Fullerene- wrote:

17VA wrote:

When I playing this beatmap, I saw SVs are increasing x1.2 ..1.3.. 1.35 .. terribly.

It must be used only in instant speed changes, not a overall speed changes.

While I personally think that anything over 1.15x/under 0.8x for long periods should be used sparingly, there's no rule saying "you must not use SVs other than 1.0x for long periods of the chart". What about slowjam? Does that mean you can't make the chart scroll slower when the song gets quiet/slow?

Did you not notice the patterns during the faster sections being simpler and easy to read? I'm pretty sure Reikosaka took that into account to make it smoother to transition into.

Agreed. I find myself telling a lot of people not to use speedups the exact same way 17va is for this map, but the difference here is that the speedups were well thought out here, and accounted for with the patterns. I play FL, which makes SVs that much harder, and the high speed sections here are actually my most consistent part of the map. Awkward patterns or patterns that use unusual layering are not unrankable.

Telling someone to remap their entire map is just being a dick, unless you are willing to spend hours pointing out enough outright mistakes to prove your point.

BMS style layering is only one kind of layering, and it also makes many awkward or painful patterns. Even if the patterns in this are difficult to understand, they are readable, and playable, and the map is structured well to match the structure of the song.

If you don't like the map, that's fine. But don't use that as an excuse to try to force Reikosaka to change perfectly rankable patterns because you don't happen to like them. 'Not fun' is not the same as 'Bad Map'.

sometimes


it is better to not be so much a dick to mapper

Bobbias wrote:

Agreed. I find myself telling a lot of people not to use speedups the exact same way 17va is for this map, but the difference here is that the speedups were well thought out here, and accounted for with the patterns.

Did you mean Reikosaka because I am a bit confused here

No, I meant that I actually usually agree with what 17va said, and I agree with what Fullerene was saying in his post. I usually say that speeds above 1x should only be used for very short effects, the same way 17va said. However, this map is an example of the rare case of someone actually using high speed SVs well, so even if they should only be used in rare cases, this is one of those rare cases where they are fine.

Hi hiii guys, let's just focus on getting mod and bat to rank normal way !!

If you guys find some stuff you don't like, help out this map by modding :3!

gl on re-ranking ^^

Bobbias wrote:

No, I meant that I actually usually agree with what 17va said, and I agree with what Fullerene was saying in his post. I usually say that speeds above 1x should only be used for very short effects, the same way 17va said. However, this map is an example of the rare case of someone actually using high speed SVs well, so even if they should only be used in rare cases, this is one of those rare cases where they are fine.

Ok. Sorry for misunderstanding.

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

Bobbias wrote:

No, I meant that I actually usually agree with what 17va said, and I agree with what Fullerene was saying in his post. I usually say that speeds above 1x should only be used for very short effects, the same way 17va said. However, this map is an example of the rare case of someone actually using high speed SVs well, so even if they should only be used in rare cases, this is one of those rare cases where they are fine.

Ok. Sorry for misunderstanding.

I reread what I said and noticed it might be easy to misunderstand, so I figured I should try to be as clear as possible this time around.

Hello everybody!
Formally, the disqualification was a bit unnecessay for the listed reasons, yet I'd like to arise a few things that concern me a lot. Attention was brought to me for this mapset because of this rather doubtful disqualification, yet, apart of why it actually got disqualfiied, I have serious concerns about certain things in this mapset:

Count in 1|2|3|4|5|6|7

[Extraordinary]

