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Camellia feat. Nanahira - Bassdrop Freaks (Long Ver.) [Taiko

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Kin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on mercredi 30 août 2017 at 21:57:35

Artist: Camellia feat. Nanahira
Title: Bassdrop Freaks (Long Ver.)
Source: beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL
Tags: A-STYLE A STYLE DRUMSTEP Meltical sugar wave EXIT TUNES
BPM: 179
Filesize: 9247kb
Play Time: 05:05
Difficulties Available:
  1. Drumstep Freaks (7,4 stars, 2247 notes)
Download: Camellia feat. Nanahira - Bassdrop Freaks (Long Ver.)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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mp3 from: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/463479
Finally done!
Some technical mapping & mostly SV gimmick try!

source:

https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/2dx/22/p/n ... reaks.html from official konami website: http://www.konami.jp/bemani/bm2dx/
http://nanahira.extsm.com/
http://www.konamistyle.jp/item/73182?cm ... lsugerwave
Surono

PoNo
Hey SALUzz

Bassdrop Freaks
02:27:546 - 02:32:909 - wow, cette SV est hyper rapide, tu pense pas que la nerf un peu serait mieux?

02:57:043 - spam les dons c'est pas un peu boring içi? En fait, sur cette partie en général.

02:24:445 - le speed up içi pour le simple petit k me semble peut être un peu trop grand

04:23:021 (689) - On entend presque pas la note, va falloir augmenter un peu le volume.

pk certaine SV semble être les même?
wah mec, j'comprends pas ton dernier kiai xD
Topic Starter
Kin

PoNo wrote:

Hey SALUzz

Bassdrop Freaks
02:27:546 - 02:32:909 - wow, cette SV est hyper rapide, tu pense pas que la nerf un peu serait mieux?
J'ai nerf à x2 max
02:57:043 - spam les dons c'est pas un peu boring içi? En fait, sur cette partie en général.
ça peut l'être, mais je préfère avoir le spam d afin de bien emphasis les k sur la melody/vocal
02:24:445 - le speed up içi pour le simple petit k me semble peut être un peu trop grand
réduit à 1.40 max
04:23:021 (689) - On entend presque pas la note, va falloir augmenter un peu le volume.
fixed, j'ai aussi fix pour l'autre endroit similaire
pk certaine SV semble être les même? c'est hyper chiant, mais l'editeur arrondi 2 chiffre après la virgule :c
wah mec, j'comprends pas ton dernier kiai xD
merci bien!
Ovoui
slt k1

[tacos]

00:14:473 (22,23,24,25) - wah, c'est hyper tot pour utiliser un 1/6 tu pense pas?

00:23:523 (85) - Tu peux enlever le finisher içi, vu qu'il n'y a pas la mélodie non? si tu fix, go faire pareil sur les autres diffs.

00:26:875 - wah, tu laisse réellement un vide içi? :c
içi aussi 00:32:238 -

01:19:166 (502) - c'est nécessaire de finish tout les vocal içi?

04:33:160 - c'est en 1/3 juste un peu avant içi!
04:33:412 - pareil içi!

04:37:518 - tu compte laisser un 3/4 break içi? tu pense pas que laisser un 1/2 break serait plus cohérent içi?

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Sympa ton dernier kiai mdr
Topic Starter
Kin

Ovoui wrote:

slt k1

[tacos]

00:14:473 (22,23,24,25) - wah, c'est hyper tot pour utiliser un 1/6 tu pense pas?
il est vrai, de plus, c'est pas vraiment du 1/6, fixed
00:23:523 (85) - Tu peux enlever le finisher içi, vu qu'il n'y a pas la mélodie non? si tu fix, go faire pareil sur les autres diffs.
oui
00:26:875 - wah, tu laisse réellement un vide içi? :c
içi aussi 00:32:238 -
par rapport à ce que je map c'est plus conhérent pour moi de laisser un break que fill inutilement
01:19:166 (502) - c'est nécessaire de finish tout les vocal içi?
j'aime bien le rendu que ça donne les big K sur les "wan"
04:33:160 - c'est en 1/3 juste un peu avant içi!
04:33:412 - pareil içi!
fixed les 2!
04:37:518 - tu compte laisser un 3/4 break içi? tu pense pas que laisser un 1/2 break serait plus cohérent içi?
je préfère largement le 3/4, vouloir mettre un 1/2 peut sembler mieux, mais je trouve que ça casse le feeling que le 3/4 donne
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Sympa ton dernier kiai mdr
jtm bb
YuzukiEba
Et salut à tous les bro

[Bassdrop freaks]

  • - 00:39:780 (152,153) - swap en d k pour la melodie? La 2eme note est plus aigu

    - 00:46:484 (208) - 00:51:847 (265) - soit t'en fais des 1/8 doublet comme les autres ou soit t'en fait des finisher K. Mais mix pas les 2. Regarde içi 00:57:211 (317,318) -

    - 01:27:211 (567) - tu veux pas le finish? pareil pour les autres truc similaire en speed up

    - 01:47:322 (715) - t'as oublié de le finish?

