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咲 -Saki- Mafia (GAME OVER)

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Raging Bull

Rantai wrote:

Um, you might want to read that again as to why they are silly, there's a line of explanation if you have the functionality to understand it (to sum it up: they basically take an action or post which usually indicates nothing and try to make a read off it). Let's go as far as this example of "RPing is a scumtell!" - anyone of any alignment can RP during an RVS and it's absolutely grabbing at straws if you think you can draw meaningful conclusions from it.

Let's make another example: I'm a terrorist and I like to dance - those kids over there like to dance too, therefore those kids are terrorists. Meaningful.

In the end though I'm assuming you actually agree with those types of plays so I think I'm wasting my breath here. I wonder if you actually believe I am scum or simply just don't like my opinion on the matter. I'll give you that the obtuse writing (RP stuff) is annoying as hell for both parties, but if you're basing a scum read off that, damn. If only every mafia were so obvious (bracing for the claws on that statement but I had to say it).

I think I've basically said all I've wanted on this topic.

@RB - There's a first time for everything. I'd call it less weird here as more I'm simply not holding back my opinion now (not sure if it got through but one of my rp posts basically said I've been bottling it up over several games). If that paints a giant target on my back then so be it.

forgot to unspoiler it.
Sakura
^
lol
Amianki
Rantai:

CalignoBot wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Apparently a little RP is a scumread.
This is a pretty solid hint as to why.
If this is where you got the RPing thing from, then know that I was talking less about the actual words and more about the intent behind it.
Rantai
Then you made that extremely ambiguous. What intent anyway?
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 1.5

Rantai (3) - DakeDekaane, Quotes, CalignoBot
Royston (3) - Sakura, Nyquill, Jinxy
OnosakiHito (1) - Raging Bull
Jinxy (1) - Irreversible
Quotes (1) - Royston
Irrreversible (1) - OnosakiHito

Not voting - Rantai, Royston

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 44:59.
NoHitter
Alright, let's try this. There are pretty much two main wagons as of now: Rantai's and Royston's.
I don't think Rantai's actions are indicative to scum. I feel his frustration is genuine, though a bit overdone. Null tell for Rantai.

Royston's actions, i.e. voting for Quotes was fine, but there's something about his excuse which bothers me. He said that he voted Quotes as a joke, implying he knew he was confirmed town, but said later that he was "misreading" it into Rantai - saying he thought Rantai was confirmed town. Which makes his earlier justification of voting Quotes a contradiction.

Vote: Royston

And for all of you still RVS voting, please stop already. We're out of RVS.
Amianki

Rantai wrote:

Then you made that extremely ambiguous. What intent anyway?
Yeah, thought I made that clear earlier but apparently I didn't.

The initial post about my vote on you not being random was true, but I was hoping you'd do something that was easy to read. Instead of trying to figure out what I was seeing, you immediately knee jerked and assumed my reason, then tried to discredit it. Then when further pressured, you didn't really do much of anything but try to discredit it further.
Royston
Huh? You realise I misred RB's post earlier and thought he asked why Quotes was confirmed town. I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about Rantai being town
NoHitter
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Nevermind. I thought you meant you misread the mod's confirmation, not RB's question.

Will reread in a bit.
Rantai
Which post did you try to clear it up?

Feels like to let it just run for whatever reason instead of clarifying (well, depends on where you tried to clear it up obviously).
Jinxy
Honestly, I think I'm going to ask for Replacement. I'm just not feeling the drive to actually play and finely comb though a mafia game right now. Rather pass this slot to someone else than be a liability to town.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
searching for replacement for Jinxy

Votecount 1.6

Rantai (3) - DakeDekaane, Quotes, CalignoBot
Royston (3) - Sakura, Nyquill, Jinxy
OnosakiHito (1) - Raging Bull
Jinxy (1) - Irreversible
Quotes (1) - Royston
Irrreversible (1) - OnosakiHito

Not voting - NoHItter, Rantai

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 35:54.
Quotes_old
Unvote
Vote: NoHitter


I like this more.
OnosakiHito
NoHitter is pretty calm for what is going on here.
Though, he has experience.
DakeDekaane
Unvote
Vote: CalignoBot


Quotes, why NH?
Quotes_old

NoHitter wrote:

This game feels really inactive... (I mean some people haven't even posted after confirmation)

Not sure what to think of the reasoning of Caligno's vote. Seems like it was a bit straw-graspy.
Also Rantai's reaction seems pretty defensive for an early game vote.

