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I personally believe it's the delay when osu! begins spinning. Humans are ready to spin, yet auto will always propose a delay.

I might be wrong. I am a true newbie, so who knows? :/

The thing is, is that regular auto can't spin consistently. If I have HR+Auto, and then normal Auto, the second Auto would get the HR score instead

Isn't it a good idea to reword the title/OP a bit to make this more clear?
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Dusk69 wrote:
I personally believe it's the delay when osu! begins spinning. Humans are ready to spin, yet auto will always propose a delay.

I might be wrong. I am a true newbie, so who knows? :/

That may be true for Tewi Spinners, but this map has only one spinner.

Besides, that isn't the issue.
The issue is that you or auto, always achieve the same score regardless of mods.
In my case, osu auto achieves 30610 score with any combination of HRDTHRFL and 20,000 spinner bonus, but with EZHTNF or any combination of, it achieves the same spin bonus - 20000, yet scores 31710. And its not consistent. Sometimes it'll score 100 points more, sometimes 100 points less. The biggest inconsistency I saw was 1200 points by auto - using the same mods it used just 2 minutes previous.
The other mystery is there are scores which achieve less spinnerbonus than you or auto, but have far more score using the same mods. If score really worked "like that", how come Auto or I don't get the same scores by using the same mods and achieving the same spinner bonus?

Bara- wrote:
Isn't it a good idea to reword the title/OP a bit to make this more clear?

Do you have something in mind?
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Dusk69 wrote:
I personally believe it's the delay when osu! begins spinning. Humans are ready to spin, yet auto will always propose a delay.

I might be wrong. I am a true newbie, so who knows? :/

That may be true for Tewi Spinners, but this map has only one spinner.

Besides, that isn't the issue.
The issue is that you or auto, always achieve the same score regardless of mods.
In my case, osu auto achieves 30610 score with any combination of HRDTHRFL and 20,000 spinner bonus, but with EZHTNF or any combination of, it achieves the same spin bonus - 20000, yet scores 31710. And its not consistent. Sometimes it'll score 100 points more, sometimes 100 points less. The biggest inconsistency I saw was 1200 points by auto - using the same mods it used just 2 minutes previous.
The other mystery is there are scores which achieve less spinnerbonus than you or auto, but have far more score using the same mods. If score really worked "like that", how come Auto or I don't get the same scores by using the same mods and achieving the same spinner bonus?

Bara- wrote:
Isn't it a good idea to reword the title/OP a bit to make this more clear?

Do you have something in mind?

Well I have thought that using HR made my spinning a bit slower, getting 2000 in spinner vs 8000 with nomod, I have thought that because of HR, the spin is heavier but awards higher points thus even with 2000 it still awards a final score of 8000
This is just a theory, it could be the reason the scores are the same and/or different even if the spinner score was higher and/or lower.
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HR does make the spinner 'heavier', resulting in less spinner bonus, however spinner bonus is not included in the score modifiers.
If you spin 2000, you get 2000 regardless of mods.
Well, not 2000, you get 300+300(multiplier affected?)+spinnerbonus. 300 for hitting the spinner, 300 for finishing the spinner multiplied by the mods and then your spinnerbonus added on top.
As far as I'm aware, scoring bonus only works in lots of 1000
Go play levan polkka (the spinner map), it'll give you a good idea as to how spinners and spinnerbonus works)

EZ is the opposite, the spinner is 'lightened' and gives you more bonus for the same spins - at least, this is what I've seen. I cannot really confirm it (about EZ).
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Now my question is: How could Sven archieve to spin over 477 spm and get 100 points more than a normal player can get?
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Sven didn't, if you watch the replay (missing, as #1 appears to have randomly changed) they spin around 450.
The question, is how come 20,000 spinner bonus isn't enough to beat 18,000 spinner bonus (even when full mod), when both plays are SS and there's only one spinner in the map.
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Idk if these issues are the same, but I had an issue with a score on this map.
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The issue is there are no spinners, yet #1 got #1 with 40 point lead, so why did he get #1? You cant get 40+ points from thin air.
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Idk if these issues are the same, but I had an issue with a score on this map.
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The issue is there are no spinners, yet #1 got #1 with 40 point lead, so why did he get #1? You cant get 40+ points from thin air.

He could've use an old client/different release stream which caused his score to be calculated higher than normal.
Such as here that combo aren't the same in different streams

That's the only thing that can cause something like this.
I noticed his play was made in 12/12/2015
while the 2nd place was made in 5/13/2016
There's no doubt that since he used an old client that it could've cause a note (probably a tick of a slider) to have his score higher.
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Kao wrote:
Viperial wrote:
Idk if these issues are the same, but I had an issue with a score on this map.
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The issue is there are no spinners, yet #1 got #1 with 40 point lead, so why did he get #1? You cant get 40+ points from thin air.

He could've use an old client/different release stream which caused his score to be calculated higher than normal.
Such as here that combo aren't the same in different streams

That's the only thing that can cause something like this.
I noticed his play was made in 12/12/2015
while the 2nd place was made in 5/13/2016
There's no doubt that since he used an old client that it could've cause a note (probably a tick of a slider) to have his score higher.


This might be true, I remember long ago seeing that he got an extra 40 points after the map was over, I don't see this right now so i might have to change release streams. Might be dreaming that time idk. If I changed release streams and Performed an HDDTHRFL SS and got 40 points then ill believe that.
Oh wait, you said old client. not old release stream. I guess that means that I wont be able to get #2nd place rip
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Welcome to the forums. Don't bump posts with nonsense please?
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Anything new in this matter?

P.S. I think that it just got automatically Archived again.
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