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LiSA - best day, best way [Taiko]

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Volta
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 03 May 2017 at 07:38:22

Artist: LiSA
Title: best day, best way
Tags: LANDSPACE Oribe Risa 織部 里沙 cut short version nardoxyribonucleic
BPM: 180
Filesize: 4630kb
Play Time: 02:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.17 stars, 357 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (4.24 stars, 983 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.48 stars, 194 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (2.93 stars, 548 notes)
  5. Nardo's Oni (3.9 stars, 750 notes)
Download: LiSA - best day, best way
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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LiSa <3

Nardo's oni by Nardoxyribonucleic
Surono
<(``)
kurang kerjaan

[Kantan]
ini pake 1/2 snapnya? kantan recomendly itu 1/1 dan 1/2 dkit.. jadi remap Kantan deh, kasian ntar newbie `-` yha bisa ditolak gpp. cuma saran

[Futsuu]
00:44:274 (4) - d, kalau k semua ntar bosen
00:48:107 (14) - kasih finish, 00:49:440 (17) - juga kasih finish
01:43:440 (17) - k, pitch tinggi
01:44:774 (21) - k
01:45:607 (2) - k, di daerah ini bosenin kalau d semua
01:48:524 (8) - ini d

catatan: itu futsuunya star gede, minimal futsuu itu 2.20 kebawah starnya, yg kantan itu star harus 1.5 an

dah ini aja, ga ada motivasi ngemod muzu sama oni, pagi2 gini males ni otak. semoga bermanfaat~ :lol:
Topic Starter
Volta

Surono wrote:

<(``)
kurang kerjaan

[Kantan]
ini pake 1/2 snapnya? kantan recomendly itu 1/1 dan 1/2 dkit.. jadi remap Kantan deh, kasian ntar newbie `-` yha bisa ditolak gpp. cuma saran

masalahnya ni lagu beatnya cepet dan gak ada break2nya, jadi susah bikin kantan yang gak ngebosenin. tp diremap jg lol

[Futsuu]
00:44:274 (4) - d, kalau k semua ntar bosen
00:48:107 (14) - kasih finish, 00:49:440 (17) - juga kasih finish
01:43:440 (17) - k, pitch tinggi
01:44:774 (21) - k
01:45:607 (2) - k, di daerah ini bosenin kalau d semua
01:48:524 (8) - ini d

catatan: itu futsuunya star gede, minimal futsuu itu 2.20 kebawah starnya, yg kantan itu star harus 1.5 an

menurut ane masih masuk daerah futsuu kok meski starnya gede.
sebenernya ane nyoba remap yg futsuu juga. not nya lebih dikit, tp starnya malah lebih gede :o


dah ini aja, ga ada motivasi ngemod muzu sama oni, pagi2 gini males ni otak. semoga bermanfaat~ :lol:
thx gan udah mampir. simple mod, but applied :)
btw ava kita kalo dijejerin kayak lagi liat2an gitu ya
Surono
lol :lol:
[R]
Suggestion

[Muzukashi]
01:19:774 (178,179,180) - ddk
02:21:107 - k
[Oni]
00:23:196 - k
00:56:940 - k
01:17:107 (229,230,231) - kdd
01:18:940 (245,246,247) - kkd
02:05:607 - k

opinion : strim ddddddddddddnya diganti finisher aja
Topic Starter
Volta

[R] wrote:

Suggestion

[Muzukashi]
01:19:774 (178,179,180) - ddk
02:21:107 - k
[Oni]
00:23:196 - k
00:56:940 - k ---> not applied
01:17:107 (229,230,231) - kdd
01:18:940 (245,246,247) - kkd
02:05:607 - k ---> not applied

opinion : strim ddddddddddddnya diganti finisher aja ---> noooo i like the stream. .

thanks :)
your mod is not so detailed but i give you kudos anyway for appreciation.
Jerry


  • [General]
    :!: 00:56:274 - Let the kiai start here. The entire part starting from here until 01:37:774 - is very suitable for a kiai time. Plus, if you look at another map of this song that's currently ranked, the kiai starts at this part as well and ends at 01:37:774 -.


    :!: Please put these in the tags :
    LANDSPACE
    Oribe Risa
    織部 里沙

  • [Kantan]
  1. I noticed that you map to the guitar/vocals for most parts of this difficulty and this causes quite an inbalance to the note structure's consistency due to constant use of the red lines in the beat snap of 1/2, most notably the beginning part after the circling slider at 00:10:913 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -. This is really difficult and confusing for new players due to the complexity of the timings of the notes. I would suggest looking over this difficulty again and try remapping some parts more closely to the drum beats using the beatsnap divisor of 1/1, and only using 1/2 when it is absolutely necessary and fits the music, for example the part at 00:40:230 (35,36,37) -.

  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:24:806 (49,50) - CTRL+G for this to follow the vocal pitch

  2. 01:45:857 (3) - Don't follow the vocals for this part! It's very confusing for new players. Follow the drum beats instead for this part and move the note to 01:45:940 -

  3. 01:48:524 (8) - ^ Same for this, move this note to 01:48:607 -

  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:10:496 (28) - Move this note to 00:10:163 - and then add a Finish to 00:10:580 -? That way more emphasis can be put on the epic start of the electric guitar at 00:10:580 -

  2. 00:20:246 (24) - There is no necessity for this note to have a Finish, it doesn't emphasis on anything for this part and it's just plain weird to play.

