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Loctav
http://puu.sh/2t987

Hi - renamed diff, fixed SB/BG. :D
musoraninn
i think i am w8ing this map already 6 months :)) Grumd are u alive ?
Topic Starter
grumd

musoraninn wrote:

i think i am w8ing this map already 6 months :)) Grumd are u alive ?
Look at my avatar. I'm not.
musoraninn

grumd wrote:

musoraninn wrote:

i think i am w8ing this map already 6 months :)) Grumd are u alive ?
Look at my avatar. I'm not.
So...that is over ?:(
Topic Starter
grumd
The mapset is finished now.
zeroclover
just a quick mod and no problems only a suggestion

Hard :
01:39:390 (1) - , 02:45:597 (1) - ,and other similiar slider : ( -_- ) , grumd, do something abt this argh...
my idea is like 03:10:424 (1) - change into like this , (slider use 1/8beat) end with (2) for jump

or
change like this 03:43:528 (1,2) -

only that part is not fit to the song, in normal diff way, was better
normal and insane was epic, insane have many gay sliderbreak trap
-not mod taiko diffs
edit:

fffuuuuuuu, why Fatal Oni's BG pic have bug there
it forced into 4:3 orz

use this code to fix
[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"325103-1024x768.jpg",1,1
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
Sprite,Background,Centre,"325103-1024x768.jpg",320,240
F,0,-3000,261278,1
S,0,0,,0.825
R,0,0,1,1E-05,-1E-05
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"lu.png",320,240
M,0,-3023,,182,374
F,0,-3023,,0
S,0,-3023,,0.7
F,0,132502,132580,1
F,0,231804,,1
F,0,231804,231890,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"loc.png",320,240
M,0,-3023,,467,404
F,0,-3023,,0
S,0,-3023,,0.7
F,0,80,166,0,1
F,0,132407,132493,0.9767442,0
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,0,0,0
Topic Starter
grumd
Just a random mod, because i freaking love this map.

[Insane]
  1. I would change HP to something higher. Besides your Hard Diff has more HP Drain Rate than your Insane
    too much hitobjects in this diff, you fail quite easily with higher HP drain
  2. 00:01:114 (1), 00:03:183 (1), 00:05:252 (1), 00:07:321 (1), 00:09:390 (1), 00:11:459 (1), 00:13:528 (1) - I would add claps with Sampleset Normal, Additions Soft (You had Finished before previous update I think)
    beginning doesnt have such hard beats as later
  3. 00:11:286 (4) - Add Clap
  4. 00:32:148 (5) - Add Finish
  5. 00:56:286 (2) - Add Clap
  6. 01:00:424 (2) - Add Clap
  7. 01:00:769 (3) - Add Clap
  8. 01:01:459 (6) - Remove Clap
  9. 01:01:804 (8,9,10) - Remove Claps and add one to the second circle
  10. 01:03:183 (6) - Add Clap at end
  11. 01:08:011 (6) - Sampleset Auto, Addiotions Auto
  12. 01:16:631 (1) - Sampleset Normal, Additions Soft
  13. 01:17:666 (1) - Add Finish
  14. 01:22:321 (3) - Sampleset Normal, Additions Soft or Remove Clap at 01:21:286 (7)
  15. 01:27:235 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - I'd add whistle at 2,4,6 not 3,5,7 (Fits better to music imo)
  16. 01:29:045 (1) - I'd still add a Finish here
  17. 01:59:045 (5,6) - Overlap kinda looks ugly
  18. 02:33:355 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Add Whistle to every Circle
  19. 02:49:045 (3,4,5) - Why not stacked properly?
  20. 03:00:080 (1) - Why do you have a clap here, but not for example here: 02:58:011 (1)
  21. 03:45:597 (1) - Add Finish
  22. 03:51:804 - Is Kia Time going to stay like this?

    Just wow! I can't believe how much effort you've put into this. Everything is so detailed, especially the hitsounds. Currently my favourite map in osu!


[Hard]
  1. Okay, since the hitsounds aren't finished yet, I got nothing to complain here. If you liked my mod for Insane (as if lol), feel free to ask for another mod for Hard, after you finished the hitsounds.



I hope I was of any help.
Good Luck!
Thanks for the mod! Didn't comment hitsounds suggestions, applied nearly half of them.

