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I don't understand how you can't be scum if Husa is or isn't mafia. Kere saying that he would vote husa if it came down to it could also just be to save his ass. Similar to the same situation with Westo if he is mafia.johnmedina999 wrote:
Here are the possibilities, as I see them:Penguin wrote:
If westo was mafia, he would have already voted Husa if Husa was town. Which means that it would have to be Westo / Husa as mafia instead of Husa / John.If Husa is town, the first and second condition only leave the third: because Westo isn't voting for Husa I can infer that he is town. That only leaves Death, cravenfinder, and Penguin.
- Both Westo and Husa are scum. This means that the reason Westo is hesitant is because he doesn't want to kill a fellow Mafia member, despite what he says about feeling guilty of lynching a "fellow townie".
- Westo is scum and Husa is town. This is unlikely because he would have already won the game. One town Lynch and one nightkill = win for Mafia. On a side note, we can infer that everyone not voting for Husa as of this minute is town, because if not, the other Mafia member would have hammered him by now. Unless Husa is Mafia himself. If so, then I can't make a conclusion as affirmative as that.
- Westo is town. It doesn't matter whether Husa is scum of not because he can't know for sure. This would explain his hesitance.
However, if Husa isn't, then I can't say anything for certain. I also can't say if Husa is town or not, since he barely even talks. Anyone could be his partner.Assuming Husa is town, I can't be scum, see above logic. If he is, I can't be his partner either. Keremal expressly stated in his last post that he would hammer Husa if it came down to it. I can't really give more evidence due to Kere not talking much, but he's relatively new, and was most likely being honest when saying that.Penguin wrote:
But at the same time, YOU could possibly be trying to throw shade over towards Westo since you know that your teammate is on the chopping block right now.
But anyways..
From my point of view, it's either Husa/Westo, Husa/John, or Death/craven. I know that one of these are 100% correct since I know that I'm town 100% and by looking at the voting patterns. I understand that you guys can't be positive of me being town, but let's just assume some stuff real quick.
From John's point of view (including the assumption of my innocence), the main possibilities are Husa/Westo, and Death/craven, correct?. Now, this is assuming that both John and I are town. So if BOTH John and I are town, it has to be one of those two combos. Unless there are some crazy mind games with the voting, but I don't think that's happening.
Now if we look at Westo's point of view assuming John and I are town, then the only possibility would be Death/craven, right?
This is all from assuming 3 peoples innocence, which is a little risky. I've had a town read on Westo pretty much this entire game, so I'm confident in him being town. That leaves my point of view to either husa/john or death/craven.
So from my point of view, if John is innocent it HAS to be Death/craven. The only thing is, Husa has been really sketchy, so it's hard to assume John's innocence. I don't know how Husa plays though, so I can't even really say that it's exactly sketchy when it might just be him being normal.
johnmedina999 wrote:
It's your neutrality that doesn't sit right with me. It seems to me that you're not taking anyone's side, you're trying not to offend anyone, and therefore you won't get accused of being Mafia, and you can pick people off at night.
I understand your viewpoint. But the truth is that since I have no hard evidence on anyone's roles, I'm still skeptical of everyone. So I'll only take a side when I agree with what a side is saying or if there's no other options left.
He did not even come close to expressly stating this. At most he mentioned the very slight possibility that Husa is mafia for a single sentence in his last post, and then immediately proceeded to list the other possibility that he wasn't. And he also grouped me into the same Normal Townie group... I have already stated my opinion on that.johnmedina999 wrote:
Keremal expressly stated in his last post that he would hammer Husa if it came down to it.
I'm sticking with my original theory that Husa/keremal were mafia, and as such, now Husa/john are mafia. I think john's most recent posts are a desperate attempt to dig himself out of the hole that keremal left for him. Would have been a better strategy to just vote Husa and then absolve yourself of all guilt. I bet you could have fooled everyone with that too.
@Penguin
Hold on there. You can't leave yourself out of the polling. You can easily say that you're 100% town, but you can't prove it; no one can.
It seems like you're projecting the fact that you're town. If you were really town, you wouldn't have to yell it out to the world. You repeated the fact that you're town like three times. As you pointed out, we can't make that assumption. Stop acting scummy.
Hold on there. You can't leave yourself out of the polling. You can easily say that you're 100% town, but you can't prove it; no one can.
It seems like you're projecting the fact that you're town. If you were really town, you wouldn't have to yell it out to the world. You repeated the fact that you're town like three times. As you pointed out, we can't make that assumption. Stop acting scummy.
Kere didn't leave me in any "hole". He barely even posted. My posts so far in chronological order are as follows:Death wrote:
I think john's most recent posts are a desperate attempt to dig himself out of the hole that keremal left for him.
