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Kohmi Hirose - Groovy! (Tv Size) [Taiko]

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JessiChan
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on martes, 22 de noviembre de 2016 at 21:38:54

Artist: Kohmi Hirose
Title: Groovy! (Tv Size)
Source: Card Captor Sakura
Tags: ending first season kero
BPM: 123
Filesize: 2032kb
Play Time: 01:04
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (1,98 stars, 155 notes)
  2. Kantan (1,31 stars, 75 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2,23 stars, 195 notes)
  4. Oni (2,92 stars, 261 notes)
Download: Kohmi Hirose - Groovy! (Tv Size)
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#3 BEATMAP


~BRAND-NEW LOVE SONG, HARE HARERUYA~♫


Estaryo
Hi here's my mod like i said at your Queue.
Keep in mind that its only the things I would change, you should check all i said for yourself first. I hope there are some things that help you.

General

  1. AiMod – Fine
  2. Timing – Fine
  3. Song Setup – I would switch Oni OD <-> HP (still havn't got why <4 star low bpm should be harder to acc than every >5 star map)
  4. Difficulty's – Fine

Kohmi Hirose - Groovy! (Kantan-Oni)

Kantan
  1. 00:37:016 (46) – i would switch this not to 00:39:943 and change to k for me ist supporting more there than at the other position.
Futsuu
  1. Diff seems fine. Only thing i have say, it may is too near to your muzu. Difference between Kantan/Futsuu is greater than Futsuu/Muzukashii. Am not sure if its important, but i anted to mention it at least.
Muzukashii
  1. 00:15:065 (44) – Adding KD (1/4 Gap) sounds fine there, would support the beat there.
  2. 00:30:675 (94) – same here
  3. 00:35:065 (107) – don't get why DDKDD, the Vocals are DDDDK (or reverse) the beat is KDKDK. Would Change the Finisher (111) to K rest is up to you.
  4. 00:41:284 (118,119) – I would keep it 1/3 like in your Oni, cause 1/4 dont feel right
Oni
  1. 00:35:065 (138) – Same like in your Muzu. 141,142 shouldnt be the same.
  2. 00:37:016 (143) – if you want to support the bass there then i would prefer placing the note at 00:37:504 to support all 4 bassnotes playing there. /may edit Pattern then.
  3. 00:39:943 (150) - would change it to k to support drums and add a d before to get a kdddk pattern.
Topic Starter
JessiChan

Estaryo wrote:

Hi here's my mod like i said at your Queue.
Keep in mind that its only the things I would change, you should check all i said for yourself first. I hope there are some things that help you.

Accepted: O
Rejected: X

General

  1. AiMod – Fine
  2. Timing – Fine
  3. Song Setup – I would switch Oni OD <-> HP (still havn't got why <4 star low bpm should be harder to acc than every >5 star map)
  4. Difficulty's – Fine

Kohmi Hirose - Groovy! (Kantan-Oni)

Kantan
  1. 00:37:016 (46) – i would switch this not to 00:39:943 and change to k for me ist supporting more there than at the other position. O Okay, but is better as d
Futsuu
  1. Diff seems fine. Only thing i have say, it may is too near to your muzu. Difference between Kantan/Futsuu is greater than Futsuu/Muzukashii. Am not sure if its important, but i anted to mention it at least. Thanks!


Muzukashii
  1. 00:15:065 (44) – Adding KD (1/4 Gap) sounds fine there, would support the beat there. X No, because the players are starting to play muzukashii begin to get used to the triplets, then it is best to be 1 single color.
  2. 00:30:675 (94) – same here X Same ^
  3. 00:35:065 (107) – don't get why DDKDD, the Vocals are DDDDK (or reverse) the beat is KDKDK. Would Change the Finisher (111) to K rest is up to you. O I put it because clearly the battery does that sound, but changed the finisher, thanks.
  4. 00:41:284 (118,119) – I would keep it 1/3 like in your Oni, cause 1/4 dont feel right O Yes xD Sorry i was wrong here.
Oni
  1. 00:35:065 (138) – Same like in your Muzu. 141,142 shouldnt be the same. O
  2. 00:37:016 (143) – if you want to support the bass there then i would prefer placing the note at 00:37:504 to support all 4 bassnotes playing there. /may edit Pattern then. X I like it as it is
  3. 00:39:943 (150) - would change it to k to support drums and add a d before to get a kdddk pattern. O Only change the k, thanks.
snowball112
Hello, m4m from your queue.

