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We may be just days away from seeing a black hole for the first time ever
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Well, he is the mad scientist.
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yes this is the image of the black hole
they captured it using event horizon telescope with 55 million distance away, and the black hole is as large as our solar system it is located in our center galaxy
because of the image is capture not in real distance we can only see the shadow of it which is not very sharp, they didnt take a photo, they collected data about the black holes and are piecing together an illustration as to what the black hole probably looks like, the same way that a photo is just data collected ant stitched together, except here you are limited by distance and current technology.
theyre using interferometry, so they will get a real image once they process their data.
but they said the actual black hole will look like the "Interstellar" movie black hole
also heres an interesting video about what we can get from this event
they captured it using event horizon telescope with 55 million distance away, and the black hole is as large as our solar system it is located in our center galaxy
because of the image is capture not in real distance we can only see the shadow of it which is not very sharp, they didnt take a photo, they collected data about the black holes and are piecing together an illustration as to what the black hole probably looks like, the same way that a photo is just data collected ant stitched together, except here you are limited by distance and current technology.
theyre using interferometry, so they will get a real image once they process their data.
but they said the actual black hole will look like the "Interstellar" movie black hole
also heres an interesting video about what we can get from this event
One neat thing looking at the image tho, you can tell its tilt and direction of rotation
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beautiful explanation by veritasium
i can already see the future
kardashev scale type 1 soon
i can already see the future
kardashev scale type 1 soon
defrost me when science makes my wiafu real
ok see you in 80 million yearsVuelo Eluko wrote:
defrost me when science makes my wiafu real
ColdTooth wrote:
Vuelo Eluko wrote:
defrost me when science makes my wiafu real
ok see you in 80 million years
don't worry, we'll wait for your return.
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abraker when he was just a child
hmm
What scares you the most?
"abraker."
-ColdTooth
"abraker."
-ColdTooth
abraker: *exists*
coldtooth: °•°
coldtooth: °•°
abraker: "abraker"
ColdTooth: abraker: °•°
*exists* What scares you the most?
- abraker
ColdTooth: abraker: °•°
*exists* What scares you the most?
- abraker
what kind of amalgamation of a meme is that?
That pic of blavkey holey look like eye of sauron
And i do some digging looks like i am not the only one thinking that.
I mean, if we go for the multiverse theory, then yes, there exists a universe where LOTR is reality
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abraker wrote:
imagine black hole is going towards our solar system
Where do i sigh up? never thought you csn get so flexible in just days
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hmm
Ashton
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Ashton wrote:
TheLegendaryHD wrote:
hmm
He actually stated in a tweet that he did not write 850k lines of code.
yeah i just noticed it right now
and this
but i still have a suspect that Andrew Chael is still the actual man behind the black holes image because he literally wrote most codes, even though katie was a huge part the collaboration at every step but this man wrote every codes, and that is just my speculation and opinion
they do this to defense katie from the people that attacked her
Why do people measure how great some one is in the amount of things they have done. That's not how it works. There are dependencies and only dependencies. One person is being depended upon to use their specialized skill set to help solve part of the the problem. Amount of work they put into solving the problem should be irrelevant. What is relevant is that they are being counted on to do it and it's not a task not many can do.
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abraker wrote:
Why do people measure how great some one is in the amount of things they have done. That's not how it works. There are dependencies and only dependencies. One person is being depended upon to use their specialized skill set to help solve part of the the problem. Amount of work they put into solving the problem should be irrelevant. What is relevant is that they are being counted on to do it and it's not a task not many can do.
this sudden fame for a young woman in a male-dominated field couldn’t stand. A corrective was quickly found in Andrew Chael, another member of the Event Horizon Telescope team, who, not coincidentally, is white and male
because there are some male who value their gender more than female, and by seeing a female just did an amazing things in science for capturing a picture of a black hole they cant just accept it right away, and they will find every possible hoaxes or hole to make the female embarrassed and spread it
without katie they cant do all of this shit, and yet people cant just accept that it was done by a female
They really need to use a high-res camera.
I agree. A camera the size of our planet is not enough. We need to launch radio telescopes into space and make it the size of the solar system
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B1rd wrote:
They really need to use a high-res camera.
the reason is because event horizon telescope captured it from 55 million light year distance
and the reason why the telescope can see it because its big, as big as our solar system
more zoom = less quality and resolution
with current technology, thats the highest resolution achievable, considering they are imaging a black hole 55 million light-years away, thats incredibly impressive
abraker wrote:
I agree. A camera the size of our planet is not enough. We need to launch radio telescopes into space and make it the size of the solar system
but sure a telescope the size of our solar system could fix the quality problem and zooming more
we're looking at light that's 55 million years old tbh we gotta go quicker
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imagine our sun dies and scientist tell us right after it dies, but we didnt believe it since it took 8 minutes to travel to earth while scientist are using telescope
TheLegendaryHD wrote:
imagine our sun dies and scientist tell us right after it dies, but we didnt believe it since it took 8 minutes to travel to earth while scientist are using telescope
This is very yikers to think about
@TheLegndary That's not how it works at all lmao
sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
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@TheLegndary That's not how it works at all lmao
sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
But if the telescope was closer to the sun, i.e in space, it would be able to see it slightly faster than we do at Earth, right?