    - 01:49:501 (730,732) - tu finish pas les 2? Afin de full finish les speed up

    - 02:00:730 (810) - j'aurais bien vu une big note içi, t'en pense quoi?
bisous
Topic Starter
Kin

YuzukiEba wrote:

Et salut à tous les bro

[Bassdrop freaks]

  • - 00:39:780 (152,153) - swap en d k pour la melodie? La 2eme note est plus aigu
    fixed
    - 00:46:484 (208) - 00:51:847 (265) - soit t'en fais des 1/8 doublet comme les autres ou soit t'en fait des finisher K. Mais mix pas les 2. Regarde içi 00:57:211 (317,318) -
    j'ai change le tout en 1/6 stream plutot
    - 01:27:211 (567) - tu veux pas le finish? pareil pour les autres truc similaire en speed up
    j'aime pas finish en fin de stream
    - 01:47:322 (715) - t'as oublié de le finish?
    oui fixed
    - 01:49:501 (730,732) - tu finish pas les 2? Afin de full finish les speed up
    j'ai finish ceux qui était sur la melody
    - 02:00:730 (810) - j'aurais bien vu une big note içi, t'en pense quoi?
    j'trouve que ça casse un peu le slow down de le finish
bisous
merci jtm, j'ai fix quelques autre truc que j'avais oublié au passage \o
iloveyou4ever
brief suggestion about hp and od
21:07 iloveyou4ever: Hi,would it be better to change bassdrop freak to od6.5?
21:08 iloveyou4ever: also hp4
21:08 Kin: hm, gonna try it
21:09 iloveyou4ever: 03:15:814 - this should be K?
21:09 iloveyou4ever: oh nvm :3
21:10 Kin: actually K goes well here
21:10 Kin: because I use k to follow the background vocal
21:10 Kin: fixed
21:10 iloveyou4ever: 03:26:540 - then also change this?
21:11 iloveyou4ever: like same vocal
21:11 Kin: gonna fix it here too 03:26:540 (182) -
21:11 Kin: yeah
21:11 iloveyou4ever: shot a star btw :D
21:11 iloveyou4ever: randomly check my friends' maps lol
21:11 Kin: thanks! :D
21:11 iloveyou4ever: and yours are flawless
21:11 iloveyou4ever: good luck :D
21:12 Kin: thanks a lot :D
21:13 Kin: fixed OD6.5 ; just checking how is HP4
21:14 Kin: because HP is really weird with note density & lenght :(
21:14 iloveyou4ever: cuz there is a long stream at the end and this map is pretty hard
21:15 iloveyou4ever: if you miss a note at the stream and then get notelocked,then hp5 will deduct your hp a lot
21:15 iloveyou4ever: but hp5 is also fine imo :3
21:16 Kin: HP4 seems better yeah
21:16 Kin: gonna change it to 4 then
21:16 iloveyou4ever: pp map XD
21:17 Kin: HP fill kinda slowly while missing missing in the kiai is way too punishing
21:17 Kin: thanks for checking! :D
21:17 iloveyou4ever: np!
21:18 Kin: you can post IRC for kd owo
21:18 iloveyou4ever: oh ok!
21:18 Kin: unless you have another concern \o

Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Kin

iloveyou4ever wrote:

