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KeksiikChannel
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KeksiikChannel
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 15 August 2014 at 13:48:19

Artist: AVTechNO!
Title: FREE
Source: AVTechNO!
Tags: Hatsune Miku Megurine Luka Vocaloid techno japanese
BPM: 126
Filesize: 8392kb
Play Time: 03:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.68 stars, 180 notes)
  2. Hard (3.13 stars, 424 notes)
  3. Insane (3.6 stars, 601 notes)
Download: AVTechNO! - FREE
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Some changes have been made:
-Resized comboburst images to smaller
-Changes on Easy difficulty: More objects added
-Hard difficulty still in progress

Progress:
Easy: Done
Hard: In progress
Insane: In progress

Any tips and feedback aprreciated.
Last edited by KeksiikChannel , edited 120 times in total.
69653863
1,818 posts
Joined January 2012
69653863
*moved from old thread

Hi there~

After a very long period of waiting for AVTechNO!'s songs, i've finally found another one, this one. And this is a nice one :)

Here I'm only giving you general mods and suggestions for your map

Timing Suggestions

  1. BPM: 126.00
  2. Offset: 7800
  3. Time Signature: 4/4
  4. Beat Snap Divisor: 1/4

General

  1. Remove AVTechNO! from Artist, it should be on Source. Use Hatsune Miku & Megurine Luka only.
  2. Tags are only used to list everything that cannot belong to Source, Artist, Title, etc. in this case, I suggest vocaloid techno as tags
  3. If you decide to change BPM, Offset, or Beat Snap divisor, make sure you resnap all the notes using Resnap All notes function from Timing menu
  4. Do not forget to add preview point. For this song, try 01:23:990
If you need more advices contact me via PM (in-game PM)

oh yeah, actually I'm interested in making guest diff for this. ;) But I think I'll wait some more... and my laptop's still broken down till now ;_;
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KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay.Im still working on insane diff but sure. Be my guest :)
birra
359 posts
Joined May 2011
birra
lol martin =w=
/me nomnom your maps
o3o
birra
359 posts
Joined May 2011
birra
Mod via Facebook chat lolol

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Owie. My ears.Im starting to hate that song nowQAQ

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
/me nomnom your ear

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Waah > . <

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
=3=

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Btw can you help me? ;w;
Try out my beatmap
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/54786

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
oh ok
wait

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
k

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
20s, sorry. it got lag orz

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Its okay. Maybe late. Make sure you try the insane difficulty.Its still not good but still playable ouo

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
trying to open osu =w=

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okkay ouo
Hitsounds still are not fitting well. I used Taiko skin for hitsounds o.o

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
....why taiko skin..
i hate taiko skin ;w;

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Dun worry.I didnt set it as a beatmap skin. Hitsounds are normal but I used Taiko skin to check fitting hitsounds ouo

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
i hate both of its hitsounds and designs orz
i mean taiko skin
not your map www
well, 'kay

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
I see owo

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
wait it keeps asking me for updates yet it cant be updated

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Maybe beccause I uploaded my beatmap twice and I cant delete the old one TwT

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
stupid orz
im gonna give a try then

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Ok.Now I have to wait 3weeks until the old one goes to the graveyard orz

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
lol
i love that kind of map oh shit
i hope it can be ranked, seriously
;w;

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Critics? ;w;

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
and about the hitsounds, i didn't hear any of taiko skin's hitsounds. what a good thing for me
watch the hitsounds more clearly

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okkay.How was the difficulty?

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
some of them were placed in the right place. but i think almost 60% of them were NOT right =w=

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
I see. Well,how about jumps and streamings?

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
the streams are all good. it's just kinda slow cz it follows the beat (i cant do slow streams imo)
and the jumps, i dont really like jumps unless if they can make my cursor sings along. and well, the jumps in that diff are good enough.

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okay. How about the background and comboburst?Im thinking about changing background per difficulty

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
what is the size of the bg?

