead of organic slider shapes would make the difference in sections more noticeable there is currently pretty much no distinction between the two kinds of sliders, each is just used for variety kinda whenever, I'll see about remedying that
4. 00:50:339 (4,5,6) - ctrlg to keep that movement symmetry thing from 00:49:072 (9,10) - ? I think it flows very awkwardly if I do that,
   this way I keep the symmetric look while keeping it comfortable to play
5. 01:17:804 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - i feel this would fit better as sliders for consistency with the past 2 sets of combos As the build up comes to a head, I wanted to keep maximum tension for movement into the kiai
6. 01:24:565 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why not spaced :c. it's the kiai and the trumpet people associate in the map with spaced triples is there too, so i feel this should be spaced You are bloody right how has no one else mentioned this yet, even I didn't notice
7. 01:58:367 (1,1) - force movement from 1st to 2nd like the others, dont see any reason for stack Isn't enough space to make it look good..... but it's an inconsistency......aaaagh i'll have to think about how i'm going to deal with this one
8. 02:09:987 (6) - nice heh appreciate it

good luck! Thanks, thought-provoking mod! Gives me a lot to digest

Hailie wrote:

doubt i'll be helpful... you don't have to kd for this since it is very short Hello hello, we'll see Anything helpful is a leaf in the hat

From queue

• 
  Savange

1. 00:00:902 - (very minor) I think it may be better to start the spinner here I'll think about it, it kinda doesn't matter, but also kinda does,
   so i'm not sure
2. 00:06:818 (1) - may be a bit more comfortable if you move it more to the right like maybe X:283 Y: 50 you are correct

this is probably my worst mod man in the words of Hannah Montana, "Everybody has those days" Don't sweat it

GL and have a star - map is really cool Appreciate the kind words

Doj wrote:

what up boi yo yo

[Savage]
00:31:748 (1) - I noticed someone else mentioned the robot voice. I think you should at least change this slider to something robot-esque. You have changed the sv because of the robot voice :/ The SV was actually made slower because the BGM quiets down in this section a lot more. The changing sliders for the robot voice thing would have been a good idea when this section was being mapped, but since all of it is currently based on blankets and symmetric circular patterns, turning them all into pointy sliders now would be quite disruptive and probably require a full overhaul. Will consider.
00:45:269 (1) - ^
00:33:015 (5,6) - why dont you make this play like these 00:33:860 (1,2) - 00:34:705 (4,5) - ? I didn't want to use the same pattern for the part with vocals and the part without when they're right after each other
00:36:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - these triples are clearly different in pitch. I think you should change them so they don't look the same. This applies 00:49:917 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here too I hear what you mean. Hmm I hadn't noticed that at all actually. Because of how the triples are mapped in the kiai, I'm somewhat hesitant to change this, for the sake of spacing consistency, but if it's only in this section and with those two instances, I'll consider doing something a little different here
01:21:184 (1,2) - starting 01:21:395 - there's a change in intensity in that snare, I think you should map it with something instead of having the player sit there on a reverse slider You are quite correct, shortened the slider and mapped a triple here instead so hopefully it works better
01:21:924 (4) - You should delete the note here, because i don't think there's a sound, and put a note 01:22:135 - here to make a quintuplet. Correct again, did that, adjusted the spacings a but to make it more presentable
01:23:403 (4,5,6) - no sound on any of this I hear it, it's in the build up :c
01:27:205 (2) - no sound here
01:30:586 (2) - ^
01:33:965 (2) - ^
01:41:149 (10) - ^
01:44:529 (13) - ^ About the quintuplets in the first kiai, I represented what I heard. I know it kind of sort of sounds like two triples with a 1/2 gap in between instead of a 5 note stream but I feel this pattern has a good flow with regards to representing the rhythm as well. There are some quiet drum ticks in between all the near constant triple spam that I think can be joined together without being an inaccurate representation of what's actually in the music. However, I see your point and if it's noted to be a problem by other people then I'll change it and get an appointment with an ear doctor

i guess that's it
all your other diffs look pretty solid, gl
Useful mod, it may look like I denied just about everything but you made some pretty hard-hitting points that I need to reflect on. Will probably end up changing that triple thing, if nothing else. Good catch. Appreciate the effort

