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Rameses B - Sweet Surrender (ft. Charlotte Haining)

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Topic Starter
Doj
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 1:22:38 AM

Artist: Rameses B
Title: Sweet Surrender (ft. Charlotte Haining)
Tags: rameses b, charlotte haining, drum and bass, liquicity
BPM: 175
Filesize: 7890kb
Play Time: 02:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.41 stars, 108 notes)
  2. Hard (2.77 stars, 235 notes)
  3. Nao Tomori (4.09 stars, 313 notes)
Download: Rameses B - Sweet Surrender (ft. Charlotte Haining)
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Sigh, will this mapset ever get finished

Easy by Me - Pending Remap
Hard by Me - Completed
Insane by Me - Completed

Storyboard by Me - Incomplete

Something something lyrics, something something fancy code
Topic Starter
Doj
This will be my Changelog:

Well I was gonna put changes here but I'm too lazy so here's a cat.

Yunona
  • [General]
  1. 175 BPM Offset 274
  2. In Design uncheck support for Widescreen and Letterbox during breaks,they are only used when SB
  3. Kiai time set to 00:44:159 to 01:06:102 and 01:17:073 to 01:28:045.
  4. The size of the Background should be 1366*768
    [Easy]
  5. I think you need to decrease the speed sliders,because it is Easy
  6. 00:11:245 (1) - I think you can put a circle
  7. 00:11:931 (1,2) - the distance at Easy must be the same,check the beat spacing
  8. 00:22:216 (4) - I think you can put a circle
  9. 00:17:416 (1,2,3) - check the beat spacing
  10. 00:22:216 (4,1,2,3) - ^
  11. 00:30:274 (2) - Stuckey cannot do,because it Easy
  12. 00:33:182 (1,2) - check the beat spacing
  13. 00:35:245 (3,1,2) - Stuckey cannot do,because it Easy
  14. 00:37:975 (3,1) - check the beat spacing
  15. 00:38:663 (1,1) - ^
  16. 00:41:414 (1) - I don't know exactly,but I think it will be difficult for the players Easy.Try to make a slider to 00:42:102 and do the reverse
  17. 00:44:159 (1) - from here,check the full beat spacing,the distance between the circles and sliders should be the same
  18. 00:44:673 (2) - put on the white tick
  19. 00:46:044 (2) - ^
  20. 00:46:216 (2,1) - Stuckey cannot do,because it Easy
  21. 00:48:266 (2,1) - is the distance at Easy must be the same,check the beat spacing
  22. 00:53:759 (2) - overlaps with the previous slider,overlay is also prohibited in Easy
  23. 00:55:131 (1,2) - stack,fix
  24. 00:55:645 (2) - put in white tick
  25. 00:56:502 (1,2) - stack,fix
  26. 00:57:016 (2) - put in white tick
  27. 00:57:873 (1,2) - overlap,fix
  28. 01:03:309 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - this is definitely difficult in Easy.Try to put two slider
  29. 01:21:516 (2,1) - stack,fix
  30. 01:24:267 (2,1) - ^
  31. 01:25:299 (2) - I already wrote about this,replace the slider with reverse
  32. 01:28:045 (2) - put the end of the white slider on the previous tick
  33. 01:44:468 (1,2) - overlap,fix
  34. 01:58:195 (1,2) - stack,fix
  35. 02:00:937 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
  36. 02:07:755 (1,2) - ^
Topic Starter
Doj

Chamue wrote:

  • [General]
  1. 175 BPM Offset 274 thank you sooooooooooo much lol
  2. In Design uncheck support for Widescreen and Letterbox during breaks,they are only used when SB fixed
  3. Kiai time set to 00:44:159 to 01:06:102 and 01:17:073 to 01:28:045. fixed
  4. The size of the Background should be 1366*768 fixed
    [Easy]
  5. I think you need to decrease the speed sliders,because it is Easy I would change it but since I added more circles the diff is hard now, but I'll remember this next time. Other suggestion you have including the easy diff will be ignored unless I type something.
  6. 00:11:245 (1) - I think you can put a circle fixed
  7. 00:11:931 (1,2) - the distance at Easy must be the same,check the beat spacing fixed
  8. 00:22:216 (4) - I think you can put a circle fixed
  9. 00:17:416 (1,2,3) - check the beat spacing fixed
  10. 00:22:216 (4,1,2,3) - ^ fixed
  11. 00:30:274 (2) - Stuckey cannot do,because it Easy fixed
  12. 00:33:182 (1,2) - check the beat spacing fixed
  13. 00:35:245 (3,1,2) - Stuckey cannot do,because it Easy fixed
  14. 00:37:975 (3,1) - check the beat spacing fixed
  15. 00:38:663 (1,1) - ^ fixed
  16. 00:41:414 (1) - I don't know exactly,but I think it will be difficult for the players Easy.Try to make a slider to 00:42:102 and do the reverse
  17. 00:44:159 (1) - from here,check the full beat spacing,the distance between the circles and sliders should be the same
  18. 00:44:673 (2) - put on the white tick fixed
  19. 00:46:044 (2) - ^ fixed
  20. 00:46:216 (2,1) - Stuckey cannot do,because it Easy fixed
  21. 00:48:266 (2,1) - is the distance at Easy must be the same,check the beat spacing
  22. 00:53:759 (2) - overlaps with the previous slider,overlay is also prohibited in Easy fixed
  23. 00:55:131 (1,2) - stack,fix
  24. 00:55:645 (2) - put in white tick fixed
  25. 00:56:502 (1,2) - stack,fix
  26. 00:57:016 (2) - put in white tick fixed
  27. 00:57:873 (1,2) - overlap,fix fixed
  28. 01:03:309 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - this is definitely difficult in Easy.Try to put two slider fixed
  29. 01:21:516 (2,1) - stack,fix fixed
  30. 01:24:267 (2,1) - ^
  31. 01:25:299 (2) - I already wrote about this,replace the slider with reverse
  32. 01:28:045 (2) - put the end of the white slider on the previous tick
  33. 01:44:468 (1,2) - overlap,fix fixed
  34. 01:58:195 (1,2) - stack,fix fixed
  35. 02:00:937 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ^
  36. 02:07:755 (1,2) - ^
I ended up coming back and fixing more stuff you said waaaay after you posted this. So I might have put fixed on some things I thought I fixed but maybe didn't lol. I'm pretty new at this so I tried my best to apply the things you suggested. Still trying to understand how correct spacing should be.

Thanks ! 8-)
daavko
Hello there!

The offset is 246. Also, you shouldn't use timing sections for start of kiai, you should use inherited sections for this, because timing sections reset the beat timer and you don't want that when modifying offset.

I hope my contribution is helpful (and possibly correct)
KantanDez
from m4m queue


Sweet
00:12:588 (2,3) - fix blanket
00:36:588 (2) - put this on the side
00:41:388 (1) - keep repeating until 00:42:760
01:49:617 (1,1) - fix blanket



Mild
00:12:588 (4,5) - fix blanket
01:40:360 (1) - change slider
01:51:331 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:56:817 (1) - doesnt fit
02:11:988 - add a spinner here and end it on 02:17:388


Sour
00:12:588 (4) - these type of slider is supposed to be used on electric guitars
00:13:960 (3) - ^
00:23:388 (4) - change slider to this image (cuz i suck at explaining)
00:33:674 (2) - move to 00:33:846
00:35:046 (2) - move to 00:35:217
00:38:131 (8,9) - move to 00:37:960
00:48:760 (4) - change slider to this image
01:19:788 (1) - change slider to this image
01:28:017 (1) - these type of slider is supposed to be used on electric guitars
02:11:988 - add a spinner here and end it on 02:17:388

thats all :3
Topic Starter
Doj

Term Akatski wrote:

from m4m queue


Sweet
00:12:588 (2,3) - fix blanket fixed
00:36:588 (2) - put this on the sideNot sure what you meant, but I moved it to the side of (1)
00:41:388 (1) - keep repeating until 00:42:760 fixed
01:49:617 (1,1) - fix blanket fixed



Mild
00:12:588 (4,5) - fix blanket fixed
01:40:360 (1) - change slider fixed~
01:51:331 (1,2) - fix blanketfixed
01:56:817 (1) - doesnt fit fixed
02:11:988 - add a spinner here and end it on 02:17:388 This is a really good idea, I'll add this to all diffs!


Sour
00:12:588 (4) - these type of slider is supposed to be used on electric guitars fixed
00:13:960 (3) - ^ ^
00:23:388 (4) - change slider to this image (cuz i suck at explaining) fixed
00:33:674 (2) - move to 00:33:846 I like the sound it has, thanks!
00:35:046 (2) - move to 00:35:217 fixed
00:38:131 (8,9) - move to 00:37:960 fixed
00:48:760 (4) - change slider to this image The slider is smooth and fits really well, thanks 8-)
01:19:788 (1) - change slider to this image I didn't make the slider like this one, but I still changed it to make it smoother.
01:28:017 (1) - these type of slider is supposed to be used on electric guitars fixed
02:11:988 - add a spinner here and end it on 02:17:388fixed

thats all :3
Thanks! 8-)
Topic Starter
Doj

daavko wrote:

Hello there!