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
767x767

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
try to find a 800 - 1024 size bg.
800-600 or 1024-7blablaiforgetthisone

about an hour ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Well,I couldnt find the bigger size.I think I should use editor o.o

about an hour ago - Hanazumi Sakura
that's the size rule that you must put in your map.
it must be 800size or 1024size

59 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okay.Im gonna poen Photoscape now.Maybe I should edit combobursts as well

58 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
and martin
you don't need to name the hard diff as 'hard +'
it's 4,5 stars and i don't see it as a " harder diff than hard diff but easier than insane diff".

57 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okay
Omg my beatmap needs a mod ;w;

55 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
lol im modding your map here baka
and then can you add some faster streams in insane diff?

54 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okay.Ill do it later

54 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
just remove some of the sliderstreamswhateveritcalled with the faster circlesterams

53 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
At which time?

49 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
00:37:799 <-- replace that with a short-fast stream
um brb dinner

47 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Ok me too. Lunchtime

30 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
'kay back (while you're eating)
01:50:538 - remove whistel and finnish
01:50:657 - add finnish
01:54:466 - add whistle
02:02:085 - add clap
02:03:099 - NC and add clap
* 02:03:990
02:04:823 - remove whistle
move the NC at 02:05:419 to 02:05:895
replace the circles in 02:16:609 (1, 2, 3) into fast stream.

9 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Ok. IM back. Ill do it ouo

6 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
try to make some new hitsounds for the rest after that and just call me back if it's finished already

6 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okkay

4 minutes ago - Hanazumi Sakura
and please full submit it.
not standart submit xD

4 minutes ago - MarTin Neko Kun
Okay XD
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Sankyu.Can you also check rest difficulties pls? XDDD
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,526 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat
Randomly went to see your map heh.
Easy:
02:52:099 - Not sure if a new combo is needed
Hard:
00:07:813 (2) - Circle 2 and 3 are kinda far from each other
00:10:432 (1) - Because they are all equally distanced apart from each other, it's harder to recgonise that the time gap between circle 4 and 5 is actually longer than the previous few
00:21:147 (7) - Too close to the rest?
02:05:432 (1) - Up to this point I'm getting the feeling you are trying to make it looks nice and symmetrical and stuff, but if the time gaps between the hits are different but the spacing are the same, it is very confusing. Examples are like 02:10:670 (3) and 02:12:575 (6) .
It's just my opinion, but I feel the spacing is not defined and it makes it harder to know when to hit, it occurs throughout the song.
Insane:
00:30:551 (6) - This beat sounds off, maybe let it reverse 2 more times until 00:31:147 and this slider could be a new combo.
00:34:004 (1) - New combo not needed?
00:35:670 (1) - Could be part of the previous combo
00:36:147 (2) - New combo
02:40:670 - 02:47:575 - Could have beats in this portion of the song, in my opinion
03:18:289 (2) and 03:19:242 (3) - seems off, could use different beats instead, maybe don't use sliders

Don't have much time, but this was what I noticed. I'm not really the expert in maps, but maybe you could consider what these opinions. ^^ Hope I helped.
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay,thanks for help!Im not a pro but Ill do my best! :)
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,526 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat
Let me know if you made new changes, I'll try it again :D
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay.Ive added,changed some few new objects on insane+background and combo colors.
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,526 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat
sacchan has mentioned before, maybe you should try and find a bigger background picture, the one you have right now is quite pixelated
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Ok.I edited the background.Also this background is set for all difficulties.
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,526 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat
Been very busy with studies recently :|

Easy:
01:48:766 (5) - Whistle sounds weird
Hard:
01:41:147 (7) - Start the new combo here instead of the next one
02:24:718 (1) - Don't think you need a new combo here
02:39:718 (8) - You could start a new combo here, like the one before the break before
Insane:
00:27:972 (7) - This sounds off, maybe you could change it if possible.
00:30:591 (6) - My mistake on this one, I think it would be better if it started at 00:30:512 and let it repeat 4 times until 00:30:988
Never really liked whistle haha, it sounded weird in the 2nd kiai time portion~
It's getting nicer :) But I don't have time to really look at it....
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Ok,gotcha! :3
Tata_old_1
33 posts
Joined February 2012
Tata_old_1
First of all clarify that use google translator so my writing may not be the best

general: you should use the snap distance

Easy
01:03:051: that circle (1) only has to have the finish and clap sounds
01:03:528: Circles (2,3,4,5,6) should have only clap sound
01:17:813: that circle clap sound only
01:20:194: that circle (8) with sound and whistle finish
01:44:956: finish sound circle
01:46:861: ^ ^ ^

Hard
00:36:385: whistle rather than place him into the circle clap sound (2)
03:22:813: Putting sound finish the circle (10)
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okkay!Thanks!
Aeonian Sonder
974 posts
Joined May 2012
Aeonian Sonder
This song sounds good.

