Questions about fixed bpm speed

XVX Arcane

Joined October 2018

Topic Starter

XVX Arcane 2019-08-29T00:21:21+00:00

Problem details:
Ok, so I had been playing osu on and off for around 9 months. I wasn't good, but not absolutely terrible (easy S on 2-2.5* maps, A-B on 2.5-3.5* maps). Now that I am actually looking to regularly play the game, I found out about this little thing called fixed vs scaled bpm. Had no idea this existed and it's awesome.

I know you're supposed to start out at like 10 or something like that, but playing maps (in particular fast ones) at under 20 bpm feels really weird and I get a really bad rank compared to some of mine before scaled bpm. what can I do so I can still consistently progress through the game? Lower and deal with it? Put it at like 25? 20? 15? I don't really know what to do here.
Any help given would be great. Thanks.

Edit: Thanks a lot for all the feedback received on this post! I'll make sure to use the advice you guys have given.

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Last edited by XVX Arcane 2019-09-03T21:48:56+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ska

291 posts

Joined June 2017

Ska 2019-08-29T07:09:01+00:00

nah its cool you can set it to whatever youre comfortable with, starting up slow is just if you really need it, but defo not necessary

Yyorshire

213 posts

Joined September 2015

Yyorshire 2019-08-29T13:53:28+00:00

fixed scroll speed as default when