Kantan
  1. some vocal+instrument lands on the red tick, how about 00:00:919 (1,2) - Dk and remove 00:02:870 for better fit?
  2. 00:03:358 (5,6) - kd.
  3. Instrument is strong on 00:05:309 - , a k would sound nice here.
  4. I think it sounds better if you don't stack 3-note 1/1 patterns after each other in the part from 00:08:723 - as this section is relatively calm. I suggest you remove 00:09:699 and 00:25:309 and change 00:10:187 and 00:25:797 to k.
  5. You can emphasize instrument+vocal better if you move 00:22:870 to 00:23:114 and 00:23:358 to 00:23:845.
  6. You can remove 00:37:016 and 00:38:967 for the calm part here. And 00:40:918 (50,51) should be kd.
  7. 00:43:601 - finish? Sound is similar to 00:44:821.

Futsuu
I think you can reduce notes by 20-30 for a more even spread, kantan-futsuu is a bit large compared to futsuu-muzu and muzu-oni. And because a bit of variety would be nice in futsuu, currently the parts feel a bit similar.
  1. 00:00:919 - D?
  2. 00:02:382 - remove
  3. 00:03:601 - ^
  4. 00:06:528 - remove the slider, at low bpm the ticks snap to 1/8.
  5. You could try something like this cursor on 00:11:650 for this part to reduce notes.
  6. 00:46:284 kkd sounds better here for the low sound on the last note imo.
  7. 00:50:431 (119,120) - I think you can remove both of these to have a small break here.
  8. 00:51:406 - and 00:52:382 - should both be D for the finish and 00:53:601 K, the cymbal is much stronger there.

Muzukashii
  1. 00:02:138 - move to 00:02:382 and change 00:02:626 to d.
  2. 00:06:528 - remove, see futsuu
  3. You should try to remove 00:09:943 and move 00:10:431 to 00:10:675 for better fit with vocal+instrument. Similar for the pattern at 00:24:821.
  4. remove 00:11:650, same reason as ^
  5. 00:15:065 - your'e missing some strong instrument beats here.
  6. The triple should start from 00:16:040 and not from 00:15:797. You have 1/4 on 00:16:162 not 00:15:918.
  7. You should probably remove finish (this note is inconsistent across your diffs) and move 00:24:089 to 00:24:211 and change to d.
  8. 00:39:699 - remove
  9. Why is there no 1/4 from 00:47:992 when there is clear 1/4 in the music? And there should not be a note on 00:48:845. You should try to have a space after 00:48:723 and map to the strong instrument at 00:49:211.
  10. You should move 00:53:479 to 00:52:992 and have a triple here and use a finish on 00:53:601 instead.
  11. 00:50:918 - remove and 00:51:162 - kD.

Oni
Main problem: 1/4 not fitting to the actual 1/4 in the music
  1. Try moving 00:02:138 to 00:02:382 and 00:02:626 d. And 00:01:650 (4,5,6) would sound much better as d triple to blend better with the music. Ok you're mapping vocal, but there is nothing else to back up the use of k so it sounds too strong imo.
  2. Why is there 1/4 from 00:11:894 and not from 00:12:382 where there is more support? The guitar at 00:14:821 could also have some 1/4 instead of the vocal. Because the vocal lands on 1/2 and there is nothing else to support the triples you use.
  3. 00:32:016 - this note should be on 00:31:772.
  4. 00:48:845 - move to 00:48:114. And you're missing some very strong beats at 00:49:211.
  5. 00:52:260 - move to 00:52:016 and 00:52:382 D.
I think the problem is that you're mapping too much of the vocal. You could try to combine vocal+instrument more, I think it would look nicer, but that's just my opinion.

Good luck
Topic Starter
JessiChan

snowball112 wrote:

Hello, m4m from your queue.

Accepted: O
Rejected: X

Kantan
  1. some vocal+instrument lands on the red tick, how about 00:00:919 (1,2) - Dk and remove 00:02:870 for better fit? O But i change this 00:02:870 (4) - To d and I delete this 00:03:358 -
  2. 00:03:358 (5,6) - kd. O
  3. Instrument is strong on 00:05:309 - , a k would sound nice here. O
  4. I think it sounds better if you don't stack 3-note 1/1 patterns after each other in the part from 00:08:723 - as this section is relatively calm. I suggest you remove 00:09:699 and 00:25:309 and change 00:10:187 and 00:25:797 to k. X I don't like how hear this, sorry. :c
  5. You can emphasize instrument+vocal better if you move 00:22:870 to 00:23:114 and 00:23:358 to 00:23:845. O
  6. You can remove 00:37:016 and 00:38:967 for the calm part here. And 00:40:918 (50,51) should be kd. O Nice
  7. 00:43:601 - finish? Sound is similar to 00:44:821.
O

