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mancuso_JM_
Hi Katty! I'm stalking modding one of your maps again :P. Sorry for the delay and here is my part of the m4m

[Normal:]

A little thing to make your finishes consistent with the other difficulties
In this diff is better if you remark the Storyboard adding finishes when they act, I talk about this first section. In concrete and to be consistent with the other difficulties add Finishes on:
00:05:546 (1): Slider beginning
00:11:032 (1)
00:16:518 (1)
00:27:489 (1)
00:32:975 (1)
00:38:461 (1)


• 00:02:803 (1,3): Add Whistle on these Sliders beginning, fit perfectly with the background of the song and also I think that you did something like I said you on Insane
• 00:08:975 (3,5): (^)
• 00:17:889 (3): This pattern would flow better if you move this Note 'out' of these Sliders, the movement of the mouse/tablet is more comfortable. So is better if you move this Note to x:192 y:136
• 00:28:861 (3,4): The Vocal is sounds just like a unit instead of two things separated like you did with these 2 Notes, so is better if you replace that to a Slider
• 00:34:003 (3,4): (^)
• 00:44:632 (1): Would be better if you finish with the map at the same position as Insane, is more consistent and looks better since this break is longer than Insane diff. and because in this place the vocal end. You should to reduce this Slider by 1/1 and follow this Rhythm
• 00:46:689 (1): This finish on the end sounds preety high, sounds better without Hitsounds.
• 00:55:603: A Slider and a break then looks boring, including this kind of diff. too. Like the other difficultes start to map since here and map the break that start on 00:57:832 to make the map more interesting, I'm sure that you have a nice music to map there
• 01:27:832 (Spin, 1,2,3): This pattern could be a bit hard to read to 'New/Normal' Players because in 01:29:203 act the Instrumental and the SB but this place is overlapped by the Spinner Hitburst, so this is strange because this kind of players don't have the necesary skill to read if there is a Note or Not, maybe you can rearrange a bit this pattern on another way to avoid that. If you do something like I show you in the screenshoot, they will have more time to react

- Maybe the patterns on Kiai are monotonus and repetitive, but I don't have nothing to point out with there
• 02:17:203 (1): Replace this Slider to a Simple Note on the beginning because doesn't follow the same as your previous patterns, also it's good to make an Stop, a lot of 1/1 patterns are not good remember that this is your easiest diff on the mapset
• 02:21:318 (2): The Shape of this Slider can cause confusion in Newbies, is strange to add it on the Easiest diff. Try to change to another thing, will look better in my opinion and they will not any problem on read that
• 02:25:775 (2): Remove this Note, same reason as 02:17:203
• 02:28:518 (2): (^)

- Not bad but sometime it looks a bit Hard to be the easiest diff. on the mapset (especially on the section after to the last kiai where you use a lot of pattern in 1/1 with BPM 175), otherwhise it looks fine to me :)

[Lize's Hard:]

Settings:
--> The Approach Rate is low, looks bad at the time to play the map, things in 1/1 and 1/2 sometimes are Hard to read because the AR is low. I highly recommend to increase it by 1 Tick (AR+1

1/4 Stuff
Remove these Sliders in 1/4, they really don't work very well with the song and also it's just a Hard difficulty so you can make better patterns in 1/2 instead of 1/4. Almost all of them sound bad in my opinion, let me mention them:
00:06:232
00:07:603
00:11:718
00:13:089
00:19:946
02:02:289
02:05:718 - All of these has a repetition overmaped, the second repetition in a blue tick it doesn't sound on the music, and this is wrong, really. Try to avoid that, as I said before 1/2 patterns work better in this kind of difficulties

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00:19:261
00:40:689 - This one is here just to keep the symetry
01:08:118 - Those Sliders are completly overmapping the rhythm, all the blue ticks are not on the music. You must replace that to a 1/2 Slider

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01:19:518
01:25:003
01:41:461
01:46:946
02:03:489
02:08:975 - Blue Tick is Overmaping the map, a note in a Downbeat is more than enough
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01:22:689
01:23:675 - First repetition on the blue tick it doesn't playing with the music, you have to change that

Well that's it with the overmap. All of these should be changed (the only patterns that you can keep are the wrote on Normal letter, because it's appear a little sound on them blue ticks, but things in Bold and Red must be changed. A little advice, listen the music in 25% speed to be sure where you add 1/4 patterns, to don't overmap, this is the best way.