  3. 00:36:331 (95) - Move this to 00:37:009 - so that the note structure will be consistent with what you did at 00:25:314 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - ?

  4. 01:14:274 (152) - this don here causes this pattern to sound extremely unnatural with the music imo, try moving it to 01:14:774 -? It's also able to match with the drums in the music better

  5. 01:17:524 (168) - I suggest you move this note to 01:17:357 - , allowing more emphasis to be put on 01:17:607 - so that it'll be able to accompany the intense guitar and drums sounds here

  6. 02:15:940 (132) - Change this note to kat so smoothen out the ending of the kiai?

  • [Oni]
  1. 00:42:263 (266,267,268,269,270,271,1) - This is an absolute no-no, it severely affects the readability of the notes (and is unrankable). I would suggest just slowing down the entire thing with 1 timing point on the first note of this pattern, don't make it gradually slow down with a green line on all the notes ._."

  2. 01:37:774 (376,377,378,379,380,381,1,2) - This is a huge no as well, the notes are too clumped up, making it wayyy too hard for players to read. Similar to ^

  3. 01:17:190 (230) - Change this to kat? it flows better imo

  4. 01:51:607 (7) - kat for this? The rhythm feels stronger o3o

That's all from me! Good luck with the map~
Topic Starter
Volta

Jerry wrote:



  • [General]
    :!: 00:56:274 - Let the kiai start here. The entire part starting from here until 01:37:774 - is very suitable for a kiai time. Plus, if you look at another map of this song that's currently ranked, the kiai starts at this part as well and ends at 01:37:774 -.


    :!: Please put these in the tags :
    LANDSPACE
    Oribe Risa
    織部 里沙

  • [Kantan]
  1. I noticed that you map to the guitar/vocals for most parts of this difficulty and this causes quite an inbalance to the note structure's consistency due to constant use of the red lines in the beat snap of 1/2, most notably the beginning part after the circling slider at 00:10:913 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) -. This is really difficult and confusing for new players due to the complexity of the timings of the notes. I would suggest looking over this difficulty again and try remapping some parts more closely to the drum beats using the beatsnap divisor of 1/1, and only using 1/2 when it is absolutely necessary and fits the music, for example the part at 00:40:230 (35,36,37) -.

  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:24:806 (49,50) - CTRL+G for this to follow the vocal pitch

  2. 01:45:857 (3) - Don't follow the vocals for this part! It's very confusing for new players. Follow the drum beats instead for this part and move the note to 01:45:940 -

  3. 01:48:524 (8) - ^ Same for this, move this note to 01:48:607 -

  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:10:496 (28) - Move this note to 00:10:163 - and then add a Finish to 00:10:580 -? That way more emphasis can be put on the epic start of the electric guitar at 00:10:580 -

  2. 00:20:246 (24) - There is no necessity for this note to have a Finish, it doesn't emphasis on anything for this part and it's just plain weird to play.

  3. 00:36:331 (95) - Move this to 00:37:009 - so that the note structure will be consistent with what you did at 00:25:314 (45,46,47,48,49,50) - ?

  4. 01:14:274 (152) - this don here causes this pattern to sound extremely unnatural with the music imo, try moving it to 01:14:774 -? It's also able to match with the drums in the music better

  5. 01:17:524 (168) - I suggest you move this note to 01:17:357 - , allowing more emphasis to be put on 01:17:607 - so that it'll be able to accompany the intense guitar and drums sounds here

  6. 02:15:940 (132) - Change this note to kat so smoothen out the ending of the kiai? no, it will sounds weird

  • [Oni]
  1. 00:42:263 (266,267,268,269,270,271,1) - This is an absolute no-no, it severely affects the readability of the notes (and is unrankable). I would suggest just slowing down the entire thing with 1 timing point on the first note of this pattern, don't make it gradually slow down with a green line on all the notes ._."

  2. 01:37:774 (376,377,378,379,380,381,1,2) - This is a huge no as well, the notes are too clumped up, making it wayyy too hard for players to read. Similar to ^

  3. 01:17:190 (230) - Change this to kat? it flows better imo

  4. 01:51:607 (7) - kat for this? The rhythm feels stronger o3o nope


That's all from me! Good luck with the map~
thank you very much!
-FireThunder-
lol dat liat"an xD
and dat shin pp xD
tak bantu mod full deh soalnya jarang orang indo yang niat mod taiko owob

tapi agak telat deh, liat aja queneku hue :p
Topic Starter
Volta

-FireThunder- wrote:

lol dat liat"an xD
and dat shin pp xD
tak bantu mod full deh soalnya jarang orang indo yang niat mod taiko owob

tapi agak telat deh, liat aja queneku hue :p

hahaha oke2 tak tunggu kok. pengen banget ranked ni xD
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi, here is the Oni as requested :3 (no kd)

http://puu.sh/ifG7b.rar
Topic Starter
Volta

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi, here is the Oni as requested :3 (no kd)