Unvote
RVS is over.
Adds nothing, straw-graspy. Does nothing to help town.

NoHitter wrote:

Alright, let's try this. There are pretty much two main wagons as of now: Rantai's and Royston's.
I don't think Rantai's actions are indicative to scum. I feel his frustration is genuine, though a bit overdone. Null tell for Rantai.

Royston's actions, i.e. voting for Quotes was fine, but there's something about his excuse which bothers me. He said that he voted Quotes as a joke, implying he knew he was confirmed town, but said later that he was "misreading" it into Rantai - saying he thought Rantai was confirmed town. Which makes his earlier justification of voting Quotes a contradiction.

Vote: Royston

And for all of you still RVS voting, please stop already. We're out of RVS.
Comes after his post asking dake why he was voting for rantai instead of royston without putting his vote where his mouth is.

Immediately unvotes Royston after a quick explanation on why he voted why he did.
Raging Bull
unvote


One can say the same about you, but you are confirmed :o

Maybe the convincing worked little too well for NH but I really think he didn't notice it well. I mean hell I misread a few times on this thread already.


Also

Irreversible wrote:

I'll try to catch things up, my post will come in a few hours for sure, sorry for inactiity
NoHitter

Quotes wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

This game feels really inactive... (I mean some people haven't even posted after confirmation)

Not sure what to think of the reasoning of Caligno's vote. Seems like it was a bit straw-graspy.
Also Rantai's reaction seems pretty defensive for an early game vote.

Unvote
RVS is over.
Adds nothing, straw-graspy. Does nothing to help town.
It's called saying your thoughts. How is giving your opinion not helping town?
And how was it straw-graspy?

Quotes wrote:

NoHitter wrote:

Alright, let's try this. There are pretty much two main wagons as of now: Rantai's and Royston's.
I don't think Rantai's actions are indicative to scum. I feel his frustration is genuine, though a bit overdone. Null tell for Rantai.

Royston's actions, i.e. voting for Quotes was fine, but there's something about his excuse which bothers me. He said that he voted Quotes as a joke, implying he knew he was confirmed town, but said later that he was "misreading" it into Rantai - saying he thought Rantai was confirmed town. Which makes his earlier justification of voting Quotes a contradiction.

Vote: Royston

And for all of you still RVS voting, please stop already. We're out of RVS.
Comes after his post asking dake why he was voting for rantai instead of royston without putting his vote where his mouth is.

Immediately unvotes Royston after a quick explanation on why he voted why he did.
Dake's explanation seemed genuine to me, so I didn't pursue him further along that line, and I did explain why I voted Royston (albeit I failed at reading at that point)
I voted Royston on something that I misread. Or do you consider not unvoting better play?
Rantai

Rantai wrote:

Not much time to read stuff atm, will be back tomorrow after my final tut.
OnosakiHito
Unvote

RVS is already over.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
still searching for replacement for Jinxy. deadline extended by 24 hours to accommodate this

Votecount 1.7

Royston (3) - Sakura, Nyquill, Jinxy
Rantai (1) - CalignoBot
Jinxy (1) - Irreversible
Quotes (1) - Royston
NoHItter (1) - Quotes
CalignoBot (1) - DakeDekaane

Not voting - NoHItter, OnosakiHito, Raging Bull, Rantai

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 38:03.
Raging Bull

OnosakiHito wrote:

Unvote

RVS is already over.
RVS has been over for a while. Don't know why you would state the obvious.


I have a feeling NH is town. Like I said, I misread stuff and though Rantai was confirmed town and Royston was confused by it. Then NH just happened to question Royston who happened to confused himself!
Quotes_old
eh maybe

unvote

will do some work on this game later tonight
Royston
I must say I'm really loving how of the three people voting for me, one is V/LA (Nyquill), another is looking for a replacement(Jinxy), and the other hasn't explained at all why they're voting for me (Sakura). Real classy guys.
Rantai
Ok more or less back.

I'm a little too lazy to make an iso but has Onosaki said anything substantial yet? I keep seeing the orange name but cannot ever recall what he says. Guess this is my round about way of saying I smell some possible low flying that piqued my interest.

