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Do not qualify mapsets whose song already has a Qualified mapset, unless no game modes of both sets overlap - this includes remixed versions. For example an osu!taiko and osu! mapset of the same song can exist in the Qualified section, whilst an osu!taiko and osu!/osu!taiko hybrid set cannot. This ensures variety among Ranked beatmaps within their respective game modes.

This has been brought up multiple times before, but with the NAT/BNG restructure on the horizon, and particularly the introduction of the ability of BNs to disqualify mapsets for reasons they feel fit, I feel like this should be brought up again.

This rule should be removed for the following reasons:

  1. Removing this rule eliminates any conflict-of-interest problems potentially caused by multiple BNs attempting to rank sets of the same song simultaneously, ensuring all disqualifications are done in good faith rather than because of speedrank wars (see: ADAMAS, RESISTER, Kawaki wo Ameku, and these are only recent examples).

  2. Further to point 1, removing this rule reduces the need to rush in the case of a speedrank race, potentially increasing the quality of said maps, because delaying the map one day to rework a pattern or add another GD no longer runs the risk of delaying the ranking of the map by over a week.

  3. As mapping has grown, there is no longer any need to "buffer content" with the reasonably large quantity of maps getting ranked weekly. This rule may have helped smooth out the flow of content back when it was introduced, but that is no longer necessary because many more maps are ranked now, ensuring that there will be no content droughts.
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it should atleast be changed to allow tv size and full size at the same time imo
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tv size and full size is basically the same. just length that is different. i dont like that idea.

but i do want to see atleast remixes are allowed in this case~
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I agree with this
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i agree so, i'd add limit to qualify the same songs not just removing it cuz i think in future one guy would spam-qualify 130491 maps lol, just in case btw
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do 1 qualified set of a song per person so ^ doesn't happen and there wouldn't be an actual limit as to how many maps of said song are in qualified
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Do not qualify mapsets by mappers who already have a Qualified mapset of the same song, unless no game modes of both sets overlap - this includes remixed versions. For example an osu!taiko and osu! mapset of the same song can exist in the Qualified section, whilst an osu!taiko and osu!/osu!taiko hybrid set cannot.

agree w/ coco btw
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I fully agree with this, if this isn't passing then atleast make tv size/full version/remix of the same song allowed to be multiple time qualified :(
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Djulus wrote:

i agree so, i'd add limit to qualify the same songs not just removing it cuz i think in future one guy would spam-qualify 130491 maps lol, just in case btw
Why would someone rank the same song twice in less than a week? That's super unlikely to happen
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Serizawa Haruki wrote:

Djulus wrote:

i agree so, i'd add limit to qualify the same songs not just removing it cuz i think in future one guy would spam-qualify 130491 maps lol, just in case btw
Why would someone rank the same song twice in less than a week? That's super unlikely to happen
Unlikely but within the realm of possibility. Maybe they really like the song :p
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i hate when for instance two maps of the same tv size set is qualified. people would start comparing which map is better, some would say this some would say that. and its not a good feeling for the mappers to be compared like that xd

but idk, ive never seen this rule applied live so maybe it will be different
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This already happens in instances of multiple ranked sets anyway or a qualified and a pending set which are well-known. Community members being shitty and comparing two sets isn't enough of a downside to cause anime speedrank wars which are not good for the game in my opinion.
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Ascendance wrote:

Serizawa Haruki wrote:

Djulus wrote:

i agree so, i'd add limit to qualify the same songs not just removing it cuz i think in future one guy would spam-qualify 130491 maps lol, just in case btw
Why would someone rank the same song twice in less than a week? That's super unlikely to happen
Unlikely but within the realm of possibility. Maybe they really like the song :p
But how is a mapper ranking the same song twice in that period of time any different from 2 mappers doing that? I think both aren't an issue so I support the removal of the rule
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allowing both the original and remix would be really cool imo if not full size too.
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the speedrank war will happen, with or without this rule anyway. and i only see more downside of having the same content back to back more than one at a time
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speedrank war would be way less impactful because instead of your set getting potentially pushed back a week, they would only be pushed back the amount of time you were late.

again, this isn't so much about the complete elimination of speedrank wars but about making it evident that all DQs by BNs are done in good faith rather than because of ulterior motives (pushing their own or a friend's set), because dqs would no longer impact speedrank wars as significantly
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Personally I'm against it because I do think throwing the same song into qualified all at the same time is oversaturation. Think of the amount of times we could be seeing <Insert new popular anime OP here> in the course of a few days. There's nothing wrong with waiting and apart from speedrank wars (which shouldn't really be a reason to change RC), the rule isn't that faulty.

However, I do think that differentiating full ver / tv size would be fine. They're the same song but provide a different musical experience, so that doesn't create much of a problem in my eyes

Just my 2c

Edit: DQ's done out of malicious intent will be punished for sure by the way, there's nothing to worry about in that regard simply because BNs now have the ability to DQ
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Serizawa Haruki wrote:

Why would someone rank the same song twice in less than a week? That's super unlikely to happen
Ranking full and short version of the same song is something I've wanted to do for a long time but never can since the current rules xD
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full and tv size and remix should be treated separately

having 5 maps of kawaki o ameku/ resister/ insert anime op get ranked on the same day is shitty because it blocks all but 3 other songs from getting ranked that day so if you dont like that then its an overdose of anime for the day
which ofc you guys will conveniently try and ignore and say oh just play other maps but its still stupid even if you dont personally find it as an issue, its like releasing new hearthstone cards but each release is the exact same card with minor variations

also i feel like blocking someone from qualifying the same song twice is pointless cuz the only reason they would do that is to meme this rule or because they wanted to rank the full and tv size which are treated the same
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if there would be a few sets ranked at the ~same time i doubt players will approach all the difficulties equally (especially if there are like 10 diffs in each set) so i think a one-week queue works well here

though remixes shouldnt be treated the same so i could rank my chika meme pls apply this rule asap i support
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