Talked with Nwolf about lepidopodus difficulty. Muzukashii is indeed hard. But since lepidopodus is out of osu, I will first ask Loctav if it is fine to rename it as Oni/Inner and keep it in this way, due to its old status. After that, gonna ask lepi if it is okay to change the names.
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Topic Starter
Really it's hard for being named as Muzukashii? wow I feel so off right now, The Muzukashii looks fine for me, And the oni don't have the needed for being named as Inner Oni.. That's my opinions, I just wanted to say, It's okay if Muzukashii is indeed ''hard'' But I feel it's so normal in what a Muzukashii is expectedOnosakiHito wrote:
Talked with Nwolf about lepidopodus difficulty. Muzukashii is indeed hard. But since lepidopodus is out of osu, I will first ask Loctav if it is fine to rename it as Oni/Inner and keep it in this way, due to its old status. After that, gonna ask lepi if it is okay to change the names.
, maybe I need to add a Kantan, just if the TaikoComunnity need it for the ''New players''. Muzukashii is the perfect Diff for the players who are interested in the Taiko mod, Because is easy but not too easy, and hard but not too hard. IMO
The muzukashii is incredibly hard tbh
also inner Onis are just Onis.
also I started a mod but I'll wait and see what Loctav/lepi/Ono will say
also inner Onis are just Onis.
also I started a mod but I'll wait and see what Loctav/lepi/Ono will say
Topic Starter
Loctav/lepi/Ono? We need to make it short, like Lepilocono or Locepiono or OnopilocNwolf wrote:
The muzukashii is incredibly hard tbh
also inner Onis are just Onis.
also I started a mod but I'll wait and see what Loctav/lepi/Ono will say
Also Okay 'w')b If change the names it's ok then it's ok
Topic Starter
Seph wrote:
Deif is such a pain in the ass =w=
o_O
I wish I could just bubble this
Topic Starter
I already talked with Lepidopodus and he is working in a Kantan for this mapset, also, this will take almost 1 month more because Lepidopodus have work to do.Nwolf wrote:
I wish I could just bubble this
I say sorry for this incovenience, but I can't find another taiko mapper for this Mapset.
Please, I need to know the opinion of Loctav and OnosakiHito about this, I consider the Muzukashii is ok for be a Muzukashii, But if this is a problem for the rank, I will change The Oni to a Inner Oni, the Muzukashii to a Oni and the next Kantan to Muzukashii.
We just need wait a little more.
I already waited 3 years, We can wait 1 month more, Thanks in advance
You could ask lolcubes and MMzz for opinion as well. If they see it also as too hard, we will need another Muzukashii. That's what Loctav said. Can't go without.
Thinking about it, I will ask them.
Thinking about it, I will ask them.
hm there's enough of mappers that you could ask actually but if you both can wait one more month, I won't object
I just don't know if I got that right, he wants to make a Kantan-level diff? I would prefer a proper Muzukashii over that
I just don't know if I got that right, he wants to make a Kantan-level diff? I would prefer a proper Muzukashii over that
Topic Starter
I can ask for everyone who I think can contribute in this Thread, But isn't really necessary at all if I already talked with you guys, you're the best.
Also I talked with Lepidopodus and I already sended a new message informing about this advice.
I say a Kantan because, Is you feel the muzukashii too hard for be a Muzukashii I think the kantan would be so hard for be a kantan LOL, not really
I already talked about make another taiko diff more easy than the actually muzukashii but not too easy for avoid problems with the taiko spread.
Also I talked with Lepidopodus and I already sended a new message informing about this advice.
I say a Kantan because, Is you feel the muzukashii too hard for be a Muzukashii I think the kantan would be so hard for be a kantan LOL, not really
I already talked about make another taiko diff more easy than the actually muzukashii but not too easy for avoid problems with the taiko spread.
MBomb
Hmm, I can't find any fruit icon, so I'm gonna mod the ctb, idk if there is one and I'm just stupid but yeah, feel free to ignore this if there's already an icon, it probably won't be very helpful anyway XD
This is a really fun map, I hope it's ranked soon <3
Red Light ~CtB~
00:03:217 (6) - NC here?