brief suggestion about hp and od
21:07 iloveyou4ever: Hi,would it be better to change bassdrop freak to od6.5?
21:08 iloveyou4ever: also hp4
21:08 Kin: hm, gonna try it
21:09 iloveyou4ever: 03:15:814 - this should be K?
21:09 iloveyou4ever: oh nvm :3
21:10 Kin: actually K goes well here
21:10 Kin: because I use k to follow the background vocal
21:10 Kin: fixed
21:10 iloveyou4ever: 03:26:540 - then also change this?
21:11 iloveyou4ever: like same vocal
21:11 Kin: gonna fix it here too 03:26:540 (182) -
21:11 Kin: yeah
21:11 iloveyou4ever: shot a star btw :D
21:11 iloveyou4ever: randomly check my friends' maps lol
21:11 Kin: thanks! :D
21:11 iloveyou4ever: and yours are flawless
21:11 iloveyou4ever: good luck :D
21:12 Kin: thanks a lot :D
21:13 Kin: fixed OD6.5 ; just checking how is HP4
21:14 Kin: because HP is really weird with note density & lenght :(
21:14 iloveyou4ever: cuz there is a long stream at the end and this map is pretty hard
21:15 iloveyou4ever: if you miss a note at the stream and then get notelocked,then hp5 will deduct your hp a lot
21:15 iloveyou4ever: but hp5 is also fine imo :3
21:16 Kin: HP4 seems better yeah
21:16 Kin: gonna change it to 4 then
21:16 iloveyou4ever: pp map XD
21:17 Kin: HP fill kinda slowly while missing missing in the kiai is way too punishing
21:17 Kin: thanks for checking! :D
21:17 iloveyou4ever: np!
21:18 Kin: you can post IRC for kd owo
21:18 iloveyou4ever: oh ok!
21:18 Kin: unless you have another concern \o

Good Luck!
fixed HP4 & OD6.5

also changed 03:15:814 (126) - 03:26:540 (182) - into K

thanks!
Surono
Bassuderoppururkrkrkrkrk
caw
23:32 Surono: goodnroming
23:32 Surono: guuuud
23:33 Kin: h e l l o t h e r e
23:33 Surono: AEHEAUEHEUHEUAEH
23:37 Surono: dem.. why discssssssoonn of this comunidem so spooky..
23:37 Surono: like taco somethgin osmghint......
23:37 Surono: hell yeh ~_~ makes me wanna only breathink
23:43 Surono: dem it spooky our CHATTIN IS MADNUTS
23:43 Surono: u rn see me CAW CAW
23:43 Surono: aheaeuaehea welp SIR KON X""""""""""""""d
23:43 Kin: wat iz hapenin surobro D:
23:44 Surono: DX idk.. i jusst want chattin or idk.. "why me alwayz write *idk* hauehuahe"
23:50 *Surono is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1379208 Camellia feat. Nanahira - Bassdrop Freaks (Long Ver.) [Drumstep Freaks]] <Taiko> |Autoplay|
23:50 Surono: asdgghadfsdagfsahafshdf
23:50 Surono: S V s , .
23:50 Kin: madnut freaks
23:50 Surono: RELLY MDNOTS
23:55 Surono: lets ezpz this map madnutus
23:56 Surono: 00:45:144 - dem sv when met this 00:45:646 - .. like close or stackd or idk.. remove or 1.55
23:57 Kin: fixed
23:57 Surono: hel yeh SVosshh
23:58 Surono: 01:14:976 - dem its intendd for variason? cuz previously is d yeh
23:59 Surono: many cats owo owo owo OWOWOWOWOWOOW
23:59 Kin: dem changed 1st one d into k
00:00 Surono: X"D oh demmm hel yeh
00:01 Surono: not d for both or similar part? to give da contrast diff with 2plet kat.. if is single k it looks like forgt to 2plet.. ~_~
00:02 Kin: dunno prefer k because more emphasis on D
00:02 Surono: hmmm ta DUNNNn
00:03 Surono: 01:38:021 - 01:38:104 - is these coma svs? cuz 1.1 and 1.1.. but from here its me or really da svs effect feels not really gotchaa for me X"D
00:03 Kin: it is xd
00:03 Surono: oh demmmm, MADNUT GREENDLINS
00:03 Surono: MANY
00:03 Surono: WOOooooooooohg
00:05 Kin: every 1/4 is +0,1/16
00:05 Surono: ohhhh dem math
00:05 Surono: ~_~
00:05 Kin: It's 0.00625 each 1/4 xd
00:05 Surono: lel X"D
00:06 Surono: not at all bcom as svs yeh.. just for da DROPPu or really madnuts flow yeh? hel yeh.. dem nanahira au e o aueuaoae JOOOOooooooo efxeditd - _-
00:07 Surono: 02:25:535 - finish him!! *ded
00:08 Kin: i prefer to keep it as k, other kick are not K
00:12 Surono: dem, yeh i few similar lik dis and made for pattern strucutr such 02:22:853 - . but yeh your finisher mostly focus at high impact so ok X"D
00:12 Surono: 03:36:680 - sygsdhasadjsadj 1.6969696969696
00:14 Surono: oke done just it asfsdafsdafsd - _-
00:15 Surono: dem 2nd kiai and 3rd kiai structur.. i luv camel - lie variason.. dem
mapper added tags more, changed bg position, and few a-little-bit-tiny minor improving from me.
Arrival
tags changed etc qf
Aurele
bravoo
Pachiru
GG BG <3
Shunao
NiCe GrAtS!
Ayana Hana
artist must be Nanahira only, lol and tags not full
why not take metadata from already rank maps, its so hard?

