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Pendulum - Crush (Radio Edit)

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Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年11月16日 at 12:40:34

Artist: Pendulum
Title: Crush (Radio Edit)
Tags: immersion
BPM: 174
Filesize: 5525kb
Play Time: 03:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.78 stars, 339 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 543 notes)
  3. Normal (2.96 stars, 159 notes)
Download: Pendulum - Crush (Radio Edit)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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21st beatmap.

Hmm, actually Watercolour is my favourite Pendulum song.
Scorpiour
前排
Mercurial
Actually, your normal diff needs to low the diff rate under than 3 stars.
Lizellota
Hi~~ As i promised :3 #modreqs

[General]

remove all bookmarks, no tags? no sourse?

[Insane]

Unrankable stuff

00:32:971 (3) - NC must be fixed, because you are changed the SV
01:28:143 (3) - ^
00:51:592 (1,1,1,1,1) - i think no need to use spam NC
01:36:075 (3) - NC
02:02:799 (1,2) - it's really confusing me when i'm played with hidden
02:11:075 (1,2,3,4) - replace it, because it's hard to read

Suggestions - Mapping:

00:40:040 (5) - NC
01:06:161 (8) - move to x:432 y:252

Suggestions - Hitsounds:
00:35:902 - finish
00:38:661 - ^
00:44:178 - ^
00:46:937 - ^
00:49:695 - ^
00:52:454 - ^
00:59:178 (2) - add whistle on this slider
01:00:730 - finish
01:06:247 - ^
01:10:212 - whistle
01:11:764 - finish
01:31:075 - ^
01:33:833 - ^
01:39:350 - ^
01:42:109 - ^
01:44:868 - ^
01:54:350 (2) - whistle
01:55:902 - finish
01:58:661 - ^
02:01:419 - ^
02:05:385 (8) - whistle
02:06:937 - finish
02:23:488 - whistle
02:24:006 (2) - remove
02:25:730 (3) - ^
02:26:247 - whistle
02:28:833 (5) - remove
02:30:902 (5) - whistle
02:31:247 - remove
02:33:661 (5) - whistle
02:49:523 (7) - ^
02:48:316 - finish
02:51:075 - ^
02:53:833 (1) - ^
02:56:592 - ^
03:00:557 (2) - whistle
03:02:109 - finish

[Hard]

Unrankable stuff

00:32:971 (3) - same as insane
00:57:971 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - what is that? remove this spam NC
01:09:006 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
01:28:144 (3) - same as insane
01:53:144 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - same above...
02:04:179 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
02:48:316 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
02:59:350 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^

Normal is ok, but make it easier or make an easy diff~ ah, i forgot, if you like my hitsounds, please, add in all diffs~ :3
Good luck :3
RobotoRaccoon
Insane:

00:32:799 (1) - NC
01:27:971 (1) - NC

Hard:
What's up with all the NC spam sections?
e.g.
02:59:350 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
02:48:316 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
02:04:179 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
01:53:144 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
01:09:006 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
00:57:971 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) -
They really don't look that good, to be honest. And the double stack parts would be a bit confusing for a player at "hard" level to follow.

Really good map!
kurohana
Thank you for request \(^^)/
Sorry for delay ^^'

Hard

  1. 00:32:971 (3) - NC because of previously slow down
  2. 00:49:006 (5,6,7,1) - This was very confusing the first moment, i thougt it was placed like [urlhttp://puu.sh/16kO6]this[/url] Move them?
  3. 00:58:661 (1,1,1,1) - ^
  4. 01:10:040 (1,1,1,1) - ^
  5. 01:28:144 (3) - Like 00:32:971
  6. 01:44:179 (5,6,7,1) - Like 00:49:006
  7. 01:53:834 (1,1,1,1) - ^
  8. 02:05:213 (1,1,1,1) - ^
  9. 02:23:661 (2) - NC because of slow down
  10. 02:49:868 (1) - A bit hidden

Insane

  1. 00:32:971 (3) - NC because of slow down
  2. 01:28:143 (3) - ^
  3. 02:03:143 (2) - Hidden under sliderslide

That's all :3
Kiiwa
Good map~ ;D
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Thanks Kiiwa and you modders!
Kinda busy atm so I'll fixed these issues later.
riffy
hi~

as requested

[General]
i think Pendulum - Crush is enough (radio mix should be in tags)
tags: Immersion (album name) and Rob Swire Gareth McGrillen Paul Harding Ben Mount Peredur ap Gwynedd Kevin Sawka (band members)
Try tick rate: 2? fits with music better, imo