http://puu.sh/ifG7b.rar
thanks! i've waited so long :D
Surono

-FireThunder- wrote:

lol dat liat"an xD
and dat shin pp xD
tak bantu mod full deh soalnya jarang orang indo yang niat mod taiko owob

tapi agak telat deh, liat aja queneku hue :p

PatZar wrote:

cuma menang bnyk doang
cuma ambiil dkit aja kata2nya, ada kritik ntar bkin ga motivasi... lol mbk, bukan berarti orang ngemod dkit itu males ya, gitu2 di check semua lho :lol:
emang mod bnyk itu juga baik? orang pnya style ngempanya sendiri2lah.. itu mah ngerasa ngeforcing jika suggest juga.. lol mending juga panjank ataupun dkit pake alesan.. dah ga tau ngomong apa.. pkoknya cuma ngingeti kata2 mbak yg pedes,, ngerasa lho ini tersindir yg ngemod pendek :lol: semoga dpt pengalaman~
Topic Starter
Volta
iya gak masalah kok mod nya panjang atao pendek, yang penting membantu buat map jd lebih baik dan gak maksa ngerubah mapping style nya. :)
Surono

Flying Pan wrote:

iya gak masalah kok mod nya panjang atao pendek, yang penting membantu buat map jd lebih baik dan gak maksa ngerubah mapping style nya. :)
ngapain kamu ikutan2 >:^( kzl nich~~~
tasuke912
Hi. from my Q.
[ General]
  1. Set this (.osu). boy is cut off. lol
    //Background and Video events
    0,0,"yui7.jpg",0,50
[ Kantan]
  1. SV1.2 is better.
  2. 00:07:913 (6) Long slider is so hard for beginner players. I recommended to change to spinner.
  3. 00:15:080 (11) change to Finish for consistency with 00:14:413 (10)
  4. 00:46:774 (7) Finish is better?
  5. 00:56:274 (20) I think Finish will be good accent.
  6. 01:10:940 (38) Finish ^
    01:32:274 (65) ^
  7. 01:52:940 Spinner.
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:07:913 (10) I think spinner is better, too.
  2. 00:38:874 (82) change to d for better consistency.
  3. 00:42:941 (1) Finish.
  4. 00:56:274 (32) Finish. same as Kantan.
  5. 01:10:940 (69) ^
    01:32:274 (125) ^
  6. 01:52:940 spinner same as kantan.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. Scroll changes are so many x_x I dont think these are really needed.
  2. 00:31:416 (73) Finish is better.
  3. 01:52:274 (9) Finish. You put finish on kantan and futsuu.
Good luck. 8-)
Topic Starter
Volta

tasuke912 wrote:

Hi. from my Q.
[ General]
  1. Set this (.osu). boy is cut off. lol
    //Background and Video events
    0,0,"yui7.jpg",0,50 i think 35 is better because it's the girl who got cut off at 50. thx for pointing it out

[ Kantan]
  1. SV1.2 is better.
  2. 00:07:913 (6) Long slider is so hard for beginner players. I recommended to change to spinner.
  3. 00:15:080 (11) change to Finish for consistency with 00:14:413 (10)
  4. 00:46:774 (7) Finish is better?
  5. 00:56:274 (20) I think Finish will be good accent.
  6. 01:10:940 (38) Finish ^ no, i think there is no need to put finish here
    01:32:274 (65) ^ no
  7. 01:52:940 Spinner.
[ Futsuu]
  1. 00:07:913 (10) I think spinner is better, too.
  2. 00:38:874 (82) change to d for better consistency.
  3. 00:42:941 (1) Finish.
  4. 00:56:274 (32) Finish. same as Kantan.
  5. 01:10:940 (69) ^ no, same as kantan
    01:32:274 (125) ^ no
  6. 01:52:940 spinner same as kantan.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. Scroll changes are so many x_x I dont think these are really needed.
  2. 00:31:416 (73) Finish is better.
  3. 01:52:274 (9) Finish. You put finish on kantan and futsuu.
Good luck. 8-)
thank you!


Surono wrote:

ngapain kamu ikutan2 >:^( kzl nich~~~
wkwkwk sabar2...
ini kan map aku wajar dong kalo ikut2an :p
infr4
From queue

[Kantan]
HP 4 is so high to kantan
fix to less than 3

00:20:580 - d
00:32:094 - ^
00:46:774 - ^
00:48:607 - k
00:49:940 - ^
00:54:774 - d
01:22:107 - missed d

note
01:05:607 - move to 01:05:440 and d here, also 01:06:274 k here
01:16:274 - move to 01:16:107 and 01:16:940 add k here
01:26:940 - move to 01:26:774 and 01:27:607 add d here
01:37:607 - ^

[Futsuu]
better than Kantan

00:41:924 (81),(82) - d
00:55:274 - d


(throwing keyboard)

really using Big notes and Kats without sense.

at least, big notes fine but those kats... over 60% of maps use kat

well, try to reduce kats

Edited : no kds, at least not helpful
Topic Starter
Volta

infr4 wrote:

From queue

[Kantan]
HP 4 is so high to kantan
fix to less than 3 no, i think 4 is ok for kantan. try to beat that.
00:20:580 - d
00:32:094 - ^
00:46:774 - ^
00:48:607 - k
00:49:940 - ^
i'm afraid at those timing my map is already like your mod says, maybe you used the unupdated map

00:54:774 - d ]nope, high pitch
01:22:107 - missed d purposely left blank to give break


note
01:05:607 - move to 01:05:440 and d here, also 01:06:274 k here
01:16:274 - move to 01:16:107 and 01:16:940 add k here
01:26:940 - move to 01:26:774 and 01:27:607 add d here
01:37:607 - ^

no change

[Futsuu]
better than Kantan

00:41:924 (81),(82) - d
00:55:274 - d

also no change


(throwing keyboard) *catch the keyboard*

really using Big notes and Kats without sense.

at least, big notes fine but those kats... over 60% of maps use kat do you have bad memories with kat bro?
actually 60% is fine as long as it fits


well, try to reduce kats maybe i'll try to reduce carbondioxide emission instead

Edited : no kds, at least not helpful

edit: whatever, thank you for mod (:
OzzyOzrock
YOOOOOOOOOOO

[General]
- BG is really low quality when viewed in osu!, the size it's at isn't very good nowadays, but it's probably still rankable.
- 00:50:940 () - Listen here on Kantan. BPM is late here. Look to ask a timing expert.

[Nardo's Oni]
00:07:913 (1) - weird coming from me, but I think a slider is better for these kinds of steady drum rolls
00:26:670 (79,80) - swapping these two matches vocals, but maybe you don't want that ;A;

Kind of weird seeing the density drop a lot in the middle of the verses.

00:46:274 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185) - change these notes to something else, so it's not weird that 00:48:107 (190) - here, there's no finisher 00:46:774 (183) - but there is one here; and that 00:48:607 (192) - does have a finisher but 00:47:274 (185) - does not (because no HEY!)

Kind of hard to find a solution there, haha. But I really think some variation would help it not be so contradicting.

01:21:524 () - d here, so it's consistent with 01:18:857 (370) - this note existing?

The first half of second kiai, how about less 'ddk'? xP
You don't use kkk a lot there, maybe try to find some spots for it.
01:07:941 (306,307,308,309,310) - like k d kkk here? But maybe you think it's too many 1/2 in a row XD
01:10:940 (323,324,325,326,327) - kkk k D? ok now i'm making bad suggestions to add 'kkk' LOL

At least it'll be easy DT yeahyeah, but it's a great map in your style!
[Oni]
Holy macaroni those greens. 89%? Make it 90%?
Change name to Inner Oni? It's worthy :p

I am super against a lot of your scroll speed changes.They make notes look clumped a lot and don't really add any feel, as the song is pretty mellow throughout (ninja notes, a-ok though lmao)
Also, the drum roll streams go really low volume, but you're lucky it works... :p

00:16:247 (93,94,95,96,97,98) - guitar is going down-up here, so dkk ddk?
00:17:913 (106) - remove to compliment the chords here? you put gaps where the guitar stopped before
00:24:467 (147,152) - swapping these keeps the consistent 'k k' heard during these parts!
00:29:213 (181) - k, for the same 'k k' consistency stuff?
00:35:314 (223,228) - swap these for the same reason as ^
00:37:348 (238) - then 'k' here for--yeah that. Completely up to you if you want to try hard to keep that 'k k' rhythm going on. I'll quit mentioning it since it should be easy to catch if you want it!
00:42:263 (265,266,267,268,269,270,1) - not 1/3 at all, should reaaaally change it.
00:51:607 (42,43,44,45,46) - kkd k D instead?
00:52:940 (50,51,52) - then to avoid kkd again, ddd?
00:55:440 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75) - following vocals in a stream is weird here since it makes such a boring stream haha, but it's fine. just following drum is more immersive imo
01:02:190 (120) - d, ddd just fits more imo
01:13:607 (205) - k, fits vocal, feels better.
01:27:440 (298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308) - kddkddkkkkd is a MUCH nicer stream here, trust me.
01:32:274 (337,338,339) - the song has a sound here that makes my ears tingle. (uhh.. big notes suggestion?)
01:38:107 (378,379,380,381) - this is just a 'kd' not a 1/6 :(
01:38:940 () how slow it is here is really confusing because of the previous slow-down, just not done well. How about the 1/6 part is .88 then this is .75?
01:53:857 () - this is the worst speed-up ever, why isn't it like the first stream?
02:25:607 (268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284) - yeaaah ok trust me on this one too:

this follows drum perfectly and it's as tough as the old stream

Diff is pretty dense for such a song, but it's done in a simple way. Rethink some scroll speed changes (I recommend not going below .75)
[Muzukashii]
01:16:774 (165,166,167,168,169) - d kkk kkk to try and map the drum roll? if you want to only have one triplet, ignore this
01:27:440 (216,217,218,219,220,221) - would kkd d kkk be too hard for you? if so, just apply the 'd' change, which I think fits well.
01:29:107 () - randomly not dense here, add d?
01:47:774 () - the drums are going crazy here, add 'k' so this isn't weirdly empty?
02:10:774 (103) - k, since it's been kdkdkdd, and then kdkdkkd and this keeps it consistent
02:11:440 (106) - this is the only one that's this long (aka inconsistent)
02:15:940 (132) - k here is also because of the 'every other is k k at the end'

good for the most part!
[Futsuu]
00:26:670 (40) - open hi-hat is not a good place for a finisher :p remove finisher?
01:44:274 (154) - may as well add a finisher too with all the big notes you've spammed here XD
01:46:274 (4) - why not k? following drum maybe, but obviously also vocals
02:15:607 (50,51,52,53) - d d k D is better here imo
02:25:274 (76) - remove this to have mercy?

