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Renard - Rainbow Dash Likes Girls (Stay Gay Pony Girl) [Appr

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ztrot
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, September 10, 2012 at 5:12:44 PM

Artist: Renard
Title: Rainbow Dash Likes Girls (Stay Gay Pony Girl)
Source: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
Tags: MMzz Blue Dragon lapfox Taiko
BPM: 220
Filesize: 5068kb
Play Time: 03:11
Difficulties Available:
  1. Holy Shit! It's Rainbow Dash!! (5 stars, 877 notes)
  2. MM's Taiko Poni (4.94 stars, 1199 notes)
Download: Renard - Rainbow Dash Likes Girls (Stay Gay Pony Girl)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is the map me and Blue Dragon worked on for some time he has mostly given up on it but I think with a bit of work we can get this thing approved!

Taiko added and fixes all around.

more fixes
Sync
nice
Mismagius
ggogogogogogogogog
Kawayi Rika
Fight ztrot >< star*5
Topic Starter
ztrot
thanks rika >w<
Stefan
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh
Sync
pointed out some things on vent, specifically these few patterns:
01:50:822 (1) ~ 01:53:959 (4) - required too much movement for it to be a plausible pattern
02:51:095 (1) ~ 02:51:913 (7) - unreadable and impossible to follow; suggested an "S" shape pattern and he did something cool with it
crabovan
Hey ztrot and Blue Dragon!

00:13:185 (3,4,5,3) - Looks like a overlap (for me). Maybe you remap this little part?
00:24:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Move this to the center of map and remap with perfect symmetry {if you want ofc).
00:59:958 (4) - Maybe better do something like this? Same with other similar sliders 01:00:641 (6,8,9), if you accept this proposal.
01:34:185 (3) - Move to x:100 y:352.
01:48:776 (1) - Maybe delete NC?
02:20:345 (1,1) - I think what it's TOO HARD. Maybe short this jump?
02:41:004 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - IMO better make symmetrical trapezoid.
02:50:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I know what this mapped with symmetry, but maybe better remap with perfect symmetry?
03:03:776 (2,3,4) - You can remap this with 0.00x DS for better look.

Good luck with approval. :3
Also, rate, please, this mod around ten-points scale.
Mismagius

crabovan wrote:

Hey ztrot and Blue Dragon!

00:13:185 (3,4,5,3) - Looks like a overlap (for me). Maybe you remap this little part? didn't really understand this one
00:59:958 (4) - Maybe better do something like this? Same with other similar sliders 01:00:641 (6,8,9), if you accept this proposal. go ahead ztrot
01:48:776 (1) - Maybe delete NC? delete the NC and add to the previous note
02:41:004 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - IMO better make symmetrical trapezoid. important note to ztrot: ctrl+r (2,3) in all of these squares and fix hitsounds. the way it is right now was meant to be for ar10, but doesn't play well in ar9

Good luck with approval. :3
Also, rate, please, this mod around ten-points scale.

yes i'm stalking the map

but feel free to make any changes when i'm not here :)

also, 02:08:276 (1) - needs some very small scaling just to not make it go offscreen (0.985x is perfect)
Topic Starter
ztrot

crabovan wrote:

Hey ztrot and Blue Dragon!

00:13:185 (3,4,5,3) - Looks like a overlap (for me). Maybe you remap this little part?
00:24:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Move this to the center of map and remap with perfect symmetry {if you want ofc).
00:59:958 (4) - Maybe better do something like this? Same with other similar sliders 01:00:641 (6,8,9), if you accept this proposal.
01:34:185 (3) - Move to x:100 y:352.
01:48:776 (1) - Maybe delete NC?
02:20:345 (1,1) - I think what it's TOO HARD. Maybe short this jump?
02:41:004 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - IMO better make symmetrical trapezoid.
02:50:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I know what this mapped with symmetry, but maybe better remap with perfect symmetry?
03:03:776 (2,3,4) - You can remap this with 0.00x DS for better look.

