1. Umbra (5.42 stars, 1411 notes)

1. 00:07:845 (1,2,3,4) - For this part, I prefer this kind of alternative: 1. Replace it with two sliders to make this part coordinate with the previous two repeated sections; 2. Make these 4 notes like a square since this isn't actually a perfect square; Also, 00:09:393 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You could use DS to decrease every distance of two adjacent notes linearly;
2. 00:11:135 (2,1,2,3) - This part looks a bit abrupt;
3. 00:34:168 (1) - Replace it with stream will be better?
4. 00:39:781 (4) - This reverse looks unncessary here;
5. 00:49:651 (1,2) - Since difficulty parts begin to appear periodically, try to move the notes further from the slider and avoid overlap 00:49:845 (2,3)
6. For the first kiai part I don't think there are other significant problem~
7. 02:03:393 (4,5) - These reverses look unnecessary, and then you may start NC here;
8. 02:11:716 (1) - Increase SV to 0.9x instead?
9. 02:46:168 (1,2,3) - Try to not overlap these three notes with the previous set; Split them a little;
10. 03:29:135 (1) - I prefer that similar crazy slider in Alumetorz's map here ;w;
11. 03:50:039 (3) - -> 2-4 grids?
12. 04:48:103 (5,6) - Prefer jump;
13. 04:51:974 (1) - Wow, dat slider, pretty cool~ So why not making this one 05:04:361 (1) as complicated as the previous one?

siwu320 wrote:

Hi~ from my queue~

Some suggestions:

[Umbra]

1. 00:07:845 (1,2,3,4) - For this part, I prefer this kind of alternative: 1. Replace it with two sliders to make this part coordinate with the previous two repeated sections <- changed to this; 2. Make these 4 notes like a square since this isn't actually a perfect square; Also, 00:09:393 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You could use DS to decrease every distance of two adjacent notes linearly; Changed it but not sure if it is what you are talking about?
2. 00:11:135 (2,1,2,3) - This part looks a bit abrupt; same
3. 00:34:168 (1) - Replace it with stream will be better? hmmm, I would like to lead in the 1/4 streams from the 1/3 sliders, using stream may be too of a sudden for players not familiar with the song already?
4. 00:39:781 (4) - This reverse looks unncessary here; I wanted to stress the strong sound on the white tick as I did before
5. 00:49:651 (1,2) - Since difficulty parts begin to appear periodically, try to move the notes further from the slider and avoid overlap 00:49:845 (2,3) changed
6. For the first kiai part I don't think there are other significant problem~
7. 02:03:393 (4,5) - These reverses look unnecessary, and then you may start NC here; There is the 3 1/4 sounds in the song, not sure what to change into if I were to do so
8. 02:11:716 (1) - Increase SV to 0.9x instead? not sure about the reason behind this suggestion, but ok
9. 02:46:168 (1,2,3) - Try to not overlap these three notes with the previous set; Split them a little; changed
10. 03:29:135 (1) - I prefer that similar crazy slider in Alumetorz's map here ;w; I don't know... hmmm, changed for now but the spinner looks as viable to me as well
11. 03:50:039 (3) - -> 2-4 grids? not sure what this is about?
12. 04:48:103 (5,6) - Prefer jump; would like to make it so that part intensifies for the next 3 strong parts coming
13. 04:51:974 (1) - Wow, dat slider, pretty cool~ So why not making this one 05:04:361 (1) as complicated as the previous one? did a loop type thing. That should do..?

Well, great map~ though not as impressive as Alumetorz's, and you make use of the space after the last kiai section, that makes a major difference.
Thanks for the mod! I would say that the one other big difference is the breaks after the kiai section, although the drain times for both are really similar. Thanks again!

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Hello, from my queue~

[- - Umbra - -]

