17:38 -Tochi: Hello
17:38 Bakari: Hey
17:38 -Tochi: are you up for m4m?
17:39 Bakari: I don't take any m4m requests, sorry
17:39 -Tochi: i see :/
17:40 -Tochi: what about NM?
17:40 -Tochi: it's for a popped map
17:40 Bakari: Give that a try, but most probably I'll refuse since I am really low on motivation
17:40 -Tochi: okay, i hope the best! https://osu.ppy.sh/s/320504
17:41 Bakari: Geee, haven't you requested that one already?
17:41 -Tochi: i have? D:
17:41 -Tochi: i don't remember, sorry if i have :c
17:41 Bakari: I don't remember for sure
17:42 Bakari: I could check it when it was qualified
17:42 -Tochi: so i have to try and find another BN/QAT?
17:44 Bakari: What is its current icon?
17:45 -Tochi: popped
17:45 -Tochi: it was qualified last year
17:46 -Tochi: and i don't think Chaoslitz wants to support it again D:
17:46 Bakari: What made you think so?
17:48 -Tochi: Chaoslitz didn't accept my request last time i asked :/
17:48 -Tochi: and is busy with exams now
17:49 -Tochi: "Stop requesting until my exam ends, otherwise your request will be ignored even when I am free to mod"
17:53 Bakari: Give me like 15 minutes and I'll have a look into it
17:54 -Tochi: okay, i really appreciate it!
18:04 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/713190 Rameses B - Mountains (feat. Veela) [Mountain]]
18:05 Bakari: General stuff, but 02:53:617 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - this part here gives a huge spike in terms of difficulty. http://puu.sh/okl4I.jpg
18:05 Bakari: Are you sure you want that pattern here?
18:06 -Tochi: i think it fits with the song
18:07 -Tochi: i don't know if it would be better with less spacing
18:07 -Tochi: it kinsa builds up for the instense part after the stream
18:07 Bakari: If you think it is reasonable, than we are good to go
18:07 -Tochi: kinda*
18:07 -Tochi: okay
18:09 Bakari: I think sb/minimalist.png (the circle) has a bit of glitching on it's borders
18:10 Bakari: Yeah, it does. Probably because PS or other software you were using has cut some pixels out of it
18:10 Bakari: Or because there is not a single pixel of transparent border
18:11 -Tochi: yeah
18:11 -Tochi: i see that
18:11 -Tochi: i can fix it
18:11 Bakari: Cool
18:11 Bakari: I'll try to continue checking the SB now
18:12 -Tochi: okay
18:14 Bakari: May I ask you why sb/mountain2 and all it's shades are png files?
18:15 -Tochi: there's no reason to it
18:15 -Tochi: i can fix that
18:15 -Tochi: and rename it to jåg in the .osb quickly
18:15 -Tochi: jpG*
18:15 Bakari: Each png is about 0,8mb big or even heavier, using jpg can save us.. ehh, I'm bad at math but it'll be at least 2 megs of free space for sure
18:16 -Tochi: yup
18:16 -Tochi: im bad at math too dw
18:18 Bakari: 02:56:358 - have a look at the spectrum here
18:18 Bakari: Isn't it flashing too fast? At first it gave me an impression that something was broken
18:19 Bakari: Or is it just me?
18:20 -Tochi: let me take a look
18:21 -Tochi: i don't see it before 176444
18:21 -Tochi: 02:56:444 - *
18:21 -Tochi: the colors are going crazy lol
18:22 -Tochi: i could change this and make it more natiral
18:22 -Tochi: natural*
18:22 Bakari: It's your map, so you are free to do anything you believe to be a good thing for the map
18:25 -Tochi: hmm, i don't think it's necessary
18:25 -Tochi: it was my first SB using tools and all, so it might be a bit poor
18:25 -Tochi: but it's not bad enough to be changed
18:30 Bakari: I don't really get that mindset, since I myself would never let an imperfect map of mine lay in the Ranked section
18:30 Bakari: but oh well, I am here not to lecture you
18:33 -Tochi: hmm, i don't want to change it :<
18:33 -Tochi: brb, restarting, need to reload the sprites 100%
18:34 -Tochi: ok back
18:38 Bakari: 00:33:731 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the fact that each of the sliders has it's own number of repeats turns thins part into a guessing game
18:39 Bakari: How about replacing the slider with a single circle at 00:43:674 - where the beat actually is?
