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LeaF - Doppelganger [Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Loctav
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Samstag, 2. Januar 2016 at 14:34:31

Artist: LeaF
Title: Doppelganger
Source: BMS
Tags: THE OF FIGHTERS 2013 BOF FRENZ Come To An End Einsamkeit Nwolf
BPM: 280
Filesize: 3760kb
Play Time: 02:21
Difficulties Available:
  1. Fatal Oni (6,86 stars, 1172 notes)
  2. Nwolf's Futsuu (1,99 stars, 272 notes)
  3. Nwolf's Muzukashii (3 stars, 543 notes)
  4. Oni (4,32 stars, 853 notes)
Download: LeaF - Doppelganger
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Oh god, why?!

Thanks to Nwolf for the easier difficulties! Thanks to Gamu for the timing!
Irreversible
00:35:933 (242,243,244,245,246,247,248,249,250,251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270,271,272,273,274) -

:o
Kyouren
Loctav is back! and 1 question:
Where is Kantan diff? :?:
Bara-
I really like this map
But the spread between Muzu Oni and Fatal is a bit high. You might want to add an inner oni, and as Goku said, a Kantan is also recommended (mostly because star rating of futsuu in 1.98, thus really close to 2
IF you need any of these diff, you can call me :P
meii18

baraatje123 wrote:

I really like this map
But the spread between Muzu Oni and Fatal is a bit high. You might want to add an inner oni, and as Goku said, a Kantan is also recommended (mostly because star rating of futsuu in 1.98, thus really close to 2
IF you need any of these diff, you can call me :P
maybe the mapper prefer the following spread : Futsuu , Muzukashii , Oni and Inner Oni. To remove the big gap between Muzu oni and Fatal Oni he could make a new diff between those diffs

I hope I didn't make a mistake ;w;
Nwolf
this spread is consistently wide (except the intentional AND okay gap between Oni - Fatal Oni) so no more diffs required
Topic Starter
Loctav

ByBy_ChAn wrote:

baraatje123 wrote:

I really like this map
But the spread between Muzu Oni and Fatal is a bit high. You might want to add an inner oni, and as Goku said, a Kantan is also recommended (mostly because star rating of futsuu in 1.98, thus really close to 2
IF you need any of these diff, you can call me :P
maybe the mapper prefer the following spread : Futsuu , Muzukashii , Oni and Inner Oni. To remove the big gap between Muzu oni and Fatal Oni he could make a new diff between those diffs

I hope I didn't make a mistake ;w;
As the suggestion itself is fine, but the gaps between all difficulties are mostly consistently large. The increase is linear, the size of the gaps is similiar, lowest diff is below 2.0, patterning in taiko is also reasonably spread apart and increases in a linear and comfortable way.
The fact that the gaps itself are just overall big is not an issue. The gaps must be, compared with each other, just similiarly large. At least in Taiko.

If I would prefer to have smaller gaps overall, I would do more diffs, but I am fine with larger gaps in general - especially for such a song.
Hunter Howl
So, uh . . . . .
Can i give a shot of this? (like modding)
Topic Starter
Loctav
Go ahead!
Hunter Howl

Loctav wrote:

Go ahead!
allright then. i'm just trying here in Fatal Oni diff and giving some minor suggestion. feel free to ignore though

you know the drill of taiko modding kdKD. Also my first taiko modding

00:01:112 (3,4) - k k
00:07:540 (34) - d
00:08:612 (45,46) - d k
00:12:790 (85) - D
00:13:755 (95,96,97) - d d k
00:16:183 (127) - K
00:17:469 (131) - D
00:19:005 (151,153) - d d
00:19:648 (155) - D
00:19:862 (156,158) - d d
00:22:433 (170,172) - k d
00:27:648 (201,202,203) - d d k
00:31:648 (229,230,231,233) - K D D D
00:33:576 (234,235) - K K
00:38:719 (283) - d
00:41:290 (311) - D
00:43:326 (335,336,337) - d d k
00:50:612 (412) - d
00:53:237 (438) - ^
00:53:237 (438) - ^
00:53:773 (445) - ^
00:54:790 (451) - ^
00:55:862 (456,458) - k k
00:58:862 (474,475,476) - k k d
00:59:826 (480) - d
01:01:005 (489) - D
01:02:719 (496) - k
01:03:362 (501,502,503,504) - K D D D
01:05:219 (517,518) - k d
01:07:648 (536) - D
01:09:255 (556) - ^
01:16:862 (640) - d
01:17:398 (643) - d
01:17:719 (645) - d
01:19:005 (652,653,654) - k k d
01:22:862 (1) - this spinner could be removed
01:35:612 (118,119) - k d
01:46:755 (202,203) - D D
01:48:148 (208,209) - d k
01:52:648 (8) - d
01:57:790 (23) - ^
02:03:362 (59) - k

