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Saiya - Remote Control [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
Garven
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, November 11, 2012 at 1:59:09 PM

Artist: Saiya
Title: Remote Control
Tags: JesusP vocaloid Kagamine Len Rin Tasha Beren lolcubes Pokie inaba-tan
BPM: 165
Filesize: 3782kb
Play Time: 02:13
Difficulties Available:
  1. Beren's Normal (3.52 stars, 155 notes)
  2. Easy (1.88 stars, 126 notes)
  3. inaba's Taiko Oni (4.83 stars, 728 notes)
  4. Insane (5 stars, 480 notes)
  5. lolcubes' Hard (4.8 stars, 303 notes)
  6. Popipon! (5 stars, 382 notes)
  7. Tasha's Taiko Muzukashii (4.82 stars, 508 notes)
Download: Saiya - Remote Control
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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L R L R STOP & DASH & UP & TALK
B B A B S

Normal by Beren
Hard by lolcubes
Popipon! by Pokie

Taiko Muzu by Tasha
Taiko Oni by inaba-tan
inaba-tan
may i make taiko diff ?
yey
Milkshake
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I CAN'T CONTROL MYSELFFFFFFFFFFF
Verlaren
Can I Create guest diff?

Garven edit:

User submitted a difficulty, but it wasn't up to snuff, sorry.
SapphireGhost
inaba-tan
Low
The first kiai on inaba-tan's Taiko Oni should end at 01:22:493, not 01:19:584. Also, there's a bunch of unsnapped things in all of the difficulties. Don't give me kudosu.
Topic Starter
Garven
Crap. Fixed up - I'll let inaba decide on the kiai end - I'd argue that it should end where I ended it in my difficulties. q:
Jenny
Party hard this map wide jumps desu~

SapphireGhost wrote:

SkyDevil
aaa i love this cover XD +Star o3o
-s u i r e n-
Garven 頑張って<3
Shana
I can't wait until this map is ranked! go gogogo :D
inaba-tan
plz up date ~
http://puu.sh/W7Lq
alacat
Garven ~~ :)

