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chaee
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Pretty fun map. Hate the song with a burning passions though. SNK maps, man.. Love that it's TV size ^^

I have nothing to pick at to be honest. Except for the whistles.. Damn whistles.

Liberty would have to be my favorite diff. The curvy sliders are a huge turn off for me anyway 00:10:088

The use of hit sounds was well done.
Great map hope it gets ranked ^^
CXu
Sup.

Just taking a quick look because /lazy.
Replays

[General]
  1. Timing at the beginning feels a bit off to me. Then again my accuacy has been totally derpy these days since I barely play anymore.
  2. To be honest, this is the best JNT map I've played as of yet, lol.
  3. I'm totally fine with the whistles, but you might wanna lower the volume a bit so they don't sound thaaaaat "screeching".
[Liberty]
Yupp, I like this diff quite a lot compared to every other JNT map out there. 00:50:014 (8,9,1) - These doubles don't play that well though imo. 01:02:205 (8,9,1) - etc. It's only those where it's a 2-note stack, then a slider that throws me off. I don't know, the flow just doesn't feel as good for these as for the other note/slider jumps. Might be since the stack makes you stop, and then there's a 1/4 jump instead of a 1/2 jump like 01:02:776 (3,4) - .
01:10:014 - 01:11:538 - <-- And you should add those drum-whistles for this part as well, since the chorusthing ends at 01:11:538 - .
Also, the spaced out triple at 01:12:490 (3,4,5) - feels a bit out of place, as most other streams/triples are much closer. I guess it just doesn't fit with the overall flow I get from the map. Same with 01:25:443 (2,3,4) - , which is kinda overkill, aand will probably make people rage :P
Another thing is the transition of spacing at 00:31:443 (8,9,1,2,3) - , which feels a wee bit forced to me. I don't know, the speed of those 1/4 sliders are kind of slow, and then suddenly 1/2 sliders with 1/4-jumps :P

Overall a well-made map imo.

[Insane]
Maybe it's me, but the triples in the beginning like 00:20:092 (2,3,4) - really breaks the flow a bit for me. Maybe it's because the "ah"'s kind of fade out a bit, which to me suggests more of something flowy, rather than a static triple. Same for the triples at 01:19:538 -
Also, the spacing in this diff looks.. Well not "weird", but kind of odd I guess, since you use a lot of stuff like 00:45:633 (1,2,3) - , where you go from 1.0x to 1.5x. They play fine, and are readable; just looks odd to me while playing.

The mapping feels a bit slow compared to the overall power of the song, but it fits well in the overall diffspread with Liberty as the hardest diff, so not realy a complaint :P It's a nice map.

[Hard]
00:04:353 (8) - Aaaah this feels just a bit too close when I play.
Same about the "irregular" spacing as in [Insane], though it feels a bit more awkward here, mostly due to the AR probably.
00:32:681 (2,3) - And 00:33:443 (1,2) - doesn't play that well imo. Even Insane is kinda easier with the double at 00:33:443 (1) - . Anyhow, 3/4 is also fairly hard to read on lower AR, so yeah.
Otherwise, this is fine. Maybe AR7 to compensate a bit for the spacing, but AR6 works as well.

[Normal]
01:25:824 (1) - Only this not being symmetrical bothers me :P

[Easy]
01:25:824 (1) - Same as in Normal.

Otherwise, E/N are cool imo.


Sooo that's my "quick" look, lol. I still spent an hour on this, derp. Anyhow, as I said, I really did enjoy the Liberty diff, so good job on that one.
YunoFanatic
M4m queue

  • Easy

    00:07:882 move it to http://puu.sh/4xWbd.jpg ofc snap the next note.. i already snaped it in this pic.. it will much look neater because it has straight pattern that will go directly to the next slider
    00:09:647 can you just not stack it place it like this http://puu.sh/4xW5v.jpg by doing it this way it can continue the flow
    00:13:176 add finish in slider head
    00:27:348 just make this blanket with 00:28:871 looks better
    01:03:538 blanket
    01:25:824 ctrl + j it looks good though nevermind
  • Normal

    00:04:353 spacing
    00:04:794 this doesnt have blanket rather good flow i suggest http://puu.sh/4xWyM.jpg
    00:11:853 make this a blanket the flow is unbalanced
    00:13:980 why this part isnt map? in easy it was map..i think the music here is much interesting i suggest you map it
    01:00:871 make this straight plz
    01:25:824 ro tate 90 anticlockwise or ctrl < so it can be different with easy
  • Hard

    00:03:764 i feel this slider isnt perfect hmm strech it to 00:03:985 use 1/6 divisor
    00:07:294 this one to use 1/6 and stretch to 00:07:514 i think it will sound amazing and more fitting
    00:07:882 ctrl j this note and make a blanket between 00:08:323 (1)
    00:41:252 (1) delete nc 00:42:205 (5) - add nc
    00:45:252 spacing you dont need much jumps here
    00:54:776 add finish head
  • Insane
    Only the triples in the start bothers me..
  • Liberty
    00:50:014 can you change this on different way?
    00:52:681 i think this is only me.. i think this isnt following things.. maybe its just me.. maybe delete this note?
Xinely
from ur queue


  • Easy
    HP+1?
    00:04:794 (1,3,2) - spacing 1,26x here, better if use 1,20x as consistency
    00:13:176 (2) - unsnapped (end) ,see aimod
    00:21:238 (3) - spacing issue here (1,26x)
    00:28:871 (2) - extend to 00:29:443 - ? follow vocal btw
    00:39:538 (1) - spacing itentional 1,26x here?
    00:39:538 (1,2) - try blanket here? http://puu.sh/4y8fM.jpg
    00:42:205 (4) - spacing issue (1,27x) here
    00:43:538 (2) - ^ (1,28x)
    many spacing inconsistency (like 1,26x and 1,27x) in kiai time, well i don't want my mod only spacing issue here just tell from this is enough imo
    01:20:681 (3) - maybe just for me , 296|80 for better flow?


  • Normal
    well, same as Easy.. found many spacing issue here (1,26x 1,27x etc)
    00:04:794 (1) - spacing 1,27x issue here D:
    00:07:882 (4,1,2) - how about make triangle pattern here http://puu.sh/4y8qp.jpg ? better visual and flow imo
    00:11:412 (5) - same as 00:04:794 (1) -
    00:29:633 (3) - stacked here maybe make newbie confuse, so try 284,148?
    00:34:967 (4) - 1 grid up to avoid spacing issue (1,27x)
    00:54:395 (4) - at least unstacked this circle, this is make so confuse for newbie


  • Hard
    AR+1?
    00:29:633 (2) - 340,348 for flow?
    00:33:252 (3) - well just opinion here, delete and make repeat slider in 00:32:681 (2) - ? just sound better for me
    00:47:538 (2) - 180,204? just have better flow and more hard jump
    00:52:871 (3,2) - overlap here, try (2) stacked with (3)'s head? it's more neat imo
    01:01:252 (2) - here too, stacked with 01:00:490 (4) - ? more neat and make hard jump (ofc feel more fun to play)
    01:21:633 (2) - 292,208? have better flow imo


  • Insane
    00:12:734 (2,3,4) - make them triangle pattern, visual better and more neat http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/998925
    00:24:294 (9) - 332,144 for triangle pattern? :3
    00:26:680 - add note? feel so weird if you skip this blue tick imo
    00:37:633 (4) - ctrl+G and move to 236,188? better flow to play imo
    00:52:109 (2) - better flow if you put in 128,116 imo


  • Liberty
    00:51:538 (8) - try ctrl+G to make it more challenge?
    01:12:586 (4) - opinion only. try 408,324 for better flow?

Nice map , star and Good Luck ~
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
SPOILER

YOURS wrote:

OMG! BECKY! I like the map.

Easy:

I really like how you put a little slider with a reverse at the very end. That really does fit. :)
Nothing to suggest here. :)

Normal:

Same reverse arrow slider: AU-SUM!!!
Much faster flow and feel to it adds to the challenge.
Wow! None suggestions here either! :)

Hard:

Instead of a slider...3 CIRCLES on beat yeah. :)
00:26:203 Pretty slider!
No suggestions here either. My oh my this map is actually pretty amazing.

Insane:

Expecting a comment about the very last part? TOO BAD! WALUIGI TIME!
I may be a noob to osu! but after playing this difficulty, I have gotten better at this game. :)
Couldn't find anything wrong here either....(Getting better!)

Liberty:

This map is amazing.
The super skilled players are sure to have a great time with this map! Especially if they like Shingeki no Kyojin.

OVERALL

This map is so well done that I am going to shoot a kudosu star its way.
I hope this map gets ranked some time soon! :)
glad to hear you really enjoyed it, and thanks for taking a look :)

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Shinchaechae wrote:

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Pretty fun map. Hate the song with a burning passions though. SNK maps, man.. Love that it's TV size ^^

I have nothing to pick at to be honest. Except for the whistles.. Damn whistles.

Liberty would have to be my favorite diff. The curvy sliders are a huge turn off for me anyway 00:10:088

The use of hit sounds was well done.
Great map hope it gets ranked ^^
haha, i'm not a fan of the full version myself :/ and the talk of whistles again, gaah at this rate i might have to change :<
thanks for taking a look anyway~

SPOILER
Sup.

Just taking a quick look because /lazy.
Replays
can't view the replays because map has been updated since :o sorryyy

[General]
  1. Timing at the beginning feels a bit off to me. Then again my accuacy has been totally derpy these days since I barely play anymore.
  2. To be honest, this is the best JNT map I've played as of yet, lol.
  3. I'm totally fine with the whistles, but you might wanna lower the volume a bit so they don't sound thaaaaat "screeching".
i'm more confident in the timing now than before, but i definitely plan to have it checked by an expert before rank, so do not worry~
glad to hear you think it's the best JnT you've played :) whistles... again i really don't want to change, but looks like there's many people against it. will have to consider more seriously now...

[Liberty]
Yupp, I like this diff quite a lot compared to every other JNT map out there. 00:50:014 (8,9,1) - These doubles don't play that well though imo. 01:02:205 (8,9,1) - etc. It's only those where it's a 2-note stack, then a slider that throws me off. I don't know, the flow just doesn't feel as good for these as for the other note/slider jumps. Might be since the stack makes you stop, and then there's a 1/4 jump instead of a 1/2 jump like 01:02:776 (3,4) - .
01:10:014 - 01:11:538 - <-- And you should add those drum-whistles for this part as well, since the chorusthing ends at 01:11:538 - .
imo, it would've been more confusing if the doubles (though it's really part of a triple) were spaced apart like the rest of the streamy bits. then it would REALLY look like it's a double rhythm. in order to reduce confusing while maintaining the rhythm as well as the mini 1/4 jumps i am so very fond of, i found this was the best way to do so.

as for those drum whistles, those are in the music, but not in that particular part, which is why i took them out. well i suppose i can add one at the end of the first (1) slider.

