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Nazo_old
Hooie, this will be interesting.

<will edit with mod sooner or later 8D;>
Verdisphena
Oni

00:47:414 (321) - D
00:49:700 (334) - D
01:23:986 (560) - D
01:26:272 (573) - D
01:28:557 (583) - D
01:30:843 (595) - D

Muzukashii

00:30:986 ~ 00:38:843 - This could be hard for a muzu imo
00:47:414 (269) - D
00:49:700 (279) - D
01:07:557 ~ 01:15:414 - Same as above
01:23:986 (466) - D
01:26:272 (476) - D
01:28:557 (486) - D
01:30:843 (496) - D

Can't find nothing in Futsuu and Kantan. Sorry if my mod isn't useful ):, good luck with the map <3
Topic Starter
Love

Verdisphena wrote:

Oni

00:47:414 (321) - D
00:49:700 (334) - D
01:23:986 (560) - D
01:26:272 (573) - D
01:28:557 (583) - D
01:30:843 (595) - D
done them all

Muzukashii

00:30:986 ~ 00:38:843 - This could be hard for a muzu imo
00:47:414 (269) - D
00:49:700 (279) - D
01:07:557 ~ 01:15:414 - Same as above
01:23:986 (466) - D
01:26:272 (476) - D
01:28:557 (486) - D
01:30:843 (496) - D
done them all

Can't find nothing in Futsuu and Kantan. Sorry if my mod isn't useful ):, good luck with the map <3
Really needed to make the Muzu easier, thanks! :D
Touche
[Kantan]

00:30:986 (37) - Maybe it's better in D
00:40:129 (49) - ^
01:07:557 (76) - ^
01:16:700 (89) - ^

[Futsuu]

00:30:986 (69) - Maybe it's better in D
00:40:129 (93) - ^
01:07:557 (147) - ^
01:15:557 (169) - k
01:16:700 (171) - Maybe it's better in D
01:34:986 (210) - ^

[Muzukashii]

GENERAL: This diff seems like a Oni, why you don't change the name to Oni, the Oni changes to Inner Oni and make a new Muzukashii, or I can make a guest Muzukashii if you want :3

00:21:557 (115) - k
00:42:272 (234) - ^

[Oni]

01:12:129 (481) - K

[Opinion]

Really, a great taiko mapset. I don't have a large mod (i know) because it's mapper 99% correctly, so... good luck :3
Topic Starter
Love

T o u c h e wrote:

[Kantan]

00:30:986 (37) - Maybe it's better in D
00:40:129 (49) - ^
01:07:557 (76) - ^
01:16:700 (89) - ^

changed

[Futsuu]

00:30:986 (69) - Maybe it's better in Ddidn't do this to keep it easy
00:40:129 (93) - ^ done
01:07:557 (147) - ^ same as first one
01:15:557 (169) - k done
01:16:700 (171) - Maybe it's better in D done
01:34:986 (210) - ^ done

[Muzukashii]

GENERAL: This diff seems like a Oni, why you don't change the name to Oni, the Oni changes to Inner Oni and make a new Muzukashii, or I can make a guest Muzukashii if you want :3 make one if you can make it easier, please XD

00:21:557 (115) - k no change, it felt really good to play as a d
00:42:272 (234) - ^ was switching from k k d to k d d

[Oni]

01:12:129 (481) - K done

[Opinion]

Really, a great taiko mapset. I don't have a large mod (i know) because it's mapper 99% correctly, so... good luck :3
thanks :D
Touche
Guest muzukashii *runs*

http://puu.sh/1jFXg
Topic Starter
Love
I didn't take the guest muzu because it felt like the same difficulty. I removed a few more notes in mine to lower the difficulty in kiai.
Pheon
Coming by to just drop a mod in here~

[Kantan]
-The intro is rather plain to me.. You're only using x x x x x x. Perhaps you could add some flavour using x x x x x at times?
-If you plan on keeping it this way, then I do suggest making the x x x x x x a bit more interesting.
-00:23:557 (28) - Following the logic from the section before, this should be a k.
-01:16:129 (88) - Perhaps remove this? It's a rather long stream for a kantan and it adds a break before the finish

To be honest, there's nothing wrong structure-wise with it.

[Futsuu]
-00:21:272 (45) - Change into k? There is a bit of a buildup over here (or at least, the pitch is shifting upwards), making k a better choice to me.

-00:38:986 (91) - vvvvv
-01:15:557 (169) - The music is the exact same in these spots, yet you choose to go for a k here and a d before. Mind if I ask for your reasoning on it?