Good luck with approval. :3
Also, rate, please, this mod around ten-points scale.
used most of it you could be a bit more detailed in some points but good none the less I would say 7.5 out of 10 that isn't as bad as you thing either about avg good job
Malinen
Cute ponies, cool map, an experienced mapper.
I'm a beginner modder, and I can add only a

01:02:140 - add combo?
TheVileOne
ztrot would be the one to save this map from the grave.
Topic Starter
ztrot
you know it :P
Cristian
y u no have taiko on this? D:
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
o.o?
Topic Starter
ztrot
Taiko added lets ROCK!
grumd
SPOILER
12:05 grumd: : 00:24:231 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - try to use polygon circles here, because this is a bit off
12:08 grumd: : 00:28:049 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - hm, i feel that placing the second triple at the next white tick sound better
12:08 grumd: : http://puu.sh/YD0E
12:08 grumd: : like this
12:13 ztrot: : hmm
12:13 ztrot: : hold on
12:15 grumd: : 00:28:595 (1,2,3,4) - also i wish you could get rid of upbeat sliders (watch the timeline) and add a bit variety to
12:15 grumd: : sliders http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/412808
12:18 grumd: : 02:33:776 (9) - btw unrankable.
12:19 grumd: : Slider anchors/nodes must not be used to manipulate slider speeds
12:20 ztrot: : no it isn't
12:20 grumd: : it is :v
12:20 ztrot: : that is the personal view of some staff members
12:20 ztrot: : I use them all the time
12:20 ztrot: : even charles uses them
12:20 grumd: : that that makes no sense in that place
12:20 grumd: : *but that
12:20 ztrot: : slow down ;~;
12:21 grumd: : no, really ._.
12:21 ztrot: : I'm still trying to fix other things btw
12:21 grumd: : kk
12:21 ztrot: : I will get to it I'm not sure what parts you are talking about yet
12:21 grumd: : eh, i'm providing timelinks, no?
12:21 ztrot: : yeah
12:22 ztrot: : but I'm skimming trying to make fixes
12:23 grumd: : 02:12:640- from here
12:23 grumd: : 03:05:004- to here
12:23 grumd: : it needs a lot of improvement imo
12:23 grumd: : you just use everywhere symemtrical jumps all over the playfield
12:23 grumd: : but it was nice to move the player into one part of a screen to do a bit of jumps, then into another..
12:23 grumd: : like
12:24 grumd: : 00:08:276 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
12:24 grumd: : some jumps in the left, some in the right
12:24 grumd: : just adding a bit of similar patterns in the end would improve it a lot
12:25 grumd: : you just focus too much on symmetry about the center of the playfield, this turns out in too overmapped and
12:25 grumd: : kinda boring patterns
12:26 grumd: : 02:32:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - parts like this are ridiculous, really... it needs to be redone.
12:27 grumd: : 02:41:004 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - this too, can be done it far better ways
12:27 grumd: : 02:48:095 - and from here
12:27 grumd: : 02:51:913 - to here
12:28 ztrot: : oh you do know the point is to be really hard to play right
12:28 grumd: : it's just my opinion, and i highy suggest to find a bit of inspiration again and try to make it variated and NOT
12:28 grumd: : ONLY symmetrical over th center
12:29 ztrot: : but symmetrical is my thing :<
12:29 grumd: : you can make it symmetrical, but move to the left or to the right and then add the same pattern on the other side
12:29 grumd: : just don't focus on the center please
12:29 grumd: : that will make it far more enjoyable :s
12:30 grumd: : and i never look at difficulty here, because i can't play it anyway
12:30 grumd: : i just think about it in an esthetic way
12:30 grumd: : 02:51:435 (8) - move this to the center (256;192)
12:30 grumd: : 02:51:367 (7) - this two grids down
12:31 grumd: : oh wait, it's totally not symmetrical..
12:31 grumd: : then just redo a bit this stream too, okay?
12:32 grumd: : that's my point, i think i can't suggest anything else
12:39 ztrot: : hmm
12:39 ztrot: : well I'm making some changes
12:40 grumd: : good to hear :3
12:44 ztrot: : make sure to post this irc log for kds
12:44 ztrot: : plox
12:45 ztrot: : not sure if you are gonna like my changes tho
12:45 ztrot: : I wanted to keep most the the end the same the start got a bit of a face lift tho
12:45 grumd: : you think it was helpful? meh. dunno if i deserve that kd
12:46 ztrot: : yes it was
12:46 ztrot: : http://puu.sh/YDlX
12:46 ztrot: : that pattern wasn't even there till just now
12:48 grumd: : (3) must be moved a bit down
12:49 grumd: : it's too close to center now
12:50 ztrot: : done
12:50 ztrot: : I can't update till you post tho
12:50 ztrot: : kinda one of my personal things
12:50 ztrot: : I like all changes to be logged
12:50 grumd: : well k
Zare
^ Pro Mod by pro mapper.

Just what came into my mind while playing (with no fail of course... orz)

[Holy Shit! It's Rainbow Dash!!]

All of the following circles are (partially) under the healthbar.