00:20:841 (20841|6,20841|3,20920|5,20920|1,20999|6,20999|4,21078|5,21078|2) - This is basically mapped to nothing. I really tried to figure out where this is coming from. Especially because 00:20:920 (20920|1,20920|5,20999|4,20999|6,21078|2,21078|5) - are having soft hitsounds, its proving the point that this notes were made super silent, so this overmapping does not disrupt the song itself.
On this other side 00:23:368 (23368|0,23368|1,23447|2,23447|3,23525|1,23604|3,23604|0,23683|1,23683|2) - is working fine with the background noise supporting it. Unfortunately, this background noise is not given on the first spot. Try to be more careful!
00:25:736 (25736|6,25736|5,25815|3,25815|4) - this is a bit unnecessarily tricky, I guess. Especially 00:25:736 (25736|6) - . Listening closely, the 1/4 is not beginning here, but a bit later. (Actually here: 00:25:894 (25894|2) -)
00:28:420 (28420|6,28420|4,28499|5,28499|3,28578|4,28578|2,28657|6,28657|5,28736|4) - this again is overdone like at the first point.
00:48:236 (48236|5) - I would put that on the 6th column. Just a suggestion. Putting this on the 4th is impractical for lefties, which use the left thumb on space. Putting it on 6th may play this 1/4 with left hand, right hand and left hand for everyone.
01:00:157 (60157|6) - Why does this end earlier?
01:01:578 (61578|3) - this early ending is confusing me, because the previous 4-holds are following the vocals and this one suddenly stops in the middle of the stanza. I'd lengthen it and adjust it to the actual vocal length.
01:02:051 (62051|6) - again no idea why this ends earlier than the others.
01:05:682 (65682|2,65682|5,65761|3,65761|0,65840|4,65840|1,65919|3,65919|5) - there are no 1/4 in the music
01:08:208 (68208|3,68208|1,68208|6,68287|2,68287|4,68366|5,68366|6,68445|2,68445|3) - ^
01:10:735 (70735|5,70735|1,70735|3,70735|0,70814|4,70814|2,70893|5,70893|0,70972|3,70972|1) - ^
(and so on...)

02:00:786 (120786|0,120786|6,120865|1,120865|5,120944|2,120944|0,120944|6,120944|4) - I think this SV change can be made more smooth. It's a bit too stuttery here. The previous ones were working perfectly, but this one has a rather iffy transistion compared to the others. Try to make the speedup/slowdown more smooth, so it's not too sudden and a bit more predictable on the first attempt of playing this beatmap.

02:30:469 (150469|0,150469|3,150548|6,150548|4,150627|2,150627|0,150627|3) - whereas you put 1/4 stuff in the kiai time where are no 1/4, you are leaving out the 1/4 here entirely. Try to add stuff here, I'd recommend it.

03:03:468 (183468|6,183468|0,183468|4,183468|3,183468|2) - I believe that this can even be more drastic, but this is just a suggestion!

03:18:310 (198310|2,198310|6,198310|4) - slow the section down more severely, speed up till 03:18:625 (198625|0,198625|5,198625|3) - and then let it run with your planned SV. I think this SV change is not noticeable enough. I think a more noticeable speedchange would benefit this effect.


----

So let me summarize: The spread seems fine, but some stuff on the Extraordinary diff makes me worry. I'd recommend, to get this ranked and improved:

1. Revise your note placement. Some stuff is overmapped, whereas you leave out offering sound samples on other spots, which you did not map, even if they could
2. Revise some SV changes. Whereas most of them are really good (and the usage of slowdowns and speedups for a bigger section seem to fit here quite well), especially the short effect speedups and slowdowns to simulate a "sudden dropdown" are not as good as they could be. If you need help with that, try to look on some Lieselotte maps or ask me for help. I can try to adjust the speed changes for you, if you don't mind.
3. Some holds are behaving oddly. They are not ending or beginning where they actually should begin and end. Try to look into that, too!
4. Avoid making stuff more tricky than needed. Keep in mind, how hands are used. Keep in mind, the middle column (4th) is used by left and right hand, theoretically, since there are people either playing this one with the left or with the right hand thumb (if standard key layout is given). Try to keep in mind, how this plays for different setups. This isn't a specific issue in this mapset itself, but the one or another pattern can be improved and be made more fluent without breaking the entire map.

The disqualification itself was unjustified. I actually planned to requalify this instantly to revoke this decision, but I saw that the Extraordinary diff may need a few more adjustments. I also did not check the other difficulties indepth, yet they seemed fine during testplaying on first glance.
I am all up for requalifying this, whenever someone from the BAT felt like rebubbling this. Make sure to keep my addressed issues in mind.

Keep in mind I am a busy person, but I'd like to get this back. Just bother me in-game and I try to do my best to help you out here.