@zeroclover:
Thanks for the mod, but I don't think that sliders in Hard are any bad, I'm keeping them.
Fatal Oni 3:4 ratio is not a bug, it's because this diff uses storyboard. Your code doesn't help at all, because different people have different screen aspect ratio and your code only fixes it for your screen. I'm keeping 3:4.
Nemis
[General]
* Letterbox conflicts in the Taiko difficulties.

[Insane]
* Use HP5 or HP6, HP4 means complete the map for free :(
* 00:07:666 (2,3,1) - In my opinion a jump here would be fun to play.
* 00:20:769 (1,3) - I'd remove the overlap here, so I suggest to make a blanket:
* 00:41:631 (2,3) - I suggest to reverse these beats, 00:41:976 (4,5) - these too.
* 01:22:493 (5) - I suggest to add a whistle here.
* 02:25:597 (9) - I sueest to reverse this slider.
* 02:41:286 (7,1) - Why don't you stack their head how you did until now?
* 02:49:045 (3,4,5) - This is not an error, but I don't understand why did you stack them manually. I suggest to stack them since this is not a pattern or blanket's big problem, it could confuse HR players in my opinion.
* 03:49:735 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This pattern is fucking awesome :Q_

[Hard]
* I suggest to use AR8, AR7 is a bit hard for this map. 02:46:631 (1) - This kiai says all :P With AR7 is not fun to play!
* 02:19:045 (2,3) - I'd stack the beat under the slider's end.

[Normal]
* I suggest to use AR4 and OD4, this is the easiest difficulty and these high values aren't needed!
* 00:08:355 (1) - Fix this form please:
* 02:11:459 (1) - I'd remove this slider, I don't think it's needed.
* 02:45:597 (1) - I suggest to add a whistle on this slider (body, head, reverses, end) as you did before (01:39:390 (1) - here).
zeroclover
who said it useless if u not try
Topic Starter
grumd

zeroclover wrote:

who said it useless if u not try
Your image scale doesn't depend on screen resolution. On 4:3 screens it will be bigger than the screen.
Topic Starter
grumd
[General]
* Letterbox conflicts in the Taiko difficulties.
letterboxes are ugly in taiko

[Insane]
* Use HP5 or HP6, HP4 means complete the map for free :(
did you try to play it? i still can't pass though i play it not that bad. because of the high object density HP drain is insane, and even while reduced to HP4 it falls down pretty fast. missing one slider results in getting it to half of the bar
* 00:07:666 (2,3,1) - In my opinion a jump here would be fun to play.
it would make an unfitting difference in map tension here
* 00:20:769 (1,3) - I'd remove the overlap here, so I suggest to make a blanket:
moved a bit
* 00:41:631 (2,3) - I suggest to reverse these beats, 00:41:976 (4,5) - these too.
sorry but what? i dont get it
* 01:22:493 (5) - I suggest to add a whistle here.
ok
* 02:25:597 (9) - I sueest to reverse this slider.
no
* 02:41:286 (7,1) - Why don't you stack their head how you did until now?
i really did? it fits anyway, not changing it
* 02:49:045 (3,4,5) - This is not an error, but I don't understand why did you stack them manually. I suggest to stack them since this is not a pattern or blanket's big problem, it could confuse HR players in my opinion.
what a crazy guy would play this with hr... changed
* 03:49:735 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - This pattern is fucking awesome :Q_
yey

[Hard]
* I suggest to use AR8, AR7 is a bit hard for this map. 02:46:631 (1) - This kiai says all :P With AR7 is not fun to play!
it was changed to AR7 to make the jump between hard and normal a bit smaller, but yeah reverted to ar8
* 02:19:045 (2,3) - I'd stack the beat under the slider's end.
there's no need for this, i never stack things like that

[Normal]
* I suggest to use AR4 and OD4, this is the easiest difficulty and these high values aren't needed!
okay
* 00:08:355 (1) - Fix this form please:
and now please explain why my shape is bad and yours is good. i see no real difference except that your shape has a bad curve, not even circular
* 02:11:459 (1) - I'd remove this slider, I don't think it's needed.
so you'd remove this but not this 03:34:217 (1) - ? well, i think they both are needed anyway
* 02:45:597 (1) - I suggest to add a whistle on this slider (body, head, reverses, end) as you did before (01:39:390 (1) - here).
erh, right, this was actually my mistake; my hitsounds copier doesn't work well

Thanks for the mod!
Stefan
Hi.

