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I agree. A camera the size of our planet is not enough. We need to launch radio telescopes into space and make it the size of the solar system
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B1rd wrote:

They really need to use a high-res camera.
the reason is because event horizon telescope captured it from 55 million light year distance
and the reason why the telescope can see it because its big, as big as our solar system

more zoom = less quality and resolution

with current technology, thats the highest resolution achievable, considering they are imaging a black hole 55 million light-years away, thats incredibly impressive

abraker wrote:

I agree. A camera the size of our planet is not enough. We need to launch radio telescopes into space and make it the size of the solar system
but sure a telescope the size of our solar system could fix the quality problem and zooming more
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we're looking at light that's 55 million years old tbh we gotta go quicker
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imagine our sun dies and scientist tell us right after it dies, but we didnt believe it since it took 8 minutes to travel to earth while scientist are using telescope
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TheLegendaryHD wrote:

imagine our sun dies and scientist tell us right after it dies, but we didnt believe it since it took 8 minutes to travel to earth while scientist are using telescope
This is very yikers to think about
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@TheLegndary That's not how it works at all lmao

sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
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abraker wrote:

@TheLegndary That's not how it works at all lmao

sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
But if the telescope was closer to the sun, i.e in space, it would be able to see it slightly faster than we do at Earth, right?
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abraker wrote:

@TheLegndary That's not how it works at all lmao

sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
you are right, then the only possible answer for this is teleport
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@TeeArctic1
Right, the telescope would see it first. We still wouldn't see it any sooner than 8 min, however, as the signal from the telescope still needs to make up the difference in distance to Earth.

@TheLegendaryHD
Teleportation would still be subject to the speed of light as it's transmitting the signal through space. In fact teleportation is no different than radio, you are just transmitting matter in some form of energy instead of music (with some conversion processes from and to matter involved). Nothing that travels through spacetime can travel faster than the speed of light.
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@TeeArtic1
even when it closer to the sun, it still need for the information to send through radio waves which has the same speed as light to the earth, so its still the same principle as sun light
no information in this universe that moves faster than light

@abraker
well as i can see in a science fiction movie teleportation is to break an object down into its component energy and set a coordination then it would teleport instantly with infinite speed as x distance is covered in 0 seconds, so distance per time would be dividing by zero, and too big to calculate, or "Not a Number" thus why its infinite

and what you stated there is another principle i think if it is simply extremely fast movement being regarded as teleportation then it will have a speed, but i think i agree more with this since the definition of teleportation is "Teleportation is the theoretical transfer of matter or energy from one point to another without traversing the physical space between them." you need to break an object into matter or energy and set the coordination and moves at the speed of light, but the matter one cannot move at the same speed of light since its still has mass, but energy one can

so teleportation is like the same thing as super speed, imagine you can move at the speed of light but since your body has mass that could prevent you to move at the speed of light but the way teleportation theorically works it can be able to move you at the same speed of light because it breaks your body to energy first and send the code to another x

alright so the best solution to know right away when sun dies is to use wormhole
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The only way you can possibly reach some distant point within shorter period of time than it would take light to reach is if you warped spacetime itself. However even when warping, it can't be warped instantaneously, there always needs to be a a period of transition from on state to another. So instantaneous teleportation is prohibitive in our reality.

Also a recent paper came out saying that wormholes are not shortcuts and actually take longer to travel through
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6929749/Wormholes-NOT-shortcut-Study-says-using-portals-longer-routes.html
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'From the outside perspective, travel through the wormhole is equivalent to quantum teleportation using entangled black holes,' Jafferis said.

well that means we can only transit below the speed of light or at the same speed of light

i dont really understand why he said it wouldnt work since the data is so confusing for me, but he said that teleport through wormhole is not bound the space from coordination x to y by infinite distance but rather using infinite distance too but the teleportation need a light too, so it would take the same speed as quantum teleportation

well its still a theory, but if its true then that means
we will never or cannot move between space at infinite distance, because nothing moves faster than light, i dont think so we are that primitive if thats happen then it take million years just to move between galaxies
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It will definitely take manipulation of spacetime to get somewhere faster than light would propagating through spacetime naturally

Tho I have to say, curving spacetime like a blackhole so things would accelerate faster would work either. If you take a light packet, sure its tip going in first would technically travel faster than light, but its entirety is being stretched out as its tail will always be exponentially slower than its tip. That's essentially equivalent to slowing down time around you to go faster.

The only way it could be possible if you could take a bubble of flat spacetime and warp all of the spacetime between it and the destination around it. Much like the Alcubierre drive.
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have you watch this?
this shit is masterpiece
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Did we ever get the image of the other black hole
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No, but we will. We had to put the one at center of milky way on hold due to one of the stars orbiting it deciding to flare up
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