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Tomatsu Haruka, Hikasa Yoko, Amamiya Sora - Eyecatch! Too mu

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Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
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Lilyanna
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 6:18:38 AM

Artist: Tomatsu Haruka, Hikasa Yoko, Amamiya Sora
Title: Eyecatch! Too much!
Source: http://WWW.WORKING!!
Tags: opening tv size http://WWW.WAGNARIA!! 宮越華 村主さゆり 鎌倉志保 Hana Miyakoshi Sayuri Muranushi Shiho Kamakura SnowNiNo_ -Vanilla _83 DeRandom Otaku
BPM: 240
Filesize: 2954kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. _83's Hyper (3.46 stars, 331 notes)
  2. Easy (1.54 stars, 111 notes)
  3. Expert (5.97 stars, 422 notes)
  4. NiNo's Extra (5.53 stars, 408 notes)
  5. Normal (2.25 stars, 146 notes)
  6. Ren's Insane (4.44 stars, 345 notes)
  7. -Vanilla's Another (5.14 stars, 397 notes)
Download: Tomatsu Haruka, Hikasa Yoko, Amamiya Sora - Eyecatch! Too much!
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy by me
Normal by me
Hard by _83
Insane by DeRandom Otaku
Insane by SnowNiNo_
Insane by -Vanilla
Expert by me
Last edited by Lilyanna , edited 23 times in total.
anna apple
1,245 posts
Joined March 2014
anna apple
https://bor.s-ul.eu/bIM7folM.osu

I made a hyper for this \o/
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,106 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_
idk wat i just made lol
help me hs
osu file format v14

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Title:Eyecatch! Too much!
TitleUnicode:Eyecatch! Too much!
Artist:Tomatsu Haruka, Hikasa Yoko, Amamiya Sora
ArtistUnicode:戸松 遥、日笠陽子、雨宮 天
Creator:Lilyanna
Version:NiNo's Extra
Source:WWW.WORKING!!
Tags:
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Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna
i updated its good i like how everyone mapping as technical as i did XD
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,106 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_
updated for some flow rework and nerf some pattern
osu file format v14

