Signum wrote:

m4m

00:38:033 (1,2) - Unstack these. It's quite non-aesthetical.
@ no its intended and used in every similar place there
00:58:519 (1,2) - Nevertheless, stack these two.
@ ok
00:59:290 (1) - Blanket?
@ no, all the sliders are sharp there
00:59:976 (1) - Remove new combo.
@ ok
01:02:033 (3,4,3,4) - This is quite weird pattern. It should be same distance snap as you did before.
@ its ok, music intensity is increasing
01:20:547 (1,2,3) - Patterns like these looks like a copypasta. Use 1/2 reverse sliders instead.
@ what...
01:25:347 (3,4) - You've built this pattern on symmetry. You should make a mirrored version of the pattern before.
@ nice find, fixed in a other way
02:12:662 - Suggestion for a preview point.
@ it used to be like this, but i changed it
02:44:205 (1,2) - Same as 00:38:033 (1,2) -
@ intended
02:55:176 (1,1) - Not enough recovery time between these
@ its ok
Otherwise seems fine.
good luck

Alphabet wrote:

Hey, sorry for the late m4m

Pareidolia

1. 00:32:547 (5,6) - There should be a NC here like 00:27:062 (1,2) - .
   @ yea
2. 00:32:547 (5,6) - ^
   @ ok
3. 00:37:862 (3,1) - Improve blankets
   @ ok
4. 00:55:519 (4,5,6,1) - Reading this while playing was a bit annoying, I couldn't read the triple at first. I think you should space out the 1/1 notes.
   @ made them stacked
5. 00:57:062 (2) - Move this a bit over to the right to make it symmetrical?
   @ fixed
6. 01:03:747 (4) - Ctrl + G and maybe move it to make it flow with the pattern you currently have.
   @ yea i forgot about it.
7. 01:47:976 (1,2) - Space these two objects out more, you spaced out 01:45:233 (1,2) - and 01:42:490 (1,2) - more than this.
   @ done
8. 01:50:033 (1,2,3) - The vocal is 1/3 not 1/4
   @ its intended
9. 03:40:090 (2,1) - Improve the blanket hete.
   @ fixed
10. 04:02:033 (4,5,6,1) - same issue as 00:55:519 (4,5,6,1)
    @ fixed
11. 04:10:605 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Space these equally, I think it looks neater.
    @ it spaced with 1.5x ds tool.

Good luck with this map

Reimoe wrote:

The song is nice, but I think some of tripples in your map are overmapped like
01:17:805 (1,2,3) - and 01:19:176 (1,2,3) - makes me extremely hard to ACC
@ well... ive moved them for a bit...
together with an overmapped stream 03:15:747 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - here
03:50:376 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - and here
@ oh shit... well it fits pretty nice so w/e i guess
Aimod: 01:05:118 (7) - unsnapped object
@ what... its snapped
01:05:462 (9,10) - blanket?
@ what do u mean... lmao
02:58:262 (2,3,4,5,6) - inperfect star
@ intended
02:59:976 (5,8) - shall have same X coordinate
@ yea ty
and 02:59:633 (3,4,6,7) - shall be symmetric
@ yea ty
just move 02:59:633 (3) - to X=36 and 02:59:633 (3) - to X=136
03:29:462 (1,1,1) - inconsistent space,comparing with 03:31:176 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
@ fixed the second one instead
04:13:690 (4) - I think the largest jump ds should be used in this kiai part instead of keeping jump ds all the same for the whole map. It will make the map more challenging and fun to play.
@ well.. its increasing with the time actually...

_Yiiiii wrote:

Hi, M4M~
I enjoy modding app maps lol

[Gloom]
00:08:890 (4,5) - Ctrl+J so 00:08:547 (1,2,3,4) - don't create a strange pattern.
@ no, it is a copy from 00:03:062 (1,2,3,4,5) -

00:57:233 (3) - NC
@ seems good

00:58:090 (2) - Remove it.
@ ok

01:15:747 (5,6,7,8,1) - I don't know what to say about this pattern, but intuition tells me it will be better if you move 5 it left. Make it sth like this 01:18:490 (5,6,7,8) -
@ ok nice find

