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johnmedina999
If Death really is a doctor, then that only leaves Westonini, cravenfinder, and Penguin. Craven is the least spoken here, so he's a prime suspect; that leaves only Penguin and Westonini. If Death isn't a doctor, then [/i]someone[/i] had to be.
johnmedina999
Also, why did you decide to hammer Husa, Westo? Is it because you knew he was Town, and you would have won if a Doctor hadn't interfered?
cravenfiner
maybe he was just taking a chance, its all we really can do here

and i cant really defend myself when it comes to me being a suspect since i usually dont talk much, in real life mafia or online
Westonini

johnmedina999 wrote:

Also, why did you decide to hammer Husa, Westo? Is it because you knew he was Town, and you would have won if a Doctor hadn't interfered?


There wasn't any big reasons. It didn't seem like anything was going to change any time soon and Husa never really gave any points that felt reassuring to me. I gave them a chance to explain themselves but I wasn't too satisfied by what they said. I had some feelings that Husa was suspicious and others that made me think they were innocent. So with little time before the day ended, I just decided to go with the vote.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.2
[L-2]Penguin (1) - Death

Not voting (4) - cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
johnmedina999
To be perfectly honest, I don't know what to think anymore. You would think this late into the game there would be so much info that it would be 100% clear who is scum and who is not. But for some reason, I think it got harder to make that decision.
johnmedina999
Death is probably the guy who saved me, so I thank you for that.

Westonini has that hammer last in-game day which he explains is "I got bored". You don't just kill someone without hesitation like that. We still had some 12 hours before the deadline. But I digress.
Penguin gives me bad Mafia vibes but I don't have anything to back it up. He's trying really hard to come off as town, I think. But again, I have no dirt on him which would close the case.
cravenfinder has just not posted at all almost. idk. I want to suggest lynching him but if we fuck up one lynch from here on out we lose. He hasn't posted much and that's scummy but we saw last in-game day that this isn't always the case.

Again, I'm kind of at a crossroads here with no clear direction. I'm kind of freaking out right now >_<
Westonini

johnmedina999 wrote:

Westonini has that hammer last in-game day which he explains is "I got bored". You don't just kill someone without hesitation like that. We still had some 12 hours before the deadline. But I digress.


I mean I hesitated for days until I decided to actually vote for Husa. I was initially skeptical about the things they said. There were several things Husa said during the time that I waited, but regardless they still seemed the most suspicious to me out of everyone.
cravenfiner
just wanna correct a mistake ive been seeing with my name, it's cravenfiner, not cravenfinder
anyways
it might have to come down to who we think it is again since anything can be taken as suspicious and theres 3 suspects on the table
things arent looking that great for me since i havent posted much huh
johnmedina999

cravenfiner wrote:

just wanna correct a mistake ive been seeing with my name, it's cravenfiner, not cravenfinder
Oh, sorry about that, hehe. Didn't notice.

Westonini
me neither tbh

sorry.
Death
If penguin is mafia then abraker's read was pretty bad
Westonini
Are you talking about the one where he said "Ok got the reaction I wanted. Penguin is a safe town read"?

I'm honestly not sure what abraker's read back then was all about. I never bought that he was "drunk" and all his responses were so suspicious. I mean he ended up being a townie so maybe he actually was drunk? I mean it seemed like he just said that because he was trying to get Penguin off his back, but if that was the case the way he handled it really wasn't that great.
johnmedina999
https://old.ppy.sh/forum/p/6966360

This is the best I can find to solve this. He posted this around the same time as the fight (15-16 days ago) and he posted "blue moon belgian white" which are alcohol. So maybe he was drunk?
johnmedina999
Which means we can't trust abraker's read.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

I mean I hesitated for days until I decided to actually vote for Husa. I was initially skeptical about the things they said. There were several things Husa said during the time that I waited, but regardless they still seemed the most suspicious to me out of everyone.
That doesn't really mean much since it's a good play for mafia to do that anyways to come off as "indecisive" to act like town.

johnmedina999 wrote:

This is the best I can find to solve this. He posted this around the same time as the fight (15-16 days ago) and he posted "blue moon belgian white" which are alcohol. So maybe he was drunk?
To be fair, I can list off like 10-20 types of beer, it's not too difficult. I have no idea what abraker was thinking or what he was trying to do, so idk. In my opinion everything that abraker said is moot, especially since it was day 1 with no actual info besides reactions.
Penguin

johnmedina999 wrote:

Penguin gives me bad Mafia vibes but I don't have anything to back it up. He's trying really hard to come off as town, I think. But again, I have no dirt on him which would close the case.
I don't really get how explaining my thought process and my perspective is scummy.
cravenfiner

Westonini wrote:

I mean it seemed like he just said that because he was trying to get Penguin off his back, but if that was the case the way he handled it really wasn't that great.