Ascendance wrote:

Rank Brute Justice

StarrStyx wrote:

I'm fucking dead and tired but I promised I'd mod it so here o/

[Simon]
00:36:396 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make these triples more curved in terms of movement? current one looks weird Sure, added a bit more curve
01:09:142 (1,2,3) - imo for a pattern like this, you could consider basing your sliders around 120 degree rotations for a triangle like pattern (same goes for 00:28:579 (1,2,3,1) - actually, but that looks better than this one lol) I tried to make it work at least
01:13:156 (4,7) - ...as much as I dont oppose stacks like these when needed I feel like you can move these two apart lol Fixed this and some other ugly parts in the section
01:27:945 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ...this rotation angle kinda tilts me reduced tilt
02:08:297 (8,9) - imo you could have used a slider for this instead, since 02:08:508 (9) - has such a weak beat a circle is not the most appropriate object for it lol Dunno why I didnt think of this ages ago lol

funnily enough, contrary to arf's diff, the kiai is not mapped as well as the rest of the diff; in fact, I quite liked your structure in the first half of the map, really really big improvement since resonant heart imo
Not meme, you might as well go remap genesis since this is pretty much good enough skill lmao rank genesis Thanks for the mod and encouragement

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1. 00:25:409 - Why auto whistle?
   Additions drum finish is better?
2. 01:34:705 (1) - offscreen
3. 01:44:846 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why not make the rhythm same?
   I think the same rhythm is better
4. 01:49:494 (2,1) - stack miss

1. 00:23:719 (1,2,3) - Beginners will be very confused if a certain rhythm is broken
   00:16:959 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - It would be better to do this the same way
2. 00:54:987 (3) - I think that it will fit very well with songs by making two 1/2 sliders

1. Wow nothing

1. I think that it is consistent and very good map!

1. 00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - Players feel that it is very difficult if the beginning of the song does not shrink a little more distance
2. 00:24:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:26:043 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is this distance shrinking, unlike other streams?
3. 00:31:748 (1,1,1) - I think this is really meaningless
   Even listening to songs is not so emphasized that it will be a very uncomfortable NC

StarrStyx wrote:

I'm fucking dead and tired but I promised I'd mod it so here !simon

[Arf]
00:06:396 (5,6,7) - as much as I dont despise 45 degree angled pattern placements, this one tilts me to hell. Make it horizontal instead? it messes with the circular flow that I want to use though
00:29:424 (3) - Im not a big fan of this aesthetic, better suggestion would be to make the straight slider a wave slider as well, but flipped. because they're different speeds, I didn't want to do that
00:46:536 (5,6) - Why not repeat the sv change pattern u did for 00:44:846 (5,1) - ? Considering u did it for 00:51:607 (1,1) - 00:53:297 (1,1) - , it looks nicer to have a matching pattern those are mapped to vocals, and the vocal here is sort of....cut off. It isn't as prominent as the others imo. I'll consider though
00:54:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - I feel like you could have mapped this stream better for a more fun zigzag movement, but this works fine anyway You're probably right
00:57:945 (4,5,6,7) - This movement is really weird, yet I'm not entirely sure what I can suggest to replace it did something different here, moving the first triple away
00:59:635 (3) - may I suggest to move up to 256|78 instead? looks nicer and wont create such a sharp angled flow imo Did this, I'm not sure about making the jumps different lengths, but you're correct on the flow I suppose
01:03:226 (4,1) - imo this is a bit too far and unneeded since the song's intensity doesn't really change much. did something different here
01:09:987 (3,1) - yes same as what I said as above
01:31:959 (5,6,7) - ctrl h for aesthetics? I see your point but it kind of messes up the flow I have going. I'll see if I can work this in
01:49:283 (1,2,3) - nazi, make these align with the y axis? (2nd circle is x=255, 3rd is x=254) how the bollocks did that happen?