Also, the spaced out triple at 01:12:490 (3,4,5) - feels a bit out of place, as most other streams/triples are much closer. I guess it just doesn't fit with the overall flow I get from the map. Same with 01:25:443 (2,3,4) - , which is kinda overkill, aand will probably make people rage :P
it does yeah, doesn't it? i guess that's what i get for spacing the triples in Insane lol, since i couldn't exactly have Liberty's easier than Insane's.

in regards to the overkill, i might've changed it for the easier since you looked at it, so might want to take another look at that~

Another thing is the transition of spacing at 00:31:443 (8,9,1,2,3) - , which feels a wee bit forced to me. I don't know, the speed of those 1/4 sliders are kind of slow, and then suddenly 1/2 sliders with 1/4-jumps :P
hm, i sort of get what you mean, but i'll keep it as it is for now.

Overall a well-made map imo.
whoo

[Insane]
Maybe it's me, but the triples in the beginning like 00:20:092 (2,3,4) - really breaks the flow a bit for me. Maybe it's because the "ah"'s kind of fade out a bit, which to me suggests more of something flowy, rather than a static triple. Same for the triples at 01:19:538 -
i did a while back try out just sliders on the "AH!" bits, but it felt too bland and... bland. this way is more interesting while still maintaining sense i reckon, so i'll wager it's just a you thing :P

Also, the spacing in this diff looks.. Well not "weird", but kind of odd I guess, since you use a lot of stuff like 00:45:633 (1,2,3) - , where you go from 1.0x to 1.5x. They play fine, and are readable; just looks odd to me while playing.
all for the sake of emphasis~

The mapping feels a bit slow compared to the overall power of the song, but it fits well in the overall diffspread with Liberty as the hardest diff, so not realy a complaint :P It's a nice map.
whoo

[Hard]
00:04:353 (8) - Aaaah this feels just a bit too close when I play.
you're right, why the heck is this 1.0x spacing lol. changed.

Same about the "irregular" spacing as in [Insane], though it feels a bit more awkward here, mostly due to the AR probably.

00:32:681 (2,3) - And 00:33:443 (1,2) - doesn't play that well imo. Even Insane is kinda easier with the double at 00:33:443 (1) - . Anyhow, 3/4 is also fairly hard to read on lower AR, so yeah.
Otherwise, this is fine. Maybe AR7 to compensate a bit for the spacing, but AR6 works as well.
i suppose i can change to AR7, so let's see how that goes.

[Normal]
01:25:824 (1) - Only this not being symmetrical bothers me :P

[Easy]
01:25:824 (1) - Same as in Normal.

Otherwise, E/N are cool imo.
mentioned it in a response to another mod, but the reason for them not being symmetrical is to bring out emphasis on the lower end of the slider, otherwise it implies that all beats are equal in important (which they aren't).

CXu wrote:

Sooo that's my "quick" look, lol. I still spent an hour on this, derp. Anyhow, as I said, I really did enjoy the Liberty diff, so good job on that one.
glad you enjoyed :) add a drum hitwhistle on that bit in Insane, as well as changed Hard AR to 7, so let's see how they go.
thanks for the mod~

SPOILER
  • Easy
00:07:882 move it to http://puu.sh/4xWbd.jpg ofc snap the next note.. i already snaped it in this pic.. it will much look neater because it has straight pattern that will go directly to the next slider
hey you're right! changed.

00:09:647 can you just not stack it place it like this http://puu.sh/4xW5v.jpg by doing it this way it can continue the flow
sorry, prefer how it is right now.

00:13:176 add finish in slider head
i just had a finish previously, so i think it'll sound pretty meh with two finishes together. also the previous finish was in the music.

00:27:348 just make this blanket with 00:28:871 looks better
01:03:538 blanket
01:25:824 ctrl + j it looks good though nevermind
doing the blankets + the flip gets rid of the intended flow i was going for, so will keep as is.
  • Normal
00:04:353 spacing
i hope you realise how miniscule a 0.03 difference is and how it does not matter at all ._.

00:04:794 this doesnt have blanket rather good flow i suggest http://puu.sh/4xWyM.jpg
changed, but different than you suggested a bit.

00:11:853 make this a blanket the flow is unbalanced
meh gawd, okay.

00:13:980 why this part isnt map? in easy it was map..i think the music here is much interesting i suggest you map it
i have no idea what you're talking about, i don't map this section in any of the diffs. and i don't plan on doing so either.

01:00:871 make this straight plz
01:25:824 ro tate 90 anticlockwise or ctrl < so it can be different with easy
tilted sliders are intentional for how i want them to be played.
  • Hard

00:03:764 i feel this slider isnt perfect hmm strech it to 00:03:985 use 1/6 divisor
not perfect? lol with the new algorithm, sliders with 3 points can't NOT be perfect xD

00:07:294 this one to use 1/6 and stretch to 00:07:514 i think it will sound amazing and more fitting
i see no reason to do so, and makes it feel unnecessarily laggy.

00:07:882 ctrl j this note and make a blanket between 00:08:323 (1)
goes against the flow i want, so will keep as is.

00:41:252 (1) delete nc 00:42:205 (5) - add nc
it's fine as it is.

00:45:252 spacing you dont need much jumps here
i did it previously, so it's there for consistency.

00:54:776 add finish head
there is a finish on the head lol.
  • Insane
    Only the triples in the start bothers me..
  • Liberty
    00:50:014 can you change this on different way?
    00:52:681 i think this is only me.. i think this isnt following things.. maybe its just me.. maybe delete this note?
only did formation changes in easy and normal. thanks for the mod, YunoFanatic~

SPOILER

  • Easy
HP+1?
sure, why not.

00:04:794 (1,3,2) - spacing 1,26x here, better if use 1,20x as consistency
i don't see the problem, and i'm consistently using 1.25x throughout.

00:13:176 (2) - unsnapped (end) ,see aimod
i know, but i can't fix it because it's a slider :/

00:21:238 (3) - spacing issue here (1,26x)
again i don't see the issue...

00:28:871 (2) - extend to 00:29:443 - ? follow vocal btw
doing so breaks the flow.

00:39:538 (1) - spacing itentional 1,26x here?
00:39:538 (1,2) - try blanket here? http://puu.sh/4y8fM.jpg
00:42:205 (4) - spacing issue (1,27x) here
00:43:538 (2) - ^ (1,28x)
many spacing inconsistency (like 1,26x and 1,27x) in kiai time, well i don't want my mod only spacing issue here just tell from this is enough imo
01:20:681 (3) - maybe just for me , 296|80 for better flow?
spacing differences like 0.01 and 0.03 are absolutely miniscule. do NOT mention these in mod posts from now on, it's a waste of both the modder's and mapper's time. only mention spacing if it looks like the mapper has suddenly used 1.2x spacing or something, again 0.03 is miniscule. also with the blanket, mine actually blankets more than yours (as the slider is c&p and rotated and scaled) and i prefer other flow as it is now.

  • Normal
well, same as Easy.. found many spacing issue here (1,26x 1,27x etc)
00:04:794 (1) - spacing 1,27x issue here D:
*sigh* as before

00:07:882 (4,1,2) - how about make triangle pattern here http://puu.sh/4y8qp.jpg ? better visual and flow imo
sorry, prefer flow as it is now.

00:29:633 (3) - stacked here maybe make newbie confuse, so try 284,148?

00:54:395 (4) - at least unstacked this circle, this is make so confuse for newbie
anywhere other than stacked doesn't look good. will keep as is.

  • Hard
AR+1?
yep, did it in an earlier post.

00:29:633 (2) - 340,348 for flow?
00:33:252 (3) - well just opinion here, delete and make repeat slider in 00:32:681 (2) - ? just sound better for me
00:47:538 (2) - 180,204? just have better flow and more hard jump
00:52:871 (3,2) - overlap here, try (2) stacked with (3)'s head? it's more neat imo
01:01:252 (2) - here too, stacked with 01:00:490 (4) - ? more neat and make hard jump (ofc feel more fun to play)
01:21:633 (2) - 292,208? have better flow imo
i prefer what i already have. those overlaps were actually very carefully thought out.

  • Insane
00:12:734 (2,3,4) - make them triangle pattern, visual better and more neat http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/998925
sorry, i like my right angled flow.

00:24:294 (9) - 332,144 for triangle pattern? :3
prefer how it is now.

00:26:680 - add note? feel so weird if you skip this blue tick imo
00:37:633 (4) - ctrl+G and move to 236,188? better flow to play imo
00:52:109 (2) - better flow if you put in 128,116 imo
i think they're fine as they are.

  • Liberty
00:51:538 (8) - try ctrl+G to make it more challenge?
doing so breaks consistency.

01:12:586 (4) - opinion only. try 408,324 for better flow?
hmm, not bad, but i'll keep as it is now.

Xinely wrote:

Nice map , star and Good Luck ~
thanks~ only increased hp drain by 1 in easy.

and my god FINALLY GOT THROUGH ALL THE MODS! FINALLY!
CXu
Just thought I'd respond to your response so you can respond to my response of your response (wat)

About the whistles, I'd say that they're just a bit too loud, not so much that the whistles don't fit or anything. Still up to you though.
As for the "doubles" in Liberty, it was just that the spacing makes me think it's a double + 1/2, instead of a triple. What I meant was just making it more of a regular stream like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/999355 . Anyhow, I see you have this consistent 1/4 jump on every finish, so it is consistent. I just wish it read/flowed/played/whatever a bit better, since all the other ones feel great, while these just feel a bit off to me.

And I still think 01:25:443 (2,3,4) - is a bit much, especially since you're coming right from a note that had a spinnder 1/4 prior to it :P

For the triples in the beginning of insane, they're cool rhythm-wise (and sliders would probably be boring yeah). What I meant was to give them a bit more cursormovement by spacing them a bit http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/999370 . Well, your call on that ofc.

As for the last slider in Easy/Normal, what about making it a vertical one? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/999386 Though maybe that looks a bit bland. Anyhow, I'd say the repeat should be placed lower than the start/end, since the middle beat goes a bit lower in pitch.

Yeah, just to try and clarify what I meant; if you still disagree, then that's fine :P
izzydemon
m4m

Easy
nothing, just thought about this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1002662
also the aimod unsnapped object

Normal
the skin makes it pretty hard (at least for beginners) to see the start of most sliders on the kiai, not too sure about that though
00:13:617 - stack with the head of (1)

Hard
00:11:853 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1002676 for kawaii desu

Insane
aimod unsnapped object rrrghhsrd

Liberty
00:24:389 - just make this a single spinner D:
01:23:824 - ^
Sieg
Hello

General:
BG size should be 16:9 or 4:3 so I suggest to you resize yours to 1366x768
Since you have skin you need a complete set to your hitcircleoverlay.png and hitcircle.png that mean you missing:
approachcircle.png
reversearrow.png

Easy:
00:04:794 (1) - actually nazi but whatever, you can you nodes like on 01:12:109 (3) - to make it smoother

Normal:
00:30:395 (1,2) - not a fan of such circles under slider on normal-, this 00:28:871 (2,3) - maybe easier to hit because of slider but circle :\ Clearly remember that I hated this thing so much back then.
00:33:443 (1,2) - etc etc

Hard:
wow, really fun diff here, just 1 little thing
00:26:203 (1) - yeah, lol, that was useful to me. Don't really like shape of this slider, yes creative but well.. placed not symmetrically to x or y and that makes it just looking bad imo :\

Insane:
00:06:558 (3) - pretty much the same as for slider on easy
00:10:970 (5) - ^ ugu just smooth this a little and all similar
00:40:109 (5,1) - make this jump bigger to follow emphasis?
00:56:871 (5,6) - ^
01:09:062 (5,6) - ^
not taking into account these sliders diff looks good

Liberty:
00:37:443 (8) - move this to right a bit will make flow better
00:50:014 (8,9,2,3) - oh and this ones is hard to play
01:02:205 (8,9,2,3) - ^ I don't say this bad but requires quite good skill, probably you should ask more opinions of experienced players ~1-3k about this.