i think that's all. and remember. it's for Fatal Oni
Topic Starter
Loctav

raianshimuzu wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Go ahead!
allright then. i'm just trying here in Fatal Oni diff and giving some minor suggestion. feel free to ignore though

you know the drill of taiko modding kdKD. Also my first taiko modding

00:01:112 (3,4) - k k
00:07:540 (34) - d
00:08:612 (45,46) - d k
00:12:790 (85) - D
00:13:755 (95,96,97) - d d k
00:16:183 (127) - K
00:17:469 (131) - D
00:19:005 (151,153) - d d
00:19:648 (155) - D
00:19:862 (156,158) - d d
00:22:433 (170,172) - k d
00:27:648 (201,202,203) - d d k
00:31:648 (229,230,231,233) - K D D D
00:33:576 (234,235) - K K
00:38:719 (283) - d
00:41:290 (311) - D
00:43:326 (335,336,337) - d d k
00:50:612 (412) - d
00:53:237 (438) - ^
00:53:237 (438) - ^
00:53:773 (445) - ^
00:54:790 (451) - ^
00:55:862 (456,458) - k k
00:58:862 (474,475,476) - k k d
00:59:826 (480) - d
01:01:005 (489) - D
01:02:719 (496) - k
01:03:362 (501,502,503,504) - K D D D
01:05:219 (517,518) - k d
01:07:648 (536) - D
01:09:255 (556) - ^
01:16:862 (640) - d
01:17:398 (643) - d
01:17:719 (645) - d
01:19:005 (652,653,654) - k k d
01:22:862 (1) - this spinner could be removed
01:35:612 (118,119) - k d
01:46:755 (202,203) - D D
01:48:148 (208,209) - d k
01:52:648 (8) - d
01:57:790 (23) - ^
02:03:362 (59) - k

i think that's all. and remember. it's for Fatal Oni
Thanks for your try, but unfortunately I can not agree with anything provided here. This is mostly because I have no idea why you suggest this. I considered some of your changes but concluded that I preferred my current version more. However, if you wish to improve into modding, try to point out why you think something should be changed. Then explain to what you want to see it changed. And then explain why your option might be better.
Thank you a lot for your efforts, tho!
xtrem3x
Fatal Oni:

00:37:165 - Change to k (your sequence is predictable, but in this point change a bit your sequence and forget this "distorted sound") (?)

00:39:576 - in this point you wanted to make remarkable doubles but no have effect, can be in 1/4 normal these 4 notes dd dd (the next kk kk are correct)

00:43:219 - Change to k (is a notable high distorted sound)

01:30:683 - Change to k (this part is high as previous note)

is a bit unrankeable but passable with Halftime is fun XD
Kurokotei

FINALLY
Raiden
to show my gratitude here's a mod

[>General<]
Normal Default hitsounds? (All diffs)

[>Fatal Oni<]
You might as well use OD7 for long patterns at this BPM

00:03:790 (1) - Start it 1/2 tick after, there is a hit at 00:03:790 - (or you may as well delete it, it's too short and confusing >_>)
00:14:933 - The 1/6th extends until this point, so considering the difficulty of this I'd just do kkkkkkd until the white tick
00:15:469 - There is a sound here though, you can add a don so it flows a lot better for the next pattern at 00:15:576 -
00:16:183 (127) - Wrong snap? Shouldn't this be at the white tick?
00:16:826 (129) - ^
00:17:469 (131) - ^
00:40:165 - Might as well add a don here to avoid the stuttering at the (dddd)
00:40:380 - Add a don? Fits nicely imo
00:44:719 - Similar as a bit above, the 1/6 extends up until here
00:45:094 - Add a don? Goes with the melody
00:52:648 (427) - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????????????????????
01:05:219 (510,511) - Starting from here you could alternate instead of doing the first dk and all the rest kd (idea: dk kd dk kd dk kd etc.)
01:10:005 (558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567) - This is super evil but fits with the song so won't say anything haha
01:22:862 (1) - booh, delete this, add notes, anything but a short ass spinner
Last kiai is inmensely dense i love it
02:19:433 (261,262,263,264,265,266,267) - oh my god kill with fire thanks

[>Oni<]

OD6?
00:03:790 (1) - same as Fatal Oni
00:16:183 (96,98,100) - Wrongly snapped, like in Fatal Oni
00:52:648 (1) - >>>>>__________>>>>>
01:08:290 (1) - <<<<<__________<<<<<
01:22:862 (1) - PLEASE LOCTAV STOP THIS MADNESS
02:14:076 (143,144,145,146,147) - This is the only 1/4 in the whole map, just sayin'. Maybe you should add more simple 1/4s in other parts.

