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abraker

Penguin wrote:

It'd be cool if people discussed what has happened in this game so far.
So far it's just me accusing of everyone being mafia, getting drunk, and having a logical short circuit.
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Westonini wrote:

By the way, if someone doesn't reach 5 votes to be lynched by Feb 8th, does no one get lynched or does the person with the most votes get lynched?
If it's a tie, first voted person in tie gets lynched
otherwise the one with most votes

Sakura wrote:

if the day reaches deadline before a majority is reached, the day will end with a No Lynch."
I'm pretty sure you're incorrect. Unless I am misinterpreting something, idk
Westonini
Its been like three days and I already forgot that was in the rules.
GuyInFreezer
abraker is this your first game ever
abraker

Penguin wrote:

abraker wrote:

Westonini wrote:

By the way, if someone doesn't reach 5 votes to be lynched by Feb 8th, does no one get lynched or does the person with the most votes get lynched?
If it's a tie, first voted person in tie gets lynched
otherwise the one with most votes

Sakura wrote:

if the day reaches deadline before a majority is reached, the day will end with a No Lynch."
I'm pretty sure you're incorrect. Unless I am misinterpreting something, idk
Some games have have different rules. Maybe last one I played had it different

GuyInFreezer wrote:

abraker is this your first game ever
It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

It'd be cool if people discussed what has happened in this game so far.
So far it's just me accusing of everyone being mafia, getting drunk, and having a logical short circuit.
again, I don't believe the "drunk" excuse
abraker
What do I have to gain by making a mistake and then correcting myself in a follow up post a few seconds later?
Penguin
My point is that I think you're trying to get people to brush off your scum behavior by claiming that you're drinking.
abraker
explain how my behavior is scum like
GuyInFreezer

abraker wrote:

It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Darn.
Here I thought I could get an easy read.
abraker

GuyInFreezer wrote:

abraker wrote:

It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Darn.
Here I thought I could get an easy read.
Go ahead and go through my previous games if you'd like

https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=3
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=137
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=161
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=264
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/625397
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/552912
Penguin
First off, you tried to counter my scumread of Kere and defend him, while trying to put suspicion on me. When you started making no sense in your arguments, you suddenly posted:

abraker wrote:

Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read
You didn't even explain how you were scum testing until GuyInFreezer and Westo asked you. I believe that you were just trying to do damage control because you realized that your arguments made no sense and that you were looking very scummy. By saying that you think I'm a safe town read, you were trying to get me to dismiss my suspicions about you. Trying to make me feel safe with you or something. Plus, when you did tell us how you scum tested, it wasn't even a solid scum test.
Penguin
You brought up that you've been "drinking" to us twice now too. Seems like you're subtly trying to make excuses.
abraker

Penguin wrote:

You didn't even explain how you were scum testing until GuyInFreezer and Westo asked you.
Normally you wouldn't do that until time is almost up. You don't want to lay all your cards on the table from the beginning, otherwise mafia scum will just adapt to everything.

Penguin wrote:

I believe that you were just trying to do damage control because you realized that your arguments made no sense and that you were looking very scummy
Trust me, that's not even close to damage control. I can't even consider that as damage control. Real damage control comes when you are one vote away from lynch and you got a possible mafia who can vote you for game victory, so you need to get one of the townies off your back asap. I speak from experience: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5855775

Penguin wrote:

By saying that you think I'm a safe town read, you were trying to get me to dismiss my suspicions about you. Trying to make me feel safe with you or something
Felt like that was the best way to end that. I had no more need to go out on the offensive against you

Penguin wrote:

Plus, when you did tell us how you scum tested, it wasn't even a solid scum test.
You can't possible do any solid test this early in the game. Everything is just to feel the waters, get info about how people react. It's the only thing you can do day 1 besides staying quiet.

Penguin wrote:

You brought up that you've been "drinking" to us twice now too. Seems like you're subtly trying to make excuses.
The second time was not an excuse, but a recap of what happened. I have no need to push an excuse that doesn't benefit me whatsoever
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.5
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (4) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST

cravenfiner has been prodded
abraker
everyone, please subscribe to this thread so you dont forget it exists
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

You didn't even explain how you were scum testing until GuyInFreezer and Westo asked you.
Normally you wouldn't do that until time is almost up. You don't want to lay all your cards on the table from the beginning, otherwise mafia scum will just adapt to everything.
I still feel like explaining yourself helps town more.