-01:22:414 (184) - vvvvvvvvv
-01:22:985 (185,186) - You could make this part a bit more dramatic, being the last chorus and all. I suggest either turning the first one into a k (you used dkk before), or turn these two into kk. (Or you could do both, for a dkk kkd.. or go for ddk kkd. Seeing as how you use dkd all the time, ddk puts the accent on the latter half)

-01:42:985 (227,228,229,230,231) - You could turn this into d k D for a bit more accentuated ending. In that case, you might want to add a note at 01:42:700 - (Probably a k, following your previous structures)

An interesting futsuu~

[Muzukashii]
-Wow that intro, not sure if it's too hard, it seems rather awkward for me to all-alternate. Personal suggestions would be;
-00:02:129 (8) - Remove this one for an easier time alternating, or change the pattern into k k d
-00:03:414 (15) - Remove for easier time hitting the finish as well as making it a bit less dense overall. Not sure how finishes are in between streams in muzukashii, personally I think they can be avoided most of the time and thus should be avoided.

-00:12:414 (64,65,66,67) - You might want to revise this - it's a good pattern, but perhaps it's a tad hard to hit kkk D for 210bpm when looking at the difficulty you're aiming at. (You could also use the suggestion listed later on, the d kkk k D)
-00:30:414 (163,164,165,166,167,168) - Perhaps change this into d kkk k D? Also for the sake of making it a tad easier to hit for a muzu.
-00:35:700 (194) - You might want to listen what it sounds like when this note is removed. It makes it a bit less dense due to the lack of a direct followup after the finish, and it makes for an interesting x x x x x x

-00:49:129 (265) - I'm not a fan of this section in general. Instead of d K K d you could do a lot of it with d k k D, making it a lot less dense and having all the finishes followed by a 1/1 break. If you're going to keep it this way, then I do suggest removing the note I mentioned.

-01:20:557 (427) - Change into d for the sake of consistency? (kkd kkd kkddk d kdd kdd kdddk)

-01:23:557 (441) - The same suggestions as before on this section. In fact, you might want to try d kkk d instead of d K K d. You aren't using a lot of 1/4ths in the muzu, which is probably a good thing, but in dense parts like this, it'd fit.

-01:43:914 (538) - In the music, this does not have a logical backup. I also suggest removing it for a bit smoother ending - the dense ending is the section before this, anyway.

Overall a nice diff, I didn't really look into consistency of notes and sections and structure - I can do this later on if you'd like.

[Oni]
-In the first half of the chorus, you use a lot of 1/4. In the second half, not so much. It is a rather good idea, but I suggest doing stuff like that on a section-basis.

Probably the worst suggestion 2012, but;
-00:54:414 (362) - You could turn this into a 1/3 kkddddd for flavour. The section is in a 3/4 beat, making it forgiving, and... Flavour!

In general, I think you know what's wrong with the difficulty structure-wise. I can do a full revision of this as well if you'd like, but right now I'm derping up. If you'd like, then I can do this tomorrow (or perhaps this evening).


Awesome set, lolwhat-title, good luck on getting it ranked~
Topic Starter
Love

Pheon wrote:

Coming by to just drop a mod in here~

[Kantan]
-The intro is rather plain to me.. You're only using x x x x x x. Perhaps you could add some flavour using x x x x x at times?
-If you plan on keeping it this way, then I do suggest making the x x x x x x a bit more interesting.
-00:23:557 (28) - Following the logic from the section before, this should be a k. done
-01:16:129 (88) - Perhaps remove this? It's a rather long stream for a kantan and it adds a break before the finish done

To be honest, there's nothing wrong structure-wise with it.

[Futsuu]
-00:21:272 (45) - Change into k? There is a bit of a buildup over here (or at least, the pitch is shifting upwards), making k a better choice to me. done

-00:38:986 (91) - vvvvv
-01:15:557 (169) - The music is the exact same in these spots, yet you choose to go for a k here and a d before. Mind if I ask for your reasoning on it? dunno, changed to k for the first one XD

-01:22:414 (184) - vvvvvvvvv
-01:22:985 (185,186) - You could make this part a bit more dramatic, being the last chorus and all. I suggest either turning the first one into a k (you used dkk before), or turn these two into kk. (Or you could do both, for a dkk kkd.. or go for ddk kkd. Seeing as how you use dkd all the time, ddk puts the accent on the latter half) did both, ddk and kkd

-01:42:985 (227,228,229,230,231) - You could turn this into d k D for a bit more accentuated ending. In that case, you might want to add a note at 01:42:700 - (Probably a k, following your previous structures) left it as d k d k D, it feels better imo

An interesting futsuu~

[Muzukashii]
-Wow that intro, not sure if it's too hard, it seems rather awkward for me to all-alternate. Personal suggestions would be;
-00:02:129 (8) - Remove this one for an easier time alternating, or change the pattern into k k d changed to k k d
-00:03:414 (15) - Remove for easier time hitting the finish as well as making it a bit less dense overall. Not sure how finishes are in between streams in muzukashii, personally I think they can be avoided most of the time and thus should be avoided. I removed it now XD