SPOILER
01:56 *alacat is listening to (Saiya - Remote Control)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/53857]
01:56 alacat: : yaru !
01:59 Garven: : ganbatte!
01:59 Garven: : :o
01:59 Garven: : sugoi
01:59 alacat: : A ><
01:59 alacat: : jumping suki <3
02:02 Garven: : boku mo <3 stream ha tokidoki suki kedo nagakunai dake w
02:02 Garven: : saigo no spinner ha dou?
02:02 alacat: : stream dekinai ><
02:02 alacat: : hen ja nai to omou ! dakedo cyotto dake nagai kamo ><
02:03 Garven: : mm
02:03 Garven: : demo sono yoko dake
02:03 Garven: : otto ha ..
02:03 Garven: : mm
02:03 alacat: : mmm...
02:04 Garven: : nihongo setumei muzukasii orz
02:04 Garven: : google tasuketeee
02:04 alacat: : www
02:04 Garven: : http://puu.sh/WPIP
02:05 alacat: : Garven ! teian desu!
02:05 alacat: : my suggestion :3
02:06 Garven: : onegaisimasu
02:07 alacat: : hidari kara kikoeru Guiter no oto ga koko de kireteru to omou!
02:07 alacat: : 02:17:038 -
02:07 alacat: : dakara koko de spinner wo owari ni sitara dou kana ?
02:07 alacat: : nihongo takusan gomen ><
02:07 Garven: : mm
02:08 alacat: : ~ 50% de kiite mite ><
02:08 Garven: : demo totemo totemo .. bimyou?
02:08 alacat: : bimyou desuka T.T
02:08 Garven: : 微妙?
02:08 Garven: : eigo de Subtle
02:09 Garven: : 02:16:310 - motto henkou kedo
02:09 Garven: : mada amari sukijanai w
02:10 alacat: : desune ... w
02:10 alacat: : 02:17:765 -
02:10 alacat: : koko nanka dou desuka ?
02:11 Garven: : mm
02:11 Garven: : ok.. to omou...
02:11 Garven: : demooo aaaaa
02:11 Garven: : kimenaaiii
02:11 alacat: : !?
02:11 alacat: : daijoubu !?
02:11 Garven: : delete dake w
02:12 alacat: : spinner delete ?! :3
02:12 Garven: : un
02:12 alacat: : soremo iito omou yo !
02:12 Garven: : original map da w
02:13 Garven: : demo spinner hitotu aru kara mou hitotu tasitai
02:14 alacat: : 00:19:947 - ~ 00:21:038 - ga spinner desu !
02:14 alacat: : 00:21:038 -
02:14 Garven: : 4:00 da ww
02:15 alacat: : ww
02:16 Garven: : sono tokoro ga boku no mapping style ha amari hen to omou
02:16 alacat: : hai >< mou hitotsu arimasu!
02:16 alacat: : 01:39:038 - no vocal no na~ ni awasete spinner wo oitara ? :3
02:17 alacat: : demo
02:17 alacat: : anmari yokunai kamo T.T
02:17 alacat: : watashi ha heta mapper dakara w
02:17 Garven: : ww daijoubu daijoubu
02:18 Garven: : hoka no omou ha ii yo
02:18 Garven: : dakara kansha suru
02:18 alacat: : honto !? yokatta :3
02:18 alacat: : yakuni tatete uresii !
02:20 Garven: : demo saigo no spinner... Hm.. ima kesenai to omou. motto hito no kangaeru hosii
02:20 Garven: : hen no tokoro ga aru?
02:21 alacat: : saigo ha sukosi no spinner ga atta hou ga ii to omoi masita :3
02:21 alacat: : ima mite mimasu !
02:21 alacat: : hen no tokoro → hen "na" tokoro desu!
02:23 Garven: : a, arigatou
02:23 alacat: : 00:19:402 (7,8) - add clap ? 00:17:947 (7,8,9) - ni 3 ko tuiteru kara!
02:24 Garven: : mm kono Phrase ha amari chikai kara nai. 00:20:856 - koko made tuzuku kara add suru
02:25 alacat: : hai!
02:25 alacat: : 00:26:493 (3,4,5) - koko ga 3 ko nanode
02:25 alacat: : 00:29:947 -
02:25 alacat: : koko ha add note sinakutemo ii to omoi masu :3
02:27 alacat: : 00:35:402 (9) - add new combo ?
02:28 alacat: : 00:35:947 (1) - koko kara dato
02:28 alacat: : 00:38:856 (1) - kono pattern to chigau to omoi masu :3
02:28 Garven: : mm new combo ha 2 shiro sen dake
02:29 alacat: : a, ryoukai desu
02:29 alacat: : Garven no map kirei <3
02:30 Garven: : arigatou <3
02:30 Garven: : mm add note ha mada...
02:30 Garven: : imi wakaru kedo
02:31 Garven: : ... baka google
02:31 Garven: : pe-shingu shiteru?
02:31 alacat: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/407713
02:31 alacat: : siteru kamo :3
02:33 Garven: : http://puu.sh/WQ97
02:33 Garven: : kono rizamu tukaitai kana?
02:34 alacat: : kono rizumu demo iikamo :3
02:35 alacat: : 00:24:311 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - koko to onaji ?
02:35 Garven: : un un
02:35 Garven: : demo pata-n ha tabun suteru
02:35 Garven: : hmmm
02:35 alacat: : hmmm ><
02:36 alacat: : atta hou ga sabishiku nai desune ... :3
02:37 Garven: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/407720
02:37 Garven: : eeee
02:37 Garven: : warui
02:37 alacat: : www
02:38 alacat: : 00:29:947 - koko delete note doudesuka ?
02:38 Garven: : 00:24:129 (9) -
02:38 Garven: : mm
02:39 Garven: : kono sytle muzukashii ww
02:39 alacat: : www
02:40 alacat: : hmm ....
02:41 Garven: : ma, ato de naosu
02:41 Garven: : ima sugoku tukareru ww
02:41 Garven: : atama yukkuriii
02:42 Garven: : Mod arigatou!
02:42 alacat: : araaa >< yukkuri shite relax !
02:42 alacat: : ieie >< hetakuso mod desita T.T
02:43 Garven: : post onegaisimasu. kudosu agetai ;)
02:43 alacat: : ryoukai desu !

irc mod~ :3


SIT DOWN PLEASE YEAH! 8-)
Pokie
http://puu.sh/127FV hmmm, one more back up here.
inaba-tan
taiko diff
01:13:766 (1) - please change a note big don → don

EDIT
!!!!
http://puu.sh/12gZk
Topic Starter
Garven
Updated. Thanks you two! Just waiting on phonic then.
Kiiwa
:D
lolcubes
After some testplaying and playing around, +7 offset seems like best here. I double checked some sections in editor and it really feels much better with 1045.