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Lilyanna
1,918 posts
Joined March 2016
Topic Starter
Lilyanna
Updated! added vanilla's finish diff and finished easy diff i only hs expert diff i didnt apply on other diff yet because i may change stuff
Ascendance
Elite Mapper
4,225 posts
Joined July 2013
Ascendance
wait me ~
Naxess
Nomination Assessment Team
390 posts
Joined March 2016
Naxess
wasnt planning to post but ok
2017-09-02 20:27 Naxess: ok so generally the higher the diff and the faster stuff goes, the more you want to make stuff intuitive
2017-09-02 20:27 Naxess: if it's not intuitive it's going to be pretty messy to play and feel way too rigid
2017-09-02 20:28 Naxess: btw is there a reason as to why 00:03:469 (1,1,1) - are different combos but 00:04:219 (2) - isn't?
2017-09-02 20:28 Lilyanna: idk what intuitive mean
2017-09-02 20:28 Lilyanna: xd
2017-09-02 20:29 Lilyanna: because 1/2 has higher cv
2017-09-02 20:29 Lilyanna: u cant tell the difference
2017-09-02 20:29 Lilyanna: between 1 and 2
2017-09-02 20:29 Naxess: cv?
2017-09-02 20:29 Lilyanna: but u could teell from 1 1 1 that the sv starts to change
2017-09-02 20:29 Lilyanna: sv*
2017-09-02 20:29 Naxess: ah you're doing sv based ncing huh
2017-09-02 20:30 Naxess: tbh I'd have just nced all of 00:03:469 (1,1,1,2) - or every other one
2017-09-02 20:30 Naxess: since they're all going up in pitch anyway
2017-09-02 20:30 Lilyanna: okayy
2017-09-02 20:30 Naxess: the higher in difficulty you go, the less lenient you have to be in indicating stuff for the most part
2017-09-02 20:31 Lilyanna: got it
2017-09-02 20:31 Naxess: like in an insane or hard you'd probably want to nc sv changes, but here it doesn't matter as much, since it's a common thing for most harder diffs
2017-09-02 20:31 Naxess: you can still do stuff like 00:05:719 (1,1,1) - though since it looks better like this
2017-09-02 20:31 Naxess: ok so 00:06:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2017-09-02 20:32 Naxess: feels really rigid
2017-09-02 20:32 Naxess: like you have to snap to all of them and they're not even organized recognizably most of the time
2017-09-02 20:32 Lilyanna: what rigid mean
2017-09-02 20:32 Naxess: rigid is like - you have to snap a lot and movement isn't smooth
2017-09-02 20:32 Lilyanna: oh xd
2017-09-02 20:33 Lilyanna: 00:06:469 (1,2,3,4,5) - like if u look they creat this half circle
2017-09-02 20:33 Lilyanna: star
2017-09-02 20:33 Naxess: being rigid is fine if that's what you're going for but you should probably at least make the pattern more structured
2017-09-02 20:33 Lilyanna: or idk or u mean they are not orgonized compared to the other jumps?
2017-09-02 20:33 Naxess: well 00:06:469 (1,2,3,4) - looks like a rectangle
2017-09-02 20:33 Naxess: but they're not even parallel
2017-09-02 20:34 Naxess: I get that it makes a star pattern but it's kinda hard to tell like this lol
2017-09-02 20:34 Naxess: especially at that speed anyway
2017-09-02 20:34 Lilyanna: the speed helps not noticing the bad structure not the good structure XD
2017-09-02 20:35 Naxess: trust me, the bad structure is still really noticeable lol
2017-09-02 20:35 Lilyanna: :(
2017-09-02 20:35 Naxess: anyway 00:07:469 (1) - has a vocal on the red tick so maybe have it symmetrical to 00:07:219 (8) - in rhythm and visuals
2017-09-02 20:35 Lilyanna: ill try re arange it
2017-09-02 20:36 Naxess: try also arranging 00:07:094 (6,7,8) - so it looks like it's part of the pattern
2017-09-02 20:36 Naxess: while you're at it
2017-09-02 20:36 Lilyanna: 00:07:219 (8) - ok this should be 1/3 ops
2017-09-02 20:37 Naxess: 00:08:469 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - seems a bit unbalanced but could be fixed without changing a lot
2017-09-02 20:37 Naxess: like you can almost see the pattern already from this https://i.imgur.com/SUl24qw.jpg
2017-09-02 20:37 Naxess: just make 00:08:469 (1,3,7) - a more equal triangle and then make 00:08:594 (2,4,5) - visually consistent in spacing
2017-09-02 20:38 Naxess: keep in mind that 00:09:094 (6,7) - is on a triple so account for that
2017-09-02 20:38 Naxess: anyway 00:09:469 (1) - also has a red tick etc
2017-09-02 20:38 Naxess: by making them all end on blue ticks it seems like they're all the same sounds, which they're not lol
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: hold on
2017-09-02 20:39 Naxess: also wait 00:07:219 (8) - is not 1/3 lol
2017-09-02 20:39 Naxess: it's 1/2
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: this map has tricky snatsp
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: snaps
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: most of it 1/3
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: some vocals and sounds are 1/2
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: and some tripe 1/4
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: xd
2017-09-02 20:39 Lilyanna: triple
2017-09-02 20:40 Lilyanna: just to be clear
2017-09-02 20:40 Naxess: where is it 1/3 tho
2017-09-02 20:40 Naxess: all the vocals and drums and all that sounds like 1/2 and 1/4
2017-09-02 20:40 Lilyanna: trust me i like asked everyone for this XD
2017-09-02 20:40 Lilyanna: when i first mapped it i did to 1/2 1/4
2017-09-02 20:41 Lilyanna: and then everyone telling me its 1/3 so
2017-09-02 20:41 Lilyanna: and when u listen at 25% speed
2017-09-02 20:41 Naxess: o I see now
2017-09-02 20:42 Naxess: although 00:07:219 (8) - is 1/2 isn't it?
2017-09-02 20:42 Lilyanna: i guess
2017-09-02 20:42 Lilyanna: fdsdfs
2017-09-02 20:42 Lilyanna: its rly confusing
2017-09-02 20:42 Naxess: ye I see what you mean now lol
2017-09-02 20:42 Lilyanna: but 00:07:469 (1) - is 1/3
2017-09-02 20:42 Lilyanna: like vocals are 1/4
2017-09-02 20:42 Naxess: ye
2017-09-02 20:43 Lilyanna: 1/2 i mean
2017-09-02 20:43 Lilyanna: but most sounds 1/3
2017-09-02 20:43 Naxess: wa
2017-09-02 20:43 Naxess: on 00:07:469 (1) - the vocal ends on 1/3 from what I can hear
2017-09-02 20:43 Lilyanna: like im noticing i fuked up this is 1/3 00:10:719 (2) - xd
2017-09-02 20:43 Lilyanna: ye
2017-09-02 20:44 Naxess: or wait
2017-09-02 20:44 Naxess: what is this snapping lol
2017-09-02 20:44 Naxess: my ears
2017-09-02 20:44 Lilyanna: yes ikr XD
2017-09-02 20:44 Naxess: ok well drum goes on 1/3 on 00:07:969 (4) - so should be right
2017-09-02 20:45 Naxess: btw the transition from 00:13:969 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - to 00:14:469 (1) - is pain lol
2017-09-02 20:45 Naxess: because it forces a really fast motion from (3) to (1)
2017-09-02 20:46 Lilyanna: any suggestion how fix?
2017-09-02 20:46 Naxess: could just not space it hm
2017-09-02 20:46 Naxess: like maybe https://i.imgur.com/rjHqBKD.png
2017-09-02 20:46 Naxess: or wait
2017-09-02 20:46 Lilyanna: okay
2017-09-02 20:46 Lilyanna: but then i have to not space rest
2017-09-02 20:47 Naxess: https://i.imgur.com/L6wcwdP.pngwould be cooler but it also overlaps badly lol
2017-09-02 20:47 Naxess: latter is also better in flow
2017-09-02 20:47 Naxess: basically the higher bpm you have, the more important flow becomes to make things intuitive
2017-09-02 20:48 Lilyanna: yes noted
2017-09-02 20:49 Naxess: also 00:21:344 -
2017-09-02 20:49 Lilyanna: i staked 5 on taik of
2017-09-02 20:49 Lilyanna: 00:14:469 (1) -
2017-09-02 20:49 Naxess: shouldn't this end on 1/2 00:21:219 (1) -
2017-09-02 20:49 Lilyanna: http://puu.sh/xpTgo/3217c78c4c.jpg
2017-09-02 20:49 Lilyanna: is this ok,?
2017-09-02 20:49 Naxess: in that case make 00:14:219 (1,2,3) - blanket the head in some way
2017-09-02 20:49 Naxess: to make it more like 00:20:219 (1,2,3,1) -
2017-09-02 20:50 Naxess: and then do that for the rest to build a visual concept
2017-09-02 20:50 Lilyanna: yes
2017-09-02 20:50 Naxess: just make sure the spacing isn't too insane like it was before lol
2017-09-02 20:51 Naxess: btw 00:22:635 (1,2,1,2) - seems a bit strange visually
2017-09-02 20:51 Naxess: it's like the dark brown one is differently rotated and spaced from the lighter one hm
2017-09-02 20:53 Naxess: you could use the editor copy paste thing to make it perfectly linear https://i.imgur.com/bV5y5MN.png
2017-09-02 20:53 Naxess: like copy 1 and 2 and stack on the head or tail or whatnot and repeat
DeRandom Otaku
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Joined November 2014
DeRandom Otaku
http://puu.sh/xutFR/1743901677.txt
-sandAI
286 posts
Joined July 2014
-sandAI
why do the top 3 diffs have different rhythms lol
Winnie
1,343 posts
Joined November 2013
Winnie
Hello from modding queue