• 00:03:489 (x): You should add a Note here, sounds preety fine with the music also following the thing that you want to follow, really
• 00:04:861 (x): (^)
• 00:28:861 (1): I can't see really necesary a finish on this Note, the instrumental doesn't hit too loud and is better to add Finishes with the SB effect. So, I'd replace the finish to a Whistle here.
• 00:35:718 (1): (^)
• 00:42:918 (4): This is the only Slider with more than a repetition in all the map, so this don't look preety fine and don't work a lot. Would be better if you delete the last repetition and then add a Note on 00:43:946
• 00:44:632 (1): I don't like how to sound this Slider ending on the Red Tick. Works better if you reduce it by 1/2 (So, this Slider would finish on 00:44:975) and then add a Note on 00:45:146. Fit better with the Vocal
• 00:45:832 (x): Add a Note, fit better with the Vocal
• 00:51:318 (4,5): Remove the Whistle on (4) and add it on the beginning of (5), fit better with the Instrumental in this case
• 00:56:803 (4,5): (^)
• 01:09:832 (3): A Reverse Selection (Ctrl + R) in this Slider works preety fine, a little jump fit perfectly with the song and also it looks more esthetic. Try it and look it by yourself
• 01:13:603 (3,1): Bad Overlap during the gamplay, try to avoid that moving (1) some grids down or like you want it but right now it doesn't look fine
• 01:17:203 (1,2,3,4,5): To be sincere, I hope a better thing. This don't flow well, in this case you should follow the music on all the aspects, try to do something like this Rhythm
• 01:34:518 (2): Soft Whistle on the Beginning instead of the end of this Slider
• 01:47:889 (2): For a better flow, move this Note to x:256 y:36
• 01:53:375 (x): Add a Note, the stop is way too much but the music is still here. So to reduce the stop, the Note works properly
• 02:09:318 (T): I don't understand the Slider Speed change, first of all 0.50x means that the change on the music is preety high but listen the music it sounds always of the same form. Remove the Inherited Timing Point (green line) and keep the same velocity.
• 02:18:232 (3): This 1/2 Slider with the Repetition doesn't fit fine, really. If you want to follow the Background of the song on a good way (because it is the most important here) you should remove the Repetition and then add a Note on 02:18:746
• 02:30:661 (x): Add a Note.

- This map looks weird, there is a bad variety between undermap and overmap, this plays preety bad. I tried to fix these things on my mod but this really need much more work and mods to avoid that and make the map more enjoyable.

[Insane:]

Settings:
--> Really, AR9 doesn't fit here, the Notes appear too fast comparing with the BPM specially on the Streams, you should reduce it by 1 Tick the patterns are easier to read (AR-1)

• 00:05:718 (1,2): Flow better if you increase the distance between these Notes, at least to 2.00x like the previous (1,2), feels better in my opinion.
• 00:24:918 (1,2): (^)
• 00:26:289 (1,2): (^)
• 00:35:889 (1,2): (^)
• 00:37:261 (1,2): (^)
• 00:45:318 (3): Fit better with the Vocal if you reduce it by 1/2 and then add a Note in 00:45:832
• 00:46:689 (1): Sounds better if you Remove the Finish on the beginning
• 00:50:803 (4,5): You just overmap to make a 'esthetic' pattern and for symetry, I can't find another good reason to overmap like this. Another reason, maybe you can make a Hard pattern but the overmap is not the best way. Just use the same place of Notes (in the Timeline) like the Hard difficulty.

- Ok, I'm preety tired to continue. This kind of difficulties are like the players doesn't enjoy a lot in my opinion. A lot of Stops in 1/2 but then full of 1/4 patterns, in this Insane you can make more variety and use more 1/2 pattern and not using only the Background of the song.

Well, That's all Katty! :3
This map still needs more improvments
Good Luck on it ;)
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thank you again ^^ some fixed~
rickyboi
:) Hi Katty Pie! o/

here's that mod4mod, sorry for being a bit late kinda busy with work :c


General
Your volume is kinda low for 70% imo, How about using 80 or 85% ?

Normal
00:18:232 (4) - Nazi, just move this 1 grid down for symmetry.
00:44:632 (1) - This rythm kinda bothers me, I think it doesn't seem to fit the music very well. This might be better http://puu.sh/12cAW
00:55:603 (1) - ^ Same.
01:08:975 (3) - CTRL + H ? Also you should move this a little bit further away from the previous note for a better flow.

