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JakeMood
why is mine still not here ;-; im getting really impatient D: i wanna try it so bad
Keetoxx
Unfortunately you cant pay with Bancontact/Maestro... im very sad.
i0nTempest
LED and RGB version sold out? When will they available again?
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 2/25/2016

Sorry for the lack of posts! I've been doing a lot of programming and messing around with some IoT stuff. I haven't been skimping on keypads though, I've rewritten the code for the LED and RGB keypads.

The LED model now supports brightness adjustment! This is compatible with the r2 model, so if you have one and would like the update you can upload the new code.

The RGB model now uses RGBW LEDs. This doesn't make a huge difference. At all. It looks exactly the same but the code works a little differently (in a way that I greatly prefer.) I'm not settled on whether this will be the RGB r3, RGBW, or just simplifying the naming of all of the keypads. These revisions are just meant to differentiate between hardware changes so I'd like to keep it as simple for people as possible.

Keetoxx wrote:

Unfortunately you cant pay with Bancontact/Maestro... im very sad.
Sorry, all payment stuff is handled by Etsy. They do support a decent range (you can view here,) but unfortunately they can't take everything.

i0nNepgear wrote:

LED and RGB version sold out? When will they available again?
Parts are on their way and they should be back up between next Monday and Wednesday.
Cataclysm
I got my keypad within 3-4 days so I don't know how it took you 3 weeks

XDD wrote:

Just got mine today. LED R2 with Gateron Clear Switches.

Shipping took around 3 weeks
Elektrey

Symacon wrote:

I got my keypad within 3-4 days so I don't know how it took you 3 weeks

XDD wrote:

Just got mine today. LED R2 with Gateron Clear Switches.

Shipping took around 3 weeks
that user is in Britain so that probably has something to do with it.
The Gambler
More competition for you I guess? http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-falcon-8 ... mbled.html
It's sold as a prebuilt, a kit or separate parts altogether.

For $44 this is a really compelling value:


It's even advertised for osu!


Good luck catching up. I though the TechKeys one was legit but this seems even better.

EDIT: I'm guessing this is an Atmel ATMega328 chip installed with V-USB emulation. If this were an ARM chip w/ a dedicated USB-to-serial hardware (much like a Teensy), then this is a REALLY compelling value for money.
Topic Starter
Thnikk
It's definitely more compelling than the techkeys 3 key, but $44 is pretty high. The value is still similar to a mechanical numpad (with the added benefits of LED backlighting with effects and being able to remap keys.) I'm still comfortable with where my keypads are. My basic and basic+ models give people a more affordable option and my LED and RGB are for more flair without being too expensive. Having said that, I do still have some plans for improvement (maybe for the basic and basic+???)


mini update 3/16/16

I'm working on a lot of side projects. Since Project Diva X comes out next week, I resumed work on that from almost a year ago now. I don't know where I plan on going with it, but I'll have a little snippet about it in a future update. Otherwise I've been having a lot of fun playing around with IoT stuff. I have been posting to twitter more frequently so if you want to see what I'm up to you can follow me there (link)

I am happy to have one of my beginning of the year goals completed, but I definitely want to blow through a lot more... after April 15th. If I live past that, everything will be great.
Eidorian
Good help to community ^^
Seynior
Do they work with macbook ? OS system?
Topic Starter
Thnikk

Syaoran wrote:

Do they work with macbook ? OS system?
Yes! They are compatible with any modern OS without any driver installation required.

I say modern because I'd otherwise expect someone to ask if it works on a C64 or something.
The Gambler

Thnikk wrote:

I say modern because I'd otherwise expect someone to ask if it works on a C64 or something.
Pretty sure Commodores don't have USB ports, and I have yet to see an RS232 to micro-USB converter.
SayStrikes
Hello im interested in one of your keyboards, tell me how can i buy you one without a credit card. Such as Rapid Pago, Pago fácil, etc. So you print the bill, go pay it and get the product.
Salutes!
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Hello all! I'll have an announcement hopefully later in the week, but I just wanted to post now saying lenovive will be streaming on Twitch with an RGBW keypad and you can check him out here if you're interested [link]. I've wanted to put out more videos showing off the keypads but I haven't had a whole lot of time, so if you buy a keypad and stream or make any videos feel free to post a link to your content!

Shattking wrote:

Hello im interested in one of your keyboards, tell me how can i buy you one without a credit card. Such as Rapid Pago, Pago fácil, etc. So you print the bill, go pay it and get the product.
Salutes!
I'm sorry, I only accept payments through Etsy so I only accept what they accept (which you can view here.)
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 4/18/2016

The basic and basic+ now use the same Pro-Micro microcontroller that the LED and RGB use! This means a few things:

No more 8 seconds of bootloader mode upon plugging it in.
Same code base between models, making everything more cohesive.
1000hz polling rate!

Another big announcement is my new implementation of a button remapping system!