The offset is 246. Also, you shouldn't use timing sections for start of kiai, you should use inherited sections for this, because timing sections reset the beat timer and you don't want that when modifying offset.

I hope my contribution is helpful (and possibly correct)
Thanks for the advice 8-)
Gamu
Hello. As per your request: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/393945

  1. Artist: Rameses B
  2. Title: Sweet Surrender (ft. Charlotte Haining)
<Reference>
  1. https://soundcloud.com/ramesesb/rameses-b-sweet-surrender-ft-charlotte-haining

The current metadata is fine!
But, please remove "rameses b charlotte haining" of Tags because it is used in Artist and Title.

Good luck~ :3
Topic Starter
Doj

Gamu wrote:

Hello. As per your request: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/393945

  1. Artist: Rameses B
  2. Title: Sweet Surrender (ft. Charlotte Haining)
<Reference>
  1. https://soundcloud.com/ramesesb/rameses-b-sweet-surrender-ft-charlotte-haining

The current metadata is fine!
But, please remove "rameses b charlotte haining" of Tags because it is used in Artist and Title.

Good luck~ :3
Thanks!
Kimmyyyyy97
Hey!
Here is a mod for you, I hope I can help ^^

EASY:

00:11:217 (1) - I don't think you need a circle here, it seems that it's not correct placed owo
00:11:217 (1) - you can place a circle here or you can place a slider, starting at 00:11:217 (1)
00:30:246 (2) - the slider should start at 00:30:417 and end at 00:31:103 , fits better to the vocal line ^^
00:50:303 - you can add a circle here
00:51:674 - ^
01:01:274 - ^
01:02:646 - ^
01:17:217 (1) - delete
01:18:760 (1) - move to 01:18:074
01:20:131 (1) - move to 01:19:446
01:21:503 (2) - move to 01:20:817
01:22:188 - add a circle
01:43:103 (2) - make the slider shorter by 1 tick on the timeline
01:53:388 - add a circle
01:58:874 - ^
02:11:217 (1) - let the slider start at 02:10:874 , then you should have a better flow to the spinner

Good song btw! :D

Kimmy
Topic Starter
Doj

Kimmyyyyy97 wrote:

Hey!
Here is a mod for you, I hope I can help ^^

EASY:

00:11:217 (1) - I don't think you need a circle here, it seems that it's not correct placed owo I think i need to keep a note here, because it's the start of the actulal song
00:11:217 (1) - you can place a circle here or you can place a slider, starting at 00:11:217 (1) a slider here is a good idea, fixed
00:30:246 (2) - the slider should start at 00:30:417 and end at 00:31:103 , fits better to the vocal line ^^ This sounds nice. It also fits to the background instrument, fixed
00:50:303 - you can add a circle here fixed
00:51:674 - ^ ^
01:01:274 - ^ ^
01:02:646 - ^ ^
01:17:217 (1) - delete I like the new pattern, fixed
01:18:760 (1) - move to 01:18:074 ^
01:20:131 (1) - move to 01:19:446 ^
01:21:503 (2) - move to 01:20:817 ^
01:22:188 - add a circle ^
01:43:103 (2) - make the slider shorter by 1 tick on the timeline I think it fits better with the beat, so I'll keep it the same
01:53:388 - add a circle fixed
01:58:874 - ^ ^
02:11:217 (1) - let the slider start at 02:10:874 , then you should have a better flow to the spinner I have my finish assigned to the end of that slider, so moving it would mess up the ending.

Good song btw! :D

Kimmy
Thanks this helped alot!
Lumael
Hello owo, M4M here


General

  1. Offset 238 sounds to be the best in my opinion.
  2. You may want to add some combo colors to your beatmap, currently there isn't any.
  3. Diff name spread is unrankable because it's impossible to compare the difficulty of each diff by its name, you may name it Normal, Hard & Insane.

[b]Sweet

  1. You should try to follow drums a bit instead of focusing on the vocals like you did pretty much during the entire map. It's quite boring to have such long gaps (mostly on the calm parts of the song) while there are drums shining on the background!
  2. You must use constant distance snapping (DS) during the entire beatmap for an Easy/Normal difficulty.
  3. 00:22:874 (1) - This NC is unecessary since you've already added here 00:22:188 (1) - .
  4. 00:41:388 (1) - This is quite confusing and hard for this kind of difficulty, you could use a spinner instead (remember that you need some recovery time).
  5. 01:04:360 (1) - Same, you don't need a new combo here.

