Thanks for the mod!Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
- 00:01:057 (1,2) - this doesn't fit the song rhythm that well, because the slider tail of 1 should be click'able as you did with 00:00:626 (4,2) - , I'd do 2 1/4 sliders or a circle and a 1/4 slider
While yes, it seems the sliderend should be clickable, I don't highlight the same sound here (consider the slider following at 00:01:402 (1) - , 00:01:919 (2) - ). I feel the current pattern fits the song better since this sound fades away during the intro segment.
- 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - the stream fails to represent the song properly, use something similar at what the top diff do
- 00:18:471 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - same, mapping every sound don't let you represent the song properly, doing sliders as you did before would bring emphasis to right beats at this section
- 00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action
- 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - same issue, mapping the full stream kills the emphasis of the strong beats, maybe do something as the top diff do?
- 00:40:712 (3,4,1) - why the spacing is that different, I get that you want to bring more spacing to 4, but 4 to 1 is super short xd
- 00:57:609 (1) - the tail of the slider is the start of a new melody and needs to be clic'able, use a 1/4 slider and then circles
- 01:03:299 (2) - same as above
- 01:08:816 (1) - unnecessary NC
- 01:16:230 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - all the streams at this section needs more volume
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[General :]
- 00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point.
- 00:01:057 (2,1) - Overlap and proximity could be a bit messy for a newbie, would move it at 120:148.
- 00:02:609 (1) - Make it start at 00:02:436 - . The sound on it is maybe weaker than 00:02:609 - but still player will expect to play it and also avoid a polarity issues by not respecting the 1/1 gap. Also end it on 00:02:781 - and make 00:03:126 - playable would be nice since it's such a strong beat.
- 00:29:333 (3,1) - The small overlap triggers me.
- 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - High density patterns should be avoided, they're just a pain to be read easiely. Simplify structure a bit to make it more readable.
- 01:37:609 (2,4) - Other overlap z.
- 01:51:402 (1) - Tbh this NC alone make no sense with rest of your pattern.
- 00:23:816 (3) - NC is not necessary if you want to keep like how you did them before.
- 00:57:609 (2,3) - I would avoid the stack to make sure arrow is readable. Right now it's too hidden behind the circle.
- 01:04:333 (2,3,4) - Use simple stack pls, that's not an Insane and could be a bit disturbing.
- 01:07:781 (1,1) - Spacing is too low and don't give the good visual rhythm from it. Also once again, reverse arrow is not much visible with 01:08:385 (6,7) - .
- 01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of pattern is a big no. Clearly a pattern you would see more on an Insane or above, but the reading is not the best and playability too edgy for that diff. Also nothing on the song call for 01:31:402 (1,2) - being stacked. Simple stack or small burst like https://puu.sh/xpYvO/44cc236e40.png would definitly be better.
- 00:57:781 (3,4,5) - Unstack them, the 1st of them is really hard to catch correctly due to it and lead to a easy unwanted break. Just space them a bit is enough.
- 00:35:540 (2) - / 01:08:471 (7) - / 01:18:988 (1,2) - / 01:52:954 (3) - and more if I forgot some -> Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
- 00:43:471 (3,4,5) - I would expect them straight after the slider and not a bit on the side of it to make like between 00:42:954 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/xpZmV/9fa948f7ee.png .
- 00:46:403 (3,4) - Could they have the same shape than 00:45:884 (1,2) - ? Would be more clean visually https://puu.sh/xpZp4/057a191eda.png .
- 01:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Why spacing between both is so different ? 01:03:816 (1,2,3) - and 01:04:505 (3,4,5) - sounds the same but are done differently and make it weird. Would rather use a coherent one who respect same song part or a consistent spacing for both.
- 01:18:988 (1,2,3) - / 01:52:954 (2) - Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
- First, I agree with Natsu about stuff like 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - / 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - / etc who don't provide a correct feedback of what the song offer. Ignoring these strong sounds for background one is confusing and sounds a bit off, and make your diff more flat since you're using too often these kind of structure.