Guide: http://thnikk.moe/guides/remap/
This is implemented on every model INCLUDING the basic and basic+.
The old 8-second hold button swapper has been removed from the LED and RGB models in favor of simplicity.

Last but not least is a price cut! All models have gone down in price (prices are in USD and for base models.)

RGBW - $32 to $29
LED - $28 to $25
Basic+ - $25 to $22
Basic - $22 to $19
KanoSet

Thnikk wrote:

Update 4/18/2016

The basic and basic+ now use the same Pro-Micro microcontroller that the LED and RGB use! This means a few things:

No more 8 seconds of bootloader mode upon plugging it in.
Same code base between models, making everything more cohesive.
1000hz polling rate!
i hoped knew this was going to happen at some point
great update tho :D
Bottlecap
Are you still selling these keypads? I've been looking to purchase one
Symphonia
How is the tape function. You can clean it easy but on some point it shouldn't hold anymore?
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 5/3/16

Something is in development...



Bottlecap wrote:

Are you still selling these keypads? I've been looking to purchase one
Yes, they have been up except for the RGB which I hope to have back up by next week. Links to the shop and specific products are in the OP!


Cerberus wrote:

How is the tape function. You can clean it easy but on some point it shouldn't hold anymore?
It can hold for a very long time and can be cleaned with rubbing alcohol when water stops working well, but I would like to start including spare strips in the future. I'll try to get that sorted when my development is completed.
The Gambler
Have you considered creating a mounting platform instead? I strapped mine to a cellphone stand, which is a ghetto way of doing it.

Topic Starter
Thnikk

The Gambler wrote:

Have you considered creating a mounting platform instead? I strapped mine to a cellphone stand, which is a ghetto way of doing it.

I have actually considered doing something like this (bringing a metal mousepad with me when I go out for testing to stick it to.) The biggest issue would be the shipping costs for international customers, but I could look for something and try it with a US only option on the shop.
Bottlecap
I just put in an order for a basic keypad with gateron clears, so excited!
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 5/3/16

4k keypad code is done!
I plan on finishing the hardware prototype this week and will hopefully have it up on the shop by the end of the month. I'll post more details when the hardware is done.

Website has been redesigned: http://thnikk.moe/
I've switched to bootstrap to make everything cleaner and responsive. I was getting tired of the old look and I think it's a lot better now. The reprogramming guide has also been updated for my current keypads. The old guide is currently not available, but I do plan on getting it back up soon for people who have older keypads.

RGBW keypad is back in stock.
Keypop keycaps (8-bit heart, look of fury, and cloudy) are on their way and should be back up by the end of the week.

Edit: Keypop keycaps are back!
Yuudachi-kun
p/5128930

You gon' get shut down by the mods thinkk xdddd
Topic Starter
Thnikk

Khelly wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5128930

You gon' get shut down by the mods thinkk xdddd
I would hope not. I haven't been using this thread as much for promotion as I have for feedback. I think I have a good reputation as far as sales are concerned (average of 5 stars for reviews 8-) ) and I don't handle any sales through the forum, everything is done through Etsy. This thread is great because it lets me talk to you guys and get feedback on my products FROM the community that I'm making them for. Speaking of which...

4k Keypad!


The design is still pending and I'll be making 2 more prototypes within the next few days just to play around with it a little bit, but I'd like to get some feedback from you guys in the mean time.

LED modes

Cycle - Does a cascading rainbow effect. This was shown off in the video I posted above, but now also has a built-in reactive mode that turns the LEDs white when pressed.
Taiko - Changes to taiko colors (orange inside blue outside)
Project Diva - I made this one mostly for myself for playing the PSP project diva games though PPSSPP but it's just the sony color scheme layed out in the same way as the Project Diva Arcade. I was planning on doing most of my testing with the game since I suck at taiko and osu!mania (using two of them.)
Custom - Set the color of each individual LED. Could replace the Taiko and Project Diva modes but I think I'd like to have them all.
BPS - Same as the BPS mode on the 2 key RGBW keypad, changes color depending on how many times the key is pressed per second but per-key instead.


Port location
The port is on the back since the controller fit inside the case vertically. It could go on the left side like it does on my other models, but I think this is more accommodating if someone wanted to use two of them together (like I want to with my testing.)


Edit: also thinking that the side button doesn't make any sense on the left side anymore since one-handed use would tie up your pinky leaving only your thumb free. I think I will try the middle of the front.

Edit 2: Button moved
Mahogany
I wouldn't be worried, the mods just shut down stuff on a whim without giving their actual reasons.

If they tried to shut down this post, rest assured there'd be a shitstorm and it'd be unlocked.
The Gambler

Thnikk wrote:

4k Keypad!
Good call on those keycaps. I always have a problem with fingers slipping loose on my 4K set but can't be justified to order keycaps online except for when I want a full set...
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 6/3/16

So this is more of a halfway-update, but one that I'm still excited about.