- Hello
- Pressure on Westo in order to get attention
- My reads so far + my response to Westo's post
- lol post
- Accusation of Penguin
By the way, you need to post more.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 2.6
[L-1] Husa (3) - Death, cravenfiner, Penguin
cravenfiner (1) - Husa
Westonini (1) - johnmedina999
Not Voting (1) - Westonini
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 16th 2019, 6:40 PM ESTcravenfiner (1) - Husa
Westonini (1) - johnmedina999
Not Voting (1) - Westonini
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
*get attention -> get information
@Sakura
You misspelled john's name in a few places.
"jhonmedina999"
Just thought I'd point it out.
You misspelled john's name in a few places.
"jhonmedina999"
Just thought I'd point it out.
That's the hole.johnmedina999 wrote:
Kere didn't leave me in any "hole". He barely even posted.
First of all, I stated at the beginning that I was making assumptions from MY viewpoint. Obviously, I'm going to leave myself out of the polling when I was showing my perspective.johnmedina999 wrote:
@Penguin
Hold on there. You can't leave yourself out of the polling. You can easily say that you're 100% town, but you can't prove it; no one can.
It seems like you're projecting the fact that you're town. If you were really town, you wouldn't have to yell it out to the world. You repeated the fact that you're town like three times. As you pointed out, we can't make that assumption. Stop acting scummy.
Second of all, I only stated that I was town once. The other times I said I was town (I also included you in the town assumption, not just me) was to provide context for the assumptions/theories I was putting out there.
I would not be able to make that post without first providing the context of assuming I'm town.
Just a side note, you're wrong in saying that no one can prove that I'm town. There are plenty of town investigative roles that can confirm the innocence of a town member. I don't think that we have one currently, but nonetheless, it's possible.
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Thanks, fixededWestonini wrote:
@Sakura
You misspelled john's name in a few places.
"jhonmedina999"
Just thought I'd point it out.
youre correct. this is my first game that i dont know much about until now, ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.Penguin wrote:
So from my point of view, if John is innocent it HAS to be Death/craven. The only thing is, Husa has been really sketchy, so it's hard to assume John's innocence. I don't know how Husa plays though, so I can't even really say that it's exactly sketchy when it might just be him being normal.
its ok for me to get lynched (because i barely have the time to be here) but id feel really bad for not saying anything up until now or read about what the games is all like about. hope the day wont end after my elimination, if the vote runs like: the most voted would get lynched until the deadline. or iirc if id get the 4th vote ?
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after rereading through a little in day 1 id say penguin could be suspicious. mostly because penguin did a "friendly" vote straight up to me, that could have been the intention to make a random vote chain on me, OR, because he brought the game to me and would like to see how i would react(?) but then theres the townie lover abraker who said penguin was a clear town read or something. I dont have much info to give, it might be outdated, my brain is so small and i might have missed something or interperrrkekrjtered it wrong. theres also craven trying to give us a "reminder" when sakura is there to warn us about the deadline
ill unvote for now and see what happens next
I don't get why you guys are calling it a "friendly vote". It was just an RVS vote, which means Random Voting Stage. It meant nothing.Husa wrote:
after rereading through a little in day 1 id say penguin could be suspicious. mostly because penguin did a "friendly" vote straight up to me, that could have been the intention to make a random vote chain on me,
ah fuck it. i dont really care anymore. lets just see what happens.
Vote: Husa
Vote: Husa
You can always give an example of you helping town. Even if it's a bad example, it still helps. You being suspicious of abraker, and then him flipping town is a bad example, but it helps.Penguin wrote:
First of all, I stated at the beginning that I was making assumptions from MY viewpoint. Obviously, I'm going to leave myself out of the polling when I was showing my perspective.
Second of all, I only stated that I was town once. The other times I said I was town (I also included you in the town assumption, not just me) was to provide context for the assumptions/theories I was putting out there.
I would not be able to make that post without first providing the context of assuming I'm town.
I like how you were calm and composed in your response. You always post like that on the forums, so it may just be that, but the fact that you didn't freak was good.
(Also yeah I forgot power roles existed, sorry about that.)
I don't know what to make of this.Husa wrote:
ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.
just read post above
"owh"
"owh"
Welp, looks like Husa's hitting the chopping blockWestonini wrote:
ah fuck it. i dont really care anymore. lets just see what happens.
Vote: Husa
Topic Starter
I'm not dead, i was at the hospital and then too tired to come here, enjoy the extended twilight for now.
action by not talking at alljohnmedina999 wrote:
You can always give an example of you helping town. Even if it's a bad example, it still helps. You being suspicious of abraker, and then him flipping town is a bad example, but it helps.Penguin wrote:
First of all, I stated at the beginning that I was making assumptions from MY viewpoint. Obviously, I'm going to leave myself out of the polling when I was showing my perspective.