- Second, on kiai I don't see the point of doing jump streams on 1st half if you just don't on the 2nd half. I would rather do all of them without and just play with spacing like you did from 01:31:402 - . There's no major differences to make a such change.
- 00:01:919 (1,2,3) - I would stack them to create a similar effect like 00:02:436 (1,2,3) - who share the same kind of sound, also represent more the rhythm you used here -> https://puu.sh/xq0Nk/a3f88d0ea3.png .
00:05:195 (1,2,1,2) - If I believe what you answered to Natsu, then why spacing is different from stuff like 00:10:712 (1,2,3,4) - who share exactly the same rhythm and music ? They should yes. - 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - Natsu means the curve could be a bit better, the angle you did with 00:32:436 (3,4) - is a bit broken and could be more smooth.
- 01:31:057 (1,2,3) - Imo that's a bit overkill for a 1/4. The back and forth create a non intuitive pattern to follow unlike stuff like 01:42:092 (1,2,3) - .
Mukyu~
Thanks for modding!Nozhomi wrote:
[notice][General :]
- 00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point. -
Removed.
[CXu's monogon :]
- 00:01:057 (2,1) - Overlap and proximity could be a bit messy for a newbie, would move it at 120:148. - Eh, the new combo and general order of fade in should be decent enough indicators even for a new player imo. While it is the easiest difficulty, it's also not exactly mapped for a complete beginner.
- 00:02:609 (1) - Make it start at 00:02:436 - . The sound on it is maybe weaker than 00:02:609 - but still player will expect to play it and also avoid a polarity issues by not respecting the 1/1 gap. Also end it on 00:02:781 - and make 00:03:126 - playable would be nice since it's such a strong beat. - You can actually hit the sliderhead at a 1/1 timing and not sliderbreak due to the low OD here, so I don't see it as much of a problem. The map also features polarity changes (albeit not a lot) later on, so introducing it early seems like a good idea to me. As for the stronger beat at the sliderend, it might just be my opinion on it, but combinations of hitsounds and length of sliders can still make a sliderend (and then the release of a note) feel more important than the head. Maybe it's a bit more old school interpretation as it definitely was more common to do it back in the days compared to now, but yeah, I personally never had a problem with it.
- 00:29:333 (3,1) - The small overlap triggers me. - lmao fixed.
- 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - High density patterns should be avoided, they're just a pain to be read easiely. Simplify structure a bit to make it more readable.
- If you mean rhythmically dense, then I think it's simple enough and I also repeat the same rhythm several times through the kiai. If you mean just the way things overlap/stack, then I can fix that. Tell me if that's what you meant.- 01:37:609 (2,4) - Other overlap z. - Can't really avoid it due to spacing, and spacing this part different would look out of place compared to the other patterns.
- 01:51:402 (1) - Tbh this NC alone make no sense with rest of your pattern. - Eh it's just for aesthetic reasons to not make a pentagon have 6 notes in it,
and it's also isolated from the previous patterns by being in the middle.
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@CXu
- 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - Was talking about the pattern, not the rhythm :>
- Also about 00:02:609 (1) - low OD is not really the point to know if it's k or not, also imo it makes more sense because it would cover all the sound of that small section and not ignoring the one at 00:02:436 - . A really newbie will also expect a 1/1 because it's more a simple rhythm to catch on that point of the song (it's a quite calm section after all).
Nozhomi wrote:
@CXu
- 01:32:781 (3,4,5,1,2) - Was talking about the pattern, not the rhythm :> - Alright, rearranged the pattern, hopefully better now!
- Also about 00:02:609 (1) - low OD is not really the point to know if it's k or not, also imo it makes more sense because it would cover all the sound of that small section and not ignoring the one at 00:02:436 - . A really newbie will also expect a 1/1 because it's more a simple rhythm to catch on that point of the song (it's a quite calm section after all). - My point with the OD is that even if a new player does misread the section, it's not a mistake that will be punished in any special way, but it will give information as to how these rhythms work later in the map. I also think the sound I follow on the sliderhead is much more important than the fairly inaudible (comparatively) sound on the white tick.