good overall!
[Kantan]
OD 4 should be fine.
Try to keep notes on white ticks only.

00:31:416 (22) - delete? too many notes in a row for what the density has been
00:53:607 (14,15,16,17) - change to spinner? too many red line notes for kantan
01:16:940 (45) - delete? same thing about too many
01:32:774 (67) - ^ really, don't worry about following rhythms so closely on kantan

It's good! Just red ticks are kind of bad for kantan. Don't be afraid to over-simplify!

Good mapset! I need to sleep.
Topic Starter
Volta

OzzyOzrock wrote:

YOOOOOOOOOOO

[General]
- BG is really low quality when viewed in osu!, the size it's at isn't very good nowadays, but it's probably still rankable.
- 00:50:940 () - Listen here on Kantan. BPM is late here. Look to ask a timing expert. dunno, i don't think it's late. but i'll look for timing expert


[Oni]
Holy macaroni those greens. 89%? Make it 90%? Greens is good for your health. but i guess it's too much. okay, revised the SV change. and i set the volume in a hurry and it stopped at 89% lol. changed to 90%
Change name to Inner Oni? It's worthy :p yes, i also think this is harder than oni and have waited for modder opinion. changed.

I am super against a lot of your scroll speed changes.They make notes look clumped a lot and don't really add any feel, as the song is pretty mellow throughout (ninja notes, a-ok though lmao) removed the SV change except the ninja notes
Also, the drum roll streams go really low volume, but you're lucky it works... :p

00:16:247 (93,94,95,96,97,98) - guitar is going down-up here, so dkk ddk? i keep it because..what is it. preference?
00:17:913 (106) - remove to compliment the chords here? you put gaps where the guitar stopped beforenope, i put gaps before because there is big note
00:24:467 (147,152) - swapping these keeps the consistent 'k k' heard during these parts!
00:29:213 (181) - k, for the same 'k k' consistency stuff?
00:35:314 (223,228) - swap these for the same reason as ^
00:37:348 (238) - then 'k' here for--yeah that. Completely up to you if you want to try hard to keep that 'k k' rhythm going on. I'll quit mentioning it since it should be easy to catch if you want it! hmm..i'll think about them. keep it for now
00:42:263 (265,266,267,268,269,270,1) - not 1/3 at all, should reaaaally change it. changed
00:51:607 (42,43,44,45,46) - kkd k D instead?the current one flows better imo, so no change
00:52:940 (50,51,52) - then to avoid kkd again, ddd? ^
00:55:440 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75) - following vocals in a stream is weird here since it makes such a boring stream haha, but it's fine. just following drum is more immersive imo hmm.. i guess its boring for pro player like you. sorry about that. but i want to keep it
01:02:190 (120) - d, ddd just fits more imo there is a...what is it called? slighly ups and then down again in vocal so dkd is fit i think
01:13:607 (205) - k, fits vocal, feels better. good, changed
01:27:440 (298,299,300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308) - kddkddkkkkd is a MUCH nicer stream here, trust me. don't worry ozz, i trust you
01:32:274 (337,338,339) - the song has a sound here that makes my ears tingle. (uhh.. big notes suggestion?) yes the end is already big note
01:38:107 (378,379,380,381) - this is just a 'kd' not a 1/6 :( really? oh yes. changed.
01:38:940 () how slow it is here is really confusing because of the previous slow-down, just not done well. How about the 1/6 part is .88 then this is .75?
01:53:857 () - this is the worst speed-up ever, why isn't it like the first stream? fixed
02:25:607 (268,269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284) - yeaaah ok trust me on this one too:

this follows drum perfectly and it's as tough as the old stream fixed!

Diff is pretty dense for such a song, but it's done in a simple way. Rethink some scroll speed changes (I recommend not going below .75) yes, i purposely try to make a map like that. SV has been revised
[Muzukashii]
01:16:774 (165,166,167,168,169) - d kkk kkk to try and map the drum roll? if you want to only have one triplet, ignore this one triplet is fine.
01:27:440 (216,217,218,219,220,221) - would kkd d kkk be too hard for you? if so, just apply the 'd' change, which I think fits well. no, its good. changed
01:29:107 () - randomly not dense here, add d? ok
01:47:774 () - the drums are going crazy here, add 'k' so this isn't weirdly empty?
02:10:774 (103) - k, since it's been kdkdkdd, and then kdkdkkd and this keeps it consistent ok
02:11:440 (106) - this is the only one that's this long (aka inconsistent) you're right. deleted.
02:15:940 (132) - k here is also because of the 'every other is k k at the end' 'kay

good for the most part!
[Futsuu]
00:26:670 (40) - open hi-hat is not a good place for a finisher :p remove finisher? okay. why do i even put big note there
01:44:274 (154) - may as well add a finisher too with all the big notes you've spammed here XD nope. enough spam here lol
01:46:274 (4) - why not k? following drum maybe, but obviously also vocals because the second one is k, so i want to make this different
02:15:607 (50,51,52,53) - d d k D is better here imo ok
02:25:274 (76) - remove this to have mercy? i have no mercy 8-) i think its fine as it is, so no change

good overall!
[Kantan]
OD 4 should be fine.
Try to keep notes on white ticks only.