[Expert]
00:06:594 (2) - Very awkward finish, nothing really states in the music that this needs to be here. This as well 00:06:844 (4) - Because I would rather keep hitsound consistent to 00:08:469 (1,2,3,4,5) -
Then again it plays very awkwardly 00:06:469 (1,2,3,4,5) - Then again it's probably me because I'm an alternating player and based what this information gave don't mind this
00:16:469 (1,2,3,4) - How come these parts are different than 00:14:969 (3,4,5,6) -
00:19:469 (1) - I'd probably also NC this. Since it's the same color as 00:18:719 (1,2) - It'll give the impression visually to some players that this may be a fast slider just to be consistent
00:33:344 (5,1,2) - Fairly noticeable spacing change compared to 00:33:844 (3,4,5,6) - as well as 00:34:969 (3,4,5,1,2) - Fairly spaced for a really fast BPM song on the rather more subtle part of the music but your preference since it was similar to parts past this
00:49:802 (2,3) - This is confusing. 1.) Note (2) Had no beats on it which makes it irrelevant and 2.) It plays too quick of a transition compared to the streams. It's too sudden spaced out and fairly too early because of (2) Would add more emphasis to the trumpet if (2) was removed
00:52:094 (3,4,5,6) - This should be smoothed out, this will cause breaks tremendously easy. Should be consistent spacing with previously otherwise it's too much of a spike. It's saying like (4) has such a strong emphasis it needs to be spaced that far on a 240bpm song.
00:54:969 (3,4) - Same with these two, it's not giving enough time to hit this stream. As a player, you have to adjust to the spacing then adjust to the early 5 note stream but the catch here is (4) is on a different beat snap divisor while the others are 1/4 which makes it more awkward to play. I'd move (4) to the blue tick because it'll play like your note-slider combination and it's not incorrectly snapped. Other than that it's very awkward.


Not much more I can say I'll leave this to the other modders. Out of the 3 variable rhythms in the top 3 diffs, I would say SnowNiNo did it the most effectively. He utilized the 1/3 rhythms after the break a lot more consistently While top diffs (Extra) had rhythms like this 00:33:344 (5) - Which could've been a slider to match with sounds on 00:32:469 (1,2) - and mapped to like a 1/2 - 1/4 rhythm instead of 1/3 but only my opinion.
Vanilla - one Example would be 00:33:635 (1,2,3,4,5) - Could've been https://puu.sh/xySxB/19c2480a68.png or https://puu.sh/xySzr/a4a10bf40d.png Rhtyhm dynamically follows vocals as well as strong drums. In which case you wanted sliders to follow vocals. Listen closely you have snaps that don't pertain to the beats in the music at the right time. It's early. Only my opinion but rhythm were the main factor it the awkwardness of the map to me.
Senko-san
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Senko-san
Having a BG from the original series for a song from the spinnof tilts me at an unbelievable level
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