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Thanks for the mod!Nozhomi wrote:
[-PC's hexagon :]
- First, I agree with Natsu about stuff like 00:12:781 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - / 00:34:850 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - / etc who don't provide a correct feedback of what the song offer. Ignoring these strong sounds for background one is confusing and sounds a bit off, and make your diff more flat since you're using too often these kind of structure.
As for the etc bit: unless you specifically note what you mean here, I can't change anything.- Second, on kiai I don't see the point of doing jump streams on 1st half if you just don't on the 2nd half. I would rather do all of them without and just play with spacing like you did from 01:31:402 - . There's no major differences to make a such change.
.osu (fixed hitsounds at 00:18:299 (1,2,3,4) - )
Topic Starter
Nozhomi wrote:
[General :][digon :]
- 00:00:368 - Remove this greenline of diff you don't change SV with. And if you use SV change put same volume on both timing and inherited point.okay
[trigon :]
- 00:23:816 (3) - NC is not necessary if you want to keep like how you did them before.
removed NC[tetragon :]
- 00:57:609 (2,3) - I would avoid the stack to make sure arrow is readable. Right now it's too hidden behind the circle.
moved a bit so that the arrow isnt hidden- 01:04:333 (2,3,4) - Use simple stack pls, that's not an Insane and could be a bit disturbing.
fixed- 01:07:781 (1,1) - Spacing is too low and don't give the good visual rhythm from it. Also once again, reverse arrow is not much visible with 01:08:385 (6,7) - .
Made a change that should be acceptable- 01:31:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This kind of pattern is a big no. Clearly a pattern you would see more on an Insane or above, but the reading is not the best and playability too edgy for that diff. Also nothing on the song call for 01:31:402 (1,2) - being stacked. Simple stack or small burst like https://puu.sh/xpYvO/44cc236e40.png would definitly be better.
I would disagree that the song doesnt call for it as the first two sounds are higher(and the same) pitch, but then again I guess this kind of thing might be a bit too much for a hard diff.. even tho I'd really like to keep it.[heptagon :]
- 00:57:781 (3,4,5) - Unstack them, the 1st of them is really hard to catch correctly due to it and lead to a easy unwanted break. Just space them a bit is enough.
ok- 00:35:540 (2) - / 01:08:471 (7) - / 01:18:988 (1,2) - / 01:52:954 (3) - and more if I forgot some -> Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
I get your point but on 01:18:988 (1,2) - I'll only make the second one have a 1/4 gap as the distance between the first and the second is basically nothing. Having it repeat fully shouldnt be a gameplay issue at all.Mukyu~
- 00:01:919 (1,2,3) - I would stack them to create a similar effect like 00:02:436 (1,2,3) - who share the same kind of sound, also represent more the rhythm you used here -> https://puu.sh/xq0Nk/a3f88d0ea3.png .
First off, I'd say those two triples dont share similar sound at all. the first has one distinct sound with for each hit, kind of a high pitch tap(idk),
while the other is nothing like it at all, so spacing them out would make more sense to me. also the pattern as a whole kind of foreshadows these: 00:52:436 (2,1,2,1) - 00:56:574 (5,1,2,3) - . Even so I think I'm gonna change to your suggestion just cause it plays a lot better and doesnt catch the player off guard as much as the inital pattern does.
00:05:195 (1,2,1,2) - If I believe what you answered to Natsu, then why spacing is different from stuff like 00:10:712 (1,2,3,4) - who share exactly the same rhythm and music ? They should yes.
If you take into account how you actually play those patterns, they don't play much differently at all. very minor movement with a jump to the last note.- 00:32:264 (1,2,3,4) - Natsu means the curve could be a bit better, the angle you did with 00:32:436 (3,4) - is a bit broken and could be more smooth.
clarified in pm. changed it a tiny bit- 01:31:057 (1,2,3) - Imo that's a bit overkill for a 1/4. The back and forth create a non intuitive pattern to follow unlike stuff like 01:42:092 (1,2,3) - .