[Normal]
AR3 is too low for this BPM. i suggest you to use AR4 and OD/HP Drain +1 also, to be more balanced. (it will make your Star diff higher than 3 stars and you will need Easy diff but it's better to map 2 diffs properly instead of making one diff with weird settings, i think)
00:33:143 (1) - it's better to avoid (1,1) atterns for Easiest diff in mapset. also this NC looks kinda overused. try to remove this new combo to make diff more understandable/readable
00:37:282 (1,2) - this pattern is confusing for easiest diff. 1/1 notes suddenly stop and 2/1 beat stacked with previous notes isn't really easy to read. :/ try to make something else without ruining your flow? my example
00:41:075 (3,1) - sounds awkward to me. it just wrong to end slider in the middle of loooooong note! i want you to try something like this
00:45:902 - i don't like how you missed this beat it plays awkward. and also i can clearly hear claps at those two beats. so.. i think it's bette to put circles here. example of flow
00:48:661 - same as above. i think you should put circle here >.</
01:01:075 (2) - i think it's better to start this slider at 01:00:730 - it's stonger beat and it's also the beat where this note actually starts
01:03:143 (5) - slider ends. vocals starts. does it fits? i don't think so. try something else. orz at least try this
01:28:316 (1) - same as 00:33:143 (1)
01:32:455 (1,2) - 00:37:282 (1,2) -yeah. i sense copypasta here but whatever.
01:36:248 (3,1) - totally off vocals. is it really ok to simply make 1/1 beats everywhere? try something different here, please!
01:39:351 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - since i modded the first half of diff all i see is the same patterns. it's rankable but it's too boring for beginners. try to make something different! something that will make us remember your map! be more creative
02:26:247 (4) - this slider shape could confuse some beginners because they probably don't know how to play this kind of sliders.
02:42:799 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - kinda awkward pattern. i don't really think that it's okay to use 8 1/1 notes in row in Easiest diff. beginners can't click so fast.
03:06:247 (2) - not sure if it's acceptable pattern because part of reverse-arrow is kinda covered by previous slider. if it's possible, fi it somehow, please

also: there's two unsnapped objects

[Hard]
00:32:799 (2) - new combo here to point out velocity changes. it's kinda hard to read/play as is because velocity change is so sudden
01:09:006 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - what's wrong with this new combo spam? it's totally doesn't fits here. fi it somehow, please
01:09:006 (1,1,1,1,1) - becaus of missing beat at 01:10:385 - it probably will confuse players with hidden
02:04:179 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - i think you know what to do.
02:23:661 (2) - same as 00:32:799 (2). you know i won't point out every SV change. so.. check your map and fix them if you want to
02:32:108 (2) - sounds like overmap to me. i don't really think that those 1/4 beats are here

sorry.. i really don't like this kind of music. anyway, hope i helps you. (Insane diff is quite clear, btw)
Scorpiour
Hi there~~mod for request~~

[Normal]
  1. 建议AR+1,否则读图吃力,特别是像00:35:902 (1,2,3,4,1) -
  2. 02:42:799 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 我觉得新人肯定会被这一大串转晕的……
[Hard]
  1. 00:35:730 (4) - 这里可以考虑删掉来保持和前面节奏的一致~~
  2. 00:49:523 (7) - 放到144:304试试?我觉得这里跳比stack要舒服一点~
  3. 00:58:661 (1,1,1,1) - 有一点点担心这种遮挡…………
  4. 01:13:143 (4,5) - 试试这个节奏?感觉比你的要好听一点呢~~
    1. 01:13:143 (4) - 删掉
    2. 01:13:488 (5) - 删掉
    3. 01:13:143 - 放Note
    4. 01:13:316 - 放slider持续到01:13:661 -
  5. 01:44:696 (7) - 放到368:80?和前面一样
  6. 01:54:696 (1,1) - 我能吐槽你偷懒复制粘贴嘛
  7. 02:08:316 (4,5) - 和前面那段完全一样的节奏建议
[Insane]
  1. 00:42:626 (4,1) - 这个跳感觉不舒服 ……挡手
  2. 01:14:178 (7) - 考虑放到156:80并且做成这样?感觉flow会更舒服一点
  3. 01:14:523 (1,2,3) - 这里白线三连不好听
  4. 01:15:212 (5,6,7) - ^
  5. 01:32:454 (5,6,7,1) - 纯粹的建议啊……要不要尝试做成这样?把01:32:454 (5) - 放到88:124,然后后面01:32:971 - 开始放个5连?
that's all~~~gl
Takos
As requested.