That's all. Good Luck.
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
SPOILER

Niokin wrote:

m4m

Easy
nothing, just thought about this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1002662 i prefer not to use 1/2 sliders in easy, thanks~
also the aimod unsnapped object unfortunately, i'm unable to fix that, since it's a slider, and i really want to keep it as a slider.

Normal
the skin makes it pretty hard (at least for beginners) to see the start of most sliders on the kiai, not too sure about that though i think it's fine.
00:13:617 - stack with the head of (1) prefer where it is now~

Hard
00:11:853 (1,2,3) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1002676 for kawaii desu noo, distance spacing man :v

Insane
aimod unsnapped object rrrghhsrd god, i have no idea how many times i've had to fix this. thanks.

Liberty
00:24:389 - just make this a single spinner D: noo
01:23:824 - ^
only fixed the unsnapped fdsaf in Insane. thanks for modding :)

SPOILER

Sieg wrote:

Hello

General:
BG size should be 16:9 or 4:3 so I suggest to you resize yours to 1366x768 okai
Since you have skin you need a complete set to your hitcircleoverlay.png and hitcircle.png that mean you missing: whoops
approachcircle.png
reversearrow.png

Easy:
00:04:794 (1) - actually nazi but whatever, you can you nodes like on 01:12:109 (3) - to make it smoother i could, but i like the shape and path of how it is now.

Normal:
00:30:395 (1,2) - not a fan of such circles under slider on normal-, this 00:28:871 (2,3) - maybe easier to hit because of slider but circle :\ Clearly remember that I hated this thing so much back then. will keep the stacked circles throughout the diff. as well as me liking them, it makes the difficulty spread more consistent.
00:33:443 (1,2) - etc etc

Hard:
wow, really fun diff here, just 1 little thing
00:26:203 (1) - yeah, lol, that was useful to me. Don't really like shape of this slider, yes creative but well.. placed not symmetrically to x or y and that makes it just looking bad imo :\ the slider itself is symmetrical, but i rotated it 15 degrees to the right because i didn't want it to be horizontally (or vertically) symmetrical. i also do want to map to that guitar in the music while keeping it relevant, and i found this was the best way to do so. otherwise, i'm glad to hear you thought the diff. was fun~

Insane:
00:06:558 (3) - pretty much the same as for slider on easy
00:10:970 (5) - ^ ugu just smooth this a little and all similar
00:40:109 (5,1) - make this jump bigger to follow emphasis? i did originally try that out, but felt that the flow felt too... linear (not sure best word to describe)? basically i like the jerkiness from the changing distance snaps.
00:56:871 (5,6) - ^
01:09:062 (5,6) - ^
not taking into account these sliders diff looks good thanks

Liberty:
00:37:443 (8) - move this to right a bit will make flow better quite fine with how it is now~
00:50:014 (8,9,2,3) - oh and this ones is hard to play you want me to find 1000 to 3000 players!? well i've found about 10, and all can play. in fact, i can play as well~
01:02:205 (8,9,2,3) - ^ I don't say this bad but requires quite good skill, probably you should ask more opinions of experienced players ~1-3k about this.

That's all. Good Luck. thank you!
only fixed background and skin things. quite note that aimod says that dimensions are wrong, but as they are from the new default skin (more details here) and peppy saying we can use them for sizing... it should be okay.

not sure if he's saying we can't use them as fill-ins for maps when he says "Please do not use them outside of this context", but we'll see. anyway, thanks for modding~
Sieg
I mean pp rank 1-3k not count, that the main target zone for this diff. :3
Still not agree with this stacks on normal, you should care what is good for players not spread, anyway that is your map.
yzhbxiang
Hi, I love this song very much :)

The map is well designed generally but I feel whistles are a little bit too noise during I play Insane and Liberty diff.
I suggest remove some whistles or reduce the volume of them. Like:
00:20:092 - 00:25:822 I think all the whistle sound volume during this area could be decrease, like 50% or less (If these whistle stands for arias)

By the way, the layout is designed in a casual way. I will prefer if you can put the notes and sliders in a symmetrical way.

Hope your version is the next Rank one in future :)
pimp
general

i disagree with the new combo logic in some parts (mostly on the easier diff's) but i will not complain since trying to keep new combo on long white ticks is not a bad thing

easy


00:39:538 (1) - add whistle on slider track
00:42:586 (1) - ^
00:56:300 (3) - ^

normal

00:31:538 (3) - i got a 100 on this artificial rhythm at 1st plays. but it's still fine i guess

hard

od-1 would not be bad here. the current is still fine anyways
cs-1 please. cs4 is too small for this distance usage.
i'm getting lots of 100's in parts like 00:48:490 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 00:53:252 (1,2,3,4,5) - and could not full combo at all. using cs3 i could SS at 1st try

00:27:348 (2) - new combo since here is a big rhythm change, all diff's are doing this.

insane


00:39:538 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing almost make me think that they where the same timing..almost..
i would prefer you move 1 a bit more to the right

i could fc this insane but with 91% accuracy. i noticed you are using the same od as the liberty diff which is clearly for another skill level
the insane is already a bit overmapped, how about od-1?

liberty

my opinion would not help i guess, it's mostly unplayble for me

not much things found, i'm a bit out of practice. but the map is already too good

star :D
[ Zzz ]
Hi~ YGOkid8 ( My only mod = suggestion. Sorry .... )

[Easy]


OD - 1

00:13:176 (2) -
[Normal]


HP + 1

00:13:599 (3) - stacked notes
( I want something that does not stack. )

[Hard]


AR + 1 OD - 1

00:13:599 (3) - stacked notes
( I want something that does not stack. )

00:40:490 (1) - New combo off

00:43:538 (1) - New combo off

00:53:633 (2) - stacked notes
( I want something that does not stack. ) I think it is important

[Insane]


OD - 1

01:12:490 (2,3,4) -
[Liberty]


00:04:077 (5) -
I can not be too hard difficulty mod ... Sorry

Star~
Hanabi
Hi~ m4m from your queue

[Easy]
00:36:490 (1) - rotate little
01:25:824 (1) - how about make a spinner there?


[Normal]
00:12:735 (2,3) - you'd rahter keep distance here
00:11:853 (1,2,3) - unsatack please it's quite hard to beginners
00:30:395 (1,2) - ^
i want to say try to change patterns like i said above (just suggestion~)

[Hard]
00:33:443 (1) - can be hidden by HP bar
00:48:490 (5) - change into long slider

[Insane]
00:03:763 (7) - NC
00:07:881 (4) - ctrl + g
00:13:503 - add circle?
00:26:108 (2) - overmapped- remove
00:59:348 (1) - bend it
01:07:348 (2) - for flow
01:12:490 (2,3,4) - make a reverse
01:25:824 (4,1) - switch NC


[Liberty]
00:07:294 (10) - NC
00:51:252 (6) - REMOVE?
01:03:443 (6) - ^
01:04:871 (6) - 301||220
01:24:586 (1,1) - too close imo

Done.
Liberty diff. is quite overmapped but i don't hate it xD

Good luck~
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
SPOILER

Sieg wrote:

I mean pp rank 1-3k not count, that the main target zone for this diff. :3
Still not agree with this stacks on normal, you should care what is good for players not spread, anyway that is your map.
oh okay, well all my tests were from people in this range anyway.
also with the stacks on normal, i also did say that i like them, as well as they being for the difficulty spread~

SPOILER

yzhbxiang wrote:

Hi, I love this song very much :)

The map is well designed generally but I feel whistles are a little bit too noise during I play Insane and Liberty diff.
I suggest remove some whistles or reduce the volume of them. Like:
00:20:092 - 00:25:822 I think all the whistle sound volume during this area could be decrease, like 50% or less (If these whistle stands for arias)

By the way, the layout is designed in a casual way. I will prefer if you can put the notes and sliders in a symmetrical way.

Hope your version is the next Rank one in future :)
thanks for taking a look~

SPOILER

pimpG wrote:

general

i disagree with the new combo logic in some parts (mostly on the easier diff's) but i will not complain since trying to keep new combo on long white ticks is not a bad thing

easy


00:39:538 (1) - add whistle on slider track prefer how it is now
00:42:586 (1) - ^
00:56:300 (3) - ^

normal

00:31:538 (3) - i got a 100 on this artificial rhythm at 1st plays. but it's still fine i guess it's true you can't really hear the beat in the music, but you won't really know that unless you're looking out for it, since people would generally expect a beat here anyway.

hard

od-1 would not be bad here. the current is still fine anyways i'm happy with the current od, thanks
cs-1 please. cs4 is too small for this distance usage. circle size 3 on a hard diff. that isn't iNiS? no way
i'm getting lots of 100's in parts like 00:48:490 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 00:53:252 (1,2,3,4,5) - and could not full combo at all. using cs3 i could SS at 1st try your skill level shouldn't have anything to do with what settings work best for the difficulty. no changes.

00:27:348 (2) - new combo since here is a big rhythm change, all diff's are doing this. i wanted to avoid having two (1,1) combos together, but eh, for consistency sure.

insane


00:39:538 (1,2,3,4) - this spacing almost make me think that they where the same timing..almost..
i would prefer you move 1 a bit more to the right didn't do that, but i did notice that spacing was a bit off in this section, so i fixed those.

i could fc this insane but with 91% accuracy. i noticed you are using the same od as the liberty diff which is clearly for another skill level
the insane is already a bit overmapped, how about od-1? insane diff. is nowhere near overmapped. the reason both ods and hp drains are the same is because they are both technically insane level difficulties, just that one is on the higher level.

liberty

my opinion would not help i guess, it's mostly unplayble for me

not much things found, i'm a bit out of practice. but the map is already too good

star :D[/quote
thanks for the star~ fixed up spacing issue in Insane, as well as NC in Hard.

SPOILER

[ Zzz ] wrote:

Hi~ YGOkid8 ( My only mod = suggestion. Sorry .... )

[Easy]

skin elements are taken directly from the new default skin's, so size should be fine. also i cannot snap the end of the slider, since it is well, a slider.
OD - 1 fine as it is i reckon

00:13:176 (2) -
[Normal]


HP + 1 again i think it is fine

00:13:599 (3) - stacked notes will keep as it is since i like how it plays.
( I want something that does not stack. )

[Hard]


AR + 1 OD - 1 fine as is

00:13:599 (3) - stacked notes again
( I want something that does not stack. )

00:40:490 (1) - New combo off fine as is

00:43:538 (1) - New combo off fine as is

00:53:633 (2) - stacked notes
( I want something that does not stack. ) I think it is important all stacks were carefully thought out before using.