1. 00:02:619 (4) - 00:05:715 (4) - 00:08:812 (4) - Could've not been the best thing ignoring the twinkle sounds on the white ticks just by creating a long slider in the middle of it. I can literally say, they do deserve to follow like everything else you've did. Alike being clickable, or at least a slider end landing on the white tick, or a circle and 1/2 slider. I highly suggest changing it's rhythm to one of those though. Used the reverse slider thing
2. 00:15:587 (2) - Well, the slider art itself looks a bit awkward. Especially the placement of the slider points are weirdly placed in my opinion. I think you can polish the curves a little more with adding more slider points on the right grid, I can give a little sample of mine but maybe you could do it on your way, if you don't mind. Might improve visual aesthetics much greater and thorough. changed
3. 00:21:781 (1,2,1,2) - The 1/2 circles here are way crowded by it's distance spacing and patterning. I've seen that you're trying to increase the distance spacing on note density because of the song track, but with that it doesn't really sound like... a build-up or some intensity. It totally sounds the same tone over this part, so I guess randomizing the placements isn't even a good idea for sure. I would recommend a structure for these circles by making a shape, like a polygon, hexagon, or maybe some pattern that looks great for this part. Used square and sliders. Doesn't look the best, but will do
4. 00:41:910 (1,2,3,4) - Really, this is some kind of a huge delay and a sudden decrease of the note density. You've varied a lot of patterns with spacing and structures over the verse before the kiai time, but here... just ruins the content of the song track. So rather than manual-stacking, or anti-jumping, it'd be better if you reconsider this and do something about it. At least replacing them into 1/2 sliders or add more circles on the red ticks suffices the rhythm composition. changed to 1/2 sliders
5. 00:47:329 (1,2,1) - 00:56:619 (1,2) - It's usually okay using the normal 1.0x distance spacing for some parts of the difficulty. But something like these two, doesn't actually fit when it comes to the rides based on the song track's intensity. I would think you could try increasing the distance spacing a little more for quite a challenge and for visual consistency to not get confused in gameplay from 3/4 sliders or so on. I actually can't tell the difference lol but changed a little bit, although not sure if that is what you mean
6. 01:06:490 (2,1) - 01:09:393 (5,1) - At some way, the overlap looks really dull even if attempting to make a manual stack or whatsoever. Well, selecting both notes can show a bit aesthetics further on. But while bypassing it with players' cursors, I don't think it's playstyle would be that great. I suggest splitting up the overlap, or at least stack it completely for the previous streaming continuously. stacked those in the first part-ish, and made jumps in later parts. Though again, can't tell much difference playing them
7. 01:39:974 (3) - Just my personal opinion, so the next red tick sounds little bit... empty, you know. I guess filling up the rhythm should be the best option for this one like adding a circle, or perhaps replacing the current circle into a 1/2 slider in order to follow the little melody on the song track more precise. Somehow it doesn't look like it's only doing it for a tiny break, since this kind of length is not enough or even effective on gameplay. So yeah, add something suitable here. Used slider, in the last part 04:55:071 (3) as well
8. 02:17:910 (1,1,1,1) - That's a little bit of... overdone new combos to be honest. I kinda dislike it when these show up every time I mod some difficulty aside from this one, especially if the difficulty setting's HP drain rate is lower than 7. Most likely, you aren't even doing it on the next rhythm which have some short 1/4 sliders having their one and only own combo. I would recommend making a consistency here, by removing the new combos and keep the first one as usual. It'd be really fine as long as it's pretty balanced through. Got rid of some NCs like in 02:28:748 (1,2,3,4,5,6) , but kept some for lead in like 02:12:490 (1,2,3,1,2,3)
9. 02:32:619 (1,2,3,4) - 02:34:168 (1,2,3,1,2) - Well, isn't these kinds of structures somehow a little repetitive? Through copy-pasting, or flowing too linear, or maybe a lot of delaying stacks. Would've probably been great if you've tried something different than the current one for sure. Especially for these two parts, they're quite at this level. So, it's best you reconsider and remake most of the patterning if you're comfortable doing it. changed it for a little bit, but I would like to defend myself by saying the whole song this part per se is already quite repetitive

This supposed to be all of it. Seen further parts of it and many issues looked similar to the ones I mentioned. So yeah, not gonna make this modpost too big ;p Changed all most some issues above for other parts, at least I believe. Thanks for the mod!
Good Luck, sir!

lilligantEX wrote:

From modding queue

[Umbra]
01:43:071 (4) - slider should be held longer Changed
03:23:716 (5) - ^ Changed the slider shape and added stuff after the slider
04:46:942 (2,3,4,1,2) - would be better as jumps not sure, I wanted to "gradually" add in difficulty in that section
04:57:006 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - should be two repeating sliders instead of a stream (changing clicking speed in the middle of a stream isn't very playable, even at low bpm) Not sure, had seen some maps (albeit not std) with these kind of 1/4-1/6 change that work quite well. I can play that section fine but idk, maybe if others also think that then I would change it
05:03:974 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - should be repeating sliders, either the first combo is a repeating slider (better) or both are same