OVERALL: Resnap all of the timing points

[Hard]
00:07:813 until 00:11:623 - Fix the sequence, it's confusing, or try replacing the circles with sliders. Try using distance snap
03:18:051 If the next 10 circles for part of a hexagon, fix the circles that location are the top of the hexagon, and move them to match the bottom circles.
03:31:147 (4,5) - Don't make circles go UNDER a slider

[Insane]
00:36:623 (2) - Fix the location
01:06:386 (4) - Fix the straighness of the slider
02:27:337 (4) - Same as above
02:30:194 (4) - Same as above

You're really CREATIVE, and that's a key thing to have when beatmapping!
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay.Thanks!
Aeonian Sonder
974 posts
Joined May 2012
Aeonian Sonder
OVERALL: GOOD, but remember WHENEVER you change the song's BPM, or somthing like that, ALWAYS resnap the green bars, and the preview point.

[Insane]
01:23:981 - Move this Kiai time to 01:24:004
01:25:908 (6) - Don't make circles over lap the ends of sliders if they come before the slider, it's always confusing to the player
01:32:099 (3) - Same as above
01:33:766 (1) - Same as above
01:54:470 - Move Kiai to 01:54:480
03:25:898 - Move Kiai to 03:25:908
03:27:575 (6) - Like I said before, don't make circles over lap the ends of sliders
03:35:432 (1) - Same as above
04:14:450 - Move to 04:14:480

[Hard]
00:10:432 - Confusing sequence
00:19:718 (2,3,4,5,6) - Make this a bar
00:54:004 (2) - Fix straightness of slider
01:10:194 (2) - Same as above
01:13:051 (1) - Same as above
01:40:908 (6) - Don't overlap....
04:13:051 - The next two sliders are too far apart
Nocturnal_old
26 posts
Joined September 2012
Nocturnal_old
Yeah...just what the world need. More Luke x Miku song....
BUt as long as I don't see a music video of song of this sort. I'll be fine~

Insane MOD:
01:26:956 (2) - Why is there a finish sound effect on this one...?
01:33:766 (1) - Don't overlap sliders with cirles
03:31:623 (2) - Same as first one
03:32:734 (7) - That just from combo 7 to 8 is a LITTLE to large
03:40:908 (5) - Same as first one

You should try using these sound effects (.RAR)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mjpb5n71t4e0z8p

How to changed to custom sounds effects:
-Put sound effects in song file
-Enter editor, enter song
-Go to the Timing tab ----> Timing setup panel
-Go to the beginning of the song and don't play (because I tell you so :P )
-Highlight all red and blue timing marks (At the beginning of a song, first timing mark should already be highlighted, now press the shift, and click on the last highlight)
-Go to audio section
-Click on custom 1
-Done~
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay,Ill do it. It may take a while to change all hitsounds on insane diff.
Aeonian Sonder
974 posts
Joined May 2012
Aeonian Sonder
I just realised something...WHY 1/6? Should it be 1/4?

and second, when are you going to insert the custom sounds that Dviyk gave 'ya?
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay,thanks.I havent noticed neither and about the hitsound pack Im using it but its gonna take some time to adjust hitsounds onto the objects.
Aeonian Sonder
974 posts
Joined May 2012
Aeonian Sonder
OVERALL: DID you remember to snap ALL the green points in ALL difficulties?
Did you put in the sound files IN the folder?