@Royston - seems like another Sakura-reaction-test
Sakura

Rantai wrote:

@Royston - seems like another Sakura-reaction-test
It's not a reaction test this time, I have suspicions of him.
Amianki
Unvote: Rantai
Vote: Raging Bull
Amianki
Free cookie to anyone who can guess what the problem with his ISO is.
Quotes_old
My bad got caught up in studying. Will be able to place a vote but probably can't do much more than that since I have a paper due tomorrow qq

I'm ok with a RagingBull lynch and I don't like NoHitter's response to my vote; it's factually correct in a scummy way. I dont like the Royston vote and i can kind of get on board for the Rantai one but not that much.

I'd prefer to vote for one of the first two and maybe Rantai or Onowhatever.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 1.8

Royston (3) - Sakura, Nyquill, Jinxy
Jinxy (1) - Irreversible
Quotes (1) - Royston
CalignoBot (1) - DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (1) - CalignoBot

Not voting - NoHItter, OnosakiHito, Raging Bull, Rantai, Quotes

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 6:20.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Kytoxid replaces Jinxy. thanks <3

deadline extended by 24 hrs. current deadline is in 29:53.
DakeDekaane
I bet there's scum in Royston wagon if he's town.

inb4 omg that's so obvious
Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

I bet there's scum in Royston wagon if he's town.

inb4 omg that's so obvious
So your doubting Royston's towniness yet you think there's scum on his wagon?, if you're doubting royston's towniness and he's town it's more likely that scum is standing by watching town mislynch on their own.
DakeDekaane
Indeed I'm doubting Royston's towniness, I don't have the feeling of he being likely town, null so far.

I'd want to read what everybody think about him.
Raging Bull
Wow i forgot im inthis game. Give me time after work
Rantai
Well the only 2 majr things I saw from Royston was a misread and a joke rvs vote on a confirmed town (I already gave my opinion on that matter).

Unless I missed something else I don't really think I see him as either or at the moment.
Rantai
major*
Kytoxid
Hey all. Reading the thread, here's what I got. Lemme know if I misunderstood/missed anything.

- Page 3: Quotes is mod-confirmed town. (and a rather unremarkable Saki character)
- Page 4: Rantai gets wagoned early. Not sure why.
- Page 5: Royston votes Quotes, gets some flak for voting confirmed town. Probably just an honest mistake, not sure why anyone would do that otherwise.

Rantai wrote:

Actually just to spite you I'm just going to try rp for as long as I can keep it up.
- This bugged me, I can't see this benefiting the town at all?
- Page 6-7: And then he starts posting stuff actually in RP. Bah, I can't understand it at all.

Irreversible wrote:

I'll try to catch things up, my post will come in a few hours for sure, sorry for inactiity
- Page 9: Rantai starts to form a bit more coherent arguments, albeit under spoiler tags. A bunch of meta arguments I don't get since I haven't played Mafia with you guys. Irreversible also shows up for a sec, but his promised post doesn't. Sakura is around but seems content to watch the CB-vs-Rantai dance.
- Page 10-12: Suddenly no one is voting Rantai anymore. No real progress happens.

Honestly, the gut feel I get is that we've spent most of our time watching two townies rip into each other, and now no one has any idea what to do, and we've spent 3 pages slowly running in circles. We need a direction to go.

I want to see what Ono and Irreversible are up to. Irreversible is the "more inactive" one, so Mod: Can we prod Irreversible?.

Ono has been around though, just not posting anything helpful: http://puu.sh/4Wdip.png.

Unvote
Vote: OnosakiHito

Ono, I know you're new here like me, but I feel like we need voices, opinions, and analysis as much as we need to put pressure on people. Right now there really isn't anything happening to shape the town's opinion, and you can see that reflected in the vote count, and how everyone is just randomly running around. If you could lynch anyone based on the posts so far, who would you lynch and why?

CalignoBot wrote:

Free cookie to anyone who can guess what the problem with his ISO is.
If you see something, please let us know what it is. Also, noob question: What's ISO?
Amianki

Kytoxid wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Free cookie to anyone who can guess what the problem with his ISO is.
If you see something, please let us know what it is. Also, noob question: What's ISO?
ISO = Isolation; literally just one person's posts in isolation

I believe people are more likely to believe my point if they find out for themselves. I'll only reveal it if no one guesses it right.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Irreversible has been prodded
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