tbh your diff isn't "fundamentally flawed" or "obviously bad" if I were to define such a phrase, but there's just this little feeling that this map just lacks something that prevents it from being good to be honest I kind of feel the same? It's missing something and I can't put my finger on it
also the kiai is better mapped than the rest of the map whoo

Yasaija 714 wrote:

m4m Yellow

Easy

1. 00:25:409 - Why auto whistle? mistake, fixed
   Additions drum finish is better?
2. 01:34:705 (1) - offscreen Fixed and adjusted
3. 01:44:846 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why not make the rhythm same?
   I think the same rhythm is better Yeah, tried something different here but it's just weird
4. 01:49:494 (2,1) - stack miss adjusted

Normal

1. 00:23:719 (1,2,3) - Beginners will be very confused if a certain rhythm is broken
   00:16:959 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - It would be better to do this the same way that's what the Easy is for! In all seriousness, it adjusts to a slightly more complex rhythm because the BGM is more intense, so it gets a little denser while still following the guitar
2. 00:54:987 (3) - I think that it will fit very well with songs by making two 1/2 sliders I'll consider, if I can find a way to do this without having to rearrange 35/40 different things I'll do it

Hard

1. Wow nothing woo

Savage

1. 00:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5) - Players feel that it is very difficult if the beginning of the song does not shrink a little more distance considering what happens in the rest of the map, I think having this at the beginning is good, if a player can't pass this pattern the whole map is already too tough for that player I think
2. 00:24:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 00:26:043 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is this distance shrinking, unlike other streams? because the first sets of triples were mapped to the trumpet which is rising, and the other two are guitar and drum respectively, which are not as intense
3. 00:31:748 (1,1,1) - I think this is really meaningless
   Even listening to songs is not so emphasized that it will be a very uncomfortable NC not putting a new combo on slider velocity changes is worse though I think

Good luck! Appreciate the mod, good luck to you as well!

1. 00:00:903 (1) - pretty sure this has been pointed out before but yeah 00:02:592 - The recovery time here is just not enough, Generally for easy difficulties you are supposed to have 4 beats gap for recovery. Also the spinner is pretty small for beginner players. Why don't you just try a long slider with some fancy shape which you could continue till 00:03:015 - and it would still be able to follow the drums that are currently ignored
2. 00:23:719 (1) - The tail should have Drum as sample set not addition or is it on intentional
3. 00:40:621 (1) - Leaving this without any hitsound is kinda meh, Theres clearly a cymbal in the song so you can use finish or atleast a whistle. Same goes for other difficulties
4. 01:08:508 (3) - Kinda bad for emphasis to have 01:08:508 - this beat clickable but 01:09:142 - this not. The latter one is obviously much more stronger
5. 01:36:395 - Even tho the sound faints here it again starts to build up at 01:37:240 - so it would be more natural to have 01:37:663 - this beat mapped
6. 02:02:170 (2,3) - Instead of doing this rhythm do 01:58:790 (2) - this instead. It fits so much better

1. 00:03:015 - for normals you actually need 2 beats gap as recovery so yea
2. 00:40:621 (1) - Same thing is said for a pattern in easy. Try having 00:41:043 - this clickable instead of 00:40:621 - because the latter beat is much more intense

1. 01:07:346 - the sound here is so much more noticeable yet you didn't map it while you mapped 01:07:135 - 01:06:712 - Even tho the sounds on those beats don't even stand out compared to 01:07:557 -

1. 00:45:691 (1,2) - 00:46:536 (3,4) - 00:47:381 (5,6) - Not personally a fan of how almost half of the body of second slider in each pattern overlaps with the previous notes. The aesthetics here themself feel out of this map because you didn't have anything like these anywhere else in the map
2. 02:08:508 - The kick you mapped here is exactly the same as 02:06:818 - here so you could map this as well. All you need to do is simply replace 02:06:607 (7) - by a 1/2 slider
   Overall the triangular patterns like 01:04:283 (1,2,3) - are cool but sometimes the aesthetics felt rather random and messy

1. 00:53:719 (1,1) - You can actually space the circle more. The beat on 00:54:142 - is really strong while your spacing is just too small
   Not really a fan of this diff ;/