00:31:416 (22) - delete? too many notes in a row for what the density has been
00:53:607 (14,15,16,17) - change to spinner? too many red line notes for kantan
01:16:940 (45) - delete? same thing about too many
01:32:774 (67) - ^ really, don't worry about following rhythms so closely on kantan

It's good! Just red ticks are kind of bad for kantan. Don't be afraid to over-simplify!
all apllied
Good mapset! I need to sleep.
thank you for mod! good night :D
Nardoxyribonucleic

OzzyOzrock wrote:

YOOOOOOOOOOO

[Nardo's Oni]
00:07:913 (1) - weird coming from me, but I think a slider is better for these kinds of steady drum rolls I would like to keep this atm to make it consistent with 01:52:940 -
00:26:670 (79,80) - swapping these two matches vocals, but maybe you don't want that ;A; k d would fit the drop in vocal pitch currently.

Kind of weird seeing the density drop a lot in the middle of the verses. A drop in note density could fit the relatively relaxing music there.

00:46:274 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185) - change these notes to something else, so it's not weird that 00:48:107 (190) - here, there's no finisher 00:46:774 (183) - but there is one here; and that 00:48:607 (192) - does have a finisher but 00:47:274 (185) - does not (because no HEY!) Removed the finish at 00:46:774 (183) -

Kind of hard to find a solution there, haha. But I really think some variation would help it not be so contradicting.

01:21:524 () - d here, so it's consistent with 01:18:857 (370) - this note existing? There is no drum sound at 01:21:524 - , so adding a note here would sound rather unnecessary.

The first half of second kiai, how about less 'ddk'? xP
You don't use kkk a lot there, maybe try to find some spots for it.
01:07:941 (306,307,308,309,310) - like k d kkk here? But maybe you think it's too many 1/2 in a row XD That's why I used the current pattern lol
01:10:940 (323,324,325,326,327) - kkk k D? ok now i'm making bad suggestions to add 'kkk' LOL k ddk D would fit the drums in a way better.

At least it'll be easy DT yeahyeah, but it's a great map in your style!

Good mapset! I need to sleep.
Thanks for your mod Ozzy~ :)

Update: http://puu.sh/iMVDB.rar
Topic Starter
Volta
updated Nardo's oni and slight change in inner oni
xtrem3x
Mod request via ...Queue

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General:

Hitsounds volume in 70-80% (so much loud)

Don: d
Kat: k
Big don: D
Big kat: K

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Kantan:

With ozzy's changes is better

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Futsuu:

Same as kantan

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Muzukashii:

00:07:913 - This -> This (triples with a single color and follow drums as Oni)

00:31:077 - Change to d (triples in a single color pls)

00:48:440 - Delete (not nessesary)
00:49:774 - same ^

00:51:190 - Delete (no have sound)

00:53:107 - Delete (breaks)

00:55:607 - Change to d (triples in a single color)
01:06:607 - Same ^

01:16:940 - d (triple in this part)
01:17:024 - d (same)

01:17:357 - Delete (not nessesary)

01:19:940 - Change to d (triples in a single color)

01:25:107 - Move to 01:25:440

01:27:524 - Move to 01:27:857
01:27:607 - Change to k

01:31:107 - Delete (breaks)

01:38:440 - Change to d (single color ...)

01:49:107 - Delete (breaks)

01:54:274 - Change to k (single color)

01:56:440 - Delete (breaks)
01:56:774 - ^

01:59:107 - Delete (follow drums but a break is nessesary and have emphasis with vocal in this part)
01:59:607 - Delete (same ^)

02:01:607 - Delete (breaks)
02:01:940 - Same ^

02:04:940 - Change to k (for a triple)
02:05:024 - k
02:05:524 - Delete (is triple here but not really nessesary)

02:06:940 - Delete (breaks)
02:07:107 - Same ^

02:09:607 - Delete (breaks)

02:12:274 - Delete (breaks)
02:12:440 - Same ^

02:14:940 - Delete (breaks)

02:15:774 - Change to k (triple with single color)

02:22:940 - Delete (breaks)

02:25:857 - k (a triple)
02:25:940 - Change to k (triple with single color)

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Oni (now Inner):

00:07:913 - Change to k since note 21 until note 48 - in d notes 49,50,51,52 and k note 53 (if follow drums this is better imo)

00:11:830 (63,64) - ctrl+g (high sound)
00:13:164 (73,74) - same ^
00:18:830 (114,115) - ^

00:42:263 - This -> This (last note is D --- can apply RULE but is good this pattern imo .. if not work can delete 00:42:857- )

01:02:940 - Change to k (high vocal sound and drum)
01:10:940 - same

01:52:940 - Delete (no have sound)
01:53:024 - Delete ^
01:53:107 - Delete ^ (starts correctly stream in 01:53:190- )

01:53:190 - All these stream change to k except last note .... (if follow drums obviously)

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Nardo's Oni:

00:27:009 - Change to k (your sequence is broken here)

00:37:348 - ctrl+g with next note (high sound)
00:37:857 - Change to k (same reason in 00:27:009- )

02:15:857 - add note (is a bit ... empty?)