18:39 Bakari: I'd rather make it clickable, than have a slider starting on some ghosty note
18:39 -Tochi: yeah i will fix that
18:40 Bakari: 00:45:902 (1) - what made you use a 3/4 slider here, instead of an 1/2 slider and 2 notes? I'd prefer 00:46:074 - to have some more emphasis, rather than a plain slidertick
18:41 -Tochi: i don't think the repeat sliders are hard to get, they play well with the song, and that makes it easier to follow the rhythm on them
18:41 Bakari: but why not use sliders with the same amount of repeats?
18:41 -Tochi: i was following the vocal
18:42 Bakari: it's your right, let's move on
18:42 Bakari: 00:51:902 (3,4,5) - I do not hear any reason for those sliders to be extended. Care to explain?
18:42 -Tochi: if i use it with same repeats, it will only follow the vocal which is boring
18:43 Bakari: 00:57:731 (6) - certainly should not be extended.
18:43 -Tochi: i folloed the vocal there too, it's stronger in my ears
18:43 -Tochi: the beat here 00:52:159 - can be unmuted because there's a drum there, but it will sound weird to play
18:43 Bakari: But the vocals also have a clear and audible fade sound at 1/2 snap
18:44 -Tochi: hmm, i guess i could change it tbh
18:44 -Tochi: but not the first extended one since there's a beat on the end of it
18:44 Bakari: 01:04:159 (3) - can't really hear anything behind this circle
18:45 Bakari: 01:05:959 (1) - wouldn't it be better to slowdown this just like the previous slider?
18:45 Bakari: It still goes with the vocals, so slowing it down makes perfect sense
18:47 -Tochi: the drums there are stronger than the vocal, i could make a longer slider until the kiai starts
18:47 -Tochi: but the fast slider at the start of the kiai is too sudden after such a slow slider
18:48 Bakari: the kiai fountain is a good enough warning of a velocity change
18:48 Bakari: not to mention the music itself giving a good hint to the players
18:49 -Tochi: i could make the SV 0,60x at least
18:50 -Tochi: making it slower doesn't play that well with the flow
18:52 -Tochi: yeah, it feels good with 0,60x
18:54 Bakari: 02:30:290 (1) - any reason to curve it this way?
18:55 -Tochi: not really
18:55 -Tochi: it looks good like that in my eyes
18:55 -Tochi: and a bit unique
18:58 Bakari: But it has no connection with the actual sound
18:59 -Tochi: do u have another suggestion? :o
19:00 -Tochi: 04:09:302 (2,1) - this is unstacked, i just stacked it lol
19:02 Bakari: ever considered a plain arc-shaped or straight slider as an alternative?
19:03 -Tochi: yeah
19:03 Bakari: 02:33:048 (1) - you guessed it
19:04 Bakari: 02:34:759 (1,2,3,4,5) - they sound exactly the same, this would make more sense to keep spacing consistent
19:05 -Tochi: is this good.. http://puu.sh/okoJW/0f9b840ad9.jpg
19:05 Bakari: What is up with the curve in the end? What does it do?
19:06 Bakari: In my opinion it creates an unnatural break of flow/slowdown which has absolutely nothing to do with the song
19:06 -Tochi: x.x | let's just make it simple
19:06 -Tochi: arc-shaped
19:06 -Tochi: the third circle is not exactly the same sound as the other two
19:07 -Tochi: it's lighter
19:08 Bakari: alright
19:08 Bakari: 03:20:359 (6,7) - these two have nothing in the blue ticks, there is nothing that'd support 1/4 sliders
19:10 Bakari: 03:40:245 (1,4) - and yet again I do not see any reason for those to be extended
19:12 -Tochi: the 1/4 sliders with muted ends shows how strong the beat are there, two circles would be weaker
19:12 -Tochi: if you know what i mean
19:13 Bakari: You know, we have hitsounds to emphasize stronger beats
19:13 Bakari: 3/4 sliders ignoring reasonable 1/2 beats are not making it any better
19:16 -Tochi: alright, i will fix those
19:18 Bakari: 04:54:291 (1) - same thing about the slidercuve. that move in the end makes me feel quite uneasy
19:19 Bakari: 05:03:889 (1,1) -
19:19 Bakari: that's pretty much it
19:20 -Tochi: ok, i fixed it