[Insane]


OD - 1

01:12:490 (2,3,4) - yeah sure why not

[Liberty]


00:04:077 (5) - seems to be fine on my end.

I can not be too hard difficulty mod ... Sorry

Star~
small formation change in insane, as well as hopefully fixing another unsnapped beat in Liberty, god. thanks for the mod and star :)

SPOILER

[ Sana ] wrote:

Hi~ m4m from your queue

[Easy]
00:36:490 (1) - rotate little check your screenshot lol. anyway i like how it is now~
01:25:824 (1) - how about make a spinner there? nah, loses the impact.


[Normal]
00:12:735 (2,3) - you'd rahter keep distance here as it is about to speed up, i like this increased spacing.
00:11:853 (1,2,3) - unsatack please it's quite hard to beginners i like the stacking, plus it makes the difficulty spread better.
00:30:395 (1,2) - ^
i want to say try to change patterns like i said above (just suggestion~)

[Hard]
00:33:443 (1) - can be hidden by HP bar not a big deal, but moved down a tiny little bit anyway.
00:48:490 (5) - change into long slider use to be like that, but changed it to this, because i need that big white tick emphasis.

[Insane]
00:03:763 (7) - NC i'm doing new combos every 8 white ticks. NC here isn't needed and breaks consistency.
00:07:881 (4) - ctrl + g prefer how it is now
00:13:503 - add circle? not appropriate...
00:26:108 (2) - overmapped- remove you need to the music better if you think it's overmapped, but i think it's better with that beat anyway, so changed.
00:59:348 (1) - bend it no thank you~
01:07:348 (2) - for flow i like flow how it is right now
01:12:490 (2,3,4) - make a reverse nah
01:25:824 (4,1) - switch NC i would, but distance spacing changes on the (1).


[Liberty]
00:07:294 (10) - NC no idea what you're talking about
00:51:252 (6) - REMOVE? breaks intended flow
01:03:443 (6) - ^
01:04:871 (6) - 301||220 prefer how it is now
01:24:586 (1,1) - too close imo it is fine

Done.
Liberty diff. is quite overmapped but i don't hate it xD as everything is mapped to music, it is not overmapped at all.~

Good luck~
moved some objects down in hard, and deleted a beat in insane. thanks for the mod~
Saten
Hello o/

[Timing]
This is what I got~

1. Offset: 1 281ms BPM: 136,00
2. Offset: 11 869ms BPM: 138,40
3. Offset: 13 603ms BPM: 157,07
4. Offset: 25 826ms BPM: 157,20
5. Offset: 27 352ms BPM: 157,50

This sounds more accurate than the other ones imo


Good luck!
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
thank you so oh so much for timing, Saten~
Asphyxia
Hey there o/ From your queue!

So here's the mod I promised.

General thoughts:

  1. The slidertick sounds are (IMO) awfully loud, try reducing their volume a bit if you can.
Easy>

  1. I have to agree with moway here, AR3 would fit better here, and since you're using quite high OD this would make it more balanced?
  2. Pretty solid diff here, I didn't really catch anything.
Normal>

  1. 00:03:045 (3) - This slider feels too curved, I think if you could curve it less it would fit much better and even match more with 00:01:281 (1,2) -
  2. 00:29:637 (3) - I just generally dislike how these are stacked, I think they would play better if they wouldn't be fully stacked.
  3. 01:11:542 (2,3) - When playing this diff, I really felt that these two were too close to eachother, I suggest you would do it like this? This plays better for me.
  4. Nice diff here~
Hard>
  1. Don't you think OD7 is kinda high on this diff? And if you want to keep OD7, I suggest you raise AR by one tick because it would make the diff more equal I think and would made it easier to read this diff.
  2. 00:51:732 00:52:875 (3,2) - This overlap doesn't play well at all, the best solution I made up is that move (2) a bit up so it wont touch (3) at all
  3. 00:53:256 (1,3) - Why doesn't (3) have the small little curve like (1) does? It would fit muuuuuuuch better, like this
  4. Nice diff :3
Insane>

  1. OD8? I think it may be too much for this Insane and having the same OD with the hardest diff isn't the best idea (atleast I think so)... so I suggest -1 OD. It would also reduce the jump between Hard - Insane.
  2. 00:33:256 (4,3) - To prevent this overlap, I suggest you move 00:31:923 (1,2,3) - a bit down, and then create a slider that is blanket with (4) aka something like this maybe?:
Liberty>

  1. 00:19:714 (1) - This came a bit too fast, I think you could end your spinner at 00:19:523 - it would help a lot.
  2. 01:24:590 (1,1) - ^
  3. 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - This spacing was quite surprising, I recommend lowering the distance on these because they're kinda hard to hit >:
That would be the mod I guess... If you found this usefull at all, feel free to kudo me but if you didn't then you don't need to kudo.

Best of luck with this mapset :) Have a star also!
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
SPOILER

Asphyxia wrote:

Hey there o/ From your queue!

So here's the mod I promised.

General thoughts:

  1. The slidertick sounds are (IMO) awfully loud, try reducing their volume a bit if you can. i've already reduced slidertick sounds by quite a bit (20%) and it is at this volume that i feel it's loud enough for the impact, but not loud enough for it to be jarring.
Easy>

  1. I have to agree with moway here, AR3 would fit better here, and since you're using quite high OD this would make it more balanced? could've sworn i already changed it to AR3, but looks like i didn't, so changed.
  2. Pretty solid diff here, I didn't really catch anything. whoo
Normal>

  1. 00:03:045 (3) - This slider feels too curved, I think if you could curve it less it would fit much better and even match more with 00:01:281 (1,2) - i did try yours out and while it does flow pretty well, i prefer what i have now, due to how the slider curves around and up again.
  2. 00:29:637 (3) - I just generally dislike how these are stacked, I think they would play better if they wouldn't be fully stacked. since i consistently stack throughout the diff, i don't exactly want one instance where i do. i also feel it's fine as it is.
  3. 01:11:542 (2,3) - When playing this diff, I really felt that these two were too close to eachother, I suggest you would do it like this? This plays better for me. i kinda understand what you mean, but if i do it like in your example, it looks like it's going up away into nowhere. or something like that, will keep it as it is sorry.
  4. Nice diff here~ whoo thanks
Hard>
  1. Don't you think OD7 is kinda high on this diff? And if you want to keep OD7, I suggest you raise AR by one tick because it would make the diff more equal I think and would made it easier to read this diff. OD7 is a derp on my part, i meant to increase AR by 1 a while back, but looks like i tinkered the OD instead, haha.
  2. 00:51:732 00:52:875 (3,2) - This overlap doesn't play well at all, the best solution I made up is that move (2) a bit up so it wont touch (3) at all i actually like this overlap here, and thought very hard about the positioning of (2).
  3. 00:53:256 (1,3) - Why doesn't (3) have the small little curve like (1) does? It would fit muuuuuuuch better, like this because the previous (3) already has the curveeee, and i don't want the same curve facing the same direction so close in the timeline together.
  4. Nice diff :3 whoo
Insane>

  1. OD8? I think it may be too much for this Insane and having the same OD with the hardest diff isn't the best idea (atleast I think so)... so I suggest -1 OD. It would also reduce the jump between Hard - Insane. Insane is already pretty easy already. the reason the OD is the same is if i had only decided to map one of these diffs, regardless of which, the only difference would be the AR. and that's why they're the same.
  2. 00:33:256 (4,3) - To prevent this overlap, I suggest you move 00:31:923 (1,2,3) - a bit down, and then create a slider that is blanket with (4) aka something like this maybe?: i just moved the (1,2,3) a bit so that the overlap wouldn't occur~
Liberty>

  1. 00:19:714 (1) - This came a bit too fast, I think you could end your spinner at 00:19:523 - it would help a lot. nah, it's cool as it is~
  2. 01:24:590 (1,1) - ^
  3. 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - This spacing was quite surprising, I recommend lowering the distance on these because they're kinda hard to hit >: already lowered the distance quite a bit (use to be 2.6x lol) and i want it to be constanttt
That would be the mod I guess... If you found this usefull at all, feel free to kudo me but if you didn't then you don't need to kudo.

Best of luck with this mapset :) Have a star also! whoo, thank you, too kind
increased AR on Easy, Normal and Hard, lowered OD on Hard and small repositioning in Insane. many thanks for mod and star~
Awaken
Mod From your queue ~


  • [General]
  1. Check Aimod

    [Easy]
  2. 00:04:810 (1) - what about making a blanket with 00:03:928 (2)?
  3. 00:28:875 (2) - you can try make its trajectory the same with 00:27:352 (1).For example:
  4. 00:54:780 (1) - blanket with 00:53:256 (2)'s head?

    [Normal]
  5. 00:38:780 (5) - try this shape?
  6. 01:01:828 (2,3) - this looks more beautiful XD

    [Hard]
  7. 00:33:066 add a circle?
  8. 01:02:399 (1) - blanket with 01:02:209 (5)?

    [Insane]
  9. OD-1?There is already the most difficult diff.
  10. 00:23:725 (5,6,7,8,9) - make a regular triangle?
  11. 00:28:494 (4) - ctrl+g?
  12. 00:32:304 add a circle?
  13. 00:33:066 ^
  14. 00:46:018 (2) - put it on x199 y111 ?
  15. 00:46:590 (4) - put it on x262 y262 ?