01:17:119 (3) - There's a odd sound so make it a zigzag slider.
@ okay

01:40:262 (2,3) - Ctrl+G
@ no
02:19:519 (1,3) - 3 shouldn't be at a position for blanket, and the overlap doesn't look well.
@ i dont understand
03:06:833 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - They'd better have different DS.
@ i dont think so, it will break the combos pretty badly

Composing is too mess, and I don't know why you use old style sliders like this 01:05:462 (9) -
@ i like them
By the way, I couldn't find out a certain rule for jumps in this map, you'd better spend some time polishing jumps.
@ ok thanks!
Good luck~

1. the rhythm and arrangement are little monotonousm, maybe you can add some special surprise?
2. I post a sample in the following mod, hope that can give you some new idea

1. 01:05:805 (10) better blanket, move the second point left 2 grids
2. 01:06:833 (1,2,3) same DS
3. 01:28:776 maybe NC?
4. 01:49:519 (1) stacke with 01:48:490 (2) ?
5. 02:01:690 - 02:12:662 this part sounds like the note is faster than the music ? umm.. does it need a red point here? i'm not sure
6. 02:12:662 - 02:18:147 this part can be more rhythm like..
   02:13:262、02:14:633 put a note (1/4) and 02:17:462 delete slider put 5 notes in 1/4, end up 02:17:805
7. or you can put this file directly into your folder https://puu.sh/rKuCI/833b1828e3.osu
   I only changed the rhythm in 02:12:662 - 02:18:147
8. 04:17:462 (3,5,7) make them like this?
   
   SPOILER

   

_Yiiiii wrote:

02:19:519 (1,3) - 3 shouldn't be at a position for blanket, and the overlap doesn't look well.

_Yiiiii wrote:

_Yiiiii wrote:

02:19:519 (1,3) - 3 shouldn't be at a position for blanket, and the overlap doesn't look well.

That means it should create a blanket but it doesn't, so you will see
02:19:519 (1,3) - Blanket
frequently in other mods

Azure wrote:

Hello,for M4M

[General]

1. the rhythm and arrangement are little monotonousm, maybe you can add some special surprise?
2. I post a sample in the following mod, hope that can give you some new idea

[Gloom]

1. 01:05:805 (10) better blanket, move the second point left 2 grids
   @ fixed
2. 01:06:833 (1,2,3) same DS
   @ fixed
3. 01:28:776 maybe NC?
   @ nah
4. 01:49:519 (1) stacke with 01:48:490 (2) ?
   @ ok
5. 02:01:690 - 02:12:662 this part sounds like the note is faster than the music ? umm.. does it need a red point here? i'm not sure
   @ idk, i feel like its good as it is
6. 02:12:662 - 02:18:147 this part can be more rhythm like..
   02:13:262、02:14:633 put a note (1/4) and 02:17:462 delete slider put 5 notes in 1/4, end up 02:17:805
7. or you can put this file directly into your folder https://puu.sh/rKuCI/833b1828e3.osu
   I only changed the rhythm in 02:12:662 - 02:18:147
   @ i dont really like it
8. 04:17:462 (3,5,7) make them like this?
   
   SPOILER

   
   @ seems good

that's all,good luck

1. 00:03:576 (5,1) - try giving these higher spacing cuz of the emphasized sound in the bg at big white tick like u did at 00:09:062 (5,1) -
2. 00:11:290 (3,4,5,6,7) - What exactly are u following here? i can only hear some vocals which are snapped to 1/3 NOT 1/4
3. 00:54:833 (1,1,1) - u dont need this nc spam at all
4. 00:55:862 - yeahj reduce the nc spam in this section , its lame to add nc for every sound change
5. 01:05:462 (9) - NC this
6. 01:28:776 (5) - ^
7. 01:50:376 - i wonder why this whistle is skipped which is easily noticeable while u mapped sounds like 01:43:690 - 01:44:205 - etc which are hardly audible
8. 03:51:405 (5) - nc
9. 04:39:919 (3) - isnt this slider supposed to be at 04:40:090 - instead?