IamKwaN wrote:

yf isn't sure, so I am here.

かめりあ feat. ななひら is the artist of the short version in IIDX, you should refer to the album alias i linked for the long version

Topic Starter
Kin

Lama Poluna wrote:

artist must be Nanahira only, lol and tags not full
why not take metadata from already rank maps, its so hard?

IamKwaN wrote:

yf isn't sure, so I am here.

かめりあ feat. ななひら is the artist of the short version in IIDX, you should refer to the album alias i linked for the long version

You should not refer to ranked map as official source for metadata.
reading RC isn't so hard?


gotta take a look when I get back home
IamKwaN
why isn't it Nanahira only?

there's nowhere stating かめりあ feat. ななひら for Long Ver.

edit: well, please find me your reference when you are home, thanks
Ayana Hana

Kin wrote:

You should not refer to ranked map as official source for metadata.
reading RC isn't so hard?


gotta take a look when I get back home
YOU CAN CLICK ON THE SPOILER BOX AND SEE THE OFFICIAL SOURCES, ISNT SO HARD?!
Topic Starter
Kin

Lama Poluna wrote:

YOU CAN CLICK ON THE SPOILER BOX AND SEE THE OFFICIAL SOURCES, ISNT SO HARD?!
you changed your passif aggressive for only aggressive really quick. I also recommand you to check Code of Conduct.

In any case, thanks for your concern
http://nanahira.extsm.com/
What I see from this source, is Camellia only as arrange. It is true it's not properly referred as camellia ft nanahira (which should be the case). However, I don't see it referred as nanahira only either. I think we assume it's referred as nanahira only because it is her album. (correct me if I'm wrong). The album refer the source which is beatmania, and beatmania only refer to the "short ver" as camellia ft nanahira as artist.

The ""correct"" metadata is sure quite weird. If you think this metadata is a problem DQ it, I'll correct it asap
Pachiru
People are getting angry quite easily nowadays...
Stefan
Have a little cooldown for now, then we try again. please stay polite in this thread, thank you everyone.
Doyak
We have discussed for a few hours, and concluded that we'll just leave this as it is now.

Although the short ver and the long ver are technically different tracks, the only difference between them is the song duration; thus my opinion was that we can assume the artist to be the same.

Though KwaN still wanted to stick to the Nanahira's album, there's no proof that Nanahira wants to be the only artist for the track either. So we tried to contact Nanahira to ask directly. KwaN tried it via Twitter but hasn't received any response, so we'll just assume it can both be accepted unless there's an objection from the artist.
Raphalge
Any reason you put a note at 00:22:769 (81) - but not at 02:52:937 - ? With the SV being as crazy as it is it makes 02:53:104 (10) - unnecessarily hard to accurately hit :o
Topic Starter
Kin

Raphalge wrote:

Any reason you put a note at 00:22:769 (81) - but not at 02:52:937 - ? With the SV being as crazy as it is it makes 02:53:104 (10) - unnecessarily hard to accurately hit :o
because there's no real sound here 00:22:769 (81) - unlike 00:22:769 (81) -
also intensity is quite different, that's why the 2nd SV change are faster than the 1st

thanks for your feedback! \o
Raphalge

Kin wrote:

because there's no real sound here 02:52:937 - unlike 00:22:769 (81) -
I can tell there's no bass at 02:52:937 - but other than that it's the same unless I'm tone deaf. It's your map and all but I just dont think sacrificing playability for musical accuracy is the right thing to do :^(
Topic Starter
Kin

Raphalge wrote:

I can tell there's no bass at 02:52:937 - but other than that it's the same unless I'm tone deaf. It's your map and all but I just dont think sacrificing playability for musical accuracy is the right thing to do :^(
hm, after a closer look, yeah, there's a sound here as well 02:52:937 - . But according to pitch & sound intensity I'd map it as d, and d here is quite weird to play in my opinion

thanks for your concern & giving me your honest opinion
I'm going to ask some people what they think about it!

edit: seems ok from people I asked
Nwolf
long end stream.

-- To me the size of that stream is out of proportion compared to the rest of the map and the song's intensity here. I would've understood a 1/6-heavy section to emphasize the synths/wubs, but not two endless streams that overpower the song more than anything else, at least in my opinion.

And yes I know I'm late
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