    [Liberty]
  16. 00:29:256 (2,3,4) - this trajectory looks better :3
  17. 00:31:923 (1,2,3) - try this kind of flow.
  18. 00:47:066 (8) - make it have the same distance with 7's tail and 1's head?
  19. 01:12:494 - 01:13:066 I think you can change here into fulll stream.
That's all
Good Luck~~ :)
AnreFM
Hi YGO~ trying to M4M here :D
I hope my mod help you, I was trying my best here><
Okay let's start~


[Easy]
00:13:169 (2) - Make it like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005315 the vocal tone is somewhat doesn't fit with the straight slider :o
00:28:875 (2) - umm NC? since you are using NC on stanzas after a certain vocal, and the previous slider doesn't have any vocal in it, why not? ><
00:30:399 (1) - Raise the tail like this? to emphasize the raising vocal on the repeat ouo
00:32:685 (2) - delete this note? since you're following the vocals on the notes before this, this one is a bit tricky in my opinion
00:44:875 (3) - I'd suggest to make the turn here sharper(change the white dot to red one). Because this slider still in the same vocal part like 00:42:590 (1,2) - and they have sharp turns too, make it kinda consistent for this vocal part orz http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005360
00:49:256 (2) - Make it more curvy like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005370 Fit with vocal (and the arrangement is good too ouo). btw It's the mirror of 00:47:161 (2) - with applied ctrl h + j and of course -1 repeat lol
00:54:780 (1) - umm this one's shape isn't kinda nice because it doesn't have a pattern with the sliders before or blanketing 00:53:256 (2) -. umm of course it doesn't have to, but I don't really fond on this one-__-, if there aren't any better suggestion, how about at least mirror 00:53:256 (2) - ? ;_;
wow everything is arranged nicely and follow the rhythm so good :)

[Normal]
00:13:603 (3) - umm to avoid that little overlap with the comboburst? how about moving this to 360/132?
00:28:875 (2,3) - I don't mind with the stack on this one, but the note is a bit tricky, try this one http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005407
00:31:732 (3) - umm lol yeah that stack>< Since you're following vocal on that stack, the next note is a bit tricky since it follows different rhythm>< try https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005490
00:38:780 (5) - That 3rd dot(the middle one) doesn't have to be sharp lol, doesn't fit with the vocal
00:36:494 (1) - sorry for nazi but how about stacking the tail with 00:34:209 (2) - 's comboburst?
00:37:637 (3) - well this one is better to read owob
00:57:256 (4) - is fine but doesn't necesarrily sharp imo, the music isn't really intense ouo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005589
01:11:542 (2,3) - ah make them stack like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005594 the antijump feels really fit ouo
ah, that stack doesn't really bothers me, but wouldn't it best to make the map less tricky(this is normal lol) for beginners? So that they will enjoy the map better ovo

[Hard]
01:04:494 (2,3) - I think 01:04:494 (2) - 'stail can be moved more to the right to blanket 01:03:923 (1) - better ovo
01:08:113 (3,4,1) - how about using the gradually incrasing DS tech on this one (I don't know what it is called :p)
01:12:685 (2,3,4) - ^
Sorry for not helping much here, the rest is already good and there aren't any problem :D

[Insane]
00:33:732 (3) - umm I don't really see why this note is shaped like this, It doesn't really emphasize the vocal and music in this part :o
00:37:637 (5) - Add triplet before this slider? Fit with your rhythms of triplet (00:33:637 (2,3) - & 00:35:447 (2,3) - ouo )
yeah this one is already perfect too and you do it very much your style and I won't change it ouob


Ah I guess that's all then; Liberty is perfect, the streams are good, but there's too much for my noobness :P but it plays fun nonetheless~
I really hope my mod helps, sorry if it doesn't :o and I hope my reasoning are clear enough, If it isn't, just say so><
star btw because your maps really need to be back again after all this time<3
ritsu-tanaika
Right, lets to the M4M now.

EASY

00:01:281 (1) - Add a finish at the end of the slider, for emphasis of the rhythm

00:10:104 (2) - ^, but this time it is at the beginning of the slider

00:38:018 (3) - Add a clap to the end of the slider to emphasize the end of a stanza

00:42:209 (4) - Add a clap hitsound, because I feel that it is necessary to emphasize this part of the song as it nears the chorus

01:25:828 (1) - ^, final note is very important

NORMAL

00:11:428 (5) - Suggest adding a clap because it is hard to follow the rhythm without any clap emphasis

00:29:637 (3) - Best not to stack this slider with 00:28:875 (2) - because the hidden number 3 could confuse some players playing Normal

00:31:161 (2) - ^, but not stack with 00:30:399 (1) -

00:34:209 (2) - ^, but not stack with 00:33:447 (1) -

Just so you know, a lot of these hidden notes occur later in the beatmap. Its up to you whether you want to change or not, but Im suggesting that at 3 stars, stacking notes isnt exactly a good idea, at least in my opinion

00:39:923 (1) - Add a clap sound

01:08:113 (2) - Increase the volume to at least 30% for this note, no hitsound can be heard now

HARD

00:12:736 (2) - No need to add a Finish here

00:30:399 (1) - Add a finish hitsound, to emphasize the start of a new stanza

00:45:256 (3) - Add both a clap and finish at this note

INSANE

00:26:016 (1) - I suggest removing this note because it plays too quickly after the spinner, even good players will have a hard time trying to recover from the spinning to hit it in time

01:25:828 (4) - I suggest NC'ng this to make the triangle pattern much more visible, if all 3 notes 01:25:828 (1,2,3) - are green

Sorry but I dont think I can mod Liberty, I probably wouldnt be able to give good mods. But I took a good look at the other 4 and thats pretty much all the stuff I wanted to point out, hope I helped
Dark Fang
boom

[General]

  1. First offset +3 from current state (1284)
    Second offset -11 from current state (11,858)
    Third offset +23 from current state (13,626)
  2. nvm please your background image's name cleary lol
  3. why approach circle skin's size is 126 * 128 ;_;
  4. add 'Revo' in tags. he is composer of this song
[EZ]

  1. 00:19:714 - can you offer beat more easier than now. this beat is hard to read for easy players. like this?nevermind dat note arrangement well.. if you want to mentain 01:19:161 - this section, i'll talk to you. this section was already ready to receive a little difficult beat by previous KIAI Time.(P.S. this section is KIAI Time too)
  2. 01:03:923 (1,2) - why don't you change beat like 00:45:637 (1,2) - this? same opinion as above.
very good work. i love it :3

[NM]

  1. 00:49:637 (2,3) - aah. deign the Whistle sound in each slider's body. i heard resonance of vocal on here.
  2. 01:25:828 (1) - Die Flügel der Freiheit
perfect

[HD]

  1. 00:34:018 (2,3) - I think this pattern will confuse or hard to read for players who play with any mods (none mod too) can you try to some change on pattern like this? nvm note arrangement too
[SHD]

good to play. no problem on my eye. just, the HP drain's degree is low as compared to map's overall difficulty. IMO
and this diff has a unsnapped inherited point on here 00:35:832

[Liberty]

awwww
  1. 00:04:075 (5,6,7) - why don't you reduce distance this notes? that is no have sound effect like 00:03:928 - here.
  2. 00:08:045 (6,7) - same opinion as above. use 1.5x distance only 00:08:339 (1) - here. or use 1.75x distance on 00:08:339 (1) - here like 00:10:104 (1) - it
  3. 00:12:736 (4,6) - reduce distance a little bit pleeeease.
  4. 01:02:209 (8,9,1) - if you try to blanket that notes, please adjust more cleary
  5. 01:12:494 (3,4,5) - why don't you change the angle like this? it maybe more good flow than current. IMO
this map is not my style.. but very smooth and good maps
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
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Awaken wrote:

Mod From your queue ~


  • [General]
  1. Check Aimod skin elements are from new default skin, so it should be fine.

    [Easy]
  2. 00:04:810 (1) - what about making a blanket with 00:03:928 (2)? nah, it'll poop up my flow and the pattern i've got afterwards
  3. 00:28:875 (2) - you can try make its trajectory the same with 00:27:352 (1).For example: again it'll poop up flow that i want, so no changes
  4. 00:54:780 (1) - blanket with 00:53:256 (2)'s head? as before~

    [Normal]
  5. 00:38:780 (5) - try this shape? i use this exact slider in hard as well, and as well as me liking it, changing will require me to change in there as well for consistency.
  6. 01:01:828 (2,3) - this looks more beautiful XD breaks intended flow, as before~

    [Hard]
  7. 00:33:066 add a circle? i want to not click on 1/4s in this diff, consistency and difficulty thing.
  8. 01:02:399 (1) - blanket with 01:02:209 (5)? nuu, as before.

    [Insane]
  9. OD-1?There is already the most difficult diff. "most difficult diff" lol oh you. keeping as is.
  10. 00:23:725 (5,6,7,8,9) - make a regular triangle? breaks intended flow
  11. 00:28:494 (4) - ctrl+g? hm, but then flow from (4) to (1) will be weird, will keep as is.
  12. 00:32:304 add a circle? intended flow breakage
  13. 00:33:066 ^ ~
  14. 00:46:018 (2) - put it on x199 y111 ? BIF (breaks intended flow)
  15. 00:46:590 (4) - put it on x262 y262 ? bif

    [Liberty]
  16. 00:29:256 (2,3,4) - this trajectory looks better :3 hm, quite fine with how mine is.
  17. 00:31:923 (1,2,3) - try this kind of flow. lol nah, i ctrl+g'd the (2) into that to begin with xD
  18. 00:47:066 (8) - make it have the same distance with 7's tail and 1's head? nope, the jump is intended.
  19. 01:12:494 - 01:13:066 I think you can change here into fulll stream. tried, but didn't like.
That's all
Good Luck~~ :)
no changes, thank for modding~

SPOILER

AnreFM wrote:

Hi YGO~ trying to M4M here :D
I hope my mod help you, I was trying my best here><
Okay let's start~


[Easy]
00:13:169 (2) - Make it like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005315 the vocal tone is somewhat doesn't fit with the straight slider :o tried out a few things, i like straight slider down better.
00:28:875 (2) - umm NC? since you are using NC on stanzas after a certain vocal, and the previous slider doesn't have any vocal in it, why not? >< i'm doing combo switches every 8 white ticks, consistently. take a closer look~
00:30:399 (1) - Raise the tail like this? to emphasize the raising vocal on the repeat ouo you didn't link me image, so no idea what you're talking about lol
00:32:685 (2) - delete this note? since you're following the vocals on the notes before this, this one is a bit tricky in my opinion eh, i think it's fine. otherwise i don't like the gap that gets left here.
00:44:875 (3) - I'd suggest to make the turn here sharper(change the white dot to red one). Because this slider still in the same vocal part like 00:42:590 (1,2) - and they have sharp turns too, make it kinda consistent for this vocal part orz i use smooth slider consistently throughout all diffs, which is why i have it here as well, not to mention i like it.http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005360
00:49:256 (2) - Make it more curvy like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005370 Fit with vocal (and the arrangement is good too ouo). btw It's the mirror of 00:47:161 (2) - with applied ctrl h + j and of course -1 repeat lol prefer how it is now, as yours breaks my intended flow (aka. bmif)
00:54:780 (1) - umm this one's shape isn't kinda nice because it doesn't have a pattern with the sliders before or blanketing 00:53:256 (2) -. umm of course it doesn't have to, but I don't really fond on this one-__-, if there aren't any better suggestion, how about at least mirror 00:53:256 (2) - ? ;_; bmif, i like how it continues from the previous (2)
wow everything is arranged nicely and follow the rhythm so good :) thanks~

[Normal]
00:13:603 (3) - umm to avoid that little overlap with the comboburst? how about moving this to 360/132? lol comboburst :P will keep as it is, as it flows how i want it to flow.
00:28:875 (2,3) - I don't mind with the stack on this one, but the note is a bit tricky, try this one http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005407 not a bad suggestion, but consistency of rhythm thing. see following sliders beginning on big white ticks.
00:31:732 (3) - umm lol yeah that stack>< Since you're following vocal on that stack, the next note is a bit tricky since it follows different rhythm>< try https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005490 sorry, i find yours to be more complicated :/
00:38:780 (5) - That 3rd dot(the middle one) doesn't have to be sharp lol, doesn't fit with the vocal it's mapped to both vocals and the stream in the music, but more predominantly the stream.
00:36:494 (1) - sorry for nazi but how about stacking the tail with 00:34:209 (2) - 's comboburst? i think you mean slider end, but anyway it's already stacked, so not sure what you're talking about.
00:37:637 (3) - well this one is better to read owob it's exactly the same as the previous ones!
00:57:256 (4) - is fine but doesn't necesarrily sharp imo, the music isn't really intense ouo i like the sharpness, thanks https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005589
01:11:542 (2,3) - ah make them stack like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1005594 the antijump feels really fit ouo
ah, that stack doesn't really bothers me, but wouldn't it best to make the map less tricky(this is normal lol) for beginners? So that they will enjoy the map better ovo disagree, bmif~