literally no new player knows about it until they talk to someone who does

why is osumania so poorly thought out

Lights

683 posts

Joined December 2016

Lights 2019-08-29T21:30:56+00:00

Yyorshire wrote:
fixed scroll speed as default when

literally no new player knows about it until they talk to someone who does

why is osumania so poorly thought out

it often feels like the people who are developing the game mode have never played a VSRG before

h̸̸̷̴̷̶̸̸̷̷̷̸̷̶̴̵̸̴̸̶̶̴̸̴̶̶̵̸̷̶̴̵̶̸̶̷̶̸̸̴̸̴̵̸̶̴̴̶̵̶̴̴̶̷̵̴̸̶̸̷̸̴̶̴̷̴̷̴̸̵̶̸̸̶̶̷̷̵̵̶̷̶̴̵̵̴̴̷̸̸̴̷̴̵̷̶̶̴̵̸̶̷̴̵̷̶̶̶̶̷̶̴̸̸̷̷̴̷̴̷̷̸̵̸̵̷̶̸̵̸̵̵̵̷̶̶̶̸̴̷̷̶̸̴̵̸̵̷̴̷̷̶̷̴̴̴̸̶̷̶̷̷̷̷̶̷̶̵̵̴̸̶̷̶̶̸̶̶̵̵̷̸̵̵̵̶̶̴̷̸̶̴̴̶̷̸̵̸̴̵̴̸̸̷̷̶̵̶̷̸̷̷̴̷̷̵̸̸̷̸̶̸̷̵̸̴̷̸̴̸̵̶̶̷̵̸̨̨̢̨̧̧̧̧̡̡̨̢̢̢̡̢̨̡̨̡̨̢̨̨̢̨̨̨̧̧̛̛̛̛̛̛̛̝̗̝̬̰̱͇̹̻̲̯͇̱̲̜̩͇͕͓̣͎͇̲̥̞̤̭̝̟̪̮̖͓̰̱̞͔̟͔̠͖̻̮̩̳̖̥͕͔̳̠̫̰̤͈̹̳̜̭̼̲͍̭̙͚̳̩̩̲͎̤̪͙̘̬̜̹̙̪̥̜͕̖̬̮͉͚̩̳͈̣̪̤̩̦͉͓̙̳̭͓̫̜̟̯̹͍͎̰̰̱͍̫̞̙͉͍͙̝̜͈̤͇̗̝͈͉̹̙̳̘̪͎̼͕̠̭̞̥̹̳̫̺͎͚̞̮̣̫̻̪͔͎̗̻̱͔̞͖̖̜̠̯̥͚͕̲̝̤̙̹̤͍̟͇̹̲̩͈̤̭͚̯͕̜̜̭̭̦̲̰̦͖̘̗̤̱͔̯̟͇̤̮̱̫̫̦̼̻̣̗̬̗̼̠͈̠̙͖̟̗̻͇̰̖̥̱͙̣̞̯͍̭̮͕̭͕͎̤̥̭̤͙̬̺̯͉̬̬̝̣̗͚̞͙͉̼̮̘̱̘̼̘̹͕̪̦͍̝̜̝̜̰͉̪̮̭͍̺͔͖̺̙̲̪̮̫̙͍̜̯̮̝̲͉̤̪͈̘̜̮̤̮̯̜͉̦͗͆̂̓̿̀͐̈́̅̓̀͊͊̉̇̎͛̍̓̇͛́̐͊̈́̍̉͐̐̆̅́̈́͊̐̓̄̑̍͒͑̊̓̆̆̉̾́͒͛͛͐̋͑̋̈́̈́́̈̀̌̑̒̌̆̐̀͌̄̈́̈̂͑͂̐̎̐̃̂́͂̊̏͆͋͊̑̄̇̄̽̀̅͐̅̍̋̄̃́̉̐̑͗̒́̾̂̌̏̊̅̇̏͊̽͗͗̆͐͂́̋͑̽̄̃͑̒̔̀̆̈̀̾̄̇͂̍͂̈͛̓̾̉̄̀̂̂̅̃̔͒͊̑͒̈́͆͐̅̈́́͑̍͗͑̽̈́̀́͐͑̄̉͒̃̈́͑͒́̍̒̇́̾́̆̍͊́̎͒́͛͋͊̆̓̓̑͊͂̊̽̌̈̅̊͋̌̉͗̉͆̒́͊͆̿̈́̒̋́̄̍̊̀̍́̂̍̾̔̀́̎͊͊̀̎̈́̋̆̅̈́̈́̓͆̊͒̅͂̈̑́̋̆̆͑͛̐̐͂̎̈́̎͒̐̉̈́͛̈́̒̃̈́́̀͒̀̄͋̓́̐̐͘̕̚͘̚͘͘͘͘͘̕̕̕̕͘͘̚̚͘̕̕̚͘̕͜͜͜͜͜͜͜͠͝͠͠͠͠͝͠͝͝͠͠͝͠͝͠͝͝͠͠͠͝͠͠͠͝͝ͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅellowo

Hydria

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Hydria 2019-08-31T19:41:09+00:00

set fixed scroll speed to whatever you're comfortable with, I know players in a range of 18-35 so keep trying until you're comfortable, it'll prob change a lot whilst you progress as well so don't feel like you have to keep to one speed either

Bobbias

1,447 posts

Joined March 2011

Bobbias 2019-08-31T21:47:38+00:00

im_Lights wrote:
it often feels like the people who are developing the game mode have never played a VSRG before

Peppy refuses to make fixed speeds default because beatmania uses BPM scaled speeds. It's not poorly thought out, but an entirely intentional decision.

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Lights

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Lights 2019-09-01T13:43:04+00:00

Bobbias wrote:
im_Lights wrote:
it often feels like the people who are developing the game mode have never played a VSRG before

Peppy refuses to make fixed speeds default because beatmania uses BPM scaled speeds. It's not poorly thought out, but an entirely intentional decision.

I can name more VSRGs that dont use BPM scaling as the default than do, why is that one game so important to how osu is designed

h̸̸̷̴̷̶̸̸̷̷̷̸̷̶̴̵̸̴̸̶̶̴̸̴̶̶̵̸̷̶̴̵̶̸̶̷̶̸̸̴̸̴̵̸̶̴̴̶̵̶̴̴̶̷̵̴̸̶̸̷̸̴̶̴̷̴̷̴̸̵̶̸̸̶̶̷̷̵̵̶̷̶̴̵̵̴̴̷̸̸̴̷̴̵̷̶̶̴̵̸̶̷̴̵̷̶̶̶̶̷̶̴̸̸̷̷̴̷̴̷̷̸̵̸̵̷̶̸̵̸̵̵̵̷̶̶̶̸̴̷̷̶̸̴̵̸̵̷̴̷̷̶̷̴̴̴̸̶̷̶̷̷̷̷̶̷̶̵̵̴̸̶̷̶̶̸̶̶̵̵̷̸̵̵̵̶̶̴̷̸̶̴̴̶̷̸̵̸̴̵̴̸̸̷̷̶̵̶̷̸̷̷̴̷̷̵̸̸̷̸̶̸̷̵̸̴̷̸̴̸̵̶̶̷̵̸̨̨̢̨̧̧̧̧̡̡̨̢̢̢̡̢̨̡̨̡̨̢̨̨̢̨̨̨̧̧̛̛̛̛̛̛̛̝̗̝̬̰̱͇̹̻̲̯͇̱̲̜̩͇͕͓̣͎͇̲̥̞̤̭̝̟̪̮̖͓̰̱̞͔̟͔̠͖̻̮̩̳̖̥͕͔̳̠̫̰̤͈̹̳̜̭̼̲͍̭̙͚̳̩̩̲͎̤̪͙̘̬̜̹̙̪̥̜͕̖̬̮͉͚̩̳͈̣̪̤̩̦͉͓̙̳̭͓̫̜̟̯̹͍͎̰̰̱͍̫̞̙͉͍͙̝̜͈̤͇̗̝͈͉̹̙̳̘̪͎̼͕̠̭̞̥̹̳̫̺͎͚̞̮̣̫̻̪͔͎̗̻̱͔̞͖̖̜̠̯̥͚͕̲̝̤̙̹̤͍̟͇̹̲̩͈̤̭͚̯͕̜̜̭̭̦̲̰̦͖̘̗̤̱͔̯̟͇̤̮̱̫̫̦̼̻̣̗̬̗̼̠͈̠̙͖̟̗̻͇̰̖̥̱͙̣̞̯͍̭̮͕̭͕͎̤̥̭̤͙̬̺̯͉̬̬̝̣̗͚̞͙͉̼̮̘̱̘̼̘̹͕̪̦͍̝̜̝̜̰͉̪̮̭͍̺͔͖̺̙̲̪̮̫̙͍̜̯̮̝̲͉̤̪͈̘̜̮̤̮̯̜͉̦͗͆̂̓̿̀͐̈́̅̓̀͊͊̉̇̎͛̍̓̇͛́̐͊̈́̍̉͐̐̆̅́̈́͊̐̓̄̑̍͒͑̊̓̆̆̉̾́͒͛͛͐̋͑̋̈́̈́́̈̀̌̑̒̌̆̐̀͌̄̈́̈̂͑͂̐̎̐̃̂́͂̊̏͆͋͊̑̄̇̄̽̀̅͐̅̍̋̄̃́̉̐̑͗̒́̾̂̌̏̊̅̇̏͊̽͗͗̆͐͂́̋͑̽̄̃͑̒̔̀̆̈̀̾̄̇͂̍͂̈͛̓̾̉̄̀̂̂̅̃̔͒͊̑͒̈́͆͐̅̈́́͑̍͗͑̽̈́̀́͐͑̄̉͒̃̈́͑͒́̍̒̇́̾́̆̍͊́̎͒́͛͋͊̆̓̓̑͊͂̊̽̌̈̅̊͋̌̉͗̉͆̒́͊͆̿̈́̒̋́̄̍̊̀̍́̂̍̾̔̀́̎͊͊̀̎̈́̋̆̅̈́̈́̓͆̊͒̅͂̈̑́̋̆̆͑͛̐̐͂̎̈́̎͒̐̉̈́͛̈́̒̃̈́́̀͒̀̄͋̓́̐̐͘̕̚͘̚͘͘͘͘͘̕̕̕̕͘͘̚̚͘̕̕̚͘̕͜͜͜͜͜͜͜͠͝͠͠͠͠͝͠͝͝͠͠͝͠͝͠͝͝͠͠͠͝͠͠͠͝͝ͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅellowo

abraker

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abraker 2019-09-01T14:53:56+00:00

because that's the VRSG ppy played back then

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Yyorshire

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Yyorshire 2019-09-01T21:56:29+00:00

nice to see some nostalgia getting in the way of game design

the large majority of players that know what they are doing use fixed scroll speed, that should be the default no questions asked

Lights

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Lights 2019-09-01T22:00:42+00:00