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Warpy]

1. 00:45:691 (1,2) - 00:46:536 (3,4) - 00:47:381 (5,6) - Not personally a fan of how almost half of the body of second slider in each pattern overlaps with the previous notes. The aesthetics here themself feel out of this map because you didn't have anything like these anywhere else in the map Alright enough people has complained about this by now. Added a curve to the 2nd sliders to make it less overlapped
2. 02:08:508 - The kick you mapped here is exactly the same as 02:06:818 - here so you could map this as well. All you need to do is simply replace 02:06:607 (7) - by a 1/2 slider Fair point
   Overall the triangular patterns like 01:04:283 (1,2,3) - are cool but sometimes the aesthetics felt rather random and messy I can't say I agree but I did change this particular one since its the only one in the map with red anchors that I must have missed earlier

Thanks for the mod

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[Easy]

1. 00:00:903 (1) - pretty sure this has been pointed out before but yeah 00:02:592 - The recovery time here is just not enough, Generally for easy difficulties you are supposed to have 4 beats gap for recovery. Also the spinner is pretty small for beginner players. Why don't you just try a long slider with some fancy shape which you could continue till 00:03:015 - and it would still be able to follow the drums that are currently ignored All right
2. 00:23:719 (1) - The tail should have Drum as sample set not addition or is it on intentional Yes
3. 00:40:621 (1) - Leaving this without any hitsound is kinda meh, Theres clearly a cymbal in the song so you can use finish or atleast a whistle. Same goes for other difficulties Okay
4. 01:08:508 (3) - Kinda bad for emphasis to have 01:08:508 - this beat clickable but 01:09:142 - this not. The latter one is obviously much more stronger 1/2 is a bad idea imo
5. 01:36:395 - Even tho the sound faints here it again starts to build up at 01:37:240 - so it would be more natural to have 01:37:663 - this beat mapped Yes, i agree
6. 02:02:170 (2,3) - Instead of doing this rhythm do 01:58:790 (2) - this instead. It fits so much better Okay

[Normal]

1. 00:03:015 - for normals you actually need 2 beats gap as recovery so yea Tried making the spinner a bit shorter
2. 00:40:621 (1) - Same thing is said for a pattern in easy. Try having 00:41:043 - this clickable instead of 00:40:621 - because the latter beat is much more intense I do see your point but because of how the rhythm in this section has worked so far, with the vocal in focus, I can't find a pattern that is difficulty appropriate and leaves the last note clickable without sacrificing that long slider that the rhythm is based on.

[Hard]

1. 01:07:346 - the sound here is so much more noticeable yet you didn't map it while you mapped 01:07:135 - 01:06:712 - Even tho the sounds on those beats don't even stand out compared to 01:07:557 - I didn't map the background trumpet stream in any of the difficulties since it broke rhythm consistency

[Savage]

1. 00:53:719 (1,1) - You can actually space the circle more. The beat on 00:54:142 - is really strong while your spacing is just too small Kinda moved it a little, not too much really
   Not really a fan of this diff ;/ You're not the only one, evidently :c

Good luck Thanks for the mod

Mentai wrote:

you really think a8s was the hardest? i still think a3s or t7s pre-nerf was the hardest (mostly because gear-gating tho). brute justice is indeed the most fun i think

also pls let me know if you're gonna map anymore ffxiv stuff because id love to gd

squirrelpascals wrote:

warpy

• 00:23:085 - sounds like the stream should start here instead It's fine like this

• 00:34:283 (3,4,5) - would feel nicer to play if you put more of an angle here Changed it so there's a sharper angle

• 00:44:001 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Your combo lengths are kinda random here. Make them more consistent in someway, consider downbeats such as 00:47:381 (5) - While it wasn't random but rather based on the patterns I guess I'll change it to keep it consistent with the rest of the map even though I wouldn't consider it a big deal

• 01:03:438 (3,4,5) - same as 00:23:085 - Sounds good to me

• 01:11:043 (1,2,3) - a triple feels overmapped here, don't hear anything on 01:11:149 - If you listen closely enough there's a trumpet sound there, while it may be low I think it works