Garv edit: Done
-s u i r e n-
かっこいいと可愛い曲\(*´∀`*)/
lolcubes
Uh, yeah. Still not done.

But promised to give you a sample: http://puu.sh/1p1uX

Now to map that final chorus...


Ok all done: http://puu.sh/1p4bn

Yay!

Hope you like it, because it has shenanigans haha. AR7 might seem a little slow in the final chorus though, so up to you if you want it to be 8. I don't like using AR8 in hards but I think it actually fits better here.
Not sure about the diff though it seems like something is wrong with the preview point, so I'd like you to set it for me manually.
kriers
irc modding lolcubes' diff
21:18 lolcubes: might have to delay the multi session a bit
21:18 lolcubes: garven just came online
21:18 lolcubes: need to discuss some things
21:18 kriers: kk
21:56 lolcubes: so uh, wanna test it with dt? :p
21:56 lolcubes: garven updated the map
21:56 *lolcubes is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/190951 Saiya - Remote Control [lolcubes' Hard]]
21:56 kriers: alright
21:58 lolcubes: this is the weirdest map i ever made
21:58 lolcubes: and i slightly hate it haha
21:58 kriers: lol so slow
21:58 kriers: me
21:58 lolcubes: :D
21:58 lolcubes: oh shit
21:58 lolcubes: this is old version
21:58 kriers: lol
21:59 lolcubes: let me poke garven
21:59 kriers: kk
21:59 lolcubes: the end is different in new
21:59 lolcubes: ok update it :D
22:01 lolcubes: that slider haha
22:01 kriers: lol yeah
22:01 lolcubes: guess ill have to change it
22:01 kriers: goldfish memory
22:02 lolcubes: not a single person got it right so far
22:02 lolcubes: except for me
22:03 kriers: well I think the huge square is too hard :P
22:03 kriers: maybe if ar was 8
22:03 lolcubes: brb reducing it
22:03 lolcubes: yeah i had ar8 as well
22:03 lolcubes: leaving it at 7 for now
22:04 lolcubes: cause popipon diff is 8
22:04 kriers: yup did it on ar8
22:05 lolcubes: im scaling it down from 1.55 to 1.35
22:06 kriers: k
22:06 kriers: the patterns following that square is also a bit weird
22:06 kriers: 01:17:954 (2,4,1,2,3,1) - this whole bit
22:06 kriers: is confusing
22:06 lolcubes: will change
22:09 lolcubes: gonna change that crazy slider too
22:09 kriers: kk
22:09 lolcubes: thanks btw
22:12 lolcubes: ill savelog it and you can post in the thread for kd
22:12 lolcubes: :D
Star Stream
From #modreqs

[General]
  1. Inconsistency in Tags
  2. Inconsistency in combo colours
[Easy]
  1. 00:41:408 - clap?
  2. 01:07:590 (4,1) - i'd combine them as a slider for the vocal
  3. 01:52:681 - feels empty, add a note?
[Normal]
  1. 00:32:681 (3) - clap
  2. 00:54:863 (3) - curve it a bit like this?
  3. 01:18:863 (3) - expand it to 01:19:590 - , and start the spinner 1/2 later
[Hard]
  1. 00:08:317 (3,4) - delete 4 and add an arrow for 3?
  2. 00:17:772 (1) - a bit hard to play, maybe stack it on 00:17:045 (1) -
  3. 01:20:317 (3) - NC for embarrassing 0.5x SV?
  4. 01:23:226 (7) - i'd use no arrow for this but curve slider like this
[Popipon!]
  1. Fine for me
[Insane]
  1. 00:45:409 (4,7,10) - NC, too confusing
  2. 01:01:409 (8,9) - whistle on each head
  3. 01:12:136 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - too sharp
  4. 01:52:318 (2) - ctrl+g would be better to play
  5. 01:53:045 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - too sharp again
  6. 02:04:682 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^
[Muzukashii]
  1. So many unsnapped circles from AIBAT, resnap plz
  2. 00:07:591 (3) - k
  3. 00:08:682 (2,1) - k d
  4. 00:13:410 (3) - k
  5. 00:22:135 (4) - k
  6. 00:27:954 (3) - k
  7. 00:45:954 (2) - k for all the places like this in that part?
  8. 01:01:772 (1,1,1) - kdd
  9. 01:11:954 (2,3) - kk
  10. 01:17:773 (2,3) - kk
  11. 01:52:682 (2,3) - kk
  12. 01:58:501 (2,3,5) - kk k
  13. 02:04:318 (2,3) - kk
  14. 02:10:137 (2,3) - kk
[Oni]
  1. So many unsnapped circles from AIBAT, resnap plz
  2. plz use same colors with Muzukashii.. too hard to understand the notes with the colors, so skip for now
I'm worrying the diff spread between Hard and Insane.. Insane diff is pretty hard you know
Maybe I would make an easier Insane diff if you allow..
Good luck then~
Topic Starter
Garven