[Hard]
01:04:494 (2,3) - I think 01:04:494 (2) - 'stail can be moved more to the right to blanket 01:03:923 (1) - better ovo bmif + blanket was not my intention~
01:08:113 (3,4,1) - how about using the gradually incrasing DS tech on this one (I don't know what it is called :p) eh, i think it's good enough as it is already
01:12:685 (2,3,4) - ^
Sorry for not helping much here, the rest is already good and there aren't any problem :D whoo thanks

[Insane]
00:33:732 (3) - umm I don't really see why this note is shaped like this, It doesn't really emphasize the vocal and music in this part :o true, but i like the flow here~
00:37:637 (5) - Add triplet before this slider? Fit with your rhythms of triplet (00:33:637 (2,3) - & 00:35:447 (2,3) - ouo ) not a bad idea, but the triples were only there to map to the vocals. i also don't really like how it sounds here, sorry :/
yeah this one is already perfect too and you do it very much your style and I won't change it ouob whoo


Ah I guess that's all then; Liberty is perfect, the streams are good, but there's too much for my noobness :P but it plays fun nonetheless~
I really hope my mod helps, sorry if it doesn't :o and I hope my reasoning are clear enough, If it isn't, just say so><
star btw because your maps really need to be back again after all this time<3
00:30:399 (1) - Raise the tail like this? to emphasize the raising vocal on the repeat ou
^you didn't give me a screenie or anything to show :P no changes, but that might change depending on how you wanted that to be. thanks for modding~

SPOILER

ritsu-tanaika wrote:

Right, lets to the M4M now.

EASY

00:01:281 (1) - Add a finish at the end of the slider, for emphasis of the rhythm i'm quite happy with my choice of hitsounds here, and have consistently used them through all diffs, so no changes.

00:10:104 (2) - ^, but this time it is at the beginning of the slider

00:38:018 (3) - Add a clap to the end of the slider to emphasize the end of a stanza the lone clap sounds too powerful and out of place to warrant a use

00:42:209 (4) - Add a clap hitsound, because I feel that it is necessary to emphasize this part of the song as it nears the chorus i already have a clap on the repeat end, to go with the music

01:25:828 (1) - ^, final note is very important don't like the clap sound there, sowwie

NORMAL

00:11:428 (5) - Suggest adding a clap because it is hard to follow the rhythm without any clap emphasis

00:29:637 (3) - Best not to stack this slider with 00:28:875 (2) - because the hidden number 3 could confuse some players playing Normal i did intend the Normal to be a tad harder, and i like how it turned out. it's also to bridge spread better from easy -> normal -> hard

00:31:161 (2) - ^, but not stack with 00:30:399 (1) -

00:34:209 (2) - ^, but not stack with 00:33:447 (1) -

Just so you know, a lot of these hidden notes occur later in the beatmap. Its up to you whether you want to change or not, but Im suggesting that at 3 stars, stacking notes isnt exactly a good idea, at least in my opinion

00:39:923 (1) - Add a clap sound

01:08:113 (2) - Increase the volume to at least 30% for this note, no hitsound can be heard now no idea what you're talking about, it's on 75% o.o

HARD

00:12:736 (2) - No need to add a Finish here i do it in all my diffs, and it's in the music as well.

00:30:399 (1) - Add a finish hitsound, to emphasize the start of a new stanza

00:45:256 (3) - Add both a clap and finish at this note

INSANE

00:26:016 (1) - I suggest removing this note because it plays too quickly after the spinner, even good players will have a hard time trying to recover from the spinning to hit it in time fine as it is

01:25:828 (4) - I suggest NC'ng this to make the triangle pattern much more visible, if all 3 notes 01:25:828 (1,2,3) - are green spacing change occurs on the (1), which is why the (4) isn't NC'd

Sorry but I dont think I can mod Liberty, I probably wouldnt be able to give good mods. But I took a good look at the other 4 and thats pretty much all the stuff I wanted to point out, hope I helped
no changes, but thanks for modding!

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Dark Fang wrote:

boom whoa

[General]

  1. First offset +3 from current state (1284) timing sounds fine to me :/
    Second offset -11 from current state (11,858)
    Third offset +23 from current state (13,626)
  2. nvm please your background image's name cleary lol doesn't matter though :v
  3. why approach circle skin's size is 126 * 128 ;_; just is, idk, took straight from new default skin
  4. add 'Revo' in tags. he is composer of this song sure np
[EZ]

  1. 00:19:714 - can you offer beat more easier than now. this beat is hard to read for easy players. like this?nevermind dat note arrangement well.. if you want to mentain 01:19:161 - this section, i'll talk to you. this section was already ready to receive a little difficult beat by previous KIAI Time.(P.S. this section is KIAI Time too) i already wanted easy to be a slightly more challenging easy to fit the mood of the song, but we can talk about it if you want.
  2. 01:03:923 (1,2) - why don't you change beat like 00:45:637 (1,2) - this? same opinion as above. vocals is different in this section compared to previous, so mapping differently to show difference.
very good work. i love it :3 whoo

[NM]

  1. 00:49:637 (2,3) - aah. deign the Whistle sound in each slider's body. i heard resonance of vocal on here. :o was an accident, fixed!
  2. 01:25:828 (1) - Die Flügel der Freiheit
perfect whoo

[HD]

  1. 00:34:018 (2,3) - I think this pattern will confuse or hard to read for players who play with any mods (none mod too) can you try to some change on pattern like this? nvm note arrangement too sorry, love it how it is right now~
[SHD]

good to play. no problem on my eye. just, the HP drain's degree is low as compared to map's overall difficulty. IMO
and this diff has a unsnapped inherited point on here 00:35:832 well it's snapped to 1/4, but no harm in moving it forward i suppose

[Liberty]

awwww
  1. 00:04:075 (5,6,7) - why don't you reduce distance this notes? that is no have sound effect like 00:03:928 - here. mapped to the 1/6 drum triplets in the background, also like the flow how it is~
  2. 00:08:045 (6,7) - same opinion as above. use 1.5x distance only 00:08:339 (1) - here. or use 1.75x distance on 00:08:339 (1) - here like 00:10:104 (1) - it accidental, fixed~
  3. 00:12:736 (4,6) - reduce distance a little bit pleeeease. noo
  4. 01:02:209 (8,9,1) - if you try to blanket that notes, please adjust more cleary doesn't look good here, but blankets properly in play mode~
  5. 01:12:494 (3,4,5) - why don't you change the angle like this? it maybe more good flow than current. IMO prefer how it is now~
this map is not my style.. but very smooth and good maps
added slider whistles on the sliders in normal, resnapped an inherited point in insane and fixed up a spacing problem in liberty. thanks much for mod!
Kurai
Bubbled ~
Dark Fang


go rank
Oyatsu
Go! Go! Kid8!!~
Irreversible
Great~
Backstep
Hi YGOkid8.

Ah... too late to mod this map from your queue, and your map get a bubble now~ ._.

But I'll try for my best and hope you mod my map soon >w<

Let's me give you some suggestion x3

Liberty
00:37:447 (8) - You can avoid this note to lap your stream notes I suggest you move this note to right direction with same spacing :3
00:40:304 (6) - I don't know you want to anti-jump here? If you want to keep this jump, I suggestion you move your note like this?
SPOILER

It better to arrange before coz If you use this symmetric trapezoid shape it make your spacing (5) to (6) and (8) to (9)
00:41:256 (1,1) - Whistle these notes to continue fit your vocal rhythm?
00:48:685 (1) - You can add whistle here (together with finish sound) coz when I test, it make me feel your beat not same previous rhythm D:
00:55:352 (4,7) - Add whistle at start slider for both notes to make like previous rhythm :3
01:00:875 (1) - Same here, I feel it must be whistle in this note isn't it orz ._.
01:07:542 (4) - Missing whistle to fit vocal sound here.

Insane
* Like Liberty diff about missing hitsound
00:43:161 (5) - You can move this note like this to make (5), (1) and (2) in the same line like this?
01:12:875 (5,1) - Like previous suggestion you can make your note like this ?

Easy

00:28:113 and 00:28:304 I'm not sure these green timings are you use ? I try remove it and found hardly different from before ._.

Other diffs
* Like Liberty about hitsound other that I think it fine for me~

I hope my suggestion will help your map :P
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
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backstep wrote:

Hi YGOkid8.

Ah... too late to mod this map from your queue, and your map get a bubble now~ ._.

But I'll try for my best and hope you mod my map soon >w<

Let's me give you some suggestion x3

Liberty
00:37:447 (8) - You can avoid this note to lap your stream notes I suggest you move this note to right direction with same spacing :3 overlap with the stream was intentional, and it doesn't matter anyway~
00:40:304 (6) - I don't know you want to anti-jump here? If you want to keep this jump, I suggestion you move your note like this? not an anti-jump, just going back to original spacing. and that was how i intended it to be, thanks
SPOILER

It better to arrange before coz If you use this symmetric trapezoid shape it make your spacing (5) to (6) and (8) to (9)
00:41:256 (1,1) - Whistle these notes to continue fit your vocal rhythm? i originally did, but didn't like the sound so i removed them.
00:48:685 (1) - You can add whistle here (together with finish sound) coz when I test, it make me feel your beat not same previous rhythm D: no whistle there because no vocals start there, it's only a carry on.
00:55:352 (4,7) - Add whistle at start slider for both notes to make like previous rhythm :3 my whistles are mapped to vocals, so no thanks
01:00:875 (1) - Same here, I feel it must be whistle in this note isn't it orz ._. as above
01:07:542 (4) - Missing whistle to fit vocal sound here. and above

Insane
* Like Liberty diff about missing hitsound
00:43:161 (5) - You can move this note like this to make (5), (1) and (2) in the same line like this? they are deliberately misaligned because i like it better that way~
01:12:875 (5,1) - Like previous suggestion you can make your note like this ? same as before~

Easy

00:28:113 and 00:28:304 I'm not sure these green timings are you use ? I try remove it and found hardly different from before ._. it's to change the sound of the slidertick to the normal-hitnormal sound.

Other diffs
* Like Liberty about hitsound other that I think it fine for me~

I hope my suggestion will help your map :P
backstep if you read my queue more carefully (especially the red and blue text), you'd know that you didn't have to mod my map :P
no changes, but i appreciate the look regardless!
Backstep
No problem.

My English skill is not very well, that why I post it here LOL

/run :D
Andrea
Did some IRC modding with the mapper, fixed only a few things.