00:08:685 (4) -
00:34:185 (7,8,9,10,1) -
01:13:731 (1,2,5) -
01:26:004 (1) -
01:46:731 (1) -
02:08:276 (1) - I think it's okay with this, tho
02:22:185 (3) -
02:23:549 (8) -
02:26:004 (2) -
02:29:549 (3) -
02:56:685 (2) -
02:57:504 (1) -
03:01:868 (2,4) -
03:06:776 (9) -
03:09:367 (1) -
03:11:004 (1) -


00:38:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - bad shape, use polygon circles
00:39:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same here
01:11:822 (1,2,3,4,5) - feels VERY weird, maybe another shape?
01:21:776 (1,2,3) - I don't really understand those. Why 1/1 beats here? There's nothing in the song that implies to stop using 1/2, therefore it's confusing as hell to play (The fact that I can say that without being able to play that map anyways speaks for itself)
01:27:776 (1,2,3) - same here
02:24:095 (1,2,3,4,5) - D: ....If the spacing would at least stay consistent, but I think that's kinda part of the challenge

edit: Oh lol, i forgot the most important thing.

Have you thought about AR10? With AR9 it feels like there are circles all over the place, which is ...very...confusing. Also, the players that manage to pass THESE jumps should also be able to read AR10, so that wouldn't be a problem IMO..

This map...It's for jumps, what freedom dive is for streams....

Awesome work lol
Topic Starter
ztrot

Zarerion wrote:

^ Pro Mod by pro mapper.

Just what came into my mind while playing (with no fail of course... orz)

[Holy Shit! It's Rainbow Dash!!]

All of the following circles are (partially) under the healthbar.

00:08:685 (4) -
00:34:185 (7,8,9,10,1) -
01:13:731 (1,2,5) -
01:26:004 (1) -
01:46:731 (1) -
02:08:276 (1) - I think it's okay with this, tho
02:22:185 (3) -
02:23:549 (8) -
02:26:004 (2) -
02:29:549 (3) -
02:56:685 (2) -
02:57:504 (1) -
03:01:868 (2,4) -
03:06:776 (9) -
03:09:367 (1) -
03:11:004 (1) -

Health bar touches are not unrankable and are a matter of preference.

00:38:958 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - bad shape, use polygon circles This shape is okay
00:39:913 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same here ^
01:11:822 (1,2,3,4,5) - feels VERY weird, maybe another shape? Nah it gives the feel he was going for.
01:21:776 (1,2,3) - I don't really understand those. Why 1/1 beats here? There's nothing in the song that implies to stop using 1/2, therefore it's confusing as hell to play (The fact that I can say that without being able to play that map anyways speaks for itself) Uhh Clear the Ground all 1/1 lyrics
01:27:776 (1,2,3) - same here Same deal lyrics
02:24:095 (1,2,3,4,5) - D: ....If the spacing would at least stay consistent, but I think that's kinda part of the challenge

edit: Oh lol, i forgot the most important thing.

Have you thought about AR10? With AR9 it feels like there are circles all over the place, which is ...very...confusing. Also, the players that manage to pass THESE jumps should also be able to read AR10, so that wouldn't be a problem IMO..

This map...It's for jumps, what freedom dive is for streams....

I have been thinking about going ar 10 but waiting for more support.

Awesome work lol
Zare
Goddamn, I guess I shouldn't try to mod maps by mappers way beyond my league.
Why did u even gave kudos? Q_Q

ztrot wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

01:21:776 (1,2,3) - I don't really understand those. Why 1/1 beats here? There's nothing in the song that implies to stop using 1/2, therefore it's confusing as hell to play (The fact that I can say that without being able to play that map anyways speaks for itself) Uhh Clear the Ground all 1/1 lyrics
01:27:776 (1,2,3) - same here Same deal lyrics
Only about those. Okay, if you map to the lyrics here that's fine then. But then the part where it gets confusing is right after that: 01:22:595 (1,2,3)
Because there are no lyrics anymore to map to. I think, maybe, you could improve the flow here by deleting 2 so you have some consistency until the lyrics continue at 01:23:004 (4)

Ok, now I'm outta here ._.
Topic Starter
ztrot
I gave you kudos because you made and effort to mod the map
also that beat follows the xylophone thingy At 01:22:595 (1,2,3)
Stefan
Just to ask: Wouldn't it looks better without Letterbox? The BG (and the SB) does not really fit with Letterboxes.
Oh and I noticed something:

SPOILER
First Picture:

Second Picture:

Don't kd this, if I deserve it.
Topic Starter
ztrot
i have never once seen that happen i think that is a gpu bug on your end unless something was recently changed.
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