Also taking the opportunity to share this. It might be useful for your future SV ventures.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3740759/svc.html

Mod before opinion plz
That mod helps mapper improve
Only opinion only drama

Why you guys like to make drama ? It is enough.

Spy wrote:

Why you guys like to make drama ? It is enough.

Lock this thread

Drama is already over, let Reika apply changes and get this back on the board
Good luck with getting it back btw

Loctav wrote:

Hello everybody!
Formally, the disqualification was a bit unnecessay for the listed reasons, yet I'd like to arise a few things that concern me a lot. Attention was brought to me for this mapset because of this rather doubtful disqualification, yet, apart of why it actually got disqualfiied, I have serious concerns about certain things in this mapset:

Count in 1|2|3|4|5|6|7

[Extraordinary]

00:20:841 (20841|6,20841|3,20920|5,20920|1,20999|6,20999|4,21078|5,21078|2) - This is basically mapped to nothing. I really tried to figure out where this is coming from. Especially because 00:20:920 (20920|1,20920|5,20999|4,20999|6,21078|2,21078|5) - are having soft hitsounds, its proving the point that this notes were made super silent, so this overmapping does not disrupt the song itself.
On this other side 00:23:368 (23368|0,23368|1,23447|2,23447|3,23525|1,23604|3,23604|0,23683|1,23683|2) - is working fine with the background noise supporting it. Unfortunately, this background noise is not given on the first spot. Try to be more careful! fixed
00:25:736 (25736|6,25736|5,25815|3,25815|4) - this is a bit unnecessarily tricky, I guess. Especially 00:25:736 (25736|6) - . Listening closely, the 1/4 is not beginning here, but a bit later. (Actually here: 00:25:894 (25894|2) -) fixed
00:28:420 (28420|6,28420|4,28499|5,28499|3,28578|4,28578|2,28657|6,28657|5,28736|4) - this again is overdone like at the first point. fixed
00:48:236 (48236|5) - I would put that on the 6th column. Just a suggestion. Putting this on the 4th is impractical for lefties, which use the left thumb on space. Putting it on 6th may play this 1/4 with left hand, right hand and left hand for everyone. it doesn't really needed because its only single note
01:00:157 (60157|6) - Why does this end earlier? Actually, its the synth hat. same with 00:53:367 (53367|3) - or 01:18:787 (78787|5) - but somehow its weird so i removed it.
01:01:578 (61578|3) - this early ending is confusing me, because the previous 4-holds are following the vocals and this one suddenly stops in the middle of the stanza. I'd lengthen it and adjust it to the actual vocal length. same with previous
01:02:051 (62051|6) - again no idea why this ends earlier than the others.
01:05:682 (65682|2,65682|5,65761|3,65761|0,65840|4,65840|1,65919|3,65919|5) - there are no 1/4 in the music fixed
01:08:208 (68208|3,68208|1,68208|6,68287|2,68287|4,68366|5,68366|6,68445|2,68445|3) - fixed
01:10:735 (70735|5,70735|1,70735|3,70735|0,70814|4,70814|2,70893|5,70893|0,70972|3,70972|1) - ^ there's 1/4 hard guitar beat here
(and so on...)

02:00:786 (120786|0,120786|6,120865|1,120865|5,120944|2,120944|0,120944|6,120944|4) - I think this SV change can be made more smooth. It's a bit too stuttery here. The previous ones were working perfectly, but this one has a rather iffy transistion compared to the others. Try to make the speedup/slowdown more smooth, so it's not too sudden and a bit more predictable on the first attempt of playing this beatmap. i removed it, slowing or smoothing wouldn't get better.

02:30:469 (150469|0,150469|3,150548|6,150548|4,150627|2,150627|0,150627|3) - whereas you put 1/4 stuff in the kiai time where are no 1/4, you are leaving out the 1/4 here entirely. Try to add stuff here, I'd recommend it. im really sure it has 1/4 kick roll

03:03:468 (183468|6,183468|0,183468|4,183468|3,183468|2) - I believe that this can even be more drastic, but this is just a suggestion! do you want me to make this sudden fast or sudden appears ?