Lize's Hard
AR + 1
00:22:861 (3) - move a bit to the right like this? http://puu.sh/12cHi A straight pattern looks kinda dull.
00:24:233 (3) - ^ same, but this time move it a bit to the left.
00:42:918 (4) - Minus 1 reverse please?
00:44:632 (1) - How about adding a curve on this slider so it'll fit with the following two notes better?
01:02:289 (1) - Stacking it with the slider seems to look better.
01:02:460 (2) - This doesn't look good. Maybe a simple curved slider would do.
01:37:089 (3) - Doesn't play smoothly. How about this? http://puu.sh/12cNd
02:18:232 (3) - Reverse arrow is being covered by your previous slider.

Insane
Couldn't really find anything that bothers me since I FC'd it on my first test play but I tried changing the AR to 9 for a second run.
First try was AR 8 - I got 96%
Second try was AR 9 - I got 99%
So yeah maybe change it to AR 9? just like Shiirn's ranked Noisestorm maps?

Good luck with this!
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thank you for mod ^^ some fixed~
Lizellota
Some fixed, thanks for mod.
alacat
Hi:3 Katty Pie ~

m4m (ノ・ˇ∀ˇ・)ノ

[General]
●I think Combo Colour 2 and 6 are similar.


[Normal]
●00:19:261 (1) - add whistle or finish ?
●00:27:489 (1) - add finish
●00:44:632 (1) - try this ? follow Lyrics
and add whistle on the slider's reverse.
●00:55:603 (1) - same here ~ 00:44:632 (1) -
●01:01:775 (1) - Ctrl + R ? I think it will be easier to spin
●01:06:575 (1) - Too soon after spinner.
●02:07:603 (3,1,2,3,4) - this part is too hard for beginner.make some slider !
●02:19:946 (4,1) - switch these newcombos for your pattern? although i think the current one looks better.
●02:31:946 (4) - This note is hidden . maybe , confusing many beginners

[Lize's Hard]
●00:12:403 (3,1) - switch these newcombos for your pattern?
●01:37:089 (3) - try this ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/424023
●02:30:575 (4,5) - Hmm, it doesn't follow the music well. I hope you remove this and try making another pattern.
try this ?
like this pattern of here 01:19:089 (2,3,4) -

[Insane]
●00:07:432 (3,6) - spacing too close (0.73x) it is better to use DS0.64~0.67x .looks better
●00:11:032 (5,1) - switch these newcombos for your pattern? This according to the finish sound
●00:32:975 (5,1) - ^same , here
●00:46:003 (1) - remove finish on the slider's end? or use lower volume? since the melody is calmer than previous part.
●00:52:175 (8) - ^same , here
●00:59:718 (5) - add new combo
●01:30:061 (7,8,9) - 1 grid down ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/424032
●02:25:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - sorry for nazi, but they shouldn't be stacked better imo , Ctrl + H ?

poor english... sorry

good luck ^^
Steph De Chine
From Steph's Queue

Normal
00:28:861 (3,4) - 可以在中间加个Anchor,让它们的弯曲程度和5差不多

Hard
00:08:289 (1,2,3,4,1) - 太直了,可以把它们弄弯点吗?像个风车那样
01:53:203 - 这里能加一个吗?空空的,有些难受
02:08:718 (3) - 位置很难受啊,移到02:08:889吧~
02:08:889 (4) - 太短了,延长到02:09:146

Insane还不错,暂时我发现不了什么错~~是我水平太渣么 :?
Charles445
Had a quick look at the Insane diff, here's my thoughts. Please don't skim these, they're all important.

It's very frustrating that the map skips many mappable beats but still has streams.
For example, 01:06:575 (3,4,5,6,7) - is a stream while 01:07:089 - has no beat. This just makes the overall beat feel... choppy.
A big reason why Shiirn's Noisestorm maps were so popular was that he mapped as many red ticks as possible. He keeps the beat going consistently.

Another side effect of skipping beats is the map changes difficulty where it does not fit.
For example, 00:04:175 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - is an extremely easy portion followed immediately by 00:06:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - a large stream.

Speaking of streams, a lot of them are not intuitive and end up being harder to play/read than they should be.
For example, 01:16:861 (1,2,3,4,5) - puts 1/4 sliders on blue ticks. This requires the player to be tapping on the blue ticks, which makes the pattern feel offbeat. It would be much better if the 1/4 sliders started on red or whites.