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

[gloom]

1. 00:03:576 (5,1) - try giving these higher spacing cuz of the emphasized sound in the bg at big white tick like u did at 00:09:062 (5,1) -
   @ ok done
2. 00:11:290 (3,4,5,6,7) - What exactly are u following here? i can only hear some vocals which are snapped to 1/3 NOT 1/4
   @ background increasing
3. 00:54:833 (1,1,1) - u dont need this nc spam at all
   @ done
4. 00:55:862 - yeahj reduce the nc spam in this section , its lame to add nc for every sound change
   @ ok
5. 01:05:462 (9) - NC this
   @ ok
6. 01:28:776 (5) - ^
   @ ok
7. 01:50:376 - i wonder why this whistle is skipped which is easily noticeable while u mapped sounds like 01:43:690 - 01:44:205 - etc which are hardly audible
   @ resnapepd it to 1/3
8. 03:51:405 (5) - nc
   @ ok
9. 04:39:919 (3) - isnt this slider supposed to be at 04:40:090 - instead?
   @ its ok

Can take alot of structure improvement if going for rank
@ will try my best to do so
gl~

Natsu wrote:

Some feedback via chat

aaa

2016-10-17 06:03 Natsu: 00:11:633 (7,8,1) - 7 and 8 is bigger than 8 and 1, but 1 is alot stronger than the other 2 beats
@ will remap anyways
2016-10-17 06:05 Natsu: this minor but still hurt a bit the design of the map 00:22:947 (1,2) - 1 is almost touching the hp bar and 2 is touching the accuracy thing
@ will talk about it later
2016-10-17 06:14 Natsu: https://puu.sh/rLY6P.osu
@ applied with minor changes
2016-10-17 06:17 Natsu: 01:40:262 (2,3) - why all of these have big spacing, since the music is really calm o.,O
2016-10-17 06:18 Natsu: Is almost the same spacing as 02:02:376 (1,2) -
@ fixed
2016-10-17 06:20 Natsu: 02:44:205 (1,2) - btw some sliders are bugged
@ idk man, i cant see the problem there lol
2016-10-17 06:23 Natsu: 02:55:176 (1) - here you can add a circle and start the spinner 1/4 later
2016-10-17 06:23 Natsu: since you can't add hitsounds at the spinner start
@ fixed and then reapplied, cuz it feels really odd
2016-10-17 06:24 Natsu: 03:43:519 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this probably the main complain i have about your map
@ fixed
2016-10-17 06:25 Natsu: 04:09:576 (1,1) - NCs aren't needed at all
@ fixed
2016-10-17 06:27 Natsu: 03:24:319 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - for example the pattern looks really old fashioned
@ remeped
2016-10-17 06:35 -himei: 03:35:805 (4,5,6) - this breaks the rhythm i guess
@ fixed...
2016-10-17 06:35 Natsu: 03:41:805 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - but this is so straigh, you could add some spicy to it!
@ probably fixed
2016-10-17 06:38 Natsu: btw all the intro is really nice until 00:11:976 (1) -
@ will remap it
2016-10-17 06:43 Natsu: https://puu.sh/rLZdU.osu
@ ^
2016-10-17 06:46 Natsu: 01:01:347 (1,2,3,4) - 4 looks out of pattern
@ fixed
2016-10-17 06:48 Natsu: 02:27:233 (6) - and this things really trigger me alot, tbh I care alot about the design and visuals, so i find touching game elements as hp bar really bad
@ fixed
2016-10-17 06:49 Natsu: 02:34:947 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too straigh
@ fixed
2016-10-17 06:52 Natsu: 02:51:919 (6) - slider tail is mapped in to the main melody of the song
@ fixed

1. Your spinners are hella long tbh, see if you can maybe reduce them and let then fade into a short break? Spinners that are that long make it seem like there's not much of a break between the section before the spinner and the section after.

1. 00:03:062 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - how come you use equal spacing throughout all of this? imo the distance between 00:03:233 (3,4,5) these three should be smaller than between 00:03:576 (5,1) these two.
2. 01:24:662 (1,2,3,4) - even out spacing between these?
3. 01:28:776 (5) - nc?
4. 01:39:747 (1) - is this a bezier slider what year am i in
5. 02:17:462 (1) - move this to the left some?
6. 02:19:519 (1,3) - blanket
7. 02:23:976 (1) - starting here I don't like how the spacing is so big though the song is relatively calm...