03:18:310 (198310|2,198310|6,198310|4) - slow the section down more severely, speed up till 03:18:625 (198625|0,198625|5,198625|3) - and then let it run with your planned SV. I think this SV change is not noticeable enough. I think a more noticeable speedchange would benefit this effect. let's try with reducing by 0.1x


----

So let me summarize: The spread seems fine, but some stuff on the Extraordinary diff makes me worry. I'd recommend, to get this ranked and improved:

1. Revise your note placement. Some stuff is overmapped, whereas you leave out offering sound samples on other spots, which you did not map, even if they could
2. Revise some SV changes. Whereas most of them are really good (and the usage of slowdowns and speedups for a bigger section seem to fit here quite well), especially the short effect speedups and slowdowns to simulate a "sudden dropdown" are not as good as they could be. If you need help with that, try to look on some Lieselotte maps or ask me for help. I can try to adjust the speed changes for you, if you don't mind.
3. Some holds are behaving oddly. They are not ending or beginning where they actually should begin and end. Try to look into that, too!
4. Avoid making stuff more tricky than needed. Keep in mind, how hands are used. Keep in mind, the middle column (4th) is used by left and right hand, theoretically, since there are people either playing this one with the left or with the right hand thumb (if standard key layout is given). Try to keep in mind, how this plays for different setups. This isn't a specific issue in this mapset itself, but the one or another pattern can be improved and be made more fluent without breaking the entire map.

The disqualification itself was unjustified. I actually planned to requalify this instantly to revoke this decision, but I saw that the Extraordinary diff may need a few more adjustments. I also did not check the other difficulties indepth, yet they seemed fine during testplaying on first glance.
I am all up for requalifying this, whenever someone from the BAT felt like rebubbling this. Make sure to keep my addressed issues in mind.

Keep in mind I am a busy person, but I'd like to get this back. Just bother me in-game and I try to do my best to help you out here.

thank you so much loctav for your detailed moderation

semangat saka >v<)9

Loctav where are you

Edit : Updated and ready

will going to graved again , if none of BAT/QAT take a look of this.

You have to actively look for mods from the BATs from yourself. The QAT won't act here

Just a little few more things. Sorry for the delay but my internet is a bit refusive to work lately.

[Metadata]

Add "ゆいこ" and "ゆいこんぬ" to the tags.

[Extraordinary]

02:53:994 (173994|0,173994|1) - I find this "little jack" a bit misplaced, considering the calmness of this part. I would slim out this section or fix it in a way that it is no little jack anymore

This should be all and we can get this rolling after that, I hope. The SV changes look good now. Like it!

Loctav wrote:

You have to actively look for mods from the BATs from yourself. The QAT won't act here

Just a little few more things. Sorry for the delay but my internet is a bit refusive to work lately.

[Metadata]

Add "ゆいこ" and "ゆいこんぬ" to the tags. added

[Extraordinary]

02:53:994 (173994|0,173994|1) - I find this "little jack" a bit misplaced, considering the calmness of this part. I would slim out this section or fix it in a way that it is no little jack anymore i almost don't understand, it took me several minutes with this things lol, fixed

This should be all and we can get this rolling after that, I hope. The SV changes look good now. Like it!

Updated ;_;

Let's try it. Best of luck!

you seem to forgot that hard and maximum gap is more than 1.5 seems to be gapped too far , loctav
i probably need to get myself involved in this. ill be modding in shortly
overall the structure pattern is really messed , to be honest.
i do think this still needs to go for further modding .. the pattern arent really satisfying for me.

edit : popped
ill be doing as soon as i finish dinner

apart from my very own testplay , the gap between hard and maximum is way far.

[Skalim's Maximum]
00:16:894 (16894|3) - lower this specific hold volume to 15% or lower , it doesnt fit cuz its too loud for the uprising sound

00:31:736 (31736|3,32210|5) - i dont see why to use such double holds , if it was to emphasis the strong beat , the 2 normal notes already emphasis it . single hold would be more fitting imo , to all part , the synth doesnt get louder too.