-00:12:414 (64,65,66,67) - You might want to revise this - it's a good pattern, but perhaps it's a tad hard to hit kkk D for 210bpm when looking at the difficulty you're aiming at. (You could also use the suggestion listed later on, the d kkk k D) from how loud I have the hitsounds, I just made it d d k k d d k k D
-00:30:414 (163,164,165,166,167,168) - Perhaps change this into d kkk k D? Also for the sake of making it a tad easier to hit for a muzu. done
-00:35:700 (194) - You might want to listen what it sounds like when this note is removed. It makes it a bit less dense due to the lack of a direct followup after the finish, and it makes for an interesting x x x x x x done XD

-00:49:129 (265) - I'm not a fan of this section in general. Instead of d K K d you could do a lot of it with d k k D, making it a lot less dense and having all the finishes followed by a 1/1 break. If you're going to keep it this way, then I do suggest removing the note I mentioned. I'll leave this alone since it's something I feel I should have.

-01:20:557 (427) - Change into d for the sake of consistency? (kkd kkd kkddk d kdd kdd kdddk) done

-01:23:557 (441) - The same suggestions as before on this section. In fact, you might want to try d kkk d instead of d K K d. You aren't using a lot of 1/4ths in the muzu, which is probably a good thing, but in dense parts like this, it'd fit. same as the one before the one above

-01:43:914 (538) - In the music, this does not have a logical backup. I also suggest removing it for a bit smoother ending - the dense ending is the section before this, anyway.done

Overall a nice diff, I didn't really look into consistency of notes and sections and structure - I can do this later on if you'd like.

[Oni]
-In the first half of the chorus, you use a lot of 1/4. In the second half, not so much. It is a rather good idea, but I suggest doing stuff like that on a section-basis.

Probably the worst suggestion 2012, but;
-00:54:414 (362) - You could turn this into a 1/3 kkddddd for flavour. The section is in a 3/4 beat, making it forgiving, and... Flavour! nop lol

In general, I think you know what's wrong with the difficulty structure-wise. I can do a full revision of this as well if you'd like, but right now I'm derping up. If you'd like, then I can do this tomorrow (or perhaps this evening).


Awesome set, lolwhat-title, good luck on getting it ranked~
Thanks, you really should mod more :P
mintong89
Taiko Mod <3

d = don
k = kat
D = BIG DON
K = BIG KAT
re = remove

[Taiko Oni]

00:11:557 - -> 00:12:700 - d d k, d d k, D. i just hear this part's drum, i wonder why you put the kkk or kkddd.

[Taiko Muzu / Futsuu / Kantan]

yeah no problem.

/me runs

good luck. and my poor mod lol/ i can't find anything.
Topic Starter
Love

mintong89 wrote:

Taiko Mod <3

d = don
k = kat
D = BIG DON
K = BIG KAT
re = remove

[Taiko Oni]

00:11:557 - -> 00:12:700 - d d k, d d k, D. i just hear this part's drum, i wonder why you put the kkk or kkddd.I used kkk d d kkddd because kkd wouldn't feel right there, since that's originally how it goes. And the kkddd because kdddd wouldn't feel right for my style. Sorry

[Taiko Muzu / Futsuu / Kantan]

yeah no problem.

/me runs

good luck. and my poor mod lol/ i can't find anything.
Thanks and at least you tried <3
MMzz
Talked about stuff over IRC with the Muzu.
Bubbled!
Kawayi Rika
You must post a IRC log first ~
OnosakiHito
Before someone ranks it, please let me check the map first when I'm back from school. I've found something out in Kantan and Futsuu.
After that MMzz can rebubble it again. And someone rank.
Topic Starter
Love

Kawayi Rika wrote:

You must post a IRC log first ~
IRC
22:50 Love: crached lol
22:50 Love: crashed*
22:50 MMzz: tone down the 1/2 a little
22:51 MMzz: it's kinda hard for a muzu
22:51 MMzz: cause bpm
22:51 Love: kk
22:52 Love: and the finishers?
22:52 MMzz: ya
22:52 MMzz: that's too hard lol
22:52 MMzz: yeah that's all really
22:52 MMzz: other diffs are fine
22:52 Love: kk
22:55 MMzz: also why no tags
22:56 Love: kinda removed them
22:56 Love: I could add KOTOKO n such
22:56 MMzz: please do
22:56 MMzz: and put taiko in the tags
22:59 Love: done
23:00 Love: gah
23:00 Love: I can remove more if you want lol
23:01 MMzz: it's fine
23:01 Love: k XD
23:02 MMzz: k bubbled
Topic Starter
Love
Sync is making me wait for your next post Ono. Please hurry D:
OnosakiHito
[Kantan]