00:03:415 - A circle on the 1/1 here sounds nice to me.
00:04:811 (13) - I can't hear any sound here that feels like it should be mapped, remove this maybe?
00:06:217 (6) - NC here.
00:06:399 - Circle on 1/1 here would sound good.
00:07:717 (13) - The strong sound starts here, maybe have 12 hyper into this instead of this hypering to 1?
00:09:217 (6) - NC.
00:10:811 (13) - Remove this please, sound is very weak.
00:12:217 (6) - NC.
00:22:617 - Place a circle on the 1/4 here (add it to the stream of 00:22:717 (4,5) - )
00:30:698 - Place a circle on the 3/4 to match the drums.
00:31:050 - ^
00:35:191 - The beat on the 3/4 is quite strong, I'd recommend adding a circle here.
00:37:155 (7) - NC.
00:38:655 (9) - ^
00:41:189 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here to fit the drum.
00:42:967 (4) - NC.
00:44:186 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here for strong drum beat.
00:44:467 (4) - NC.
00:46:051 - Circle on 3/4 here.
00:47:192 - ^
00:47:552 - ^
00:49:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You could have a 1/4 stream during this section to fit the music well (NC on 00:50:655 (8) - ).
00:52:623 (7) - Move this forward to the 1/2?
00:55:155 (7) - NC.
00:56:655 (3) - ^
00:58:342 (6) - ^
00:59:842 (6) - ^
01:01:155 (4) - ^
01:16:155 (6) - ^
01:17:655 (5) - ^
01:19:155 (5) - ^
01:19:998 (2) - Remove this as there's no strong beat here.
01:20:655 (7) - NC.
01:25:155 (7) - ^
01:26:655 (3) - ^
01:28:155 (7) - ^
01:28:425 - Circle on 3/4 for the drum beat.
01:29:561 - ^
01:30:405 (6) - NC.
01:33:030 (9) - ^
01:46:905 (8) - ^
00:03:415 - A circle on the 1/1 here sounds nice to me.
00:04:811 (13) - I can't hear any sound here that feels like it should be mapped, remove this maybe?
00:06:217 (6) - NC here.
00:06:399 - Circle on 1/1 here would sound good.
00:07:717 (13) - The strong sound starts here, maybe have 12 hyper into this instead of this hypering to 1?
00:09:217 (6) - NC.
00:10:811 (13) - Remove this please, sound is very weak.
00:12:217 (6) - NC.
00:22:617 - Place a circle on the 1/4 here (add it to the stream of 00:22:717 (4,5) - )
00:30:698 - Place a circle on the 3/4 to match the drums.
00:31:050 - ^
00:35:191 - The beat on the 3/4 is quite strong, I'd recommend adding a circle here.
00:37:155 (7) - NC.
00:38:655 (9) - ^
00:41:189 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here to fit the drum.
00:42:967 (4) - NC.
00:44:186 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here for strong drum beat.
00:44:467 (4) - NC.
00:46:051 - Circle on 3/4 here.
00:47:192 - ^
00:47:552 - ^
00:49:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You could have a 1/4 stream during this section to fit the music well (NC on 00:50:655 (8) - ).
00:52:623 (7) - Move this forward to the 1/2?
00:55:155 (7) - NC.
00:56:655 (3) - ^
00:58:342 (6) - ^
00:59:842 (6) - ^
01:01:155 (4) - ^
01:16:155 (6) - ^
01:17:655 (5) - ^
01:19:155 (5) - ^
01:19:998 (2) - Remove this as there's no strong beat here.
01:20:655 (7) - NC.
01:25:155 (7) - ^
01:26:655 (3) - ^
01:28:155 (7) - ^
01:28:425 - Circle on 3/4 for the drum beat.
01:29:561 - ^
01:30:405 (6) - NC.
01:33:030 (9) - ^
01:46:905 (8) - ^
This is a really fun map, I hope it's ranked soon <3
Topic Starter
Thanks but sorry, I'm out of this game :/ I have to focus on real importants things like my University Studies and stuff, family, etc, So this project is officialy off. Thanks for everyone for the support of those 3 long years, but I can play this game anymore, I'm out.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Hmm, I can't find any fruit icon, so I'm gonna mod the ctb, idk if there is one and I'm just stupid but yeah, feel free to ignore this if there's already an icon, it probably won't be very helpful anyway XDRed Light ~CtB~00:03:217 (6) - NC here?