Second of all, I only stated that I was town once. The other times I said I was town (I also included you in the town assumption, not just me) was to provide context for the assumptions/theories I was putting out there.
I would not be able to make that post without first providing the context of assuming I'm town.
I like how you were calm and composed in your response. You always post like that on the forums, so it may just be that, but the fact that you didn't freak was good.
(Also yeah I forgot power roles existed, sorry about that.)I don't know what to make of this.Husa wrote:
ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.
because:Westonini wrote:
ah fuck it. i dont really care anymore. lets just see what happens.
Vote: Husa
he knows what i can do and wants to try kill me off before he gets find out?Husa wrote:
ive read about what my role can do and i regret that i didnt take any action the first day.
Vote: Westonini
yikes... how should we break the news to husa?Husa wrote:
he knows what i can do and wants to try kill me off before he gets find out?
Vote: Westonini
Husa, the ropes already around your neck and there's no taking it off.
Oh man, I hope everything's alright.Sakura wrote:
I'm not dead, i was at the hospital and then too tired to come here, enjoy the extended twilight for now.
oh extended twilight, and yeah hope youll be ok sakura
Topic Starter
Vote Count 2.7
Husa Town Seer has been lynched Day 2
[LYNCH] Husa (4) - Death, cravenfiner, Penguin, Westonini
Westonini (1) - johnmedina999
Not Voting (1) - Husa
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Westonini (1) - johnmedina999
Not Voting (1) - Husa
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch
Husa Town Seer has been lynched Day 2
Topic Starter
It is now, Night 2. Deadline is 24 hours from this post.
Send me all your actions via PM, you may change your action as many times as you want before deadline, if i dont receive any action by deadline, it will count as No Action.
You may also PM me No Action to cancel your last submitted action
Send me all your actions via PM, you may change your action as many times as you want before deadline, if i dont receive any action by deadline, it will count as No Action.
You may also PM me No Action to cancel your last submitted action
Topic Starter
In addition if EVERY player with a night active action PMs me wanting to acceledate the night, night will end early.
Topic Starter
No one has died Night 2
It is now Day 3, Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
Vote Count 3.0
It is now Day 3, Deadline: Feb 23rd: 10:08 PM EST
Vote Count 3.0
Not voting (5) - Penguin, Cravenfiner, Westonini, johnmedina999, Death
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch
Not sure how I'm not dead. But since you guys probably want to lynch me today. I can say with 99% certainty that the mafia is penguin, craven, or Westonini. Take that as you will.
Also, how are you gonna be a seer and not say anything all game....
Also, how are you gonna be a seer and not say anything all game....
My guess is Penguin is definitely one due to how willing he was to lynch Husa after I first proposed him. After that would be Craven, but I won't rule Westonini out.
Vote: Penguin
Vote: Penguin
does that mean that you are an investigator or something? since you didnt say john was part of the mafia
Either that mafia voted to not kill anyone last night (which would be really stupid), or they tried to kill john... and failed.
By admitting that I'm most likely going to die tonight. But since I was probably going to be lynched today anyway, it's worth it. Also if the mafia lose that would be great too.
By admitting that I'm most likely going to die tonight. But since I was probably going to be lynched today anyway, it's worth it. Also if the mafia lose that would be great too.
oh, wait, nevermind i see why you didnt include john in that i understand now
Regarding the husa vote, I was already suspicious of his lack of posts, so that's why I wasn't hesitant to start up a vote for him. Getting a vote out for him got the ball rolling and we got more information out of it. Saving my vote would help less so because more votes = more panic = more info.Death wrote:
My guess is Penguin is definitely one due to how willing he was to lynch Husa after I first proposed him. After that would be Craven, but I won't rule Westonini out.
It's pretty clear that John is town now since husa was town. I'm 100% sure of that.
Death wrote:
Either that mafia voted to not kill anyone last night (which would be really stupid), or they tried to kill john... and failed.
Ah. I was confused as to why no one died. I guess I should google the roles again.
As soon as I saw Husa's role, I thought it was all over.
so if mafia did attack and fail last night, then John is confirmed and I'd be fairly certain that death is town as well because of his "hint-hint nudge-nudge". There's no reason for mafia to hold their attack, so I'm pretty sure that Death and John are confirmed. It's possible that Death wanted to quick claim Doctor before the real doc did because he knew that he attacked someone who was healed. No one else has claimed doc though, so he's most likely a safe town.
Hold on.
How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.
How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.
My assumption was that Death healed you last night. That's what I interpreted from his post earlier. I'm pretty sure I'm right, but I guess I could be wrong?johnmedina999 wrote:
Hold on.
How come everyone's assuming that I was the target?
This is more for learning, I only have one other game under my belt.