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winber1
I give you a lot of credit for compiling this. However, it probably still won't solve the "omg halp me get better" threads that appear. Even if it gets stickied.

nonetheless, ALL HAIL JESUS~~~!!!
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jesse1412

winber1 wrote:

I give you a lot of credit for compiling this. However, it probably still won't solve the "omg halp me get better" threads that appear. Even if it gets stickied.

nonetheless, ALL HAIL JESUS~~~!!!
Zare
Also, for mouse users:
The lower the DPI the more accurate, thus the better.
Even tho using 2000 dpi might seem to be more comfortable for some beginners, getting used to lower will always improve one's movement.
I recommend using not more than 800 dpi. If u're used to 800 try to lower it even more. As for me, I'm using 450 dpi and am constantly getting better.

And yeah, I don't think the people asking this question will check out such threads but it's worth a try. Great work, jesus.
Aqo
Thanks for the help jesse! <3
Already feeling the improvement thanks to your advice yay

mash mash mash;; lewa's accuracy advice is very good to survive this map too

jesus1412 wrote:

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Approach rate 10

Too lazy of adding these right now
Here's an advice for beginners to high AR which is probably shitty but oh well this worked for me when I started practicing it:
lets say you played only AR9 until now and want to learn AR10 but you feel like you can't react in time to notes that appear. Basically, just always assume there will be a note 1/2 of a beat after the last note you saw, and only try to react to the location where it appears. This makes it less pressuring to play in an AR that feels too fast for you. If it never came, assume that the next note is within 1/1 beat time spacing. Only streams will be hard to read like this, so just assume for starters that everything that appears with very small distance spacing is within stream speed. Eventually you'll just get used to that approach speed and you'll be able to read everything comfortably including streams and 3/4 timings and whatever.
thelewa
Well Aqo the trick is to practice accuracy in maps that you are able to FC ie. easier Insanes or just normal Insanes (it's pretty damn boring if you don't like it but it works)
Aqo

thelewa wrote:

Well Aqo the trick is to practice accuracy in maps that you are able to FC ie. easier Insanes or just normal Insanes (it's pretty damn boring if you don't like it but it works)
I agree, it's impossible to practice accuracy on maps that have BPM/speed higher than your physical speed limit. But no matter how accurate you get on a certain speed that you choose as a checkpoint/stoppoint, you'll be back to ground zero once you start playing on a higher speed; that's why I prefer working on pushing the speed limit up first and postponing accuracy training for later.
Wishy
Wrong.

<-- Living example. If you want accuracy do what lewa says.
thelewa
Aqo if what you say is right, then me being good at accuracy is impossible. I practiced my accuracy first and THEN started building up my speed. My accuracy was at my current level like 1,5 years ago, when I could only stream 150bpm for a few notes before getting tired. Once you get good at accuracy it never goes away.

edit: I know it sounds stupid to use myself as an example, but I've been giving this advice to everyone who ask me for help with accuracy, and people never complain about it not working. Besides, I was never talented in rhythm to begin with, it's all hard work and guts. So I'm fairly certain that it works.
ann_old

thelewa wrote:

Aqo if what you say is right, then me being good at accuracy is impossible. I practiced my accuracy first and THEN started building up my speed. My accuracy was at my current level like 1,5 years ago, when I could only stream 150bpm for a few notes before getting tired. Once you get good at accuracy it never goes away.
yes, if you get like crazy speed for a while and you quit osu! for too long you'll have a GREAT MASSIVE chance of losing that speed. Been there.
It's best to listen to thelewa's advice, burning accuracy into your body is the best thing to do(also the best for a rhythm game)
Aqo
lewa I do agree with your advice, that wasn't my point.
back when you had good accuracy with 150bpm, could you still have the same good accuracy with 230bpm? I don't think it's possible to have good accuracy in a speed you can't go at
thelewa
It seems that your understanding of rhythm and accuracy in osu is flawed. Yours seems to be based on muscle memory. Also obviously I can't have good accuracy in a speed that I can't go at, but the instant when my fingers get strong enough to go at that high speed, my accuracy is already there. I wouldn't even need to reach that speed by practicing with streams, I could do other stuff to strengthen my fingers and still have the same accuracy. And I'm saying that it's something anyone else can do, it just takes a lot of time.