    Well, please remap this difficulty using DS, this is the biggest problem here, even rhythm is good most of the song.

Mild

  1. Same commentaries about DS and mapping drums. Although it's not a rule to use DS on a Hard difficulty, it's a must as guideline, you can ignore it sometimes, but just sometimes!
  2. 00:19:274 (4) - The tail sounds better with some sound, I wouldn't recommend silicing stuff without a good reason for, it can make the map unrankeable.
  3. 00:29:046 (4) - Two anchors are not needed on the new version of osu! editor for a perfect blanket. Moreover you should add a New Combo because of the SV change.
  4. 00:41:388 (1,5,1) - This is quite confusing, they look almost the same, and they play completely different rhythms. Personally, I don't see any reason for this extremelly high SV on the first two linked notes.
  5. 01:05:731 (3,4) - Untack to improve readability.
  6. 01:40:360 (5) - Well, there's no reason for this low SV on this slider, I wouldn't recommend it at all, the song doesn't indicates that this will happen, it sounds awkward in all ways. If you still want to keep it, atleast add a New Combo because it's a guideline when you make a SV change.
  7. 02:08:303 (1,1) - Uncessary NCs.

Well, for the insane all these commentaries are applied. I think there is still a long way for this beatmap to get ready for ranking. The weird SV changes + lack of distance snapping are the main causes for this, you really should toggle this option on while mapping any diff besides Insane or higher. (even insane sometimes)

That's all from me,
Good Luck! ~
Topic Starter
Doj

Lumael wrote:

Hello owo, M4M here

First of all, I would like to say thank you for telling me my map was garbage. You didn't say that exactly, but it became quite clear once I started re-mapping. I think this mod will really stick with me. Thanks.

General

  1. Offset 238 sounds to be the best in my opinion. fixed
  2. You may want to add some combo colors to your beatmap, currently there isn't any. fixed
  3. Diff name spread is unrankable because it's impossible to compare the difficulty of each diff by its name, you may name it Normal, Hard & Insane. fixed

[b]Sweet

  1. You should try to follow drums a bit instead of focusing on the vocals like you did pretty much during the entire map. It's quite boring to have such long gaps (mostly on the calm parts of the song) while there are drums shining on the background!fixed
  2. You must use constant distance snapping (DS) during the entire beatmap for an Easy/Normal difficulty. fixed
  3. 00:22:874 (1) - This NC is unecessary since you've already added here 00:22:188 (1) - . fixed
  4. 00:41:388 (1) - This is quite confusing and hard for this kind of difficulty, you could use a spinner instead (remember that you need some recovery time).fixed
  5. 01:04:360 (1) - Same, you don't need a new combo here.fixed

    Well, please remap this difficulty using DS, this is the biggest problem here, even rhythm is good most of the song.fixed

Mild

  1. Same commentaries about DS and mapping drums. Although it's not a rule to use DS on a Hard difficulty, it's a must as guideline, you can ignore it sometimes, but just sometimes!fixed
  2. 00:19:274 (4) - The tail sounds better with some sound, I wouldn't recommend silicing stuff without a good reason for, it can make the map unrankeable.fixed
  3. 00:29:046 (4) - Two anchors are not needed on the new version of osu! editor for a perfect blanket. Moreover you should add a New Combo because of the SV change.fixed
  4. 00:41:388 (1,5,1) - This is quite confusing, they look almost the same, and they play completely different rhythms. Personally, I don't see any reason for this extremelly high SV on the first two linked notes. fixed
  5. 01:05:731 (3,4) - Untack to improve readability.fixed
  6. 01:40:360 (5) - Well, there's no reason for this low SV on this slider, I wouldn't recommend it at all, the song doesn't indicates that this will happen, it sounds awkward in all ways. If you still want to keep it, atleast add a New Combo because it's a guideline when you make a SV change.fixed
  7. 02:08:303 (1,1) - Uncessary NCs.fixed

Well, for the insane all these commentaries are applied. I think there is still a long way for this beatmap to get ready for ranking. The weird SV changes + lack of distance snapping are the main causes for this, you really should toggle this option on while mapping any diff besides Insane or higher. (even insane sometimes)

That's all from me,
Good Luck! ~
Once again thank you for this. Since I've come back to this map a month later, I feel like it wasn't even me who made this from all the mistakes lol.
Topic Starter
Doj
I feel bad for doing this after these mods, but I've decided to remap all the diffs.

I appreciate the mods you guys did though!
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