00:33:157 (33157|1,33157|6,33236|5,33236|2) - i dont hear any synth to be mapped , add another hold like 00:33:157 (33157|0) - on 7th would be a good solution

00:34:736 (34736|2) - should be split to 1/2 hold because i heard another one at 00:34:894 -
00:36:631 (36631|2) - ^ applies the same
00:47:762 (47762|4) - no sound , delete
00:48:472 (48472|0,48630|0) - ^
00:50:367 (50367|2,50841|4) - ^
00:57:946 (57946|3,58420|4) - ^
01:04:419 (64419|0) - this hold should be 1/1 hold if it is guitar , 01:03:945 (63945|4) - shouldnt exist , also replace the hitsound to another normal note
01:04:893 (64893|2) - is the same
01:08:366 (68366|3) - also i dont know what is this LN refers to ?
01:09:472 (69472|4) - should be extend to 1/1 hold
01:11:524 (71524|2) - since this section you didnt catch any other guitar hold , better to delete this to keep it consistent
01:12:156 (72156|2) - i think there isnt any instrument here , even if catch vocal , move it to 2 , because i dont hear any repeat in 1/2 measure
01:13:419 (73419|5) - also i dont know what is this , better to delete
01:14:050 (74050|4) - the same as i said before , better to delete to keep it consistent
01:14:682 (74682|4) - move to 5 is better , no 1/2 repeat also
01:15:945 (75945|1) - same as previous
01:18:629 (78629|4,78945|4) - until 01:33:787 - this section , i just feel like mapping kick with 3 notes is a little overemphasise , better to make it to to ballance the diffspread , since you mapped 2 notes for kick in all other parts , also the main reason the star difficulty went up so high
01:36:944 (96944|5) - the hold should have start on the redline 01:37:102 -
01:33:787 - this section timing is wrong , ill find someone who is good at finding the correct snap ,after talked to serveral people its not because of the timing , its just because the artist play the piano with different timing , so it is much possibly impossible to map it correctly ,but mapping this with incorrect snap isnt a good solution . ill try to ask pishifat for the timing if he has some time to do it.

not done yet. the extraordinary is really concern me a lot of stuff. i should find a proper time to mod this.

That's what concerned me :/

ooooo never seen rumia changed his display picture.. @w@

From Skalim , im just representative for this..

[Skalim's Maximum]
00:16:894 (16894|3) - lower this specific hold volume to 15% or lower , it doesnt fit cuz its too loud for the uprising sound
MODIFIED BY 10%

00:31:736 (31736|3,32210|5) - i dont see why to use such double holds , if it was to emphasis the strong beat , the 2 normal notes already emphasis it . single hold would be more fitting imo , to all part , the synth doesnt get louder too.
DOUBLE LN FOR THE HIGH VOLUME AND THE DOUBLE SINGLE NOTE FOR THE DRUM, I TRY TO MAKE HERE A CHALLENGEABLE START FOLLOWING THE CORRESPONDENT RHYTHM
BUT FOR REDUCE THE STARS... WELL...

00:33:157 (33157|1,33157|6,33236|5,33236|2) - i dont hear any synth to be mapped , add another hold like 00:33:157 (33157|0) - on 7th would be a good solution
MODIFIED USING THE DRUM FOR NO BREAK THE PATTERN