[Normal]
00:06:286 (1) - Are you sure that you don't want to add Whistle at the End? Currently if you hear to the Beat the Slider is like "..." In other words: It sounds empty and like something is forgotten here.
01:14:562 (2) - Personally I would wish that you do something similar as 01:06:286 (1) for the sake of the Music.
01:18:700 (2) - I am for the Rhythm that you extend the Slider to the next white Tick. It feels smoother to play and not so inconvenient imo.
01:39:390 (1) - That's already too risky for the Diff here. Since it's the easiest Diff in the Mapset I honestly wouldn't put this Repeat Slider there. Also because it feels quite fast and the transistion to the next Slider makes it "hard" enough for this Level.
01:50:769 (1) - Finish at the Begin? It sounds quite empty without it.
02:45:597 (1) - Same as 01:39:390 (1).
03:01:114 (1) - ^
02:52:838 (1) - Would actually sounds and play better if you end it on the next white Tick. But it's up to you.
03:48:700 (1,1,1) - Honestly the NC Spam isn't neccessary. It's not really interesting and looks more like this isn't purposed to do that.

[Muzukashii]
00:28:011 (141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148,149,150) - k ddd k d k d x d d fits better.
00:31:114 (156,157,158) - Is the Triplet really needed? I just ask because I honestly find the Triplet bad here and this part of the Music isn't really suitable for that.
00:51:804 (259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268) - d d k d d d k x d k d x d, the current Rhythm is quite weird. Maybe my rhythm feeling is just far away from yours. :P
00:55:942 (277,278,279,280) - d d k d k?
01:01:976 (306) - Maybe moving to 01:01:804?
01:23:528 (414,415,416) - I would perfer to make it more enjoyable kkk since you use ddd before and spamming that around isn't that good imo (It's still a Muzukashii Diff, so!)
01:24:045 (418) - The Combo itself is already very long and you really should give the Player a short time to rest. Remove this circle.
03:24:045 (194) - Move it to 03:24:217, sounds way better imo.
03:50:769 (344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355,356) - If you really want that the player should be animated to play this as 1/4 Stream then use a Sliderroll. Honestly this Stream is out of place in a Muzukashii.

I very like the Diff but I am afraid if people won't derp around that it's quite hard for a Muzukashii.

[Fatal Oni]
00:24:304 (1) - This sounds imo just that you try to make a long Stream that starts on the white big Tick (and it fits good actually) but this Circle here is just meh. Remove it (recommened) or change it to d. Because as k this feels bad to play.
Diff is moe ;v;

[Hard]
<I will mod it later>
kirinokirino
Hard
03:42:493 (1) - can you flip gorizontally it and replace to x:412 and y:292, ну пожаааалуйста, очень прошу...
Nemis

grumd wrote:

[Insane]
* 00:41:631 (2,3) - I suggest to reverse these beats, 00:41:976 (4,5) - these too.
sorry but what? i dont get it http://puu.sh/2Q4rt.jpg , I meant this succession :P
* 02:41:286 (7,1) - Why don't you stack their head how you did until now?
i really did? it fits anyway, not changing it my mistake, I got confused for 00:02:838 (3,1) - this :P

[Normal]
* 00:08:355 (1) - Fix this form please:
and now please explain why my shape is bad and yours is good. i see no real difference except that your shape has a bad curve, not even circular Iin my opinion sliders like this need a curve more curved, and I find this http://puu.sh/2Q4By.jpg a bad curve, this is just a suggestion :3
* 02:11:459 (1) - I'd remove this slider, I don't think it's needed.
so you'd remove this but not this 03:34:217 (1) - ? well, i think they both are needed anyway yes sorry... I meant 03:34:217 (1,2) - these two too >.<

Thanks for the mod!
Kokatsu
As requested.

General



No 16:9 BG? :/

Normal



00:06:286 (1) - Move the red sliderpoint to be in the middle of the slider?
00:25:942 (2) - Why is this not 1/2 longer? The sound on 00:26:631 seems stronger than the current end.
00:29:045 (1) - That curving seems a bit too much for me, smoothen it a bit?