Another thing to note, 00:50:118 (1,2,3,4,5) - This is blatantly overmapping - many of the objects don't match any beat in the music.

The sliders at 00:58:003 (1,2,3) - start on white ticks to the vocals, but immediately after begin on red ticks at 01:00:232 (8,1,2,3) - . There isn't any good reason for this to happen - it's inconsistent and awkward.

The slider speed change at 00:46:003 (1) - gets me every time. The ticks are BARELY visible because you set the slider color to white.
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thx all for mod^^ some fixed~

P.S Charles I know that you mean, but I don't want make copy Shiirn's maps~ I added notes on red ticks~ Sounds a little better yes, Streams with sliders 1/4 hm... I think It more playable what if I will be put note after 2 sliders and note~ Music has a hard rhythm and easier beat 3 sliders what mix slider+note~
Fixed all =P
thank you :3
Chyo-Kun
Little mod from #modreqs ^w^

[General]
When the girl say "take me away from here" In the SB isn't better to use another font? (just my opinion)

[Normal]

01:24:061 (4) - NC here
02:07:946 (1) - Remove NC here and add here 02:07:603 (3) -
02:19:946 (1) - Remove NC here?

Nothing else on Normal,really WELL made.

[Lize's Hard]

00:11:032 (1) - Why NC here?
01:04:689 (1) - Sometimes remove the sound of the end of a slider is unrankable,watch out
01:12:061 (1,2,3,4) - Isn't this part a little too difficoult for a hard?
01:53:546 (2) - Distance snap on this beat,unrankable

[Insane]

Looks fine

Those are just suggestions.

Really GOOD map! Starr'd
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thx for mod~ fixed all on normal~
Raimon
Like I already told you, I love it, star for you ^^
Topic Starter
Poggo

Raimon wrote:

Like I already told you, I love it, star for you ^^
Thank you moe :3
giO-
Hello Katty Pie, here's my mod as we accorded (M4M with Renard - Smoke Tower)


Normal

00:01:432 (2) - fix this slider, isn't symmetric, just fix this point http://puu.sh/14Fp5 on x:256 y:52
00:18:232 (4) - add clap here
00:28:861 (3,4) - delete both, sound weird and copy'n'paste those 00:27:489 (1,2) - with same hitsounds, result: http://puu.sh/14FrT and fix them doing something like this: http://puu.sh/14Fs3 , of course fix the spacing of 00:30:232 (1) - (x:484 y:68)
01:03:489 (1) - make this spinner finish on 01:05:546 - and add beat on 01:05:889 - , sound better to me

Lize's Hard

AR +1 is really better

00:06:232 (2) - delete 2 repeats and add beat note here 00:06:575 - with clap http://puu.sh/14Fvp
00:07:603 (2) - same thing as above ^ , sound better than 3 repeats
00:11:718 (2) - ^
00:13:089 (1) - ^ just do as above or something similar
00:19:261 (1) - ^
00:38:975 (2) - ^
00:40:689 (6) - ^ don't fit with rhytm
00:43:946 - add beat
00:45:318 (2,3) - delete both and add a mini slider instead, http://puu.sh/14Fyt
01:22:689 (1,2) - mmm
02:15:489 (3) - CTRL+R it
02:25:432 (5) - ^

Insane

00:13:517 (10) - delete this note
00:50:461 - from here do something like this, sound better to me http://puu.sh/14FBN , just move both sliders 00:50:803 (3,4) - 2 tick backwards and add note on 00:51:318 - 00:51:403 -
01:30:575 (1,2,3,4) - don't really like this
01:33:832 (2) - CTRL+R this
01:35:203 (2) - ^
01:36:575 (2) - ^
01:43:518 (3,4) - uhu same opinion as above
01:44:803 (2) - CTRL+R it
01:47:032 (1,2) - they look better if you CTRL+R them

That's all, good luck! ;)
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thank you ^^ some fixed~ :oops:
Lizellota
Made some changes, thanks for the mods
http://puu.sh/14Zum
congaan
hi
[Normal]
in easiest diff, would be better to avoid skins after spinner to make more beautiful http://puu.sh/19k2Q
and same as hard diff, you can snap kiai time if you want. but no affect on play

[Lize's Hard]
00:44:632 (1,2,3,4) - delete them
and start break time here 00:44:632. SB and sectionpass would do nice work. like this http://puu.sh/19jOs
please dont forget to delete useless green lines if you delete notes.
and if you want , you can snap next start of kiai
01:24:832 (4) - this stacked note is too hard to read for first play. http://puu.sh/19jRG
02:08:289 (2,3) - ^
01:46:689 (6,7) - make symmetrical formation http://puu.sh/19kii
02:03:146 (4,5,6) - swap the position of (4.5) and (6) to read easier?