Futsuu
I think you can reduce notes by 20-30 for a more even spread, kantan-futsuu is a bit large compared to futsuu-muzu and muzu-oni. And because a bit of variety would be nice in futsuu, currently the parts feel a bit similar.
  1. 00:00:919 - D? O
  2. 00:02:382 - remove O
  3. 00:03:601 - ^ O
  4. 00:06:528 - remove the slider, at low bpm the ticks snap to 1/8. O
  5. You could try something like this cursor on 00:11:650 for this part to reduce notes. X Sorry but I like the way it is :(
  6. 00:46:284 kkd sounds better here for the low sound on the last note imo. O Yes! sound much better
  7. 00:50:431 (119,120) - I think you can remove both of these to have a small break here. X It is very empty (for me) I understand that it is better to place a break for new players But in this case I do not like it. You could remove notes from somewhere else or do it differently.
  8. 00:51:406 - and 00:52:382 - should both be D for the finish and 00:53:601 K, the cymbal is much stronger there.
O

Muzukashii
  1. 00:02:138 - move to 00:02:382 and change 00:02:626 to d. O
  2. 00:06:528 - remove, see futsuu X It sounds empty, to me.
  3. You should try to remove 00:09:943 and move 00:10:431 to 00:10:675 for better fit with vocal+instrument. Similar for the pattern at 00:24:821. O Nice, I like.
  4. remove 00:11:650, same reason as ^ X I like this pattern. It is also a muzukashii more than the song is very slow, I do not think there are problems.
  5. 00:15:065 - your'e missing some strong instrument beats here. O Fixed
  6. The triple should start from 00:16:040 and not from 00:15:797. You have 1/4 on 00:16:162 not 00:15:918. O
  7. You should probably remove finish (this note is inconsistent across your diffs) and move 00:24:089 to 00:24:211 and change to d.
  8. 00:39:699 - remove O
  9. Why is there no 1/4 from 00:47:992 when there is clear 1/4 in the music? And there should not be a note on 00:48:845. You should try to have a space after 00:48:723 and map to the strong instrument at 00:49:211. O
  10. You should move 00:53:479 to 00:52:992 and have a triple here and use a finish on 00:53:601 instead. O
  11. 00:50:918 - remove and 00:51:162 - kD.
O

Oni
Main problem: 1/4 not fitting to the actual 1/4 in the music
  1. Try moving 00:02:138 to 00:02:382 and 00:02:626 d. And 00:01:650 (4,5,6) would sound much better as d triple to blend better with the music. Ok you're mapping vocal, but there is nothing else to back up the use of k so it sounds too strong imo. O
  2. Why is there 1/4 from 00:11:894 and not from 00:12:382 O where there is more support? The guitar at 00:14:821 could also have some 1/4 instead of the vocal. Because the vocal lands on 1/2 and there is nothing else to support the triples you use. X I want to give a little space here to have consistency with what comes after.
  3. 00:32:016 - this note should be on 00:31:772. O
  4. 00:48:845 - move to 00:48:114. And you're missing some very strong beats at 00:49:211. O
  5. 00:52:260 - move to 00:52:016 and 00:52:382 D. O
I think the problem is that you're mapping too much of the vocal. You could try to combine vocal+instrument more, I think it would look nicer, but that's just my opinion. I see, thank you for advice :3

Good luck
IControl
iControl's m4m

Kantan



00:23:358 (28) - move this to here 00:23:114 - to follow the vocal like you did at 00:21:650 (26) -

00:41:894 (48) - remove and replace with slider to here 00:43:358 - It matches the vocal better here in my opinion

00:46:772 - I thought u were gonna finish it D:


Futsuu



00:10:431 (23) - move this to here 00:10:675 - to match the bass more. I think the bass is pretty loud and stands out so these should be mapped too

00:12:870 (29) - I'm guessing your mapping to the vocal but it feels weird when i play it move to here 00:12:617 -

00:14:333 (34) - remove? to match this pattern 00:10:431 -

00:58:967 (140) - change to d? d K is a lot easier to play imo and it sounds lower


Muzukashii


00:10:675 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - This might be a bit to over mapped for muzukashii. Try not mapping everything to the vocals and breaking it down to the bass and drums for this part I would:

00:10:918 (29) - remove
00:11:650 (31) - remove
00:12:870 (35) - move this to here 00:12:626 -
00:13:601 (37) - remove

00:24:211 (69) - change to d kd is to complex of a pattern for muzu players

00:16:040 (43,44,45) - I think the drums are to feint to noticed try moving this to here 00:16:284 - and add a d here 00:16:040 -

00:17:016 (48) - change to k to be consistent to your other parts

01:01:406 (183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - this is probly to hard for muzu players try removing and adding a spinner?