00:03:415 - A circle on the 1/1 here sounds nice to me.
00:04:811 (13) - I can't hear any sound here that feels like it should be mapped, remove this maybe?
00:06:217 (6) - NC here.
00:06:399 - Circle on 1/1 here would sound good.
00:07:717 (13) - The strong sound starts here, maybe have 12 hyper into this instead of this hypering to 1?
00:09:217 (6) - NC.
00:10:811 (13) - Remove this please, sound is very weak.
00:12:217 (6) - NC.
00:22:617 - Place a circle on the 1/4 here (add it to the stream of 00:22:717 (4,5) - )
00:30:698 - Place a circle on the 3/4 to match the drums.
00:31:050 - ^
00:35:191 - The beat on the 3/4 is quite strong, I'd recommend adding a circle here.
00:37:155 (7) - NC.
00:38:655 (9) - ^
00:41:189 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here to fit the drum.
00:42:967 (4) - NC.
00:44:186 - Place a circle on the 3/4 here for strong drum beat.
00:44:467 (4) - NC.
00:46:051 - Circle on 3/4 here.
00:47:192 - ^
00:47:552 - ^
00:49:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - You could have a 1/4 stream during this section to fit the music well (NC on 00:50:655 (8) - ).
00:52:623 (7) - Move this forward to the 1/2?
00:55:155 (7) - NC.
00:56:655 (3) - ^
00:58:342 (6) - ^
00:59:842 (6) - ^
01:01:155 (4) - ^
01:16:155 (6) - ^
01:17:655 (5) - ^
01:19:155 (5) - ^
01:19:998 (2) - Remove this as there's no strong beat here.
01:20:655 (7) - NC.
01:25:155 (7) - ^
01:26:655 (3) - ^
01:28:155 (7) - ^
01:28:425 - Circle on 3/4 for the drum beat.
01:29:561 - ^
01:30:405 (6) - NC.
01:33:030 (9) - ^
01:46:905 (8) - ^
This is a really fun map, I hope it's ranked soon <3
Edit: Please the next QAT or BAT or BN or whatever, GMT maybe.. Close this Thread. Thanks
Don't ever do this again!! I hate pranks ;w;
Topic Starter
Sorry >__< But I really can't enjoy the April's Fools day without a joke ;w; <3 Love youDeif wrote:
Locking thread on mapper's request
Don't ever do this again!! I hate pranks ;w;
loolDaxMasterix wrote:
Sorry >__< But I really can't enjoy the April's Fools day without a joke ;w; <3 Love youDeif wrote:
Locking thread on mapper's request
Don't ever do this again!! I hate pranks ;w;
Deif wrote:
Don't ever do this again!! I hate pranks ;w;
si necesitan otro muzukashii lo hago, no problem XD .. además veo que son taiko de elite (digase lepidopodus) así que me joderé en hacer algo productivo (?)
Topic Starter
don't worry, lepis is working on o3oxtrem3x wrote:
si necesitan otro muzukashii lo hago, no problem XD .. además veo que son taiko de elite (digase lepidopodus) así que me joderé en hacer algo productivo (?)
Also, Updated and post for avoid graveyard
Just to mention that I'm still alert, lol. Need to discuss about the issue...
EDIT:
Oh, difficulty issue, please tell me why this muzukashii is too hard, people? I know this is relatively hard, but I don't think we need to make two onis... Maybe I can add another difficulty, maybe.
EDIT:
Oh, difficulty issue, please tell me why this muzukashii is too hard, people? I know this is relatively hard, but I don't think we need to make two onis... Maybe I can add another difficulty, maybe.
Hi lepi. Another long time not see.
It's about the density and the sequence of patterns. Muzu is relatively hard as you said(probably already Oni level?) because, even though patterns like 1/4 are monotonically, their sequence is kinda demanding with all these duplets and triplets bounded together with 1/2 (e.g. 00:46:905 - ). In that respect, the density is another factor which makes the Muzukashii harder than an usual one. Lower players have baerly time to rest for a moment due to the continuous mapping in the difficulty, which is why deleting some notes would be a possible suggestion by some of us.