Logic Agent wrote:

hi m4m stuff

[General]

1. Your spinners are hella long tbh, see if you can maybe reduce them and let then fade into a short break? Spinners that are that long make it seem like there's not much of a break between the section before the spinner and the section after.
   @ they are checked by 2 bns so I assume they are ok

[Gloom]

1. 00:03:062 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - how come you use equal spacing throughout all of this? imo the distance between 00:03:233 (3,4,5) these three should be smaller than between 00:03:576 (5,1) these two.
   @ its following the structure and is pretty accurate.
2. 01:24:662 (1,2,3,4) - even out spacing between these?
   @ fixed i guess
3. 01:28:776 (5) - nc?
   @ well its the second time somebody mentioning this, ill keep it as it is till someone will bring this up again
4. 01:39:747 (1) - is this a bezier slider what year am i in
   @ idk what to do with this, probably remake all of them in this part
5. 02:17:462 (1) - move this to the left some?
   @ why? its for a star pattern tho
6. 02:19:519 (1,3) - blanket
   @ ill remove this slider
7. 02:23:976 (1) - starting here I don't like how the spacing is so big though the song is relatively calm...
   @ kiai time, and its the main theme of the song

okay tbh I can't really go on because I don't like this song. Sorry if the mod is kinda short lol

CanadianBaka wrote:

yo

a few things:

[*]map should be in pending, if your waiting for BN to check it, or just mods all together! xD

[*]aesthetics have been greatly improved, sinse the last time I checked this map, good work. w

[*]00:22:947 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - I'm mostly concerned about these sliders in your map, I know that they fit the song PERFECTLY but you use way too big spacing, the song isn't dramatic at all, yet these notes are the furthest placed apart from your whole map? Maybe ctrl + s and lower the distance between these
@ its ok, maybe ill make them smaller
[*]background.jpg remove that from your map, it's an unused file
@ redownload the map

[Gloom]

00:01:005 (1) - put red anchor down the slider a bit, for a more pleasing aesthetical look?
@ ok
00:05:119 (3,4,5,6) - I don't really like your idea here, although it looks fine, it honestly doesn't flow that well, and would be better as seperated jumps
@ well it plays good, i dont really see the problem there
00:06:490 (1) - same thing as before oh wait it's a pattern, still, shouldn't 00:06:147 (1,2,3) - these notes be aiming directly at the start of 00:06:490 (1) - this slider?
@ idk
00:10:605 (1) - so, here you map to the vocalist, but 00:11:290 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - here you don't? it would make more sense to make 00:10:605 (1) - this 2 1/2 sliders and remove 00:11:119 (2) - this note
@ its actually pretty fine, remove the slider and listen to the song
00:11:805 (8) - ctrl + g for a better look?
@ no its should be like this
00:18:490 (2,3) - here you all of a sudden stack, when before hand (and after) you don't use stacks
@ its according to the melody
00:21:232 (2,3) - ^
@ ^
00:55:862 (3,4) - would make better sense if these were identical
@ no, but ive changed it anyways
00:58:605 (2,1) - ^
@ same
00:59:290 (1,2,1) - so like, why exactly are these spaced more than 00:56:547 (4,5,1) - these even though they are the same sound?
@ ok changed it
01:04:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is great! (I just like to highlight things I like)
well, thats it from me!
Good luck with approving this! I would like to see more approved mapsets these days (marathons)

-himei wrote:

no its bcuz your are lazy

Good luck with the map!

FrostxE wrote:

General
- The whole offsets need to be +10 from the one here. (1005 -> 1015)
@ i think its ok as it is
- drum samplesets don't suit the majority parts of this song. Normal hitsounds feel much better compared to drum.
@ ^
Gloom
This difficulty is a mess, they are full of jumps that I completely failed to understand why they are.
@ well... idk, its up to BNs and QAT
00:11:976 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - if you intend to make a stack leniency properly in the center of the screen, use stacking function on the top left -> View -> Stacking to show where you need to place to make them stack properly. The current ones at 00:12:319 (2) - actually starts on next to middle a bit top left which I think it shouldn't be what you wanted while you set all symmetric stuffs for the other sliders in this part.
@ i have no idea why is that so fucked, ive never used stacking.
this is how it looks like for me https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6381459
00:17:805 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - same
@ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6381466
01:05:118 (7) - unsnapped
@ its snapped lmao https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6381473
03:06:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This is going to be a problematic pattern to most of players with annoying slider misses while they can be made better for playability experience. 1/8 sliders spaced are too much for this.