• 01:18:227 (4,5,6,7) - i see the structure your using here, but the slider direction really throws off the symmetry aesthetic While I agree that it doesn't look as good as it could I'd rather not make any radical changes at this point, if it becomes an issue I'll have a go at changing it

• 01:55:409 (1) - the wave look suneven here xp Yeah it was also real ugly

• 01:56:783 - also sounds overmapped, I see what you mean here but I think it works well with the song, I'll change it if needed though

• 01:58:367 (11) - nc here instead, downbeat xd Feels stupid to NC before the 'pause' but to be honest I'm not that experienced with NCing so I might change it after I ask some people

i feel like the larger jumps like 02:09:776 (6,7) - and 01:54:565 (7,8,9) - cause a large diff spike in general, even if they dont affect the sr much
It's the climax of the song and tbh with the low bpm they aren't even very hard. I'd say for a player that's skilled enough to fc the rest of the diff (constant triples etc) should be able to hit the jumps without a problem

Thanks for the mod

squirrelpascals wrote:

Hi, sorry this is later than i thought it would be Hello

savage

• 00:05:868 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - not a fan of how you keep using this same space in the playfeild, it makes the map feel constricted That's only about 4 seconds of mapping though :c it isn't that clustered I don't think

• 00:13:579 (1,2,3) - this rhythm feels strange to the music because 1,2 is mapped to trumpet while 3 is mapped to the more subtle bass note, inconsistency in the instruments you map to makes rhythm choices feel less applicable to the song. similar concept in 00:14:212 (5,6,7) - No...? The trumpet is a triple in the song I'm pretty sure

• 00:17:276 (2) - feels overmapped, also for 00:20:656 (2) - which isnt as bad but the sound here is quiet. same thing at 01:06:607 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - The last example I can see the point a little as the guitar is quiet but in the other two there's a pretty obvious triple sound in the guitar isn't there?

• 00:26:466 (6,7,8) - would be better if you mapped this to 00:26:783 - instead imo, sound is more noticable there Don't really want to follow an extraneous background trumpet instead of the main established rhythm here but I'll consider it

• 00:28:579 (1,2,3) - pretty unexpected sv change, can you make something stand out about this so that this is easier to read the NC, different slider shape, and spacing should be enough for a 5*, even if it's somewhat difficult to sightread you wouldn't mess it up a second time.

• 00:30:163 (2,3,4) - sounds more like one continuous sound rather than a stream. the way you mapped it at 01:10:674 (2) - is better Yes all right, I agree

• 01:10:674 (2) - should make this clickable on the white tick instead, more noticable beat there to click to I don't really hear a sound there....

• 01:23:191 (2,3,4,5,6) - also feels kind of overmapped, stream sounds like it truly starts at 01:23:719 (7,8,9,10) - I can understand why it kinda sounds that way but there's drums in those first five notes. The last 4 were originally spaced out more (think Priti style) to differentiate the different sounds they follow, aka the trumpet, but that just created a massive massive spike that had no business being there

• 01:24:881 (2) - 01:27:205 (2) - 01:30:586 (2) - A lot of the sounds you choose to map streams/triples to are super subtle/nonexistent and wont be noticable in the music to a player without really sharp headphones or with hitsounds enabled. Also regarding the kiai in general, these spaced movements like as 01:33:227 (5,6,7) - feel too intense over the quiet sounds you are mapping to (even though its a theme you use in the map). Reduced movement here (01:35:762 (1,2,3) - ) feels less overdone on quiet beats I guess I'll take this point by point. The overmapping, as you call it, in those three examples the first one is I think out of place, there's clear trumpet noises there (admittedly they're somewhat quieter than the other instances of the same sound but they're still pretty obvious I think). As for the other two, the general idea of quints in the kiai follows sounds that are emphasized by the hitsounds,
as you noticed. If someone has hitsounds turned off and is using speakers to play the game or something I guess they might find it strange that they're not triples, but the drum pattern which the quints follow should not pose as difficult to understand for anyone capable of playing a 5* map. I don't think the drums are subtle enough to pose a problem, maybe it's because I have heard it a million times. As for spaced movements, it's the kiai, the song is in full crescendo mode, instruments are going bananas in the background, so the spaced movements should be perfectly fine, the build up to this point should be enough preparation for the madness of the song's final section. Also, each spaced pattern (from the examples given) is followed up by a stack or a pattern requiring less movement for a combination of emphasis and rest, at least up until the final kiai, where the song just explodes even more.