Star Stream wrote:

From #modreqs

[General]
  1. Inconsistency in Tags orz fixed
  2. Inconsistency in combo colours This is fine since the ones for my own maps are lined up.
[Easy]
  1. 00:41:408 - clap? Done and added to another slider a little earlier for consistency
  2. 01:07:590 (4,1) - i'd combine them as a slider for the vocal Nah
  3. 01:52:681 - feels empty, add a note? Eh, sure. Also added one earlier in the first chorus.
[Insane]
  1. 00:45:409 (4,7,10) - NC, too confusing
    It goes with the lyrics pretty well, and everyone that I've had play test this hasn't had issue with it. I'm not going to spam new combos for the sake of a pattern - I'll redesign if I get too many complaints about it.
  2. 01:01:409 (8,9) - whistle on each head Nah
  3. 01:12:136 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - too sharp They feel good to me. Have any proposal for something better?
  4. 01:52:318 (2) - ctrl+g would be better to play Agreed. Also applied to 02:04:682 (5,6) - to keep the flow even.
  5. 01:53:045 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - too sharp again
  6. 02:04:682 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^
I'm worrying the diff spread between Hard and Insane.. Insane diff is pretty hard you know
Maybe I would make an easier Insane diff if you allow..

That's why I have Popipon! in there. q:

Good luck then~
Thanks a bunch, SS!
Lally
Hi from #modreqs :3

[General]
all ok o3o
[Easy]

i don't really like 1.2 distancespacing for a easy map :V
00:34:499 (3) - stack with 00:32:317 (2)
00:38:863 (1) - i think when you do a blanket for 00:39:954 (2) is better
well i think is more a normal than a easy map some patterns are hard to read for beginners like:
00:51:954 (3,4,1) - try something like this:
01:00:681 (2,3) - i think is better a slider here not this 2 circles
01:07:590 - i think here is better a notmal finish not a soft finish
01:08:317 - add a circle
02:05:045 - add a circle

[Beren]

00:11:954 (6) - stack it better with 00:10:499 (3)
i dunno wht to said about this 2 sliders 00:56:317 (1) and 02:11:954 (1) - i just don't like they ;w;
01:07:590 (4) - finish sound better here

[lolcubes]

01:20:317 - new combo for this slow slider

[Insane]

00:35:408 - nc
00:35:954 - remove nc
00:37:954 - nc
00:38:863 - remove nc
00:39:045 - nc
00:46:135 - nc
01:07:590 - how i said before is better a normal finish
01:48:499 - finish here

not a big mod but hope to be helpfull ^-^
Kiddo-Kun
Alright now.

[Beren's Normal]

• 00:56:317 (1) - The slider border is not visible since the slider itself is packed in too tightly and according to the rules, that is not allowed. You should also change this slider because it looks pretty bad. If you want the same loop affect, try having a slider like this.
• 02:11:954 (1) - This slider looks pretty awful and it overlaps itself too many times. Open the slider up so it looks better and plays better.

[Popipon!]

• 00:14:135 (1) - Remove the new combo on this slider. I see no point for it and it is inconsistent with the rest of the mapping pattern.
• 00:21:045 (7) - Add a new combo on this note to emphasize the slow down please.It's quite sudden.

[Insane]
* OD is pretty damn high. You may want to bring it down by a tick.