{ 00:46:986~01:05:272
00:53:272 (61) -
01:01:272 (70) -
This section is a problem here which is music based. It will probably confuse the beginners with the different spacing.
You followed the light sound in the song at circle (61) and (70), which you didn't done at 01:02:986. What do you think if we follow all of these sounds in this section? There would be less notes, so a bit easier for beginners to play. I prepared it in this file: http://puu.sh/1v1Se
In the Test-Kantan, note (12,13) would be a good entry for (14,15,16). What do you think about this solution/suggestion?
}

In general Kantan is totally fine. It would be maybe adviceable to use next time akekobe style(reverse pattern constalation), since it is hard to make with those general huge gaps a connection between the single notes.

[Futsuu]

You should have a less pattern ratio here in the Futsuu. Right now it's just a little bit much on some sections.

00:18:986 (40,41,42) - I would suggest to stick on d k d as you did it before and afterwards.
00:21:272 (45,46,47) - ^
00:52:700 (122) - move to 00:52:986 because it is probably harder to consider how to hit the notes with these spacings in Futsuu(same problem as kantan).
00:54:414 (126) - move to 00:54:700 because ^
00:58:700 (135) - d because of on the top said reason?
01:23:557~01:32:700 - Great part!


That's all. Decent difficultys you have here. Said suggestions in Kantan and Futsuu are mostly because of difficulty thingies. Overall everything is fine, couldn't find anything in Muzukashii and Oni.
Difficulty spread is great in my opinion.

Hope I could help you with this. Good luck with the ranking! :)
Topic Starter
Love

OnosakiHito wrote:

[Kantan]

{ 00:46:986~01:05:272
00:53:272 (61) -
01:01:272 (70) -
This section is a problem here which is music based. It will probably confuse the beginners with the different spacing.
You followed the light sound in the song at circle (61) and (70), which you didn't done at 01:02:986. What do you think if we follow all of these sounds in this section? There would be less notes, so a bit easier for beginners to play. I prepared it in this file: http://puu.sh/1v1Se
In the Test-Kantan, note (12,13) would be a good entry for (14,15,16). What do you think about this solution/suggestion?
}

In general Kantan is totally fine. It would be maybe adviceable to use next time akekobe style(reverse pattern constalation), since it is hard to make with those general huge gaps a connection between the single notes.

[Futsuu]

You should have a less pattern ratio here in the Futsuu. Right now it's just a little bit much on some sections.

00:18:986 (40,41,42) - I would suggest to stick on d k d as you did it before and afterwards.
00:21:272 (45,46,47) - ^
00:52:700 (122) - move to 00:52:986 because it is probably harder to consider how to hit the notes with these spacings in Futsuu(same problem as kantan).
00:54:414 (126) - move to 00:54:700 because ^
00:58:700 (135) - d because of on the top said reason?
01:23:557~01:32:700 - Great part!


That's all. Decent difficultys you have here. Said suggestions in Kantan and Futsuu are mostly because of difficulty thingies. Overall everything is fine, couldn't find anything in Muzukashii and Oni.
Difficulty spread is great in my opinion.

Hope I could help you with this. Good luck with the ranking! :)
did all besides 00:21:272 (45,46,47) - on futsuu

felt like it needed to be k d d because of the changeup with the k before it.
MMzz
Rebubble!
Sync
[Oni]
00:42:129 (288) - definitely recommend making this a kat here to be consistent with what you've been doing so far (following the percussion etc)

That's all, pretty solid taiko mapset. Finally got around to checking the Oni one last time

Tell me whenever you're ready for a recheck

EDIT:
Ranked!
KinomiCandy
this sucks
Stefan
Just asking: Is it correct that the "P" is capitalized?
Because at the ranked Standard Mapset, the P at Problems isn't it. Just asking~
Charles445

Stefan wrote:

Just asking: Is it correct that the "P" is capitalized?
Because at the ranked Standard Mapset, the P at Problems isn't it. Just asking~
Uhoh
Nyquill

Charles445 wrote:

Stefan wrote:

Just asking: Is it correct that the "P" is capitalized?
Because at the ranked Standard Mapset, the P at Problems isn't it. Just asking~
Uhoh
dundundundun
cokeshawty

KinomiCandy wrote:

this sucks
Stefan

Idk what you think about it.
KinomiCandy
inb4 unrank
dkun
uh, who cares
MMzz
It's just a letter. It doesn't effect the map quality at all.
Stefan

MMzz wrote:

It's just a letter. It doesn't effect the map quality at all.
Yeah but I just say, in case, it would not be that big thing to fix it.
Verdisphena
Woo, this is ranked <3
HeatKai
Congrats Love :D
This is bullshitying me
OzzyOzrock
rank me
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