[Insane]
02:01:261 (2,3) - from mouse movement point of view, this stack in not good for me.maybe confuse some players since that breaks previous pattern.

that's all. sorry for my pooor >:(
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thank you for mod ^^ Updated~
Kiss Shot-sama
Very good song 8-)
Lizellota
http://puu.sh/1aGic thanks for the mods~
To Katty:
Извини няш ></ забыла залить и скинуть тебе ТwТ
GamerX4life
let's go:

(only suggestions)

[Insane]
  1. 00:07:861 i would delete (6,7) and put the slider (8) to this point+ add 1 repeat maybe use this pattern:
    344,224,7432,1,0,0:0
    300,216,7518,1,0,0:0
    264,192,7603,1,0,0:0
    248,148,7689,1,0,0:0
    244,104,7775,2,0,B|257:47|200:34,2,90,0|8|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0
  2. 00:50:118 (1,2) 1 x:166 y:76 and 2 x:346 y:76
  3. or this: http://puu.sh/1cCTv
  4. 01:24:661 add note?
  5. 02:01:261 this: http://puu.sh/1cCVu instead of the cirlces?
  6. 02:04:003 same^
  7. 02:25:175 add note instead of repeat
  8. 02:30:661 add note instead of 02:30:746
[Lize's Hard]
  1. 00:06:232 i would prefer this: http://puu.sh/1cCXA
  2. 00:07:603 same^
  3. 00:11:718 same^ (i won't mention it anymore)
  4. 00:40:689 this doesn't fit to the music imo try this: http://puu.sh/1cDTc (this wouldn't totally destroy the pattern)
  5. 01:18:403 try this: http://puu.sh/1cDVj
  6. 01:30:575 to 01:31:946 i would map this part without a spinner
  7. 01:53:203 try this: http://puu.sh/1cDXU
[Normal]
  1. 00:00:061 (1,2) the sliders aren't perfectly symmetric, so pls use this:
    168,240,61,6,0,B|168:300|204:328|256:347|256:347|308:328|344:300|344:240,1,300,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0
    311,148,1432,2,0,B|311:108|291:76|256:53|220:76|200:108|200:148,1,200
  2. everything else seems perfect
Star~
Hope it helps and Good Luck!
Topic Starter
Poggo
Thx~ some fixed
HeartANDu
Привет!
Мапа получилась очень даже хорошей, хотя и есть несколько моментов, что смутили меня. Ниже я их опишу для каждой диффы.

Normal

Здесь вроде все в порядке, хорошая диффа.

Hard

  1. 00:33:661 (2,3) и 00:35:032 (2,3) - после монотонного начала не сразу ясно, что тут нужно ускориться. Возможно стоит добавить немного таких же стримов до этого момента, чтобы разбавить скуку.
  2. 00:38:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - та же история.
  3. 01:32:803 (2) - из-за предыдущего спиннера (а точнее иконки 300 или что там выпадет) не видно круга. Возможно, его стоит перенести под предыдущий слайдер вот так http://puu.sh/1dgWW

Insane

  1. 00:50:118 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - возможно, стоит переделать этот момент так, чтобы круги и слайдеры попадали в такт с мелодией. Иначе не очень ясно, что там нужно быстро тыкнуть эти два слайдера.
  2. 01:08:203 (7,8) - лично для меня этот стрим (и множество таких же) заканчивается несколько неудобным образом. Возможно стоит заменить эти два круга на слайдер той же длины.
  3. 01:43:518 (3,4,5,6) - в этом стриме лучше подойдет поменять местами третий слайдер с кругами 5 и 6. Таким образом получится более интуитивно понятный стрим.
Хорошая карта, хорошая песня. Мне нравится. Удачи! ;)
119410501
Awesome song, good luck ^^
Kiss Shot-sama
Cmon i want this song out and i wanna play it!!! :)
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