Oni



00:10:065 (38) - this could be removed to give the drums and vocals more emphasis

00:10:675 - please consider mapping not complete to the vocal and maybe a bit to the bass by adding a note here

00:31:650 (125,126,127) - try ddk? sounds lower than higher

00:46:894 (177) - remove to give more emphasis to the vocals and drums

00:49:211 - this could be a good place for a stream. I would do


00:49:211 - add ddddk till here 00:49:699 (190) -


00:50:431 (194) - change to k? works well with the trumpet

00:54:699 (213) - remove if you agreed with my last part

maybe find some more places for streams in the kai section

Good luck :)
Topic Starter
JessiChan

IControl wrote:

iControl's m4m

Fixed: O
Rejected: X

Kantan



00:23:358 (28) - move this to here 00:23:114 - to follow the vocal like you did at 00:21:650 (26) - O

00:41:894 (48) - remove and replace with slider to here 00:43:358 - It matches the vocal better here in my opinion X Not because the slider is 1/8 is very difficult to give them (for they)

00:46:772 - I thought u were gonna finish it D: WTF It erased everything I had D':


Futsuu



00:10:431 (23) - move this to here 00:10:675 - to match the bass more. I think the bass is pretty loud and stands out so these should be mapped too O

00:12:870 (29) - I'm guessing your mapping to the vocal but it feels weird when i play it move to here 00:12:617 - X I'm sorry, for me it sounds perfectly. >3<

00:14:333 (34) - remove? to match this pattern 00:10:431 - X I do not like :c sorry

00:58:967 (140) - change to d? d K is a lot easier to play imo and it sounds lower O


Muzukashii


00:10:675 (28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - This might be a bit to over mapped for muzukashii. Try not mapping everything to the vocals and breaking it down to the bass and drums for this part I would:

00:10:918 (29) - remove
00:11:650 (31) - remove
00:12:870 (35) - move this to here 00:12:626 -
00:13:601 (37) - remove O I changed but this form: https://puu.sh/sqPV0/4d9452de40.png

00:24:211 (69) - change to d kd is to complex of a pattern for muzu players X I think it's more confusing as well

00:16:040 (43,44,45) - I think the drums are to feint to noticed try moving this to here 00:16:284 - and add a d here 00:16:040 - X Sorry, I rejected it because when you tell me to delete notes, they change the numbers these and the minutes they mark me they do not give.

00:17:016 (48) - change to k to be consistent to your other parts O

01:01:406 (183,184,185,186,187,188,189,190,191,192,193,194,195) - this is probly to hard for muzu players try removing and adding a spinner? X I like the way it is

Oni



00:10:065 (38) - this could be removed to give the drums and vocals more emphasis X No, sorry :?
00:10:675 - please consider mapping not complete to the vocal and maybe a bit to the bass by adding a note here O

00:31:650 (125,126,127) - try ddk? sounds lower than higher O

00:46:894 (177) - remove to give more emphasis to the vocals and drums O

00:49:211 - this could be a good place for a stream. I would do O


00:49:211 - add ddddk till here 00:49:699 (190) - O i put kdddk


00:50:431 (194) - change to k? works well with the trumpet

00:54:699 (213) - remove if you agreed with my last part

maybe find some more places for streams in the kai section Sure!

Good luck :) Thank you!
frukoyurdakul
Hello, I've said i'll mod your both maps so here is the 2nd one.

I think kantan and futsuu diffs are ok.

Muzukashii
00:17:016 (49) - d
00:38:967 (115) - Since you are following the vocals, i think this is excess.
00:50:918 - add d

Oni
00:44:577 (169,170,171,172) - this is 1/4, not 1/6 (based on drums.)
00:48:967 (189) - k because of higher vocals.

Nice mapset, good luck~
Topic Starter
JessiChan

frukoyurdakul wrote:

Hello, I've said i'll mod your both maps so here is the 2nd one.

Fixed= O
Rejected= X

I think kantan and futsuu diffs are ok.

Muzukashii
00:17:016 (49) - d O
00:38:967 (115) - Since you are following the vocals, i think this is excess. O
00:50:918 - add d X I like so

Oni
00:44:577 (169,170,171,172) - this is 1/4, not 1/6 (based on drums.) X It sounds good, I do not think there is a problem with that. In addition it is consistent with: 00:07:504 - This part.
00:48:967 (189) - k because of higher vocals. O

Nice mapset, good luck~ Thank you for modding!
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