• 01:56:677 (1,2) - sounds like circle 2 shouldnt be there, i only hear 01:56:677 - in the music The drums here are doubles from what I hear

hard

• 00:48:438 (5) - feels pointed in a random direction, adding some sort of structure with 00:47:593 (2) - or pointed more toward 00:48:860 (6) - would make this look nice Adjusted slightly to point more at 6

• 00:55:621 (8,1) - the largest jump in the map by a lot, you normally like half this distance. pls nerf xpp Yeah I didn't like this jump either, adjusted.

• 01:03:860 (5,6) - i think a triple would work well here, because the note at 01:04:071 - doesnt stand out much from the notes at 01:03:966 - 01:04:177 - Agreed

• 01:36:818 (2,4) - space these, looks like an unintentional overlap Yes

• 01:39:142 (4,5,6) - triple sounds overmapped follows the drum like all the others, it's even hitsounded as such :c

• 01:53:931 (3,4,5,6,7) - surprised you didn't use bigger spacing here to exaggerate this buildup Tried something, will probably adjust later

normal

• 01:39:142 (3,4) - slider would feel better for this because it would feel consistently mapped to vocals with 01:38:719 (2) - Okay, done

• 02:02:381 (2,3) - a ctrl+g for rhythm to go with the vocals would feel better here, because this part before also goes to vocals 01:59:001 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - key concept for normal players so that the rhythm is more straightforward and less complex Sure, done

ez

• 00:00:902 (2) - can you add more points to this slider to make it more evenly curved, the sharpness is more noticable cuz the slider is huge I think it's fine? Not sure what you meant to be honest, I was going for a sickle slider

• 01:24:565 (1) - move a tiny bit to right to fix blanket Adjusted

• 01:31:325 (1,4) - the way these overlap doesn't feel structured because of how differently these sliders are angled, even if the first slider is already fading out might consider changing but I'm not too bothered about this I'll be honest

I like how different the top diff is from traditional maps you usually see nowadays. I feel like the rhythm is a but overdone though, so I'm going to have to pass on a bubble for now. Good luck though!
Thanks for the mod
map isn't really anything out of the ordinary though, at least I don't think so

-Mo- wrote:

I don't care what you say, I am abbreviating this map to BJ. Can you not!

Easy
- Main thing I don't like is how some parts feel repetitive and mundane from the constant 1/1 rhythm. Easy diffs need to burn.
- 00:00:902 (2) - The shape could do with smoothing out a bit I think, specifically the top part Okay since everyone thinks my sickle is ugly

- 00:04:705 (2) - I think removing this would be kinda cool, so there's a distinguishable difference between this combo and the next one where drums are more active. I personally don't think anyone playing this as an Easy would be able to distinguish the cadence of the percussion here versus simply listening to the main melody of the trumpets.
- 00:40:621 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is one combo I would try to change to be different, since it's kind of like a 'finale' to the section. It feels too similar to the previous combos so far in my opinion. First suggestion would be changing 00:41:043 (2) to a reverse to match the trumpets playing the same notes. Could also change 00:42:311 (3) to circles to make the section slightly more click intensive. Yes I like this idea
- 01:19:494 (4,5,6) - Would've liked to see some sort of symmetry pattern continuing, since you did it for the previous two combos. I caaaan't ;_;
- 01:24:565 (1) - Using reverses here makes this section feel too similar to the section from 00:44:001. Suggestion would be to change one of the sections to use 2/1 sliders instead so there's more variety to distinguish the sections. But the previous section only had 2 reverse sliders :c
- These two kiai sections is basically repeating the same rhythm again and again until the end, which I guess is what the song does, but I still feel like some sort of variety could be added so it doesn't get too mundane. I have zero clue how to differentiate these while using only 1/1s. I tried, believe it or not, but to follow the song in the best way that I could while using only 1/1s, it ended up, well. This is why Easy diffs need to die
- 01:55:410 (2,3) - Rhythm seems inconsistent with how you mapped these sounds elsewhere. Would make more sense if you at least repeated this later. Good point, why did I do that here anyway
- 01:55:832 (3,4) - Would be nice to see these sliders be the same shape. Did something different here
- 02:01:748 (1,2) - Flow is kinda inconsistent with how you mapped these rhythms previously, since you used smoother flow before whereas here it's sharp.Changed to be more ugly

