nope
updated
updated
Yes, the ranking criteria doesn't clear state that 1/6 finishes are banned, but I guess it includes this meaning, as the rule is made for maintaining reasonable gameplay.Taiko Ranking Criteria wrote:
Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream. At the end, finish streams may be allowed if there is a reasonable sound for it and follow one of the following patterns: xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
There we go http://puu.sh/3fzC0.osuaabc271 wrote:
[Loctav's Oni]
• 01:00:868 ( 161~166 ) - Considering the high BPM (224), I discourage the use of 1/6 finish here. This is not easy to hit correctly even for high-level players, and it could have some problems on rankability. hm, yeh. Looked ugly anyways.Yes, the ranking criteria doesn't clear state that 1/6 finishes are banned, but I guess it includes this meaning, as the rule is made for maintaining reasonable gameplay.Taiko Ranking Criteria wrote:
Finish notes must not be in the middle or at the beginning in a 1/4 or above stream. At the end, finish streams may be allowed if there is a reasonable sound for it and follow one of the following patterns: xxxxxxxxO, xxxxooooX, xxooxxooX
• 02:05:422 ( 730~794 ) - Are you sure you want 65-plets here? This seems to be extremely intense and raises the difficulty one level higher remapped this part. the ending was lame, anyways.Suggested patternsHere are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.
01:04:350 ( 189~199 ) - Try this ? ( Based on what you mapped at 167~188, I guess you're trying to fit the pitch of music. If so you can consider this hitsound arrangement which fits this mapping style ) nice one! fixed.
Well, I guess I can't find more to mod. I can see most parts are totally based on drums / background hits so I can't change much.
I guess this map is ok overall ?
Just saying maybe the use of 1/4 finish is too frequent, making it very difficult to hit them correctly yeh, but that's also what makes the map a bit more special I think o:
imo this is more like an inner oni ( while the current muzu is oni ) Names are just names. This beatmap has 224bpm. That's the only reason it appears so hard. Actually the patterns in this Oni are quite "common" in other Onis too, just that other songs are generally slower. Same goes for Muzukashii (the Muzu only uses 1/2 iirc, which is quite simple).
Thx for modding ^^aabc271 wrote:
As requested by Pagliaccio, I'm coming for a Taiko mod ~
Let's go :3
Blue~ Critical issues. You must fix this
Purple~ It's better to fix this
Pink~ Suggestions only. Change only if you want to
Grey~ Explanations of my suggestions
[Zukisinx's Muzukashii]
• 00:56:850 ( 267 ) - It's better not to include too many 1/2 finishes as they can be very hard for players at muzu level. As this finish is not that necessary, I'd suggest removing it. ( This finish doesn't really have an important role on map structure or music representation, so it's not a must to be there imo ) ok :3
• 00:27:922 ( 130~146 ) - I'm not sure if muzu level players can hit d D at BPM 224 correctly in rows. Better find some testplayers to find out. If not, it's better to reduce some finishes. I don't think its so hard..
• 00:34:350 ( 150~160 ) - This is a long 1/2 section which can be hard for muzu level players. You can consider deleting 153 & 157 so that this section becomes kkk kkk kkd, which is more similar to other parts of your diff. ok :3
[box=Suggested patterns]Here are the minor suggestions of patterns / hitsounds. It's your own choice whether to follow these suggestions.
00:03:547 ( 9~17 ) - Try this ? ( This fits the instrument pitch better ) ok :3
01:07:565 ( 37~48 ) - Following exactly what do you did at 25~36 could be a good idea. If you decide to change, delete 01:09:573 (48) as well. ( The tone and rhythm repeat. So using same pattern can show the song's structure better )ok :3mingmichael wrote:
hey Sieg here the mod that you requested to me
[Zukisinx's Muzukashii]ok :3
- 00:03:814 (11,12,13) - how about d d k there ok :3(the previous modder said the same thing)
- 00:29:797 (137) - k? just ignore this if you want to use "d" pattern ok :3
- 00:37:698 (169,170) - d k. you used k d before. that's not really fit well, because the notes (166~170) are d k d k d. give a variation note there. so it'll be d k d d k I dont like how it sounds.
- 00:38:368 (172,173,174) - you used d k d. hmmm not really fit well too D: try k d k ok :3
01:03:011 (15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - hmmm, your patterns are too messy there. try with this K D K D K D K D I dont like how it sounds.- 01:09:172 (46) - d. but if you put k is not problem too I dont like how it sounds.