SPOILER
01:08 Andrea: okay let's see
01:09 Andrea: are you ready?
01:09 YGOkid8: yeah of course
01:09 Andrea: approachcircle.png's dimensions must be exactly 128x128 (currently 126x128).
01:09 Andrea: reversearrow.png's dimensions must be exactly 128x128 (currently 78x58).
01:09 YGOkid8: yeah about that
01:09 YGOkid8: i took those from the new default skin
01:10 YGOkid8: remember? we talked about this lol
01:10 Andrea: both of them?
01:10 YGOkid8: both of them
01:10 YGOkid8: from the thread
01:11 Andrea: I'm not totally sure if that's okay though
01:11 Andrea: not so experienced about skins
01:11 YGOkid8: give me two secs while i dig out the thread
01:11 Andrea: alright~
01:12 YGOkid8: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/129191
01:12 YGOkid8: "These graphics are free for use as a template for sizing and shaping your own skins."
01:12 Andrea: okay then
01:12 Andrea: I'll take your word on this :V
01:13 Andrea: let's start with Easy
01:13 Andrea: OD -1, feels a bit too high imo
01:13 YGOkid8: sure
01:13 Andrea: also so it's balanced with the drain
01:13 Andrea: would work pretty good :P
01:13 YGOkid8: thinking
01:14 Andrea: 00:48:685 (1,2) - I'd switch the NC to (2) instead, since lyrics restarts there actually
01:14 Andrea: also because of the new pattern
01:14 Andrea: makes much more sense
01:15 Andrea: 00:57:256 (4,1) - NC on (4), delete on next note - lyrics and new section begins on (4), not on (1)
01:15 YGOkid8: reduced od, with the combos
01:15 Andrea: 01:00:875 (1,2) - same as 00:48
01:15 YGOkid8: i consistently change nc's on every x number of white ticks
01:16 Andrea: welp, they feel random to me though :c
01:16 Andrea: 01:25:828 (1) - I suggest you to put this slider a bit more up, since it might be hard to see due to previous hitburst from spinner
01:16 Andrea: and beginners might go "what to hit there"
01:16 Andrea: and stuff
01:17 YGOkid8: doesn't the new hitburst disappear super fast when there's stuff beneath it now?
01:17 Andrea: same as it always been
01:17 Andrea: so it's better to move it up a bit
01:17 Andrea: better caring than not :V
01:19 YGOkid8: better check it out yourself lol
01:19 YGOkid8: it disappears so fast i don't even see it appear in the first place
01:19 Andrea: http://puu.sh/4CHze.jpg btw even AIMod says the same
01:19 Andrea: not only AIBat
01:19 Andrea: like it's an enforced size
01:20 Andrea: btw yeah, but still, it's not suggested to be placed in the center
01:20 YGOkid8: wait
01:20 YGOkid8: what does what AIMod point out have to do with anything?
01:20 Andrea: regarding reversearrow and hitcircle
01:20 Andrea: approachcircle*
01:20 Andrea: like I mentioned before >_<
01:21 YGOkid8: the size?
01:21 Andrea: yup
01:21 Andrea: being incorrect
01:21 YGOkid8: i thought we're good with that now
01:21 Andrea: 128x126, can't understand why it isn't 128x128
01:21 Andrea: oh cool
01:22 YGOkid8: like i linked to the thread and the peppy quote? lol
01:22 Andrea: yeah, but it's your responsability huh :v
01:22 Andrea: I'm just saying things that the editor points me out
01:22 YGOkid8: yeah, hm
01:22 YGOkid8: if i update, are you still able to go straight for rank?
01:23 Andrea: the bubble will be popped if you do
01:23 Andrea: might be better if you upload once we finished whole mod
01:23 YGOkid8: yeah i know, but you can rank if minor changes, right?
01:23 Andrea: sure
01:23 YGOkid8: was wondering if this was minor enough
01:23 Andrea: skin thing?
01:24 Andrea: yep it's nothing too big I guess
01:24 YGOkid8: yeah
01:24 Andrea: you could either fix them or just remove them :D
01:24 Andrea: people disable skins anyways
01:24 YGOkid8: okay, just lemme switch comps
01:24 YGOkid8: this one is not ideal
01:24 Andrea: sure, I have time anyways, I'll be awake tonight for you
01:24 Andrea: like you did :p
01:26 YGOkid8: anything else while i tinker with the skin
01:27 Andrea: well, the combos bothers me a bit and that slider thingie after spinner
01:27 Andrea: but for easy I have nothing else to say pratically
01:29 YGOkid8: okay, well i want to keep the combos as is for consistency
01:29 YGOkid8: slider thingie i just really like the position
01:29 Andrea: fix that slider at least please >_<
01:29 YGOkid8: but default bursts disappear nowww :<
01:29 Andrea: well fine :| but I still dislike it though
01:30 YGOkid8: i did try moving up and down a bit
01:30 YGOkid8: but it makes it look like it's supposed to be in the centre
01:30 YGOkid8: but for some reason derped
01:31 Andrea: keep it then if you think it's better
01:31 YGOkid8: i do ~
01:31 YGOkid8: normal?
01:31 Andrea: yep, let's see
01:31 Andrea: oh
01:31 Andrea: did you change OD on easy?
01:32 YGOkid8: yep, -1
01:32 Andrea: now +1 drain on normal
01:32 Andrea: make them consistent here too ^_^
01:32 Andrea: 223 - 445
01:32 Andrea: AR higher by 1 from HP and OD
01:32 YGOkid8: ergh okay
01:32 YGOkid8: just let me test out a bit
01:33 Andrea: yup
01:33 YGOkid8: yeah i can live with hp drain +1
01:33 Andrea: perfect
01:33 YGOkid8: but just fyi
01:33 YGOkid8: unlikely i'll do the same in hard diffs. up though
01:33 Andrea: we'll see :3
01:33 YGOkid8: OD8 in insane + liberty
01:33 YGOkid8: hp drain 8 = no no
01:34 Andrea: oh no, that's another story
01:34 Andrea: anyways
01:34 Andrea: 00:13:603 (3) - Stack this where (1) start is?
01:34 Andrea: plays better to me
01:35 YGOkid8: the reason i put it where it is now is because of vocals
01:35 YGOkid8: the kampf of the nachsten kampf bit in vocals
01:35 Andrea: alright
01:35 YGOkid8: has that really sharp feel to it
01:35 Andrea: 00:28:875 (2,3) - no, this stack has to go, that's a really bad thing for a Normal
01:36 Andrea: stacks on easy or normal are way too hard for beginners to play
01:36 Andrea: please space them like the rest
01:36 Andrea: same goes for the next stacks
01:36 YGOkid8: but
01:36 YGOkid8: this normal is full of stacks
01:36 Andrea: oh god...
01:36 YGOkid8: well my two things about this
01:37 YGOkid8: 1) i like how they play
01:37 YGOkid8: 2) bridges difficulty from easy-normal-hard better
01:37 Andrea: well, since you have easy as easiest, you're somehow safe
01:37 Andrea: but if Normal was the easiest
01:37 Andrea: I wouldn't let this pass
01:37 YGOkid8: then that's a given, yeah
01:38 Andrea: woah Normal is full of stacks indeed
01:39 YGOkid8: easy with occasional 1/2 rhythms, but never hitting a beat on a 1/2
01:39 Andrea: 00:53:256 (2,3,4) - at least do not stacks 3 objects in a row
01:39 Andrea: you always stacked one object, only this one is two object stacked twice
01:39 Andrea: at least consider this one
01:39 Andrea: one object stacked per time is alright, but two...
01:39 YGOkid8: hm
01:39 Andrea: space (2) and (3) normally
01:39 Andrea: then stack (4) on (3)'s end
01:40 Andrea: :-)
01:40 Andrea: fix spacing etc.
01:40 YGOkid8: there's a reason i don't space normally
01:40 YGOkid8: and it's because it looks omg ugly
01:40 YGOkid8: http://puu.sh/4CIwK.jpg
01:40 YGOkid8: that touching
01:40 Andrea: you don't like it, I guess?
01:41 YGOkid8: very don't like
01:41 Andrea: kk
01:41 Andrea: well, this diff is stacks mania
01:41 Andrea: nothing I can say ;~;
01:41 Andrea: but I don't like it tbh :c
01:41 Andrea: Easy was cool
01:42 Andrea: but I dislike stacked Normal...
01:42 Andrea: though it's your style
01:42 Andrea: so I can't say anything :P
01:42 YGOkid8: mm, well again
01:42 YGOkid8: 1) i like
01:42 YGOkid8: 2) difficulty spread
01:42 Andrea: yup, I got your reasoning
01:42 Andrea: I understood :)
01:42 YGOkid8: :>
01:43 Andrea: though you're so damn stubborn mapper xD
01:43 YGOkid8: lol yep
01:43 Andrea: it's hard to make you fix stuff :p
01:43 YGOkid8: because everything has been thought out very carefully
01:43 Andrea: I'll jump on Hard difficulty
01:43 Andrea: yeah I noticed
01:43 Andrea: hp +1 on hard please
01:43 Andrea: 5 is waaaay too low
01:43 Andrea: like seriously <.<
01:43 YGOkid8: pssh
01:43 YGOkid8: testing
01:44 Andrea: okay
01:46 Andrea: is it fine?
01:46 YGOkid8: not sure if i can agree here
01:46 YGOkid8: take the intro for example
01:46 YGOkid8: if you miss like 2 beats
01:46 YGOkid8: it takes a big chunk out of your hp
01:46 YGOkid8: and doesn't really go back up that much
01:46 Andrea: you can keep it if you think it's too much, but this is a Hard remember
01:46 Andrea: don't be too gentle with players :P
01:47 YGOkid8: yeah just let me test a bit more
01:47 Andrea: sure
01:47 Andrea: I'll continue with modding when you're done
01:47 YGOkid8: nah feel free to point out stuff
01:47 YGOkid8: save time
01:47 Andrea: okay then
01:48 Andrea: 00:38:780 (3) - this slider with so many repeats somehow feels boring to me
01:48 Andrea: though I have no idea in what you could change it
01:48 Andrea: 00:39:542 (1,2,3) - can you explain me why spacing isn't consistent here? it looks somehow bad
01:48 Andrea: 00:42:590 (1,2,3) - ^
01:49 Andrea: 00:43:542 (1) - this overlap with the previous circle it's not so nice to see imo ;~; you stacked them before while here you didn't - make it consistent perhaps?
01:49 YGOkid8: okay with the first (3) slider, it has that many repeats for 2 reasons
01:49 YGOkid8: 1) vocal hold
01:50 YGOkid8: 2) it gets harder as you progress to insane / liberty
01:50 YGOkid8: i split it up in liberty
01:50 Andrea: fair enough
01:50 YGOkid8: for the inconsistent spacing, i felt that having it just same distance was too bland
01:50 YGOkid8: music here is very jerky in nature
01:50 Andrea: yup, intense and stuff
01:51 YGOkid8: if it's all the same, it smoothes it out, if that makes sense
01:51 YGOkid8: so increasing / decreasing spacing for that jerkiness