• 01:19:591 (1,2,3,4) - <3 Love this.

Well, I'll be back to give you a proper mod~ Hope I've been of use.
Topic Starter
Garven

Lally wrote:

Hi from #modreqs :3

[Easy]
i don't really like 1.2 distancespacing for a easy map :V

I do. <3

00:34:499 (3) - stack with 00:32:317 (2) I try to avoid stacking in easy difficulties, and that stack kind of kills the flow.
00:38:863 (1) - i think when you do a blanket for 00:39:954 (2) is better It would be nice, but the distance snapping would be all over the place.
well i think is more a normal than a easy map some patterns are hard to read for beginners like:
00:51:954 (3,4,1) - try something like this: I wanted a straight up -> down motion here, then a gap to go with the lyrics of "up down jump" so I adjusted the 2 slider and relocated the 1 slider to flow a little better.
01:00:681 (2,3) - i think is better a slider here not this 2 circles Nah
01:07:590 - i think here is better a notmal finish not a soft finish The soft finish accents the vocal so much better though D:
01:08:317 - add a circle Nah
02:05:045 - add a circle Nah

[Insane]

00:35:408 - nc
00:35:954 - remove nc
00:37:954 - nc
00:38:863 - remove nc
00:39:045 - nc
00:46:135 - nc
01:07:590 - how i said before is better a normal finish
01:48:499 - finish here

My new combo use is by musical measure and plan my patterns accordingly, so no changes on those. Same thing about the finishes.

not a big mod but hope to be helpfull ^-^
Many thanks!

Kiddo-Kun wrote:

Alright now.

[Insane]
* OD is pretty damn high. You may want to bring it down by a tick.

OD is perfect for this map. Lowering the OD would make it too easy.

• 01:19:591 (1,2,3,4) - <3 Love this. <3

Well, I'll be back to give you a proper mod~ Hope I've been of use.
Pokie submitted changes (not sure what, but probably all). Thanks a bunch!
lolcubes
Checked Lally's mod, will not apply the new combo for 2 reasons. One is that the new combo wouldn't fit the music because comboing is usually done by music patterns, and the other is that the ticks should be enough (along with intuitivity, I think), to tell it's a slowed one. Besides it's quite short in length and I don't think people will actually break on this because it's still long enough for any aware person to not stop holding I think.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Star Stream wrote:

[Hard]
  1. 00:08:317 (3,4) - delete 4 and add an arrow for 3? No thanks, this is intended for variety and double repeaters by themselves are unintuitive in this case.
  2. 00:17:772 (1) - a bit hard to play, maybe stack it on 00:17:045 (1) - It's slightly tricky, I agree, but the current patterns here don't really allow me to move it somewhere else without remapping this whole part. If you do have a suggestion on how to do this without breaking the patterns around this one, feel free to give some.
  3. 01:20:317 (3) - NC for embarrassing 0.5x SV? Explained above.
  4. 01:23:226 (7) - i'd use no arrow for this but curve slider like this This is done on purpose because the vocals have 3 keypoints, where it starts, where it becomes loud and where it ends.
Thanks for the mod, but no change for now. If you have a good suggestion about those patterns up there, feel free to post them and I will consider them.
Pokie

Garven wrote:

Pokie submitted changes (not sure what, but probably all). Thanks a bunch!
Yesu desu :oops:
lolcubes
http://puu.sh/1x9Q1

Just sharing this (bad) attempt at converting the Insane to TAG4 for people who are interested.
Nymph
[General]
I kinda feel the custom clap is not loud enough,some part I can't even heard it well. I think maybe it is better to make it a little louder?


[Easy]
01:07:590 (4) - I think maybe normal whistle is better, soft finish feel a little weird for me.(but I think it is personal style thing lol


[Beren's Normal]
fine


[lolcubes' Hard]
01:07:545 (4) - this slider looks the same as the slider here 01:06:317 (1), but it is using different speed. so maybe a newcombo here can help people read it :3
01:20:317 (1) - ^maybe a newcombo here too


[Popipon!]
fine.


[Insane]
God it's OD9 and these jumps X_X so insane
01:58:863 (6) - I kinda suggest a newcombo here, because I almost think 67 is a 1/2 beat jump too " 3 ".


awesome as I expected :3 really nothing much to mention, good luck!
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