- 01:10:912 (56,57) - like 00:37:698 (169,170) - if you use my mod before I dont like how it sounds.
- 01:11:582 (59,60,61) - like 00:38:368 (172,173,174) - if you use my mod beforeok :3
- 01:19:484 (9,10) - like 00:37:698 (169,170) - if you use my mod before I dont like how it sounds.
- 01:20:154 (12,13,14) - like 00:38:368 (172,173,174) - if you use my mod beforeok :3
- the spinner ends here 01:26:582 (1) - ok :3
- the spinner ends here 01:43:725 (1) - ok :3
- 01:48:948 (29,30,31) - d k k is better than k d dok :3
- the spinner ends here 01:52:297 (1) -
Thank you, Roxas :3 (waiting your mods for SC)Roxas wrote:
Random mania mod. Hi Sieg
[NM]
00:17:609 (17609|3) - This should start 00:17:743 - here Done.
00:25:779 (25779|5,25913|4,26047|1,26181|2) - Change this, it's too hard imo Hm...this isn't really difficultoh really, done.
00:27:118 (27118|5,27118|1,27386|1,27386|5,27654|5,27654|1,27922|4,27922|2) - Remove Can't remove - all notes are played in the beat (but I delete some circles so now it's easy to play)
00:27:922 - Add circle in 4th column Done.
00:35:288 (35288|2,35288|4) - They should start 00:35:422 - here, move those holds and add a circle 00:35:288 - here (4th or 5th column is okay) Got it.
00:44:194 (44194|2) - Move in 2nd column Done.
00:44:194 (44194|4) - Move in 6th column Done.
00:48:279 - Here I'd prefer a patter like this, 3 circles doesn't fit well But it's a good expression of the beat in this part (btw Done)
00:51:493 (51493|5,51627|1,51761|4,51895|2,52565|1,52698|2) - Again, I think this type of pattern with different holds start is hard Maybe (removed and replaced some sliders)
01:21:225 (81225|1) - Move in 6th column Done.
01:42:922 - Add circle Done.
Muzkukashii OP http://puu.sh/3wfzL.osuDolphin wrote:
Taiko Mod from my queue!
Normal text are suggestions, Bold text is something you should really fix.
[General][Zukisinx's Muzkukashii]
- Incosistent Kiai Times (Go-Go Time)
Muzukashii:
Oni:
^ about this,i think the kiai's in my muzu are good,i placed them on every part where screams and all those things start sounding,i want to know what loctav thinks about it
Also Muzukashii has higher star rating than Oni. Try to fix that by just lowering AR and CS. It won't affect the map at all.
- OD4, since Muzukashii? Muzukashii maps usually have larger hit windows than Oni. k
00:05:823 - add a don here, the pattern and sound feels empty and incomplete without it. k
00:13:457 (57) - k, because of the snare sound, and to keep a consistent pattern. meh i think its good as d
Good Map! thx ^^
I hope I was helpful! of course you was ^^
My own fixes:Roxas wrote:
[SC]
01:17:743 - Add 2 or 3 whistles - Added / Done.
01:42:855 (102855|2,102922|2) - Mmmmh 1/4 jackhammer at 224 bpm is hard imo Done.
No change. Thanks anyways. <3Dolphin wrote:
[General][Loctav's Oni]
- Incosistent Kiai Times (Go-Go Time)
Muzukashii:
Oni:
My Kiai is placed on the most intense part of the song, which is also the most intensely mapped one. I recommend to place the kiai only there to underline this outstanding part of this song. Compared to all other diffs, all Kiai times are actually inconsistent, yet I like my placement the most (compared to the Muzu and to the Mania diffs - not to mention the standard diffs, that have no kiai at all)
Also Muzukashii has higher star rating than Oni. Try to fix that by just lowering AR and CS. It won't affect the map at all. this is unneeded.I hope I was helpful! Well, you only mentioned stuff as unrankable that is rankable.
- OD5, on Oni, all song setup settings should be in the middle. whoever told you that, lied. Refused.
00:09:707 (68) - what.. A stream that ends with a finisher? These are okay for ddkk players but I can see why kddk players hate them. Either remove the finish, or if you want to keep the finish, remove the note before the finisher. You really shouldn't use finishers in or at the end of a stream.. it's rankable. Please refer to the Taiko Ranking Criteria
00:10:511 (73) - Remove this. There is nothing musically that calls for a finisher here.. there is?