00:45:597 (1) - The current curve looks weird and a bit confusing on first sight, maybe use this:

01:24:217 (2,3) - (nazi) Cover (3)'s Trail completely with (2)'s end.
01:39:390 (1) - I would split that up into multiple Sliders, since the 2cnd+ reverse are not really visible and for being the easiest diff in the set, that would be great.
02:45:597 (1) - ^
03:01:114 (1) - ^
03:51:804 (1) - You may want to use a spinner instead, for different scores, but finding a good ending is hard here IMO.

Hard



00:07:321 (4) - I'd add a NC here to underline the repeat in music/pattern.
01:05:252 (1) - Split this up into two sliders, like you did before?
03:10:424 (1) - Since this isn't "introduced" with a combocolor change, it's easily mistaken with a regular 1reverse slider (I did), maybe use a stream + kickslider instead?


03:42:493 (1) - ^
03:51:804 (6) - Again, Spinner maybe.

Insane



01:11:976 (6,7,1) - This felt wrong, because when taking spacing + optics into account, I'd expect (7) to have only one reverse, misleading into sudden misses. Probably remove two reverses and add a note on the blue tick instead.
01:32:148 (1) - It felt like this shape was out of place, since most shapes you use for longer sliders are either very basic or involve sharp movement (red sliderticks), you might want to adapt that.
03:09:045 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - I found that very unfitting in relation to the music. While this part here is overall pretty hard with lots of 1/4, 1/8 and jumps, this pattern is pretty simple, however, the music indicates rising tension with that rising "melody", I'd replace this pattern with single 1/4 sliderjumps with rising spacing, like you did just before, that would fit this part much better.

Muzukashii



00:48:700 (244,245,246) - Use dons instead, the high-pitch isn't that loud by now and dons fit the drums better.
00:49:735 (250) - Big kat? Would be a good finish for the prev. kats and amphesize the finisher in music.
00:53:700 (267) - Move this 1/2 earlier? Flows better IMO.
01:06:286 (325) - You're such a bored person. :DD
01:19:735 - this was a pretty long combo IMO, you might want to delete some notes to keep these small moments of rest, e.g. 01:24:217 (419) and/or 01:26:804 (435).
01:43:011 (518) - A don would fit nice here.
03:00:942 (81) - I'd remove this note to create more contrast between the previous and the following pattern.
03:44:562 (300,301,302,303,304,305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313) - This is pretty dense for a Muzu, consider splitting up one or both of the 5's to 3+1.
03:50:769 (344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355,356) - I'd really prefer to see a slider here.

Oni



OD+1? It would make some 1/6 patterns smoother to play and represent the difficulty of the map better.

00:15:597 (2,3,4,5,6,1,1,1,1) - kkkkdkdkd would fit better here, it's closer to the drums and fits better to the following kkd.
00:23:873 (2) - don, for consistency with the previous combo-end.
00:28:700 (1,1,1,1,1) - ddkdk? The extra kat feels unnecessary.
00:36:631 (2,1,2,3,1) - kddkd for some variety?
01:11:976 (2,3,4,1,1,1,1) - kkdkdkd would create a better transition here, IMO.
--
Sorry Loctav, only things in your part to find. :p
Streams are hard but doable and they fit pretty well, good job.~

Good luck.~
Topic Starter
grumd
Hi.

[Normal]
00:06:286 (1) - Are you sure that you don't want to add Whistle at the End? Currently if you hear to the Beat the Slider is like "..." In other words: It sounds empty and like something is forgotten here.
my hitsounds copying doesn't always work well, added whistle here ofc
01:14:562 (2) - Personally I would wish that you do something similar as 01:06:286 (1) for the sake of the Music.
done
01:18:700 (2) - I am for the Rhythm that you extend the Slider to the next white Tick. It feels smoother to play and not so inconvenient imo.
done something similar
01:39:390 (1) - That's already too risky for the Diff here. Since it's the easiest Diff in the Mapset I honestly wouldn't put this Repeat Slider there. Also because it feels quite fast and the transistion to the next Slider makes it "hard" enough for this Level.
hm, changed
01:50:769 (1) - Finish at the Begin? It sounds quite empty without it.
no, it's a different type of sound
02:45:597 (1) - Same as 01:39:390 (1).
ugu
03:01:114 (1) - ^
ugu
02:52:838 (1) - Would actually sounds and play better if you end it on the next white Tick. But it's up to you.
fixed
03:48:700 (1,1,1) - Honestly the NC Spam isn't neccessary. It's not really interesting and looks more like this isn't purposed to do that.
ok
Thank you for the mod, Stefan!