02:32:940 - here spinner ends .... (change sound and finish .-.)

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Topic Starter
Volta

xtrem3x wrote:

[b]Mod request via ...Queue

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General:

Hitsounds volume in 70-80% (so much loud)

Don: d
Kat: k
Big don: D
Big kat: K

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Kantan:

With ozzy's changes is better

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Futsuu:

Same as kantan

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Muzukashii:

00:07:913 - This -> This (triples with a single color and follow drums as Oni) i followed the heartbeat-like sounds, so not changed. except the triplet

00:31:077 - Change to d (triples in a single color pls) 'kay sir

00:48:440 - Delete (not nessesary) there is drum sound there. keep
00:49:774 - same ^ ^

00:51:190 - Delete (no have sound) fixed

00:53:107 - Delete (breaks) umm..no?

00:55:607 - Change to d (triples in a single color) changed to kkk instead.
01:06:607 - Same ^ ^

01:16:940 - d (triple in this part)
01:17:024 - d (same)

01:17:357 - Delete (not nessesary) keep the kat triplet, but added d at 01:16:940

01:19:940 - Change to d (triples in a single color) when i heard it, it better removed the triplet in this part. change into something simpler.

01:25:107 - Move to 01:25:440 okay

01:27:524 - Move to 01:27:857
01:27:607 - Change to k are you sure? that will turn into some hard pattern for muzukashi. keep.

01:31:107 - Delete (breaks)

01:38:440 - Change to d (single color ...) hai hai

01:49:107 - Delete (breaks)

01:54:274 - Change to k (single color) roger

01:56:440 - Delete (breaks)
01:56:774 - ^

01:59:107 - Delete (follow drums but a break is nessesary and have emphasis with vocal in this part)
01:59:607 - Delete (same ^)

02:01:607 - Delete (breaks)
02:01:940 - Same ^

okay, i gave some breaks.

02:04:940 - Change to k (for a triple)
02:05:024 - k
02:05:524 - Delete (is triple here but not really nessesary)
kay

02:06:940 - Delete (breaks)
02:07:107 - Same ^

02:09:607 - Delete (breaks)

02:12:274 - Delete (breaks)
02:12:440 - Same ^

02:14:940 - Delete (breaks)

02:15:774 - Change to k (triple with single color)

02:22:940 - Delete (breaks)

02:25:857 - k (a triple)
02:25:940 - Change to k (triple with single color)

yosshh
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Oni (now Inner):

00:07:913 - Change to k since note 21 until note 48 - in d notes 49,50,51,52 and k note 53 (if follow drums this is better imo) keep. the current one is fine

00:11:830 (63,64) - ctrl+g (high sound) there are slighlty lower sound before and after so dkd is fits
00:13:164 (73,74) - same ^ dkd can emphasis the sudden stop in electric guitar so no
00:18:830 (114,115) - ^ ^

00:42:263 - This -> This (last note is D --- can apply RULE but is good this pattern imo .. if not work can delete 00:42:857- ) it's not working right. current one is better. oh, found better pattern.

01:02:940 - Change to k (high vocal sound and drum) fixed
01:10:940 - same ^

01:52:940 - Delete (no have sound) i start the stream here with really low volume. because its really strange if start at 01:53:190 - ozzy said it works so i keep it
01:53:024 - Delete ^
01:53:107 - Delete ^ (starts correctly stream in 01:53:190- )

01:53:190 - All these stream change to k except last note .... (if follow drums obviously) d is fine

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thank you for mod.
Nardoxyribonucleic

xtrem3x wrote:

Mod request via ...Queue

________________________________________________________________________

General:

Hitsounds volume in 70-80% (so much loud)

Don: d
Kat: k
Big don: D
Big kat: K

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Nardo's Oni:

00:27:009 - Change to k (your sequence is broken here) This is intentional so that the vocal would be followed in a way better.

00:37:348 - ctrl+g with next note (high sound) Retained to follow the cymbal at 00:37:348 -
00:37:857 - Change to k (same reason in 00:27:009- ) same as 00:27:009 - , the vocal is low-pitched there.

02:15:857 - add note (is a bit ... empty?) I don't think so. It suits the difficulty imo.

02:32:940 - here spinner ends .... (change sound and finish .-.) Currently keeping this atm. I think both of them would work.

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Thanks for your mod~ :)
BeoMu
Hello from my queue

Please note , I am biggner modder


[Kantan]


It is perfect.