00:12:922 (94) - Finisher at the end of a stream. Same explanation. read above.
00:15:065 (118) - ^ ^
00:17:475 (140,141,142,143) - The BPM for this map is high, I think you could change this into a 1/4 ddk instead. 1/6 dddd is just overkill, and could be looked upon as overmapping. I can easily play that? It's not really overmapped, neither it is overkill
00:18:279 (152) - Finisher at the end of a stream, same explanation. read above
00:21:493 (175) - ^ ^
00:23:636 (199) - ^ this one is even worse, since you don't have a consisent stream pattern like ooooox or oooxxxo ^
00:25:779 (223) - finisher at the end of a stream. ^
00:26:047 (225,226,227,228) - 1/6 overkill. try changing into kkd or ddk 1/4 read above.
00:26:850 (236) - Finisher ending a stream. ^
00:35:957 (313) - ^ ^
00:39:707 (343) - ^ ^
00:42:922 (373) - ^ ^
00:43:993 (384) - ^ ^
01:01:136 (165) - ^ ^
01:05:422 (198) - ^ this one is very bad due to it being a very short stream that is ddkkD pattern. This is most likely unrankable. ^still not unrankable
01:09:707 (236) - Stream ended by finisher. ^
01:15:064 (288) - ^ ^
01:17:742 (318) - ^ although I think it should rather end with k since it's very high pitch. ^ it's a don to make it rankable
01:26:850 (399) - Stream ended by finisher. still rankable.
01:35:422 (465) - ^ + very short stream. doesn't make it less rankable.
01:39:707 (499) - ^ ^
Thank you for your mods, YunoFanatic :3YunoFanatic wrote:
Shira's Light Piano~!
stop using double notes (double time like a note then followed by a close note -_- makes even harder..) - Understand you but...sorry, I disagree. Those patterns are equal o2jam patterns, so that's right way to place notes.
Unreasonable spacing everywhere please try to follow the flow! too many cant point that many -_- - ^ same problem. For many o!m players those patterns are more difficult and unusual, but this [NM] equal to Normal 15 lvl song in o2jam, so that's right spacing.
Kiai time not in time.. you can add one in here too! 00:50:422 and end it in here 01:00:065 - Added / Done.
Negatives:
00:18:815 (1) (4) (7) add finish here much better with finish than an random hitsound - Got it / Done.
00:47:609 rythm pls follow no more holder in here and add notes - Sliders replaced with notes.
01:52:565 ok adjust your kiai time until 02:09:707 looks good though! - If you mean to extend kiai, it was done. (think I understood you)
http://puu.sh/3yZYx.osuCoroQuetz wrote:
[Loctav's Oni]
00:26:448 (230) - use k? imo starting the k stream with a k sounds better since the single d hit sounds weird unfortunately I can't agree here. The don follows the music
01:31:136 (431,435,439,443,447,451,455,459) - use D? The bass hit is really too loud to be ignored so I think it would be better to go with D adjusted the entire section to this suggestion
wow dat difficulty ._. lol yeah
fixed everything: http://puu.sh/3FanN.osuMMzz wrote:
[Loctav's Oni]
00:17:609 (143) - k? As weird as it might sound, dddk plays more smoothly and maintains flow better than dddd, especially at high BPM's like this.
00:24:707 (207,208,209,210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222,223) - Changing the notes around to http://puu.sh/3F4Jj.jpg feels much more natural. Then opens up the chance to make 00:25:779 (223,224,225,226,227,228) - resemble the music more, by making it this: http://puu.sh/3F4KR.jpg The two kats resembling the high pitch snares that are pretty powerful at the end of that stream, then the dddk maintaining the flow. Overall it feels much nicer and is a bit more consistent with the other 1/6 pattern area. End result should be this: http://puu.sh/3F4Mv.jpg
00:53:100 (95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102) - This isn't snapped to the music at all. Slow it down and listen you will notice that it is some crazy 1/4 1/6 piano roll. You need to adjust this roll to the music properly. I guess making it straight 1/4 could work, but still weird.
Fun diff though.
Thank you for your mods :3Paulmrm wrote:
00:29:529 - Imo this pattern feels a bit better that way - Oh yeah, thanks for this.