That's the reason. Uuh... kinda stricter compared to the past, or? Well, nowadays we are really caution with the difficulty of a map(and spreads; another topic) since we want to prevent having in the future monster Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii difficulties(as osu kinda provides already). So one argument we often give, under consideration of the song of course, is: If you guys want hard difficulties, you can make an additional Oni instead of making the lower diffs harder.
In your case, you could either have some breaks in the Muzu or just rename Muzu to Oni and make a new Muzu if it doesn't bother you too much. Don't know if you can agree with that. A lot of stuff happened which lead to this.
It's about the density and the sequence of patterns. Muzu is relatively hard as you said(probably already Oni level?) because, even though patterns like 1/4 are monotonically, their sequence is kinda demanding with all these duplets and triplets bounded together with 1/2 (e.g. 00:46:905 - ). In that respect, the density is another factor which makes the Muzukashii harder than an usual one. Lower players have baerly time to rest for a moment due to the continuous mapping in the difficulty, which is why deleting some notes would be a possible suggestion by some of us.
That's the reason. Uuh... kinda stricter compared to the past, or? Well, nowadays we are really caution with the difficulty of a map(and spreads; another topic) since we want to prevent having in the future monster Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii difficulties(as osu kinda provides already). So one argument we often give, under consideration of the song of course, is: If you guys want hard difficulties, you can make an additional Oni instead of making the lower diffs harder.
In your case, you could either have some breaks in the Muzu or just rename Muzu to Oni and make a new Muzu if it doesn't bother you too much. Don't know if you can agree with that. A lot of stuff happened which lead to this.
Understood. Oni -> Inner Oni, Muz -> Oni and new muz, can this be a solution?
Absolutely.
Topic Starter
Wonderfully Absolutely.
EDIT: Added the changes and the new diff! Please Taiko Community, take a look! Remember to thanks to lepidopodus <3
EDIT: Added the changes and the new diff! Please Taiko Community, take a look! Remember to thanks to lepidopodus <3
Mod request via ... Inshe dax me obligó .-.
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General:
Don: d
Kat: k
Big don: D
Big kat: K
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Muzukashii:
00:14:092 - delete (a mini-break is good in this big emphasis imo)
00:29:280 - Change to k (broken sequence?)
00:32:280 - ^
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Oni:
01:16:155 - Change to k (in this part is high sound with sequence) (?)
01:21:780 - Change to k (so much monotone rhythm)
01:22:530 - ^
01:28:155 - Change to k (same reason in 01:16:155- )
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Inner:
00:37:998 - Change to k (high sound)
00:42:405 - Change to k (is a rare combination about high sound and bass)
00:48:311 - ctrl+g (here broken sequence) (?)
01:04:623 - add note (about emphasis in tetrical sound)
01:07:623 - ^
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I could not expect less from Lepidon! ... Great -w-
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General:
Don: d
Kat: k
Big don: D
Big kat: K
________________________________________________________________________
Muzukashii:
00:14:092 - delete (a mini-break is good in this big emphasis imo)
00:29:280 - Change to k (broken sequence?)
00:32:280 - ^
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Oni:
01:16:155 - Change to k (in this part is high sound with sequence) (?)
01:21:780 - Change to k (so much monotone rhythm)
01:22:530 - ^
01:28:155 - Change to k (same reason in 01:16:155- )
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Inner:
00:37:998 - Change to k (high sound)
00:42:405 - Change to k (is a rare combination about high sound and bass)
00:48:311 - ctrl+g (here broken sequence) (?)
01:04:623 - add note (about emphasis in tetrical sound)
01:07:623 - ^
________________________________________________________________________
I could not expect less from Lepidon! ... Great -w-
@^:
[Muz]
00:14:092 - fixed.
00:29:280 - that's very intentional d due to difficulty spread
00:32:280 - ^
[Oni]
01:16:155 & 01:28:155 - Well, peach of main sound isn't so high, I guess?