[Insane]
00:54:480 (5) - Sill overlapping circles, move
03:11:861 (6) - Circle 6 isn't where Circle 2 is, if you're try for a triangle formation

[Hard]
00:22:337 (4) - Raise by one block, if you're going for a hexagon
00:22:813 (6) - Same as above
01:05:908 (2) - Fix straightness
01:10:194 (2) - Same as above
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Im on it and hitsounds are already in the folder.
neonat
Beatmap Nominator
3,526 posts
Joined April 2012
neonat
Hi ^^ long time no see, how is the map getting along?
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Hi,its been a while. I have improved beatmap quite well.Still I have to manage with placing hitsounds on objects because it sounds strange. :)
happy623
1,436 posts
Joined April 2010
happy623
Just passing-by 8-)

The Artist Name should be AVTechNO (since the rule changed?
remove FREE, AVTechNO in the tags since they have been appeared in song title and artist title XD
remove the osb file if you dont do any storyboarding
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Okay,thanks.
Takuneru
97 posts
Joined November 2011
Takuneru
Hey !
This is pretty old, but I really liked your map, and it would be cool to see more AVTechNO! ranked.
I'm a real beginner at modding but I'll try to suggest some things to make it better, maybe it'll help you if you try to pick up the beatmap again !
Those are mostly suggestions :3
[General]
Remove AVtechNO! from the source
And it should be "AvtechNO!" with the exclamation mark on the artist.


[Insane]
Pretty great though sometimes I didn't understand what you did there.
00:16:385 (6) - Maybe add a finish at the end of the slider ?
00:20:670 (3) - a clap at the end of the slider ?
00:30:512 (6) - I dunno but... it seems weird to me? You could maybe add a clap at the beginning too, it seems the rhythm here is a bit "blank"
00:34:480 (1) - you may replace it by a stream given the number of slider-repeat
00:37:337 - You may want to add a note here like this : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1717748
01:31:147 (8) - I would have rather done this : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1717779 because of the vocals, and to add more diversity.
01:50:908 (1) - I think the spinner starts too early; you could add more notes before starting it. and starting it at 01:52:337 - for example.
01:54:242 (1) - The whistle at the start seems too much, no hitsound seems better.
02:49:004 - add a note here, near 02:49:242 (2) -
02:50:908 - ^ same. But a slider can do as much if you want
03:44:242 (9) - remove the finish and put it at 03:44:718 (10) - ?
04:13:051 (1) - add a clap here maybe : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1717824
That's all, I really liked your insane !

I did a vastly longer mod for hard and did more for insane but my page reloaded and I lost it... If anything I could help you in-game.
I hope you will revive this project :3
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Thanks for your feedback! As you mentioned,this beatmap is very old.I might consider reviving and reworking my beatmap.
Takuneru
97 posts
Joined November 2011
Takuneru

MarTinNN wrote:

Thanks for your feedback! As you mentioned,this beatmap is very old.I might consider reviving and reworking my beatmap.
I would be happy if you did so !
I love AVTechNO! and I am working on CTB mapsets. I was thinking of doing FREE, and that's how I found your beatmap by checking if it was already mapped.
If I can help you in any way feel free to ask me :D
I'll come back to mod more later on as well if you're reviving the beatmap.
KeksiikChannel
29 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
KeksiikChannel
Any help is appreciated,thanks. Ill pm you for a feedback before revival soon.
CrazyrabbitKGE
89 posts
Joined June 2014
CrazyrabbitKGE
[General]
Comboburst looks a bit too big to me.

[Insane]
00:13:289 (1,2,3,4,5) - could be neater. I mean, their positioning looks kinda ugly.
00:27:932 (7) - eh, doesn't sound really right.
00:32:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - I don't see the reason why a stream should appear at this point. It doesn't seem to be fitting the music.
00:34:480 (1) - try following the melody more rather than using that. It makes the map way too easy imo.
03:21:623 (5) - move it to the right a little.
the cursor will be moving only ←↑→↓ in this map. you know what I mean, right? You should use curves way more often.

[Hard]
I'm getting the feeling that many parts are actually harder than insane diff... eh, idk.
02:05:432 (1,2,3) - the circles are placed 2 times further away because of nothing?

[Easy]
not following the music (vocal and instrumental and whatever) at all.

That's all from me!
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