andrei7 wrote:

Hard
03:42:493 (1) - can you flip gorizontally it and replace to x:412 and y:292, ну пожаааалуйста, очень прошу...
Окей, пасиба.
@Nemis:
1. I don't like the big jumps like that
2. The curveness of that slider piece is just same as every usual slider:
As requested.

General



No 16:9 BG? :/
only for you, added

Normal



00:06:286 (1) - Move the red sliderpoint to be in the middle of the slider?
nop, this was intended
00:25:942 (2) - Why is this not 1/2 longer? The sound on 00:26:631 seems stronger than the current end.
sound at its end is quite unusual and it stands out pretty much, so i', emphasizing it
00:29:045 (1) - That curving seems a bit too much for me, smoothen it a bit?
the curves are not any curvier than my usual sliders
00:45:597 (1) - The current curve looks weird and a bit confusing on first sight, maybe use this:
i don't like your way, but tried to change my curve a bit
01:24:217 (2,3) - (nazi) Cover (3)'s Trail completely with (2)'s end.
eh but it's already done so i guess?
01:39:390 (1) - I would split that up into multiple Sliders, since the 2cnd+ reverse are not really visible and for being the easiest diff in the set, that would be great.
02:45:597 (1) - ^
03:01:114 (1) - ^
changed it at all
03:51:804 (1) - You may want to use a spinner instead, for different scores, but finding a good ending is hard here IMO.
i dont care about the scores, i will only place a spinner if i find a fitting place for it

Hard



00:07:321 (4) - I'd add a NC here to underline the repeat in music/pattern.
it ruins my custom comboing so i won't do this :(
01:05:252 (1) - Split this up into two sliders, like you did before?
nope, i like it the way it is now
03:10:424 (1) - Since this isn't "introduced" with a combocolor change, it's easily mistaken with a regular 1reverse slider (I did), maybe use a stream + kickslider instead?
you should not be confused with this just because of one simple reason. you see following objects after 1-reverse slider and you see nothing following this many-reverse slider. if you don't see objects after the kickslider, you don't release the button. pics:


03:42:493 (1) - ^
03:51:804 (6) - Again, Spinner maybe.
there's no good place for a spinner end there

Insane



01:11:976 (6,7,1) - This felt wrong, because when taking spacing + optics into account, I'd expect (7) to have only one reverse, misleading into sudden misses. Probably remove two reverses and add a note on the blue tick instead.
more importantly, the music rhythm is like that. changed
01:32:148 (1) - It felt like this shape was out of place, since most shapes you use for longer sliders are either very basic or involve sharp movement (red sliderticks), you might want to adapt that.
nah, it's cool
03:09:045 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - I found that very unfitting in relation to the music. While this part here is overall pretty hard with lots of 1/4, 1/8 and jumps, this pattern is pretty simple, however, the music indicates rising tension with that rising "melody", I'd replace this pattern with single 1/4 sliderjumps with rising spacing, like you did just before, that would fit this part much better.
done
Thank you, Koka c:
Nemis
2. The curveness of that slider piece is just same as every usual slider
in my opinion sliders like this need a curve more curved, and I find this http://puu.sh/2Q4By.jpg a bad curve, this is just a suggestion :3
I meant more elaborated sliders :P
Topic Starter
grumd
I keep all the curves the same, doesn't matter if it's a simple curve or a complicated shape.
Nemis

grumd wrote:

I keep all the curves the same, doesn't matter if it's a simple curve or a complicated shape.
Ahah don't worry, I was just trying to make you understand what I mean ;)
Loctav
Fixed everything but:

Kokatsu wrote:

00:36:631 (2,1,2,3,1) - kddkd for some variety? it sounds wrong and plays wrong. I appreciate variety, but this is the wrong place to put it.
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