00:34:736 (34736|2) - should be split to 1/2 hold because i heard another one at 00:34:894 -
IS A MAXIMUN DIFF, THIS MEAN I CAN EVADE SOME LOW SOUNDS
00:36:631 (36631|2) - ^ applies the same
THE SAME
00:47:762 (47762|4) - no sound , delete
OK
00:48:472 (48472|0,48630|0) - ^
LISTEN MORE CAREFULL WITH 25% RATE
00:50:367 (50367|2,50841|4) - ^
THE SAME
00:57:946 (57946|3,58420|4) - ^
THE SAME
01:04:419 (64419|0) - this hold should be 1/1 hold if it is guitar , 01:03:945 (63945|4) - shouldnt exist , also replace the hitsound to another normal note
WAT, 25% RATE - THIS IS A HOLD VOICE, I USED THAT IN A LOT OF PATTERNS FOR CREATE VARIETY
01:04:893 (64893|2) - is the same
THE SAME
01:08:366 (68366|3) - also i dont know what is this LN refers to ?
ELEVATED GUITAR, BUT I CAN DELETE IT
01:09:472 (69472|4) - should be extend to 1/1 hold
THE SAME OF BEFORE
01:11:524 (71524|2) - since this section you didnt catch any other guitar hold , better to delete this to keep it consistent
01:12:156 (72156|2) - i think there isnt any instrument here , even if catch vocal , move it to 2 , because i dont hear any repeat in 1/2 measure
01:13:419 (73419|5) - also i dont know what is this , better to delete
01:14:050 (74050|4) - the same as i said before , better to delete to keep it consistent
01:14:682 (74682|4) - move to 5 is better , no 1/2 repeat also
01:15:945 (75945|1) - same as previous
01:18:629 (78629|4,78945|4) - until 01:33:787 - this section , i just feel like mapping kick with 3 notes is a little overemphasise , better to make it to to ballance the diffspread , since you mapped 2 notes for kick in all other parts , also the main reason the star difficulty went up so high
01:36:944 (96944|5) - the hold should have start on the redline 01:37:102 -
01:33:787 - this section timing is wrong , ill find someone who is good at finding the correct snap ,after talked to serveral people its not because of the timing , its just because the artist play the piano with different timing , so it is much possibly impossible to map it correctly ,but mapping this with incorrect snap isnt a good solution . ill try to ask pishifat for the timing if he has some time to do it.
WAT
not done yet. the extraordinary is really concern me a lot of stuff. i should find a proper time to mod this.


I really apreciate your mod rumia, but sincerelly... what are you hearing in this music u_u? i listen thinks that dont you listened in the moment of mod. Sorry if
my diff no satisfied your expectations, but you know i am so bad in jpop songs. Maybe you donｴt like this diff, but maybe other players like this... iｴll try to reduce the
stars, but this will be hard...

youre not listening to me . im just giving another solution to deal on the spread gap . if youre just going to deny everything i might have to ask you add another diff in between hard and insane to solve it . as for the 25% part
i do hear it too low but yknow it acts more like a ghost note if to be mapped. whats the point of modding everything in 100% volume if i were to check error ?
anyway i need to confirm again tge timig with some BATs ( probsbly pishifat since most bat recommend me to find him ) before i continue

Rumia- wrote:

youre not listening to me . im just giving another solution to deal on the spread gap . if youre just going to deny everything i might have to ask you add another diff in between hard and insane to solve it . as for the 25% part
i do hear it too low but yknow it acts more like a ghost note if to be mapped. whats the point of modding everything in 100% volume if i were to check error ?
anyway i need to confirm again tge timig with some BATs ( probsbly pishifat since most bat recommend me to find him ) before i continue

this is me Reikosaka, i'm agree the difficult gap are too far (well i told that skalim last time). but Rumia- , Skalim doesn't deny your mod after all, there's just few part he deny.. he already reduced the stars rating a.k.a the density of notes.
All note were placed according the song.

[Skalim]

i don't deny your mod, i appreciated your mod. im not intention to being rude to you, im sorry

anyway im going to do a full mod .. i hope i can bring this mapset to a better place . well after the timing is confirmed ill be focusing on helping this mapset back

asked by rei

column 1234567
[Skalim's Maximum]

1. 00:16:894 (16894|3) - start from 00:16:104 ?
   i know what this LN follows, but starts from this point is more comfortable to play to me
2. 00:18:789 (18789|3) - remove?
   or
   00:19:262 (19262|0) - add a note?
   00:19:736 (19736|3) - ^
3. 00:21:315 (21315|3) - from this point, same ^
4. 00:23:841 (23841|5) -
5. 00:26:368 (26368|4) - ^
6. 00:28:894 (28894|4) - ^
7. 00:31:420 (31420|4) - ^
8. 01:00:472 - add a note on 4?
9. 01:01:736 - i think you can add notes to follow kicks on 4 from here just like previous pattern.
10. 01:34:734 (94734|0,95365|1,96313|6,97102|5) - I think you can remove these LNs
    so that pattern can represent how music is calm here. what these LNs are following btw?
11. 01:38:958 (98958|3) - use 1/12 divisor and move up by one? I believe this point is right timing.
12. 01:39:681 - add a note on 4 by using 1/6 divisor? A note is needed here if grace notes are following piano.
13. 01:39:747 (99747|4) - use 1/12 divisor and move up by one?
14. 02:13:101 - same, add a note to follow kick?
    