00:35:288 - Add a note here? Perhaps delete 00:35:422 (35422|3) - and add a note in the 4th column. - Re-edited.
01:17:542 - The pattern should end at 01:17:743 - Rearranging the pattern would be nice. - Done.
02:01:136 - Maybe you could change the pattern every 2 or 4 beats? This would add some spice to this part, since the patterning looks a bit random. This counts for SC too. - Nope, those patterns aren't random, it's comfortable to play between left and right hand / btw [NM] pattern has been re-edited / for [SC] there is no changes
Also, diffs have been renamed.woc2006 wrote:
mania mod
NM
======
HP: 6 OD: 6
cut notes by 10%, like 00:33:279 -, 00:40:243 -, 01:43:993 - to 01:50:442 -, 02:00:065 - they are much harder than normal -All done.
SC
======
consider OD 6 for o2 style - Thanks, done.
I dont really want to modify the SV but let's see if anyone thinks it should be 1.20 and i will change it.MMzz wrote:
[Muzukashii]
I found nothing wrong, or anything that sticks out as weird, but, I think you should make the SV1.20 for this diff. The scroll speed of 224 is really fast even for a Muzukashii level, and since you use no 1/4 it would be a benefit to the players this difficulty is aimed at.
Thanks for great mod and support!inverness wrote:
I like good mappers, good maps, and good efforts. I respectfully appreciate them.
:3
GeneralNormal
- Change title text color to (64,0,0) for Artist and (60,12,0) for Title. White color for title text here is just unpleasant.
yep yep, I'll ask for this- Reduce lead in to 1.5? 2 is just weird for me
not a big deal really, i prefer to leave this as it- 01:26:850 - 01:31:136 - If you add break here, players would surely appreciate it because it's almost no breaks at all here
there is little breaks somewhere nearInsane
- Tick rate 2 is just meh, also since they are not really audible they're like did nothing but giving more scores when playing. This is just weird o-o use 1 instead maybe?
changed- HP +1 for more balanced diff setting
yep- 00:06:493 (1) - To make a balanced straight-turned slider, make sure you put the second red dot right above the slider tick like http://puu.sh/3RK1p.jpg or if there's no tick make sure the straight-turn point is covered by the sliderball perfectly like http://puu.sh/3RK2s.jpg. Yours here looks like this http://puu.sh/3RK31.jpg and it just looks weird.
done- 00:13:993 (2,2) - Imperfect blanket.
tuned a little- 00:35:957 (3) - Add whistle-slide sound here to match the scream on background? You know what do I mean by whistle-slide right.
good idea- 00:38:636 (1) - Remove NC? 2 notes on previous pattern is too few
removed- 01:09:975 (2) - End this slider on 01:10:779 - and add circle on next white tick?
yep- 01:20:690 - You can add note here, actually.
prefer to leave this empty- 01:22:565 (1) - Bad : - ( How about something like this instead http://puu.sh/3RKgG.jpg ? I can provide code if you want.
I've fixed a bit my slider- 02:02:207 (1,2) - A little bit imperfect blanket.
tunedStarred. Good luck.
- 00:13:190 (3,4) - These stack somehow breaks flow ;~;
intended- 00:13:591 (5,6) - ^
intended- 00:27:922 (1,2,3) - Apply manual stack please
yep- 00:41:850 (1,2) - If you could convert these into slider, it'll flow better I suppose.
- 00:42:252 (4,5) - ^
indeed- 00:53:100 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - I love you.
:3- 01:10:779 (1) - Weird shape ;~; how about http://puu.sh/3RKMe.jpg
classic- 01:23:100 (3) - Curve is not good enough. If you want to make it better, try placing a dummy note and blanket it with the curve, and delete the dummy note.
- 01:24:707 (1) - Not good curve either. Try above tips.
- 01:25:243 (3) - Why would you add another red dot on the end? Remove the second red dot, it's unnecessary. Also apply the above tips to make the curve unruined.
they not supposed to be good curves- 01:35:823 (2,3,4,5,6) - These flows really weird o-o Could you please make more structured and more visible pattern?