01:21:780 & 01:22:530 - I'd rather prefer dk than kd. Anyway, fixed.
[Inner Oni]
00:37:998 - Fixed.
00:42:405 - Fixed.
00:48:311 - Well that's currently nice coupling with 00:42:405.
01:04:623 & 01:07:623 - modifying note density is good way to emphasize certain part, so I'm not gonna change this.
Thanks for modding, many nice catches!
Muz: http://puu.sh/hWlr7/ca7b2f1ee7.osu
Oni: http://puu.sh/hWlrK/bdc14d135f.osu
Inner Oni: http://puu.sh/hWlsk/fb7c98d778.osu
[Muz]
00:14:092 - fixed.
00:29:280 - that's very intentional d due to difficulty spread
00:32:280 - ^
[Oni]
01:16:155 & 01:28:155 - Well, peach of main sound isn't so high, I guess?
01:21:780 & 01:22:530 - I'd rather prefer dk than kd. Anyway, fixed.
[Inner Oni]
00:37:998 - Fixed.
00:42:405 - Fixed.
00:48:311 - Well that's currently nice coupling with 00:42:405.
01:04:623 & 01:07:623 - modifying note density is good way to emphasize certain part, so I'm not gonna change this.
Thanks for modding, many nice catches!
Muz: http://puu.sh/hWlr7/ca7b2f1ee7.osu
Oni: http://puu.sh/hWlrK/bdc14d135f.osu
Inner Oni: http://puu.sh/hWlsk/fb7c98d778.osu
Topic Starter
Updated mah'ladys 
Working for more
Working for morecan you maybe reduce the OD on Inner Oni to 6.5 or 6 so people can pick the map the map should it appear in TWC in HR/DT bracket *hinthint*
Hello, concerning Shiirn's Extra and other diffs with this stream I'll mention below there may be an issue.
01:08:655 - There are some objects that are snapped wrongly if only you are supposed to follow the piano.
There are both 1/4 (in red) and 1/3 (in orange), just see :
But if you're supposed to follow the beats, it should be fine.
No kd please
01:08:655 - There are some objects that are snapped wrongly if only you are supposed to follow the piano.
There are both 1/4 (in red) and 1/3 (in orange), just see :
But if you're supposed to follow the beats, it should be fine.
No kd please
Topic Starter
Sended a MP to lepidon.Nwolf wrote:
can you maybe reduce the OD on Inner Oni to 6.5 or 6 so people can pick the map the map should it appear in TWC in HR/DT bracket *hinthint*
Knowed. I will talk with S about it and what he says, thanks for it hentai CBCherry Blossom wrote:
Hello, concerning Shiirn's Extra and other diffs with this stream I'll mention below there may be an issue.
01:08:655 - There are some objects that are snapped wrongly if only you are supposed to follow the piano.
There are both 1/4 (in red) and 1/3 (in orange), just see :
But if you're supposed to follow the beats, it should be fine.
No kd please
uuuh it's "hentai & baka cb" ;w;DaxMasterix wrote:
thanks for it hentai CB
Topic Starter
Cherry Blossom wrote:
Hello, concerning Shiirn's Extra and other diffs with this stream I'll mention below there may be an issue.
01:08:655 - There are some objects that are snapped wrongly if only you are supposed to follow the piano.
There are both 1/4 (in red) and 1/3 (in orange), just see :
But if you're supposed to follow the beats, it should be fine.
:LShiirn wrote:
The actual beats in that particular part are overwhelmed by the other sounds to the point where the piano's change from 1/4 to 1/3 for a single stanza would be extremely confusing and play like ass, so I elected to just leave it as a 1/4 stream all the way through. It plays better and still fits the music. Unlike 01:33:030 (1,2,3,4) - , which changes from 4/4 to 4/3 with the loudest beat following it, that particular part is almost inaudible. Dax can change if if he chooses to, but my personal feeling is that it's not worth the loss of playability to strictly follow a nearly inaudible beat (Mapping at 25% or 50% is nice and all, but you lose touch with the "feel" of the song)
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Updated to 6.5!Nwolf wrote:
can you maybe reduce the OD on Inner Oni to 6.5 or 6 so people can pick the map the map should it appear in TWC in HR/DT bracket *hinthint*
Topic Starter
SOMEBODY RANKMOD THIS
Hope this map gets ranked soon >w<
pickles
I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry
[Muzukashii]
01:19:717 (19) - I don't think this fits too much. Might wanna remove it because it also creates the longest 1/2 here and it feels weird having it at this spot.