General
  • Add a decrescendo for the last spinner for all diffs? You can feel the music fading out so I think it fits.
Normal
  • 01:06:247 (1) - Add finish?
    02:01:420 (1) - ^
    02:56:592 (1) - ^

Hard
  • AR+1?
    00:32:971 (3) - NC
    00:59:696 (1) - idk i think you should shift this downwards so its more visible
    01:06:247 (1) - Add finish?
    01:44:179 (5,6,7) - Touches HP bar
    01:54:869 (1) - As I said before
    02:01:420 (1) - NC?
    02:44:178 (5) - NC
    02:49:868 (1) - Completely hidden, please fix this plz.
Insane
  • 00:32:281 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Just my opinion, this feels better for me. Maybe you need to NC to emphasize the slider velocity change.
    00:44:178 (1) - Add finish?
    01:28:143 (3) - NC?
    02:03:143 (2) - This slider is extremely hard to see, wasn't this unrankable now? -.-
    02:06:937 (1) - Add finish?
    02:11:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This spacing was really confusing when I played it because it looks pretty similar to the previous spacing but different rhythm
    02:39:523 (1,2,3) - ^ same here
    02:51:074 (1) - Maybe you can shift this slightly to the left, or stack with 02:50:557 (5) - so the beginning is clearly visible to players
    02:56:592 (1) - Add finish?
Yeah the song and map is so awesome. 8-)
I found some problems with stacking while playing, so I hope you fix those.
Other than that, it feels great.
Good luck!
tutuhaha
两KD!抢!
21:27 tutuhaha: Normal
21:27 tutuhaha: 00:37:626 (X) - 这边空个还是覆盖的太难受了要不加note要不别覆盖
21:28 tutuhaha: 01:32:799 (X) - 同理
21:29 tutuhaha: 01:34:178 (2) - 然后这边看这个没圈好
21:29 tutuhaha: 02:09:695 (1,2) - 这两个看起来稍微挤了点
21:30 tutuhaha: 02:23:143 (1) - 这个音还是去掉的好,在normal里有点突然
21:31 tutuhaha: normal没了
21:32 tutuhaha: 我个人比较不喜欢在slider的轨道上面加whistle,单个note加whistle的感觉不错
21:32 tutuhaha: Hard
21:33 tutuhaha: 00:32:281 (1) - 一开头就坑爹are you sure /口\?!
21:34 tutuhaha: 00:32:971 (3) -
21:34 tutuhaha: ^至少在这上面加个NC吧Q_Q,不过就我来说的话本来开头的那个音是可以省掉的但是吧可以省略的
21:34 tutuhaha: 音搞成这种强调感真的不怎么爽..............
21:34 tutuhaha: 00:46:764 (4) - 这地方不必三连吧有点多余
21:35 tutuhaha: 00:49:523 (7) - 把7搞到和后面的1重叠怎样
21:35 tutuhaha: 这里的话看上去有点不怎么...........
21:36 tutuhaha: 00:58:661 (3,4,1,2) - 这个这个这个这个绝对会被喷的!!!!!!!!!!
21:36 tutuhaha: 看上去也太不爽了重叠默认会有一定的厚度对吧真的看上去也不爽
21:37 tutuhaha: 01:07:281 (X) - 总觉得在这里空拍不爽,考虑加note》
21:38 tutuhaha: 01:41:937 (4) - 一样
21:38 tutuhaha: 后面重复的那一段一并改了吧要是前面也改了的话^
21:39 tutuhaha: 02:24:006 (3) - +NC
21:39 tutuhaha: 02:26:419 (1) - 1总觉得应该移到这里
21:40 tutuhaha: 02:27:454 (4,5) - 太近了吧
21:40 tutuhaha: 02:30:212 (4,5) - 中间空拍不舒服
21:40 tutuhaha: 02:38:488 (4,5,6,7) - 这块节奏总觉得很违和感
21:41 tutuhaha: 02:40:040 (1,2,3,4) - 这边的某些slider的开始点才应该是红线
21:42 tutuhaha: 02:49:350 (4,1) - 还是一定会被喷的!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:43 tutuhaha: 02:58:488 (6,7) - 这块节奏其实感觉应该是02:58:661 - 空出来02:58:833 - 有note这样吧
21:45 tutuhaha: 这个难度感觉为了排列而舍弃了很多节奏的感觉,然后像是03:03:488 (4,5) - 或者是00:37:281 (5,6) -
21:45 tutuhaha: 这些1/2拍我觉得拉大点间距会比较好,因为前面基础节奏很紧促,然后在这里放1/2还按照DS的间
21:45 tutuhaha: 距来的话会觉得是小跳而不是1/2
21:46 tutuhaha: 然后是Insane
21:46 tutuhaha: 00:32:971 (3) - 这个加个NC好了
21:47 tutuhaha: 00:38:143 (2) -
21:47 tutuhaha: 三连应该是从这里开始的吧,然后把那个note移到三连的那个地方,这样节奏感觉会好很多
21:47 tutuhaha: 00:45:730 (X) - 这里空拍,然后在这里00:46:075 - 加note怎天
21:47 tutuhaha: *怎样
21:48 tutuhaha: 01:14:523 (1,2,3,4) - 不怎么喜欢这种排列方式
21:49 tutuhaha: 01:15:212 (5,6,7,8) - ^
21:49 tutuhaha: 01:16:592 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 再拉大点也没关系的啦!!!!!!!!!!
21:49 tutuhaha: 01:28:143 (3) - +NC
21:51 tutuhaha: 02:30:730 (5) - 其实应该在白线上对吧
21:52 tutuhaha: 02:39:006 (2) - ^
21:52 tutuhaha: 02:39:350 (X) - 然后这里再加个note^
21:53 tutuhaha: 02:45:212 (1) - 这里其实可以拉得更远一点
21:54 tutuhaha: 03:07:023 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - 可以再拉大点哒!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:54 tutuhaha: 好没了
21:54 tutuhaha: 其实IRC的话我话会多点这样恩(・∀・)
Flower
Hi~ QQ req~