I feel like a back and forth movement really fits the music here, but I changed up the pattern a bit so that the spacing isn't as crazy. generally the first 2 notes in a 1/4 jump like this is much easier to hit than the 3rd, so I feel like this should be a decent compromise
Nozhomi wrote:
[-GN's pentagon :]sebu sucks
- 00:43:471 (3,4,5) - I would expect them straight after the slider and not a bit on the side of it to make like between 00:42:954 (1,2) - https://puu.sh/xpZmV/9fa948f7ee.png .
- 00:46:403 (3,4) - Could they have the same shape than 00:45:884 (1,2) - ? Would be more clean visually https://puu.sh/xpZp4/057a191eda.png .
- 01:03:816 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Why spacing between both is so different ? 01:03:816 (1,2,3) - and 01:04:505 (3,4,5) - sounds the same but are done differently and make it weird. Would rather use a coherent one who respect same song part or a consistent spacing for both.
- 01:18:988 (1,2,3) - / 01:52:954 (2) - Buzz sliders should have appropriate delay before the next note. 1/8 and 1/16 sliders should be followed by a 1/4 gap, whereas 1/12 sliders should be followed by a 1/6 gap. This ensures that the hit-window between hit objects is playable.
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78,223,105109,2,0,L|8:195,1,54.5999983337403,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
143,142,105368,2,0,L|113:84,1,54.5999983337403,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
245,121,105626,2,0,L|255:59,1,54.5999983337403,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,171,105885,2,0,L|383:134,2,54.5999983337403,0|0|2,3:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,301,106230,6,0,L|261:286,1,54.5999983337403,8|2,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,357,106488,1,2,0:0:0:0:
111,347,106574,2,0,B|37:331|37:331|14:299,1,109.199996667481,0|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
147,221,106919,2,0,B|220:236|220:236|243:268,1,109.199996667481,8|2,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
347,341,107264,5,0,3:0:0:0:
394,354,107350,1,8,0:1:0:0:
439,336,107436,1,2,0:0:0:0:
486,213,107609,2,0,L|397:249,1,54.5999983337403,8|2,3:1|0:0,0:0:0:0:
311,189,107868,6,0,B|242:165|242:165|196:163,1,109.199996667481,2|2,3:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,151,108126,1,2,0:0:0:0:
131,151,108212,1,2,0:0:0:0:
104,151,108298,1,8,3:1:0:0:
16,247,108470,1,2,0:0:0:0:
147,247,108643,1,0,3:0:0:0:
174,247,108729,1,0,0:0:0:0:
201,247,108816,2,0,B|277:274|277:274|336:275,1,109.199996667481,2|8,0:0|3:1,0:0:0:0:
350,260,109074,1,2,0:0:0:0:
457,335,109247,1,2,3:2:0:0:
300,356,109419,5,2,0:0:0:0:
274,361,109505,1,2,0:0:0:0:
247,366,109591,1,2,0:0:0:0:
220,371,109678,1,8,3:1:0:0:
90,384,109850,1,2,0:0:0:0:
2,285,110023,1,0,3:0:0:0:
29,280,110110,1,0,0:0:0:0:
56,275,110195,2,0,B|124:259|124:259|158:229,1,109.199996667481,2|8,0:0|3:1,0:0:0:0:
202,223,110453,1,2,0:0:0:0:
221,100,110626,5,2,0:0:0:0:
259,105,110712,2,0,B|295:91|295:91|365:99,1,109.199996667481,0|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,130,111057,1,8,3:1:0:0:
508,243,111230,1,2,0:0:0:0:
428,330,111402,1,0,3:0:0:0:
314,296,111574,1,2,0:0:0:0:
278,190,111747,1,8,3:1:0:0:
299,186,111833,2,0,B|357:192|357:192|398:221,1,109.199996667481,2|2,0:0|3:2,0:0:0:0:
435,254,112091,5,4,3:2:0:0:
172,244,112350,1,8,3:1:0:0:
302,23,112609,1,0,3:0:0:0:
305,208,112781,5,0,0:0:0:0:
155,142,112954,2,0,L|114:140,3,27.2999991668701,0|0|0|0,1:0|1:0|1:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
184,113,113126,2,0,L|244:116,1,54.5999983337403,8|0,3:1|1:0,0:0:0:0:
403,125,113385,1,2,1:0:0:0:
Trigon : 00:57:781 (3) - still not visible enough, also it's weird to stack this 1/2 after you did a huge spacing for the same gap for 00:57:436 (1,2) - .