[>Nwolf's Muzu<]

It's okay I guess. It's well differentiated from Oni. Nothing out of sight <_<

[>Nwolf's Futsuu<]

01:15:040 (43) - might as well move 1/2 tick before >_>
01:44:505 (40) - What's this representing in the middle of nothing?
That's all peeps call me back
Nwolf

Raiden wrote:

[>Nwolf's Futsuu<]

01:15:040 (43) - might as well move 1/2 tick before >_> moved
01:44:505 (40) - What's this representing in the middle of nothing? kind of connecting, also there's sounds here (which are mapped more in Muzu)
ty

EDIT: @Loctav please increase Futsuu's and Muzu's HP drain to 5

Futsuu
osu file format v14

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Title:Doppelganger
TitleUnicode:Doppelganger
Artist:LeaF
ArtistUnicode:LeaF
Creator:Loctav
Version:Nwolf's Futsuu
Source:BMS
Tags:THE OF FIGHTERS 2013 BOF FRENZ Come To An End Einsamkeit
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Topic Starter
Loctav

Raiden wrote:

to show my gratitude here's a mod

[notice][>General<]
Normal Default hitsounds? (All diffs) something is terribly wrong with me that I constantly oversee that.

[>Fatal Oni<]
You might as well use OD7 for long patterns at this BPM ????? what. OD7 is pmuch overkill with the high bpm and the overflow 1/6 patterns.

00:03:790 (1) - Start it 1/2 tick after, there is a hit at 00:03:790 - (or you may as well delete it, it's too short and confusing >_>) it's not too short? its supposed to be confusing...
00:14:933 - The 1/6th extends until this point, so considering the difficulty of this I'd just do kkkkkkd until the white tick that's overkill. no.
00:15:469 - There is a sound here though, you can add a don so it flows a lot better for the next pattern at 00:15:576 - ok
00:16:183 (127) - Wrong snap? Shouldn't this be at the white tick? wtf how did that happen?!
00:16:826 (129) - ^
00:17:469 (131) - ^
00:40:165 - Might as well add a don here to avoid the stuttering at the (dddd) or I make the kat a don, so you can overflow better.
00:40:380 - Add a don? Fits nicely imo mmmhnah
00:44:719 - Similar as a bit above, the 1/6 extends up until here still overkill.
00:45:094 - Add a don? Goes with the melody not right in front of a 1/6
00:52:648 (427) - hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????????????????? I can hardly put 1/8 there.
01:05:219 (510,511) - Starting from here you could alternate instead of doing the first dk and all the rest kd (idea: dk kd dk kd dk kd etc.) but.. it's consistent. because the song is... ;_;
01:10:005 (558,559,560,561,562,563,564,565,566,567) - This is super evil but fits with the song so won't say anything haha
01:22:862 (1) - booh, delete this, add notes, anything but a short ass spinner uh, no. short ass spinners are a legit technique to stress the confusion caused by the song with even more confusion! aha!
Last kiai is inmensely dense i love it
02:19:433 (261,262,263,264,265,266,267) - oh my god kill with fire thanks ha! you suggested to extend 1/6 everywhere and when I try to make a finish peak at the end of the diff, you want me to kill it? ;D this is THE climax.

[>Oni<]

OD6? mmhm no. I want to keep it in line with the Fatal.
00:03:790 (1) - same as Fatal Oni yup, same.
00:16:183 (96,98,100) - Wrongly snapped, like in Fatal Oni
00:52:648 (1) - >>>>>__________>>>>> you really suck at spinners, eh?
01:08:290 (1) - <<<<<__________<<<<< lol
01:22:862 (1) - PLEASE LOCTAV STOP THIS MADNESS NEVER
02:14:076 (143,144,145,146,147) - This is the only 1/4 in the whole map, just sayin'. Maybe you should add more simple 1/4s in other parts. and the last kiai! pretty fitting, ain't it?
Raiden
how can eyes be real if my mirror is not real
Nwolf
ooo
Yuzeyun
send me hair conditioner

[Fatal Oni]

00:50:398 - did you leave this out on purpose or is it a missed note
02:17:933 (243,244,245) - where is the quintuplet

[Oni]
01:22:862 (1) - 107ms spinner WHY it's actually hard to finish because you're forced to a minimum of 2 hits


dats all
Topic Starter
Loctav

_Gezo_ wrote:

send me hair conditioner

[Fatal Oni]

00:50:398 - did you leave this out on purpose or is it a missed note that's on purpose to make the finisher possible
02:17:933 (243,244,245) - where is the quintuplet I don't think, a quintuplet would work here, considering the overall pattern is always K d K d xxxxxx. Unless I am missing something here..?

[Oni]
01:22:862 (1) - 107ms spinner WHY it's actually hard to finish because you're forced to a minimum of 2 hits I can see that being an issue for the Oni at least. Changed to a don.


dats all
give me address!
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