While other mods might not tell you their honest, I am going to do that this map may better fit the Loved or Approval category. The major problem that I see objectively isn't about copy-paste patterns, but spacings used in the song are random and widened just for the sake of difficulty spiked. The easiest examples to explain as to why they are random is the spacings in kiai parts (which means more intense) are pretty the same as the spacings in non-kiai parts (which means less intense). I am not going to point out all of them but showing some examples I think they do not fit at all.
00:22:947 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - look at that picture, can you make them easier than it should be when the mapped notes are even stronger than kiai parts

SPOILER

@ well... it fits to the song pretty well, it is interesting to play and fits to the bass, but honestly i cant find any other pattern to fit there.
01:51:919 (4,1,2,3,4,1) - why jump in this silent part?
01:54:147 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:56:719 (2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:58:776 (4,1,2,3,4) - ^
02:00:833 (2,3,4,5) - ^
@ it used to be 1/2, or something. but then after some mods i realized that it should be mapped into some basic patterns.
02:01:690 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - these are the perfect example what you should have done to this mapset, having them progressing from the start to end with gradually increasing spacings this way along with the music is amazing
02:23:633 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't think this part fit with large jump this way
@ it is a kiai time and it it should be spaced because of repetetive melody so it will be not that boring to play and also its ok due to this SR

Nherantelon wrote:

Hi, from your modding queue !

[Gloom]00:10:605(1) : you have put this type of slider twice previously but this one hasn't the same cure, it looks quite bad
@ ok changed
00:11:290(3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 1) : since the slider isn't aligned with the stream, have you consider making the stream like an inverted S to align everything ?
@ yea nice idea but idk yet how to make it good
00:17:376(2) i would put this circle near x=186;y=264 to fit the two sliders next to
@ nah
00:28:776(1) : i don't like how you reuse your jump pattern. It is a good pattern but i feel more comfortable to play it 1 beat later. You should also find a way to delay the pattern from one beat imo
@ its ok
01:12:319(1, 2, 3) : there is a little align issue
@ idk what you talking about
01:18:833(6, 8) : it could be better with Ctrl+G, and also ajust the next triple position
02:09:233(1, 2) : this jump should go up since it goes up at 02:03:747
@ okay
02:11:976(1, 2) : this one should go up too like the previous one because music only gets more acute
@ idk about this
02:49:176(6) : a triplet over there would greatly improve the rythm
02:56:890 : have you consider making a slider there (and keep 02:57:062(2)) ?
@ nah
03:15:747(1, 2) : thoe objects are weirdly aligned, does it better or nothing imo
04:10:605(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) : perhaps too cruvy
04:39:919(3) : this slider has same pattern than others but not the same timing, and it's not because it is in the same combo that difference is clearly visible, what about changing a little bit its shape ?
@ i dont know, its just to fit the triangle pattern there tho.

I didn't find a lot of things to say on jump patterns and everything else since i cant play more than the first half^^
Hope it helped you !
@+

FrostxE wrote:

Gloom
00:11:976 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - if you intend to make a stack leniency properly in the center of the screen, use stacking function on the top left -> View -> Stacking to show where you need to place to make them stack properly. The current ones at 00:12:319 (2) - actually starts on next to middle a bit top left which I think it shouldn't be what you wanted while you set all symmetric stuffs for the other sliders in this part.
@ i have no idea why is that so fucked, ive never used stacking.
this is how it looks like for me https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6381459
00:17:805 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - same
@ https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6381466

This shows how ignorant you are by not checking what I stated on above. The one I am seeing is a complete full of stack that irritates the playing experience.

SPOILER

01:05:118 (7) - unsnapped
@ its snapped lmao https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6381473
It is unsnapped sorry. If you bother checking with AIMod, it shows you exactly what you overlook.

SPOILER

FrostxE wrote:

FrostxE wrote:

Gloom
Not surprising at all based on what you have replied to my mod post, an ignorant and defensive one that you were trying to be you. I can accept how your music interpretation is by trying to understand your subjective opinions on other parts that I don't find fit, but you find them fit. I won't bring them up here.
However, some objective matters I brought up above are clearly unrankable and unintentional yet you still tried to be you against the one I found unrankable without any explanation to that. This shows how ignorant you are, so as your mapping. If this map is going to be ranked by any BNs who deem it is ready for ranked, I will be contesting to its finale to take it down if it was still this far from what quality mapping should be.