Accuracy is all in a person's head, that's why it's so tedious to learn but will never go away once you get it down.
silmarilen

thelewa wrote:

Aqo if what you say is right, then me being good at accuracy is impossible. I practiced my accuracy first and THEN started building up my speed. My accuracy was at my current level like 1,5 years ago, when I could only stream 150bpm for a few notes before getting tired. Once you get good at accuracy it never goes away.

edit: I know it sounds stupid to use myself as an example, but I've been giving this advice to everyone who ask me for help with accuracy, and people never complain about it not working. Besides, I was never talented in rhythm to begin with, it's all hard work and guts. So I'm fairly certain that it works.
this is exactly the way i have been playing from the beginning
kriers
The most frustrating thing about building accuracy is realizing how limited you really are as a player if you're going to play osu! like thelewa does.

I was foolish enough to consider myself faster than thelewa only because I could play faster maps. In truth, using his streaming technique I'm vastly insuperior in everything.

Since I really wanted to play like the best keyboard players, I decided I'd do whatever it takes to get there eventually. To my surprise, I was forced down to 120, one hundred and twenty bpm if I was going to maintain an accurate stream using keyboard. I had just finished mad machine at 90% the other day and now I realized the only way to hit a perfect stream was going that low ._. 10 months later and I'm slowly gaining stamina, completing long 180 bpm streams and gradually increasing my maximum bpm while maintaining perfect accuracy of course. Good thing I can play mouse only or I'd never bother ever.

tl;dr: spam =/= real streaming ability :(

@Aqo: I realize you don't really find any joy in the accuracy aspect of this game, but expanding your rythmical understanding pays off massively for insane shit as well. I'm sure that if you ever experience mastery in rythm, you'll get instantly hooked like the rest of us

@silmarilen: my scrub days of spamming DT is one of the main reasons I'm comfortable playing harder maps than you :P
Aqo
wait so you mean to say accuracy isn't muscle memory resulting from practice per bpm
what

everything you say is nice in theory but in the end didn't you just get your accuracy from having 10,000s of plays of experience
kriers

Aqo wrote:

wait so you mean to say accuracy isn't muscle memory resulting from practice per bpm
what

everything you say is nice in theory but in the end didn't you just get your accuracy from having 10,000s of plays of experience
muscle memory is vital, but you can't achieve perfect motorics without holding rythm. Meaning you'll die less if you play high bpm a lot, but you won't get perfect 300
thelewa
I'm telling people the best way to get good at accuracy and Aqo of all people is rebuking me

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silmarilen
because someone who can only get 85% acc on maps totally knows better than one of the most accurate players every
lolcubes
Just a mention: if you want to be good at accuracy, you should be playing with hitsounds.

:D
Aqo

thelewa wrote:

sdfgsdfgsdfg
I never said you're wrong dfsdfsdgjhfgfhjd you have crazy good acc (as well as being insanely good at other stuff as well) and I take your advice to heart
darkmiz
Aqo, you may be good at jumps and high AR but I must say you know little about accuracy.

First, please use hit-sounds. This is a rhythm game, and like taiko you need to match every beat or else it will sound bad. I strongly recommend everyone play some taiko (with hit-sounds, of course) to improve accuracy.

Second, practice slow streams. Playing too much fast streams will get you bad habits (like mashing through slider-streams or fast parts you can't read) which is bad for accuracy. The only way to improve is to play these same streams/parts in a slower speed and read them perfectly and get 100% accuracy. You can use the edit-mode and pratice reading these streams/parts with slower speed. When you get comfortable you will read them at a faster speed. That is the real way to improve accuracy.
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