Normal
- This diff feels a lot better to play to me comparatively. Yes
- 00:14:846 (3) - Regular curve will bit better here to transition into the blanket thing to me. Yes it will
- 00:21:818 (4) - Personal choice would've been to place this at (221, 230). Overlap thing isn't really noticable to me, and current position has issues with visual flow between 00:21:818 (4,1) and that I don't think the wide circular flow really fits. Sure, all right
- 00:25:198 - I would aim to make this beat clickable, since it's clickable everywhere else and it's a distinct enough sound that it feels weird when you suddenly made it passive. Okay, done
- 00:33:860 (1,3) - Coupling thing could be applied here too. Did this
- 00:37:240 (1) - I guess here too if you wanted. Yeah all right did that too

- 00:39:564 (2) - It didn't seem clear to me at first that you were following the vocals, since you had to simplify the rhythm so much it felt like you were following guitar. I'd say you should stick to guitar rhythms, since the vocals aren't too prominent and it feels weird to play this rhythm when it feels like you're not playing vocals. It acts a bit like a finale before the trumpets so I tried to differentiate it, especially since there's stronger drums here
- 00:40:621 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I would've tried to make a pattern out of sharper angles rather than a smooth flow so it reflects the stronger impacts on each sound. Aaaaah you have a point, but making the sharp flow noticeable without redoing the whole section is killer
- 01:02:381 - rip hitsound Stupid hitsounds
- 01:46:114 (3) - Random linear bend slider in the middle of a bunch of curved sliders seems weird. Why is this here?
- 01:59:846 (1,2,3) - Pattern symmetry could be improved, start by moving 2 up a bit. Okie dokes

- 02:04:071 (4) - Nazi blanket thing, just doesn't look right at the moment. Might be worth using two anchors for the curve. Tried my best

- 02:08:931 (1,2,3,4,5) - Would be better if the finale wasn't confined to a corner I think. Easy fix is moving the entire combo so that 1 starts at (143, 42). All righty then

Hard
- 00:13:579 (1,2,3,4) - Simialr to Easy, would've liked the see the symmetry theme continue, more specifically havin the pattern be in the centre of the field rather than off to the side. I get what you're saying, I do, but I can't make this work at the moment I'll try to find some way to shuffle things around but for now I'm leaving it be
- 01:21:395 (2,4) - Using 5-note sliders here seems too unexpected for the player since you've used only 3-note sliders until now (expect that first slider but that doesn't count). I think it's better to keep these as 3-note sliders and base your rhythm around that. Applies to future ones too. Okay,
did something different with all of these
- 01:29:635 to 01:41:254 - lol https://puu.sh/yxThK.jpg How does one notice these things
- 02:08:931 (1,2,3,4,5) - Finale thing like in Normal. Adjusted

Kind
So the style is fine, but I do have suggestions on how to improve it. I think since those spaced stream things are pretty unforgiving to hit already, I would aim to make them as smooth for the player as possible while keeping them spaced. Stuff like keeping their shapes simple and their entry paths sharp to favour sharp movements.
- 00:14:001 (4,5,6,7) - Stuff like this is trickier to play since the player has to slow down their cursor speed but still move in roughly the same direction as they reach 5, which is harder to control (https://puu.sh/yxWl0.jpg).
- 00:49:494 (10,1,2,3) - This is more giving to play since the player is able to snap to 1 and move in roughly the opposite direction, which is easier to handle (https://puu.sh/yxWpM.jpg), though note that 00:50:128 (3,4,5,6) is awkward again.