Yyorshire wrote:
nice to see some nostalgia getting in the way of game design

the large majority of players that know what they are doing use fixed scroll speed, that should be the default no questions asked

agreed. there are some really minor changes that would vastly improve osu!mania as a game mode that appear to be ignored for the most asinine reasons

h̸̸̷̴̷̶̸̸̷̷̷̸̷̶̴̵̸̴̸̶̶̴̸̴̶̶̵̸̷̶̴̵̶̸̶̷̶̸̸̴̸̴̵̸̶̴̴̶̵̶̴̴̶̷̵̴̸̶̸̷̸̴̶̴̷̴̷̴̸̵̶̸̸̶̶̷̷̵̵̶̷̶̴̵̵̴̴̷̸̸̴̷̴̵̷̶̶̴̵̸̶̷̴̵̷̶̶̶̶̷̶̴̸̸̷̷̴̷̴̷̷̸̵̸̵̷̶̸̵̸̵̵̵̷̶̶̶̸̴̷̷̶̸̴̵̸̵̷̴̷̷̶̷̴̴̴̸̶̷̶̷̷̷̷̶̷̶̵̵̴̸̶̷̶̶̸̶̶̵̵̷̸̵̵̵̶̶̴̷̸̶̴̴̶̷̸̵̸̴̵̴̸̸̷̷̶̵̶̷̸̷̷̴̷̷̵̸̸̷̸̶̸̷̵̸̴̷̸̴̸̵̶̶̷̵̸̨̨̢̨̧̧̧̧̡̡̨̢̢̢̡̢̨̡̨̡̨̢̨̨̢̨̨̨̧̧̛̛̛̛̛̛̛̝̗̝̬̰̱͇̹̻̲̯͇̱̲̜̩͇͕͓̣͎͇̲̥̞̤̭̝̟̪̮̖͓̰̱̞͔̟͔̠͖̻̮̩̳̖̥͕͔̳̠̫̰̤͈̹̳̜̭̼̲͍̭̙͚̳̩̩̲͎̤̪͙̘̬̜̹̙̪̥̜͕̖̬̮͉͚̩̳͈̣̪̤̩̦͉͓̙̳̭͓̫̜̟̯̹͍͎̰̰̱͍̫̞̙͉͍͙̝̜͈̤͇̗̝͈͉̹̙̳̘̪͎̼͕̠̭̞̥̹̳̫̺͎͚̞̮̣̫̻̪͔͎̗̻̱͔̞͖̖̜̠̯̥͚͕̲̝̤̙̹̤͍̟͇̹̲̩͈̤̭͚̯͕̜̜̭̭̦̲̰̦͖̘̗̤̱͔̯̟͇̤̮̱̫̫̦̼̻̣̗̬̗̼̠͈̠̙͖̟̗̻͇̰̖̥̱͙̣̞̯͍̭̮͕̭͕͎̤̥̭̤͙̬̺̯͉̬̬̝̣̗͚̞͙͉̼̮̘̱̘̼̘̹͕̪̦͍̝̜̝̜̰͉̪̮̭͍̺͔͖̺̙̲̪̮̫̙͍̜̯̮̝̲͉̤̪͈̘̜̮̤̮̯̜͉̦͗͆̂̓̿̀͐̈́̅̓̀͊͊̉̇̎͛̍̓̇͛́̐͊̈́̍̉͐̐̆̅́̈́͊̐̓̄̑̍͒͑̊̓̆̆̉̾́͒͛͛͐̋͑̋̈́̈́́̈̀̌̑̒̌̆̐̀͌̄̈́̈̂͑͂̐̎̐̃̂́͂̊̏͆͋͊̑̄̇̄̽̀̅͐̅̍̋̄̃́̉̐̑͗̒́̾̂̌̏̊̅̇̏͊̽͗͗̆͐͂́̋͑̽̄̃͑̒̔̀̆̈̀̾̄̇͂̍͂̈͛̓̾̉̄̀̂̂̅̃̔͒͊̑͒̈́͆͐̅̈́́͑̍͗͑̽̈́̀́͐͑̄̉͒̃̈́͑͒́̍̒̇́̾́̆̍͊́̎͒́͛͋͊̆̓̓̑͊͂̊̽̌̈̅̊͋̌̉͗̉͆̒́͊͆̿̈́̒̋́̄̍̊̀̍́̂̍̾̔̀́̎͊͊̀̎̈́̋̆̅̈́̈́̓͆̊͒̅͂̈̑́̋̆̆͑͛̐̐͂̎̈́̎͒̐̉̈́͛̈́̒̃̈́́̀͒̀̄͋̓́̐̐͘̕̚͘̚͘͘͘͘͘̕̕̕̕͘͘̚̚͘̕̕̚͘̕͜͜͜͜͜͜͜͠͝͠͠͠͠͝͠͝͝͠͠͝͠͝͠͝͝͠͠͠͝͠͠͠͝͝ͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅellowo

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