thats it GL

Reikosaka asked me to check Skalim's diff. I'm going to quote rumia's partial mod a few times here (I hope this doesn't make anyone mad)

Rumia- wrote:

00:33:157 (33157|1,33157|6,33236|5,33236|2) - i dont hear any synth to be mapped , add another hold like 00:33:157 (33157|0) - on 7th would be a good solution

I checked this, there is no synth sound at 00:33:157 - it starts at 00:33:315 - so these: 00:33:157 (33157|6,33236|5) - should change to a hold on 7th, like rumia suggested.

Rumia- wrote:

00:34:736 (34736|2) - should be split to 1/2 hold because i heard another one at 00:34:894 -
00:36:631 (36631|2) - ^ applies the same

I also agree with this. Maximum diff should be more accurate to music, not less. This would be ok to do in easier diffs, but I think there's no reason to keep these as single LNs.

Rumia- wrote:

00:48:472 (48472|0,48630|0) - ^
00:50:367 (50367|2,50841|4) - ^
00:57:946 (57946|3,58420|4) - ^

There is sound here, no need to delete.

01:39:668 - missed piano note

Right now Skalim's maximum is 1.2 stars harder than the Hard, and 1.17 stars easier than Extraordinary. This is actually very balanced between them not that star rating is good enough to use for this yet.

I honestly, can't find anything else -.-

I tried to find the timing points for the pianos o.o
Maybe I completely failed but just going to post here for people to test

lmao sakura

Rumia- wrote:

ill try to ask pishifat for the timing if he has some time to do it.

Rumia- wrote:

probsbly pishifat since most bat recommend me to find him

Rumia- wrote:

hey uhm.. i really need help on this song timing ( since every bat i talked to ask me to find you )

whoever is telling you this stuff needs to stop breathing

regarding the piano thing:
so i ran your song through a postsynthesizing modulation program to adjust the shift of the paralax frequencies causing a antiquary-digitational power outage throughout the northern hemisphere for 28 seconds and the result was an mp3 with piano synced to percussion. just replace your current mp3 file with this one and you'll be good to go (offset is the same). if anything sounds screwed up, tell me and i'll be sure to retrograde the southern hemisphere too

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

I tried to find the timing points for the pianos o.o
Maybe I completely failed but just going to post here for people to test

SPOILER

[TimingPoints]
947,315.789473684211,4,2,0,20,1,0
33789,315.789473684211,3,2,0,20,1,0
41052,315.789473684211,3,2,0,20,1,0
48315,315.789473684211,3,2,0,20,1,0
63472,315.789473684211,4,2,0,20,1,0
93787,315.789473684211,5,2,0,20,1,0
94444,315.789473684211,5,2,0,20,1,0
98759,421.052631578947,5,2,0,20,1,0
99180,352.941176470588,5,2,0,20,1,0
99497,521.739130434783,5,2,0,20,1,0
100149,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
101049,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
101699,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
102649,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
103287,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
104237,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
104887,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
105837,400,5,2,0,20,1,0
109137,400,3,2,0,20,1,0
109637,300,3,2,0,20,1,0
110260,521.739130434783,3,2,0,20,1,0
110520,521.739130434783,3,2,0,20,1,0
110780,480,3,2,0,20,1,0
113900,307.692307692308,3,2,0,20,1,0
115438,480,3,2,0,20,1,0

that's why Meis Clauson is badass to me kick yuikonnu

thanks for timing check, will try after Skalim do his mod

lol fail

@Reikosaka check pishifat's post

Forget about my stupid timings, use the new mp3

pishifat too pro I don't even understand the last paragraph, some high-tech program that seems to work out