01:51 YGOkid8: i do it in insane / liberty too
01:51 Andrea: got your idea, yup
01:52 YGOkid8: with the overlap, well i just liked the feel
01:52 Andrea: kk
01:53 Andrea: 00:47:161 (1,2,3) - c'mon man, this spacing is way too inconsistent D: it doesn't really flow well either
01:53 Andrea: move (2) down a bit so it flows and plays better
01:53 YGOkid8: it is consistent though xD
01:53 Andrea: though I noticed you did the same later too
01:53 Andrea: >_>"
01:53 YGOkid8: 00:45:637 (1,2) - 1.5x spacing
01:54 YGOkid8: i do 1.5 on the emphasis parts, then 1.25x on the non ones
01:54 Andrea: ah okay
01:54 Andrea: damn you think so much xD
01:54 YGOkid8: 00:49:256 (3,4,5) - only exception, because 1.25 doesn't look or feel very nice
01:54 YGOkid8: yeah of course ;D
01:54 YGOkid8: btw in the end, i can't agree with hp drain +1
01:55 Andrea: 01:12:113 (1,2,3,4) - hmm, could you respace this pattern so (4) ends on the center?
01:55 YGOkid8: like i know it's hard and i can't be too easy on them
01:55 Andrea: would be cooler imo ^^
01:55 Andrea: and sure
01:55 YGOkid8: but once you miss, you have to hit pretty darn accurate so that you don't die
01:55 Andrea: mine are just suggestions
01:55 Andrea: check my last suggestion please :3
01:55 YGOkid8: the 1234 one?
01:55 Andrea: yup
01:55 Andrea: respace it so it's centered
01:56 Andrea: so you can spin in an awesome way~
01:56 YGOkid8: in between 2 and 3 i suppose you mean?
01:56 YGOkid8: or like middle of screen
01:56 Andrea: let me show you an example
01:56 YGOkid8: okay
01:56 Andrea: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008335
01:56 Andrea: same pattern as yours, just respaced so it ends on the center
01:57 YGOkid8: o right
01:57 Andrea: ;3
01:57 Andrea: if you won't fix this I give up
01:57 YGOkid8: lmao, just lemme think
01:57 Andrea: sure
01:57 YGOkid8: cause i thought of something else, but if i apply here, i'll have to apply to insane and liberty as well
01:57 Andrea: why not :D
01:58 Andrea: ending last circle on center and then spinning is amazing <3
01:58 Andrea: anyways, think about it and let me know
01:59 YGOkid8: yeah i can agree with this
01:59 Andrea: yaaay~
01:59 YGOkid8: 01:11:161 (3,1) - some reason, distance spacing stays the same
01:59 YGOkid8: so i'm cool
01:59 Andrea: ~
01:59 YGOkid8: it for this diff?
02:00 Andrea: that's all
02:00 Andrea: Insane let's go?
02:00 YGOkid8: okai
02:00 YGOkid8: yeah
02:00 Andrea: Insane HP7
02:00 Andrea: Hard HP5
02:00 Andrea: I somehow dislike this big jump
02:01 YGOkid8: well to be fair
02:01 YGOkid8: easy hp 2, normal hp 4, hard hp 5 then insane hp 7
02:01 YGOkid8: there's gonna be a jump regardless
02:02 Andrea: 2 4 6 7 8 would be cooler tho :D
02:02 Andrea: 2 4 6 7 7*
02:02 Andrea: my bad
02:02 Andrea: right now you have 2 4 5 7 7
02:04 Andrea: 4 and 5 are so close - Normal and Hard are totally two different things imo!
02:06 YGOkid8: sorry, mum didn't know i was awake lol
02:06 YGOkid8: so she turned off the internet
02:06 Andrea: angry mom? xD
02:06 YGOkid8: http://puu.sh/4CJzA.png - in case you didn't see
02:06 YGOkid8: nah lol
02:06 Andrea: ok I didn't got it before
02:06 Andrea: can I continue my mod?
02:07 YGOkid8: go for it
02:07 Andrea: 00:24:107 (8) - why isn't there a slider but circle?
02:07 Andrea: you used sliders all the way on last note of triplets!
02:07 Andrea: 00:23:343 (4) - ^
02:07 Andrea: etc.
02:07 Andrea: make it consistent?
02:07 YGOkid8: oh andrea, trying to catch me out on some consistency issue
02:08 YGOkid8: 00:24:298 (9) - change in vocals
02:08 YGOkid8: up to this point it was always on white ticks 2 and 4
02:08 YGOkid8: but then it made the switch to 1
02:08 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008356
02:08 Andrea: make it like this then
02:08 Andrea: plays better imo
02:08 YGOkid8: the hitcircle is there because 1) plays better 2) signify change
02:08 Andrea: triangle formation :3
02:09 Andrea: I don't like your current formation
02:09 Andrea: in a short word, move (9) some grids to the left
02:09 Andrea: pretty please? <3
02:09 YGOkid8: up to this point for this section, i don't use perfect triangle formations anywhere
02:09 Andrea: boooo :<
02:09 YGOkid8: so it'd suddenly look weird to have a perfect triangle
02:09 Andrea: you make me sad ;~;
02:10 Andrea: alright alright~
02:10 YGOkid8: lol sorry
02:10 Andrea: 00:33:732 (3) - that might be just me but...
02:10 Andrea: ...this slider looks ugly to me D:
02:11 YGOkid8: i'll admit it's not the prettiest
02:11 YGOkid8: but i do like the flow of it
02:11 Andrea: make it less curved maybe?
02:11 Andrea: on both sides
02:11 YGOkid8: i did try that, but the thing is
02:11 YGOkid8: i need that big a curve lol
02:12 Andrea: hmm k
02:12 YGOkid8: the path
02:12 Andrea: 00:48:304 (4,5) - change these two circles in a slider?
02:12 Andrea: 00:49:256 (3) - perhaps like that
02:12 YGOkid8: 00:46:780 (5) - vs 00:48:304 (4,5) -
02:12 YGOkid8: small differences in vocals
02:12 YGOkid8: mapping them the same = no no
02:12 Andrea: damn you have a fast answer for everything
02:13 Andrea: you're making me feel useless :c
02:13 YGOkid8: lol aw you shouldn't feel useless
02:13 YGOkid8: i've just, as you know, thought things out very thoroughly
02:13 Andrea: yeah ;_;
02:13 Andrea: 01:09:066 (5,6) - this antijump feels too close
02:14 Andrea: make distance of (6) same from (5) and (7)?
02:14 Andrea: let me show you a picture
02:14 Andrea: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008363 ?
02:14 Andrea: your flow will be good too like this
02:14 Andrea: and spacing consistent
02:14 Andrea: both things \:D/
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:113 (5,1,2) -
02:15 YGOkid8: same spacing as here
02:15 Andrea: @.@
02:15 YGOkid8: selected wrong notes, sec
02:15 Andrea: I thought so
02:15 YGOkid8: heck you get the idea
02:15 Andrea: I was like... wut?
02:15 Andrea: yeah I did
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:113 (5,1) -
02:15 YGOkid8: 00:40:875 (2) - this is special to this section
02:15 YGOkid8: since the chorus doesn't have it
02:16 YGOkid8: that's why in the chorus, it has a less intense jump there
02:16 Andrea: 01:09:828 (7) - make the NC start here?
02:16 Andrea: and not on (1)
02:17 YGOkid8: again, it's how i've combo'd my whole map :/
02:17 Andrea: I hate you QAQ
02:17 Andrea: xD
02:17 YGOkid8: and i really am a nc on big white tick guy
02:17 YGOkid8: lol hey, you got me to move a formation in hard
02:17 YGOkid8: that's pretty impressive
02:17 Andrea: haha
02:17 Andrea: did you do same on Insane already?
02:17 Andrea: 01:12:113 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^
02:18 YGOkid8: nah, i like this one as it is
02:18 Andrea: alright
02:18 Andrea: 01:25:828 (4) - shouldn't the new combo be here btw?
02:18 Andrea: and not on next circle
02:18 Andrea: the triangle pattern begins here, also rhythm changes here
02:18 YGOkid8: spacing change is on the next circle
02:19 Andrea: 01:25:828 (1,2,3) - on Hard you did like this though
02:19 Andrea: 3 notes triangled
02:19 Andrea: why not the same here?
02:20 YGOkid8: it's the jerkiness thing i mentioned earlier
02:20 YGOkid8: if i did different spacing in hard
02:20 YGOkid8: it just looks very messy
02:20 Andrea: indeed lol
02:20 Andrea: well, I have nothing else to point on Insane
02:20 Andrea: let's go to.... well...... Liberty diff
02:20 YGOkid8: (y)
02:21 YGOkid8: yeah
02:21 YGOkid8: you will have much trouble convincing me of rhythm changes here lol
02:21 Andrea: 00:13:603 (1) - why single combo here?
02:21 Andrea: you didn't used any single combo on other diffs
02:22 YGOkid8: yep, but that's because in the other diffs.
02:22 YGOkid8: i nc'd every 8 white ticks
02:22 YGOkid8: here i nc every 4
02:22 YGOkid8: or every big white one
02:22 Andrea: 00:24:298 (1) - ^ same here I guess?
02:22 YGOkid8: yeah
02:23 YGOkid8: 00:26:780 (1) - nc here is for jump + long ass stream
02:24 Andrea: I see
02:24 Andrea: 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - I still think this is too large
02:25 Andrea: and too cruel
02:25 Andrea: let me provide you an example
02:25 Andrea: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1008376
02:25 Andrea: 1,80x maybe?
02:25 Andrea: also look how I made it
02:26 YGOkid8: 01:25:256 (1,5) - music have big emphasis on these two
02:26 YGOkid8: 01:25:447 (2,3,4) - less jerky movement here = less emphasis
02:27 YGOkid8: 01:25:637 (4,5) - hence nice jerk here
02:28 Andrea: in a short word you want to keep it like that?
02:28 YGOkid8: pretty much
02:28 YGOkid8: wasn't exactly easy changin that square i had to this
02:29 YGOkid8: and i'm quite happy with how this turned out as well
02:29 Andrea: hm, I see
02:29 Andrea: well, I have nothing else to say
02:29 Andrea: hey, I tried a lot though.
02:29 Andrea: hope you appreciated
02:30 YGOkid8: of course, i always appreciate
02:30 Andrea: but it's really hard to make you change stuff :V
02:30 Andrea: in a short word what are you going to change?
02:30 Andrea: od on easy, hp on normal, skin files, pattern on hard
02:30 Andrea: what else?
02:30 YGOkid8: hm
02:31 YGOkid8: that's it
02:31 YGOkid8: lol
02:31 Andrea: hey I made you change 4 things
02:31 Andrea: I'm the best.
02:31 Andrea: I can feel proud of myself
Topic Starter
YGOkid8
did tiny, minute changes, which are:
  1. Reduce Easy OD by 1.
  2. Increase Normal HP Drain by 1.
  3. Small movement shift in Hard.
  4. Tinkering with approachcircle.png and reversearrow.png to avoid possible trouble.
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Okay, it's time to attack the titans now!

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