Parts for the 4k model are on their way!
They should be up on the shop in about a week.


A new project...
SPOILER
As some of you may know, Project Diva Future Tone is coming out on the 23rd of June! I'm a huge fan of the series and I even picked up a ps4 just to play it. I made a post about a year ago about my attempts at making a controller for the PS3/PSTV but the dualshock 3 was a huge pain to work with and it ended up not working.

Since I already had a DS4 before I bought the PS4, I had an extra and decided to revisit the idea. This time it worked perfectly! I'm still using the same Ikea screw case and Chinese buttons I used last year and I have absolutely no experience with any arcade-style controllers.

Prototype 0.1


With it working, I decided I wanted to try to make a real one that doesn't suck and look like a 4th grade arts and crafts project so I made a mockup in Fusion360.

Concept prototype 1.0


This made me a lot more excited. Now I have some clear Sanwa buttons and a case like the one in the render on the way so hopefully I can make a slightly less shiny version of the one above! I don't know if this is something that I would like to make and sell, but since it doesn't really pertain to osu I'd like to not talk about it too much here. I just wanted to share with you guys because I thought the render came out really cool. I'll try to post about it more when the parts come in on twitter, so follow me if you're interested! [link]
Cataclysm
I don't want to make it seem like your fault or anything, but I have encountered problems with the keypad which bring me to ask if the keypad isn't compatible with some OS? I currently have windows 7 but it has brought up several (small) issues. Nothing serious but I'm just curious.
Topic Starter
Thnikk

Symacon wrote:

I don't want to make it seem like your fault or anything, but I have encountered problems with the keypad which bring me to ask if the keypad isn't compatible with some OS? I currently have windows 7 but it has brought up several (small) issues. Nothing serious but I'm just curious.
Do you have another micro usb cable you can try out? That's what causes any issues most commonly.
Cataclysm
is it usb 3.0 or 2.0?
The Gambler

Symacon wrote:

is it usb 3.0 or 2.0?
Did you check your keyboard model? All the model specs are on thnikk's Etsy page
Cataclysm
Well I couldn't find it there so that is why I am asking
The Gambler

Symacon wrote:

Well I couldn't find it there so that is why I am asking
Googling the right information is a skill of its own. Train on that.
http://thnikk.moe/keypad/models/
Cataclysm
I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
The Gambler

Symacon wrote:

I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
I didn't either until Wikipedia told me. Praise peppy.
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Not sure why I only get email notifications of posts sometimes.

Update 11/15/16
I guess I should have said this 2 weks ago, but the release of the 4k keypad has been delayed. I would like to release it as soon as possible, but I still have some logistical stuff to sort out and I've been very busy. I'm pushing the ETA back to the end of this month, but I am trying to get it up as soon as possible.

Symacon wrote:

I saw that.. I just didn't realize what Micro USB B meant until I googled it after you said that.
Sorry about that, I used to work at a computer store that stocked micro usb type A and B so customers would always come to the counter with type A. I've felt the need to specify ever since, but most people don't know what the B means.



As you can see, A is no good since it won't physically fit (but B fits inside A making A cables useless.)

tl;dr it's just a regular micro usb port
Cataclysm
Thanks for clarifying that :D
Topic Starter
Thnikk
Update 7/13

Hello everyone! Since I haven't posted in a while, I thought I'd give a status report.

Absence
To start off, I've gotten another job and had less time to do development stuff. There is a reason for this, however, and I'm very close to getting a 3d printer now! For any of you that are curious, I was planning on getting the Printrbot Simple originally, but there Simple v2 comes out this month and I'm looking at that now.

3D Printer
So I've been talking about it a lot, but what does this mean for me any my shop?

Custom parts - This is the biggest thing for me. I'm still working on improving my Project Diva controller by adding things like the PS4 touchpad and analog sticks, but these are hard to add. Being able to make custom brackets would make this dead simple and inexpensive. Who knows what else I could make, the sky is the limit.

Custom cases - This I'm about 50/50 on. I don't want to compromise the quality of my keypads since the cases I've been using the same cases for a year and a half and they've been great and look pretty nice, but being able to print them would give me 100% flexibility of design and lighten my workload. I'll have to print one first to see how it looks, but this would be especially helpful for the 4k keypad since that's a lot of cutting and my hands aren't nearly as precise as a machine. This is the other reason I haven't finished the 4k keypad, since it would be a lot of work to go through all of the effort of taking pictures, writing descriptions, updating my website, taking shipping weight, etc. if I 'm just going to end up changing it in a month. It could also help with slimming them down a bit and helping mounting buttons internally so I don't have to use the panel mount side buttons anymore. Sorry to anyone that's been waiting, but I want to make the best thing I can. If you are still interested in a 4k keypad, PM me and we can work something out.
Rumon
This may seem like a stupid question but what is the weight of the keyboard. As if it is light it could be easily knocked around.
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