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abraker wrote:
@TheLegndary That's not how it works at all lmao
sun dies you wouldn't see it with a telescope until 8 minutes after. Same goes for everyone else. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the sun to earth and there is nothing that travels faster, nothing you can do to make it arrive faster (unless you compressed the distance of spacetime between earth and sun, in which case you will have to figure out how to deal with the gamma radiation since that would decrease the light's wavelengths)
you are right, then the only possible answer for this is teleport
@TeeArctic1
Right, the telescope would see it first. We still wouldn't see it any sooner than 8 min, however, as the signal from the telescope still needs to make up the difference in distance to Earth.
@TheLegendaryHD
Teleportation would still be subject to the speed of light as it's transmitting the signal through space. In fact teleportation is no different than radio, you are just transmitting matter in some form of energy instead of music (with some conversion processes from and to matter involved). Nothing that travels through spacetime can travel faster than the speed of light.
Right, the telescope would see it first. We still wouldn't see it any sooner than 8 min, however, as the signal from the telescope still needs to make up the difference in distance to Earth.
@TheLegendaryHD
Teleportation would still be subject to the speed of light as it's transmitting the signal through space. In fact teleportation is no different than radio, you are just transmitting matter in some form of energy instead of music (with some conversion processes from and to matter involved). Nothing that travels through spacetime can travel faster than the speed of light.
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@TeeArtic1
even when it closer to the sun, it still need for the information to send through radio waves which has the same speed as light to the earth, so its still the same principle as sun light
no information in this universe that moves faster than light
@abraker
well as i can see in a science fiction movie teleportation is to break an object down into its component energy and set a coordination then it would teleport instantly with infinite speed as x distance is covered in 0 seconds, so distance per time would be dividing by zero, and too big to calculate, or "Not a Number" thus why its infinite
and what you stated there is another principle i think if it is simply extremely fast movement being regarded as teleportation then it will have a speed, but i think i agree more with this since the definition of teleportation is "Teleportation is the theoretical transfer of matter or energy from one point to another without traversing the physical space between them." you need to break an object into matter or energy and set the coordination and moves at the speed of light, but the matter one cannot move at the same speed of light since its still has mass, but energy one can
so teleportation is like the same thing as super speed, imagine you can move at the speed of light but since your body has mass that could prevent you to move at the speed of light but the way teleportation theorically works it can be able to move you at the same speed of light because it breaks your body to energy first and send the code to another x
alright so the best solution to know right away when sun dies is to use wormhole
even when it closer to the sun, it still need for the information to send through radio waves which has the same speed as light to the earth, so its still the same principle as sun light
no information in this universe that moves faster than light
@abraker
well as i can see in a science fiction movie teleportation is to break an object down into its component energy and set a coordination then it would teleport instantly with infinite speed as x distance is covered in 0 seconds, so distance per time would be dividing by zero, and too big to calculate, or "Not a Number" thus why its infinite
and what you stated there is another principle i think if it is simply extremely fast movement being regarded as teleportation then it will have a speed, but i think i agree more with this since the definition of teleportation is "Teleportation is the theoretical transfer of matter or energy from one point to another without traversing the physical space between them." you need to break an object into matter or energy and set the coordination and moves at the speed of light, but the matter one cannot move at the same speed of light since its still has mass, but energy one can
so teleportation is like the same thing as super speed, imagine you can move at the speed of light but since your body has mass that could prevent you to move at the speed of light but the way teleportation theorically works it can be able to move you at the same speed of light because it breaks your body to energy first and send the code to another x
alright so the best solution to know right away when sun dies is to use wormhole
The only way you can possibly reach some distant point within shorter period of time than it would take light to reach is if you warped spacetime itself. However even when warping, it can't be warped instantaneously, there always needs to be a a period of transition from on state to another. So instantaneous teleportation is prohibitive in our reality.
Also a recent paper came out saying that wormholes are not shortcuts and actually take longer to travel through
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6929749/Wormholes-NOT-shortcut-Study-says-using-portals-longer-routes.html
Also a recent paper came out saying that wormholes are not shortcuts and actually take longer to travel through
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6929749/Wormholes-NOT-shortcut-Study-says-using-portals-longer-routes.html