01:45:217 - You could then add a kat here to keep 400 notes. If you find better spot, add a note there.
[Oni]
00:27:405 - 00:39:405 - This part needs a little bit more notes. It's about as hard as the Muzukashii, partially the density is even lower and makes it easier, rhythm-wise too. Yes this kills the 500 notes... maybe aim for 555? : P Cause there's another spot!
01:24:873 - add don here 01:25:623 - add kat here (bigger difference to Muzukashii)
01:26:467 - Maybe here too idk if it fits to you
01:44:842 - There are notes in Muzukashii and Inner Oni but not here.
Love the structure in all diffs so there's not really much to say about colors
[Muzukashii]
01:19:717 (19) - I don't think this fits too much. Might wanna remove it because it also creates the longest 1/2 here and it feels weird having it at this spot.
01:45:217 - You could then add a kat here to keep 400 notes. If you find better spot, add a note there.
[Oni]
00:27:405 - 00:39:405 - This part needs a little bit more notes. It's about as hard as the Muzukashii, partially the density is even lower and makes it easier, rhythm-wise too. Yes this kills the 500 notes... maybe aim for 555? : P Cause there's another spot!
01:24:873 - add don here 01:25:623 - add kat here (bigger difference to Muzukashii)
01:26:467 - Maybe here too idk if it fits to you
01:44:842 - There are notes in Muzukashii and Inner Oni but not here.
Love the structure in all diffs so there's not really much to say about colors
Topic Starter
hahaNwolf wrote:
I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry I'm so sorry
Don't worry and thanks for modding this! We need to wait a few for lepidon but he already know about the mod, so please be patient!, Also, I'm waiting for MagicBomb mod on the CtB Diff, already added a lot of changes in his last mod but don't have the fix data, will update soon! Edit: Added some changes right of the last MB's mod.
@NWolf
[Muzukashii]
01:19:717 (19) - I just want to make a difference between 01:15:405 ~ 01:18:030 and 01:18:405 ~ 01:21:030. If I follow your advice the first measure would be exactly same with the third measure, and that isn't what I intended to.
01:45:217 - 01:45:405 (1) is big note so in order to emphasize it I can make here empty, I guess.
[Oni]
00:27:405 - 00:39:405 - So I added more notes in there and slight pattern change for near here.
01:24:873 & 01:25:623 - 01:23:655 (16,17,18,19,20,21) are already 'ooo ooo' so that could make too many repeats.
01:26:467 - Ok, this diff is now oni(once muz) so whatever
01:44:842 - Busted, fixed.
This breaks 500 combo in Oni and it's now 515, but I think this is also a beautiful number lol
Oni: http://puu.sh/jiM71/87291d536e.osu
[Muzukashii]
01:19:717 (19) - I just want to make a difference between 01:15:405 ~ 01:18:030 and 01:18:405 ~ 01:21:030. If I follow your advice the first measure would be exactly same with the third measure, and that isn't what I intended to.
01:45:217 - 01:45:405 (1) is big note so in order to emphasize it I can make here empty, I guess.
[Oni]
00:27:405 - 00:39:405 - So I added more notes in there and slight pattern change for near here.
01:24:873 & 01:25:623 - 01:23:655 (16,17,18,19,20,21) are already 'ooo ooo' so that could make too many repeats.
01:26:467 - Ok, this diff is now oni(once muz) so whatever
01:44:842 - Busted, fixed.
This breaks 500 combo in Oni and it's now 515, but I think this is also a beautiful number lol
Oni: http://puu.sh/jiM71/87291d536e.osu
Topic Starter
Okay, I'm trying to update this but this osu! seems to be really bugged, so.. It's freezeng on ''creating package'' really wth
Anyways, Thanks so much lepidon! Will PM Nwolf soon!
Anyways, Thanks so much lepidon! Will PM Nwolf soon!