[Futsuu]

00:05:746 - K

00:21:246 - D

00:45:607 - D

00:46:274 - K

01:13:607 - D


That part may seem like part would be fun to put on Finish .



[Muzukashii]


01:32:791 - d

01:47:607 - d

Too hard to find by creating too well. TT


Good Luck

I think the same will be Ranked !
Topic Starter
Volta

BeoMu wrote:

Hello from my queue

Please note , I am biggner modder


[Kantan]


It is perfect. thanks!



[Futsuu]

00:05:746 - K not really needed to add finisher in this note because there's nothing to emphasist

00:21:246 - D ok. to keep the balance, removed the finisher at 00:20:246 (24)

00:45:607 - D not a big note here, because i'm following vocal pitch which is going down (and nothing to emphasis)

00:46:274 - K it's not the strongest part of the song so too many finisher won't fit. (and nothing to emphasis)

01:13:607 - D nope


That part may seem like part would be fun to put on Finish .



[Muzukashii]


01:32:791 - d umm..what time again? its not in any tick

01:47:607 - d i want to give emphasis on those crazy drum sound

Too hard to find by creating too well. TT thanks!


Good Luck

I think the same will be Ranked !
thank you for mod :)
Renka
hi,from my forum~

[General]
[*]kiai time has not been unified in the degree of difficulty of Nardo and the Pan?To try to match the kiai time in Nardo?

[Kantan]

general : SV is 1.4?

01:06:940 - add D? - 00:56:274 as with
01:26:940 move to 01:26:774? -
The end of the spinner to 01:54:607,01:54:940 add D? - Since the rust has been started in the spinner of the end point
02:08:274 - add D? - The sound the same 02:05:607.02:10:940?
02:13:607 - ^
02:16:274 - ^

[Fustuu]
00:13:580 - change d? - I think I fit in more The sound
00:18:913 - ^
00:25:653(36,37,38) - kdk? - To fit in front of the kdk.
00:44:941 - delete? - Put a little bit of break
00:53:274 - change d? - seme as 00:13:580
01:02:274 - change d? - To match the The sound
01:54:607 - same as kantan
02:00:274 - add D?
02:19:274 - change d? - same as 00:13:580
02:26:107(78,79) - Ctrl+G? - I think I fit in more The sound

[Muzukashii]
I generally feel a lot Notes,I think that is a good person who took the other diff and balance.

[Nardo's Oni]
01:22:440 - change k? - 01:22:607 and sound the same?
Topic Starter
Volta

chaica wrote:

hi,from my forum~

[General]
[*]kiai time has not been unified in the degree of difficulty of Nardo and the Pan?To try to match the kiai time in Nardo? fixed

[Kantan]

general : SV is 1.4? 1.2 is okay because 1.4 feels a bit fast at 180 BPM for kantan

01:06:940 - add D? - 00:56:274 as with okay!
01:26:940 move to 01:26:774? - i tried to minimized notes in red tick usage, but i think your suggestion is okay and can't be helped. moved.
The end of the spinner to 01:54:607, 01:54:940 add D? - Since the rust has been started in the spinner of the end point end it at 01:54:274 - to give more break before the D
02:08:274 - add D? - The sound the same 02:05:607.02:10:940? no because 02:05:607 (11) - is the end of drumming and the beginning of lalalala so it need emphasis, not like the other notes
02:13:607 - ^ ^
02:16:274 - ^ ^

[Fustuu]
00:13:580 - change d? - I think I fit in more The sound no because it has same pitch as 00:13:913 (9) -
00:18:913 - ^ ^
00:25:653(36,37,38) - kdk? - To fit in front of the kdk.either way is working but i prefer the current one
00:44:941 - delete? - Put a little bit of break deleted.
00:53:274 - change d? - seme as 00:13:580 this time i agree.
01:02:274 - change d? - To match the The sound ok
01:54:607 - same as kantan ^
02:00:274 - add D? no, not a good place to add finisher i think
02:19:274 - change d? - same as 00:13:580 no, same thing about guitar pitch
02:26:107(78,79) - Ctrl+G? - I think I fit in more The sound ok

[Muzukashii]
I generally feel a lot Notes,I think that is a good person who took the other diff and balance. it's thanks to extremex so i deleted many notes.
thanks for mod!


Loli Master wrote:

Well... i deleted the previous answer to this (for accident) so i'll try to write the same .-. i think the timing is fine now, i checked the metronome but the difference is minimal and is only in one Tick of the entire song, the rest of the timing is fine (at least for me) but if you want try to ask this again to a more experimented modder or a BN or QAT (only to be sure haha) but i think is probably they say the same as me but is probably too that they say something different, but just in case try it (if you not tried yet) :P
Loli Master answer for timing check via pm. thank you!
Nardoxyribonucleic

chaica wrote:

hi,from my forum~

[General]
[*]kiai time has not been unified in the degree of difficulty of Nardo and the Pan?To try to match the kiai time in Nardo?

[Nardo's Oni]
01:22:440 - change k? - 01:22:607 and sound the same? They are a bit different since 01:22:440 - does not have the snare sound.
Thanks for your mod~ :)
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