- 01:37:966 (2,3,4,5,6) - Another weird flow ;__;
- 01:46:940 (4) - If you copypaste from 01:46:136 (1) - and ctrl+H it would surely way much better and it wouldn't broke the symmetry at all
yep
sacchann wrote:
Zukisinx's Muzukashi
- add K at 00:32:073. it fits a lot with the previous K Ok
- change the KDK into KKD at 00:38:368? sounds better imo Ok
- imo KKDDk sounds good rather than KKKDK at 00:52:565 Did'nt understanded this D:
- prefer DKK at 00:58:451 since it sounds kinda flow well with the previous DDk
- KDD at 01:17:207 sounds better Ok ,but kkd
overall i like how you set tge pattern >w< thx
was too melted because of seeing the streams in insane diff ://////; so i think thats all for now >w<
goodluck yeyey <3 brb playing that insane again asdghjkl get ranked pls dear funfunmap amg. gotta get a BAT here to rank this ;////////; YEAH GET THIS RANKED ;_;
My non-screaming screamer avatar? lolSieg wrote:
alright, thanks
btw kazukisinx your avatar always scares me :\
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380,156,125556,6,0,P|353:148|333:124,3,59.9999981689454,0|2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,120,126091,2,0,P|268:140|260:166,3,59.9999981689454,0|2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,204,126627,2,0,P|272:230|248:250,3,59.9999981689454,0|2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,256,127163,2,0,P|181:248|161:224,3,59.9999981689454,0|2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,184,127698,6,0,P|152:160|125:152,3,59.9999981689454,0|2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,184,128234,2,0,P|69:176|49:152,3,59.9999981689454,0|2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
52,116,128770,5,0,0:0:0:0:
72,88,128904,1,2,0:0:0:0:
108,80,129038,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,88,129172,1,2,0:0:0:0:
164,116,129306,1,0,0:0:0:0:
156,152,129440,2,0,L|176:180,3,29.9999990844727,2|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
189,201,129707,5,4,0:0:0:0:
good catch :3popner wrote:
00:30:600 (1,2) - the rhythms(the start and end positon of sliders) in Insane and Pagli's Sonata are different. You need to make them consistent.
Ok.popner wrote:
Sorry, forgot that 00:31:102 (1,2,3) - in Pagli's Sonata - move 1/8 tick later
Consider OD7 - what woc said it's true its like 'o2style' but most LNs/Holds are 1/2 ( are not 1/4 : 1/2 hold still can get high accuracy) and they're also mixed with iidx style too i guess. for example Roxas' guest diff , its ranked and also got 1/4 short hold streams. ( if bpm high doesn't matter )woc2006 wrote:
mania mod
consider OD 6 for o2 style
Thank you, ExPew.ExPew wrote:
Changed OD to 7
00:59:797 - add hold on 3? end on 01:00:065 - Hm...seems interesting, done.
00:36:493 (36493|3) - this LN too weird here should be end here 00:36:761 - Remodelled this / done.
Thank you, ljqandylee :3ljqandylee wrote:
[Shi-Ra's Light Piano NM]
00:56:315 (56315|4) - Change to an individual note at 00:56:448 - Done.
00:56:582 (56582|2) - Change to an individual note at 00:56:716 - Remodelled.
[Shi-Ra's Hell SC]
00:43:993 (43993|0) - End at 00:44:194 00:43:993 (43993|6) - End at 00:44:529 - Both done.
00:53:301 (53301|3) - Delete, and add notes on 00:53:279 and 00:53:323 (use 1/6 divisor) to fit piano - Remodelled.
01:08:636 - The piano here is a bit complex, but I still hope you could try following it - Oh...isn't it too easy? Well, done.
01:36:158 (96158|1) - Move to 01:36:091 - Done.
01:42:855 - Add a note - Added.
02:01:069 - Add a note at 4 - Added.
Sorry that I'm on a business trip for a week till 3rd Oct. so I can't recheck the map at this moment, but from your reply, I wanna confirm if you noticed that it's 1/12 divisor XD[Shi-Ra] wrote:
ljqandylee wrote:
[Shi-Ra's Hell SC]
01:08:636 - The piano here is a bit complex, but I still hope you could try following it - Oh...isn't it too easy? Well, done.
Oh this, I understood. I remodel this and some next piano-following parts using 1/6 divisor and ofc I confirm that to check this I used 1/12 divisor.ljqandylee wrote:
Sorry that I'm on a business trip for a week till 3rd Oct. so I can't recheck the map at this moment, but from your reply, I wanna confirm if you noticed that it's 1/12 divisor XD