[Normal]
00:35:212 (3) - 遮挡了 真的遮挡了
01:30:385 (3) - ^
02:04:523 - +whistle
02:05:902 - ^
02:59:695 (2,4) - ^

[Hard]
01:29:523 - 加一个note
01:33:144 (6) - 被HP条挡住了
01:44:179 (5,6,7) - 同上,而且因为stack所以出的更严重
01:53:489 (1) - ^
01:55:558 (1) - ^

[Insane]
00:36:937 (4) - 被HP条挡住了
00:51:592 (1,1,1,1,1) - 教练能讲解下么这里是怎么跳的 全部1实在不好读图 而且如果为了好看的话 这里的跳也最好顺逆时针反过来 也就是交换以下两组中每组内的两个note:00:51:764 (1,1) - 00:51:937 (1,1) -
spboxer3

※ Notice

red is unrankable issue.
blue is recommended to fix.
Black is just suggestion.

general


  • Settings
    (For the setting/general issue.)
  1. add tag: Immersion <- It's album name.

Normal




  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 02:05:902 (4) - (minor) fix to symmetrical shape.
    code
    338,129,125902,2,2,B|303:192|208:192|173:129,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
  2. 03:13:143 - spinner end at 03:13:143 - or 03:12:799 - . at 03:13:143 - , I haven't heard any drum/vocal...etc at here.

Hard



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:32:281 - 50% low speed it's too slow and uncomfortable. maybe 75% will be better.
  2. 01:27:454 - ^

  3. 02:29:350 (2) - why it's 1/6 rhythm? It's very odd to me, recommend to used 1/4 rhythm (also, 1/6 rhythm it's unsuitable rhythm for calm part.)

  4. 02:32:108 (2) - ^

  5. 03:07:712 (1) - spinner end issue.

Insane



  • mapping
    (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 02:02:799 (1,2) - (confuse) for this pattern. It's really difficult to read, not newcombe + 174BPM + slider covered = D:
  2. 02:29:350 (1) - as I said, 1/6 It's unsuitable rhythm for calm part.

  3. 02:32:109 (1) - ^

  4. 03:07:712 (1) - spinner again.

call me back when you fix my mod~ but it you must reply my mod post and used 2 color to reply it
Blue: you accept my mod item
Red: you deny my mod item and please reply the reason.
Let's try~
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
I've fixed all the points you've mentioned expect those spinners.
And thanks for modding! :D

EDIT: Ok I'll insist no more. Spinners changed.
spboxer3
k~
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
Thank you so much, dude. :D
Kei
I love this song. I hope this map gets ranked soon :D
Derekku
I guess I'll take a look at this tomorrow. Crush has become one of my favorite Pendulum songs. ):
Andrea

Derekku wrote:

I guess I'll take a look at this tomorrow. Crush has become one of my favorite Pendulum songs. ):
Was going to mod this, oh well, gonna let Derekku doing that :3
Derekku
[Normal]
*Looks good!

[Hard]
*Why are the difficulty settings so low? The Drain and OD are only one tick higher than Normal; please raise Drain 1-2 ticks and OD 2 ticks!
02:37:626 (2,3) - Too close to (1). Maybe horizontally flip these?
*I had some other complaints about the overlapping sliders and such, but I guess they're fine.

[Insane]
02:11:075 (1,2,3,4) - Saw these in the Editor before playing, but still missed on them while playtesting. I expecting a stream of 1/4s like in the first chorus, and so doing this is a bit unintuitive... I really suggest changing this pattern.

And I guess that's it! Will rank after your input!
Topic Starter
JauiPlaY
All fixed, thanks for modding Derek!
And thank you too Andrea. I'm happy to see that another BAT would like to have a look at this poor map I made. :D

EDIT: Also, thank you for your supporting, Kei!
Derekku
I still prefer the original version of this song :V

Anyways... Ranked!
Mercurial
Gratz! <3
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