Lumario wrote:

Hay, it's me DeLumaLay o/

Here's your TP request (sorry of sucking at streams )
http://puu.sh/v4Dtu/ed58375f04.osr

One quick thing I would suggest is more use of / earlier introduction to this concept 03:16:748 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - cause I like it but it maybe can catch you off guard

CookieBite wrote:

hi there from my queue
m4m i guess

[Umbra]

1. 00:03:200 (1) - stack on 00:02:039 (2) - sure
2. 00:03:200 (1,2) - better make them parallel, ctrl+d/ctrl+> can help you sure
3. 00:04:748 (1) - what if blanket this to 00:04:361 (4) - ? not sure what you mean, made a blanket anyways
4. 00:09:393 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't get it why the distance of the objects get nearer and nearer each time, it doesn't fit with the music I guess I will change it then
5. 00:12:877 (2) - rotate 90 degree for good flow sure
6. 00:13:458 (1,2,3,1,2) - this is overmapped, just keep these (00:13:458 (1,3,1) - ) is fine changed to reverse sliders
7. 00:14:039 (1,2,3) - these two patterns are not the same, i mean one is ytwo sound per one silder, another one is one sound per one slider. Just keep a same pattern here as there is no reason to do it differently. changed
8. 00:17:522 (2,3) - improve blanket sure
9. 00:19:845 (4,1) - uncomfortable overlap changed to overlap with 00:19:458 (3)
10. 00:22:942 (6) - stack on 00:21:781 (1) - would be better (for the distance) Not sure what you mean...?
11. 00:25:651 (3) - rotate 90 degree Nah, It fits better with the next note imo...?
12. 00:26:232 (4,5) - scale the distance down as there is no reason to make it so far away Not sure... but done it anyway
13. 00:33:781 (4) - avoid overlap k
14. 00:36:684 (4) - the slider is weird for me, just make the first line and third line parallel sure
15. 00:42:297 (2) - ctrl+h for good flow sure
16. 00:43:845 (2) - stack on 00:43:071 (4) - sure
17. 00:52:361 (4,1) - the distance makes the gameplay odd, consider move them further sure
18. 00:53:135 (1,2) - again avoid overlap Tried my best to aviod but invetibly some still occur
19. 01:17:135 (4) - remove the arrow point so that the end point won't land on the white tick. As touching a note on a white tick without click seems uncomfortable for players to play Not sure, the alternative is as uncomfortable at least for me to play, this also holds for the rest of the song with this rhythm
20. 01:22:168 (1) - same as ^ But I changed it anyway for variety I guess, not that it's a good thing
21. 01:24:877 (1,1) - stack together sure
22. 01:25:651 (2,3,4) - I would make this triangle to be equilateral, isosceles triangle feels weird sure
23. 01:27:587 (3) - ctrl+g for good flow wait I forgot if I changed it or not I have done a large part of the checking yesterday and forgot about it today lol
24. 01:28:167 (1) - remove NC it's uselessNot sure, as I have the 1/6s throughout the song seperated into 2 parts
25. 01:29:523 (2) - you know what to do remove arrow point sure but idk if it is better or not
26. 01:37:264 (1,1) - overlap sure
27. 01:39:974 (3) - NC it is as viable imo but ok
28. 02:05:910 (2) - ctrl+j for good flow wait I forgot if I changed it or not I have done a large part of the checking yesterday and forgot about it today lol
29. 02:12:490 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - the distance here make it looks like stream. Just make them like jumps I would like to keep it just because these 1/3s only become triangle jumps near kiai to match the intensity I guess
30. 02:14:039 (1,2,3) - same as ^ ^
31. 02:14:813 (1,2) - another overlap (i only point out overlap that are not comfortable) Separated them
32. 02:16:748 (2,3) - ^ ^
33. 02:17:135 (3,5) - try to blanket each other Not quite "each other", but will do
34. 02:25:651 (1,2,3) - overmapped I would defend this by saying that it matches the mapping, seems abrupt to stop there or to put only 2 2/3s there
35. 02:46:297 (2) - ^ changed
36. 02:47:329 (1,2,3) - weird triangle (for me)changed

i guess thats it for now...
there are lots of flaw in this map
overall I think the structure of the map still need to improve
gl with your map!
oh also don't forget to mod my map back