Also try to see with Natsu is everything is clean before next step.
Also try to see with Natsu is everything is clean before next step.
Topic Starter
fixed thisNozhomi wrote:
Trigon : 00:57:781 (3) - still not visible enough, also it's weird to stack this 1/2 after you did a huge spacing for the same gap for 00:57:436 (1,2) - .
-PC wrote:
Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
- 00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action
-PC
- 00:04:161 (3,4,5,6) - the 4 beats stream sounds bad, since the music is suggesting you to bring click actions to only two of them 00:04:161 (3,5) - , check the top diff and listen how better the two 1/4 sliders sounds compared to your stream and tbh it's weird that you mapped a similar rhythm in a more properly way at 00:06:919 (3,4) - and we aren't talking about spacing, but rhythm
Thanks!Natsu wrote:
-PC's hexagon
- 00:23:643 (3) - mapping the slider tail at such important beat as the stanza don't fit the song, since that beat is the start of the new section section and it needs a click action
-PC
- 00:04:161 (3,4,5,6) - the 4 beats stream sounds bad, since the music is suggesting you to bring click actions to only two of them 00:04:161 (3,5) - , check the top diff and listen how better the two 1/4 sliders sounds compared to your stream and tbh it's weird that you mapped a similar rhythm in a more properly way at 00:06:919 (3,4) - and we aren't talking about spacing, but rhythm
Okay since Natsu is k with that, let's go~
Actually why is this even in WIP and not pending xd
nice, gratz!
01:05:884 (4) - unsnapped tail (trigon)
call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify
call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify
Topic Starter
well, thats kinda gay rip, will call u guys asapNatsu wrote:
01:05:884 (4) - unsnapped tail (trigon)
call nozhomi for rebub and then call me for qualify
In geometry a monogon is a polygon with one edge and one vertex. It has Schläfli symbol. Since a monogon has only one side and only one vertex, every monogon is regular by definition.
Back~
Back~
btw Your title and name color are nice, Natsu Nozhomi!
thanksEnon wrote:
btw Your title and name color are nice, Natsu Nozhomi!
I request royalties on thisArutsuki wrote:
Isn't a monogon just a straight line...
anyway congrats on qual
Congrats!
Grats!!!
Finally, conGeeZ sebu D:
interesting map
but nc use is just like, ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
but nc use is just like, ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
im not sure why unicode artist is 日本原声带, which is not even related to Sota Fujimori
http://www.konamistyle.jp/sp/jubeat_copious/index.html
http://www.konamistyle.jp/sp/jubeat_copious/index.html
disqualify to fix unicode artist
Topic Starter
report _vu69 for giving me mp3 that autofilled unicode artist 1.5 years ago 
ok back
the highest diff is masterpiece. really well done i love it
didnt really check the mods from before to see if this was already denied but
00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.
00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.
Topic Starter
The sound(or similar sounds) is often on yellow ticks(1/8ths) and switches between this, blues, reds and whites. so instead of just focusing on mapping each clickable object to it, it's more in the movement of sliders that represents the rhythm. example: 00:51:186 - 00:48:428 - . as you can see both of these have basically non-existent movement, while the one u pointed out 00:52:178 - has a lot higher pitch, hence the increased sv.ProEzreal wrote:
didnt really check the mods from before to see if this was already denied but
00:52:092 (1) - i can hear a distinct sound on 00:52:178 - but im not sure why you decided not to map it.
I mapped the section in a consistent way to make it easier to play while still trying to represent the variety in the song appropriately
This is amazing
This map is fucking brilliant man holy shit