I agree with westo here
johnmedina999
In what sense? You agree that abraker didn't handle it well? In that case, you would agree that abraker's read on Penguin isn't reliable.

Or do you agree that abraker was just being stupid?
cravenfiner
that abraker didnt handle it well
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.3
[L-2]Penguin (1) - Death

Not voting (4) - cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
Westonini
I don't think anyone considered abraker's read to be accurate, even back then.
johnmedina999
What other leads do we have?
Westonini
Maybe we could get some questions that craven, Penguin, and I all need to answer. And then whoever seems the most suspicious out of us three gets the boot? I dunno.
Death

Westonini wrote:

Maybe we could get some questions that craven, Penguin, and I all need to answer. And then whoever seems the most suspicious out of us three gets the boot? I dunno.
Not sure how that will prove anything. I really doubt we would be able to come up with anything good enough. Assuming there are two mafia (technically we still don't know whether or not this is the case?), we would then have two mafia coming up with questions for themselves to answer... In fact, that would most likely work against the town.
Westonini
Well if we did take that route, I was planning on making either you or John come up with some questions to ask. Since we're assuming you guys are both town.

It wouldn't really prove anything, it would just be a way of getting responses to get a better feel for a person. But I guess you guys already have your thoughts on everyone else from whats happened so far. Yeah I dunno I just kinda threw that idea out there since I'm not sure what else to talk about.
johnmedina999
Well, I guess it's fair game on who we lynch. Westonini is the only person who I have dirt on (even though he dispelled it pretty well last in-game day) so I'm going to vote for him for now. Probably gonna end up changing my vote though.

Vote: Westonini
Death
Very eventful thread recently.
Westonini
yeah...
cravenfiner
no idea what to do tbh
Topic Starter
Sakura
Penguin has been prodded
johnmedina999
To summarize the situation:

The vote is

1 on Penguin by Death
1 on Westonini by johnmedina999

We need to vote for someone or we lose. We have narrowed it down to three people, so it's a 2/3 chance to lynch Mafia. Westonini? Cravenfiner? Penguin? What do you guys think? Who do you want to vote for? Also, use this time to prove why you're not guilty, since all three of you are suspects.
cravenfiner
who ill vote for, im not sure

and to defend myself, im not sure how to do this, saying anything won’t really do much for me, i could try using my role to prove it but that’s too risky
Westonini
Well I'm not too sure what else to say to defend myself since everythings been said when John questioned me in the previous day. I mean if anyone has anything to ask me then I can try to answer it.

Also I just find it strange how Penguin is unusually quiet lately. Normally they talk quite frequently. Even with not much to talk about the rest of us have been at least communicating somewhat.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 3.4
[L-2] Penguin (1) - Death
[L-2] Westonini (1) - johnmedina999

Not voting (3) - cravenfiner, Westonini, Penguin
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
Dialect
official mafia day is feb 23 now
Death

cravenfiner wrote:

who ill vote for, im not sure

and to defend myself, im not sure how to do this, saying anything won’t really do much for me, i could try using my role to prove it but that’s too risky
I've already outed my role, so how risky could it possibly be?

johnmedina999 wrote:

We need to vote for someone or we lose. We have narrowed it down to three people, so it's a 2/3 chance to lynch Mafia. Westonini? Cravenfiner? Penguin? What do you guys think? Who do you want to vote for? Also, use this time to prove why you're not guilty, since all three of you are suspects.
1/3 if there is only 1 mafia, again, we still technically don't know whether or not that is the case.
cravenfiner
i have a one-shot role and i dont wanna use it unless im 100% sure, and im not 100% sure
Death
one-shot mafia boss
cravenfiner
lvl 100 mafia boss, but only for a moment
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