Edit: the new mp3 worked well

pishifat wrote:

whoever is telling you needs to stop

/me runs

pishifat wrote:

so i ran your song through a postsynthesizing modulation program to adjust the shift of the paralax frequencies causing a antiquary-digitational power outage throughout the northern hemisphere for 28 seconds and the result was an mp3 with piano synced to percussion.

yo that was a hell of a process ooo.thanks pishifat , ill be back on this track when im back from class , pls send me pm if you updated the mp3 files .

pishifat is a magician IRL

no one can make me believe else

everyone has the ability to do what he does if you watch his tutorial and learn how
seriously go watch it, its the best tutorial i've ever seen

good luck with requaification, let me know if you need any help o/

Here we go, Reply from Skalim ( im dying -_- )


Dosyeru's mod

[Skalim's Maximum]
00:16:894 (16894|3)- start from 00:16:104? This is a sudden sound, no the voice.

i know what this LN follows, but starts from this point is more comfortable to play to me

00:18:789 (18789|3)- remove? Why? this connect the pattern of above, and i can hear sound here
or
00:19:262 (19262|0)- add a note? No thanks, i no hear sound here, and if i add notes, the Star Rate will fly
00:19:736 (19736|3)- ^ ^

00:21:315 (21315|3)- from this point, same ^ ^
00:23:841 (23841|5)- ^ ^
00:26:368 (26368|4)- ^ ^
00:28:894 (28894|4)- ^ ^
00:31:420 (31420|4)- ^ ^
01:00:472- add a note on 4? Ok
01:01:736- i think you can add notes to follow kicks on 4 from here just like previous pattern. I am just following the guitar and drum here
01:34:734 (94734|0,95365|1,96313|6,97102|5)- I think you can remove these LNs so that pattern can represent how music is calm here. what these LNs are following btw? The internal sound behind of the drums
01:38:958 (98958|3)- use 1/12 divisor and move up by one? I believe this point is right timing. Lmao ok
01:39:681- add a note on 4 by using 1/6 divisor? A note is needed here if grace notes are following piano. Added in 01:39:708 and modified the snap here
01:39:747 (99747|4)- use 1/12 divisor and move up by one? yea, that XD
02:13:101- same, add a note to follow kick? Ok

thats it GL

-------------------------------

Bobbias mod


[Skalim's Maximum]

Rumia- wrote:
00:33:157 (33157|1,33157|6,33236|5,33236|2) - i dont hear any synth to be mapped , add another hold like 00:33:157 (33157|0) - on 7th would be a good solution

I checked this, there is no synth sound at 00:33:157 - it starts at 00:33:315 - so these: 00:33:157 (33157|6,33236|5) - should change to a hold on 7th, like rumia suggested. u_u i think you are right, sorry rumia :/

Rumia- wrote:
00:34:736 (34736|2) - should be split to 1/2 hold because i heard another one at 00:34:894 -
00:36:631 (36631|2) - ^ applies the same


I also agree with this. Maximum diff should be more accurate to music, not less. This would be ok to do in easier diffs, but I think there's no reason to keep these as single LNs. i just hear that in 00:34:736, but i try and try and i can´t hear in the other timming...

Rumia- wrote:
00:48:472 (48472|0,48630|0) - ^
00:50:367 (50367|2,50841|4) - ^
00:57:946 (57946|3,58420|4) - ^


There is sound here, no need to delete.

01:39:668 - missed piano note Modified, but this go in xx-xxx-708 i think

Right now Skalim's maximum is 1.2 stars harder than the Hard, and 1.17 stars easier than Extraordinary. This is actually very balanced between them not that star rating is good enough to use for this yet.

I honestly, can't find anything else -.-
Strong mod, but well, all for the rank i think.

For edited audio, please explain me in simple word and detailed which part/sound do you change ?

i don't know for the detail, somehow the end of song the main synth run more fast than before.

edit: this post was never meant to exist
good song good map, waiting for rank

Rumia- wrote:

pls send me pm if you updated the mp3 files .

i think we need to remember something, do you remember your last word to me in osu! .