Well, we've discussed this since you wrote this, and I changed that one vertical triple we talked about which was on the same line as the previous note, and based on what we discussed for each of the other triples, well, I'm not sure. I feel like the linear aspect of the pattern makes the momentum seem more unbalanced than it is, particularly if the player isn't used to playing linear patterns, since maps don't really utilize that anymore. At a 5* level though, I think making everything comfortable isn't really what you want, if you're trying to make something interesting. My belief is that the motion between the triples helps to emphasize the trumpets even more, while making it so the player has to actually be precise to hit the notes, which shouldn't be too bad considering the spaced streams later on.
- 00:54:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think these S-bend kind of things should be replaced with just a single curve or a straight line, so that the player only has to control one movement through the stream, which is easier. I think it fits the noises of the trumpets better to have it be a toilet

- 00:31:747 (1) - Nice snapping. Fixed
- 00:42:945 (10,1,2,3,4) - So I have two suggestions you could do here. First one would be moving 00:43:156 (1,2,3,4) to (465, 305) so that it makes part of the linear patter at the end of the previous combo. Second suggestion would be moving 00:42:945 (10) upward so that there's an upward zig-zag motion between 00:42:734 (9,10,1) to emphasise the end of this section better. Moved 10 up
- 01:21:184 (1) - Might be better to put this on the other side of the triple, since the slider ends on the opposite side of the head. Ehhh I think this should be fine since it's just a bzzt slider
- 01:23:191 (2) - Could be removed to nerf the stream to be easier slightly. but the drums >.<
- 01:23:297 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Also as a nazi, this stream shape isn't really as circular as it could be. Indeed it is not
- 01:24:565 (1,2,3) - Usually you have your spaced triple thing on starting on the downbeat rather than after a slider. You are correct
- 01:47:381 (5,6,7) - Would be smoother like this I think: Indeed it would

- 02:09:776 (5,6) - Could avoid the overlap. Okay

Rhythm seems mostly fine to me, and outside of the spaced stream stuff I can only spot minor issues.

I still do think the mapset can be improved a fair bit before considering it for qualify, mostly for the upper diff to be less unforgiving, and the lower diffs to be less mundane and repetitive. Easy diffs still need to burn . There's only so much you can do with 1/1.... As for the other diffs, well we've done what we can based on how we want the map to look and play. If it's not good enough then well.....I don't want to remap this anymore, and if it's not enough I suppose it's not enough. I'd like to think it's as ready as it'll ever be in its current state. Could it be better if remapped, maybe. But I can't see myself making something more interesting than this even with whatever skills I may or may not have picked up since last year. Hopefully I made sense on some level instead of looking like a stubborn idiot, but that's for you to decide.

Oh and I still think the red line is shit. I can change this if you really really want.......

-Mo- wrote:

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- 00:06:712 (8) - Extending this to a stream does seem unnecessary, since it would make more sense to follow the trumpet beats with just a triple, and the sounds are getting quieter so there isn't any tension build up to justify a stream. k
- 00:07:663 (4,5) - Larger spacing here isn't needed since there isn't a trumpet sound to support it. yeh
- 00:09:142 (1) - Might as well Ctrl+G so it faces the previous/next object. sure
- 00:29:635 (1) - Flipping this so the bend goes in the other direction would be cooler to me I think. I prefer it like this
- 00:35:339 (1,2) - Tail overlaps like this are kind of meh I think. I would try to avoid it. Tried to fix it at least
- 00:44:001 to 00:53:930 - Repeating the same 3/4-1/2 slider rhythm gets old very quickly. This definitely needs changing to something more interesting. changed to make it a bit less stale
- 01:23:719 (5,6,7,8) - Vertical flipping this would match the rest of the combo better, where you have to change direction after you reach the object. sure

- 02:00:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Would've prefered to see the circular flow move in the opposite direction since it was like this before. why not