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

I believe that you were just trying to do damage control because you realized that your arguments made no sense and that you were looking very scummy
Trust me, that's not even close to damage control. I can't even consider that as damage control. Real damage control comes when you are one vote away from lynch and you got a possible mafia who can vote you for game victory, so you need to get one of the townies off your back asap. I speak from experience: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5855775
Using that example doesn't prove anything. Damage control is damage control. It doesn't matter that there's a more extreme form of damage control or not.

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

You brought up that you've been "drinking" to us twice now too. Seems like you're subtly trying to make excuses.
The second time was not an excuse, but a recap of what happened. I have no need to push an excuse that doesn't benefit me whatsoever
I know that the second time wasn't specifically stated as an excuse. My point was that you're hinting at the fact that you're "drunk" and trying to subtly keep is in our minds which would make us think that your scumminess is moot because of your drinking.

Assuming that my scum read on you is correct, then you making excuses for your scumminess would benefit you.
cravenfiner

abraker wrote:

At this point I want to hear more from Death, cravenfiner, and Husa

i havent said much since im new at this and not great at investigations


abraker wrote:

everyone, please subscribe to this thread so you dont forget it exists

thank you for reminding me of this feature
GuyInFreezer

abraker wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

abraker wrote:

It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Darn.
Here I thought I could get an easy read.
Go ahead and go through my previous games if you'd like

https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=3
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=137
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=161
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=264
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/625397
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/552912
I'm going to flat out tell you that I won't read them.
I don't find it helpful unless I was in the game myself.

(Also I'm too lazy to read past games)
GuyInFreezer

cravenfiner wrote:

i havent said much since im new at this and not great at investigations
Still do tell me what you think about all this though.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Keremal has been prodded!
Westonini
With it being Day 1 the only thing everyone has to go off of is mostly contradictions and suspicious wording.

From my perspective right now, abraker does seem to be the most suspicious out of everyone thus far (or at least out of those who actually engage in conversations). If nothing changes I'll probably end up voting for him. We've got a lot of time left though, so who knows if it will end up changing.
abraker
the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens
abraker
what I am trying to say is that if I did not want to get lynched I would have been more quiet because that strategy always works with newbies for reasons being demonstrated right now. Veterans are more keened to vote the silent ones out because they contribute least to the game
Penguin

abraker wrote:

the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens
In my experience, the ones who talk themselves into the grave are, for the most part, actually scum. I don't ever have a problem with coming off as scum unless I actually play as scum. You're just more prone to subconsciously doing scummy things when you are scum. That's just me though, so idk.
Death

abraker wrote:

the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens



abraker wrote:

That's how the mafia works
Westonini

abraker wrote:

the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens


It seems only natural considering we've got practically nothing on the silent ones and it's only the first day.
abraker
westonini you missed the point

if I didn't want to get lynched then I would have been more quiet
Westonini
No I understood. All I'm saying is that it's not surprising that this was the outcome.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.6
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (4) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
GuyInFreezer

Penguin wrote:

In my experience, the ones who talk themselves into the grave are, for the most part, actually scum.

It's actually case-by-case and playstyle has a high factor in it.
But I don't want to read his past games so do that for me.
Husa
need more information qwq
keremaru
wonder how stating lynching on first day was too early made me sus for mafioso, but ok. anything can be sus on first two days tbf
abraker

Husa wrote:

need more information qwq
you get info by accusing others or mafia. The price? You are now mafia according to everyone else.
cravenfiner

keremal wrote:

anything can be sus on first two days tbf

i agree with this
abraker
*you get info by accusing others of mafia
Penguin
so what's the plan?
abraker

sakura wrote:

i will randomize roles for every player in the game until there's at least 50% town players and at least 1 anti town player, i will continue to randomize until at least something's balanced and/or fun

I doubt 1 mafia vs 7 townies will make things balanced. That is because there is 1/8 chance you can lynch mafia day 1 and that will be end of game. That's not really fun. 3 mafia will be hellish because in worst case scenario you can get a townie lynched and another killed at night, making it 2 vs 3 by day two. To make things interesting, there could a third-party. But yea, 2 mafia is what we should be up against.

Given that, let's look at the vote list:

  • Voting: abraker, Death, keremal, Penguin
    Not voting: cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa


I'd say there are good odds that there is one scum in the voting group and one scum in the not voting group.
abraker
My bad make 3 vs 3 if there are 3 mafia. Was thinking of 4 townie vs 3 mafia starting, which isn't right. That combo can also work. So make that 2-3 mafia in this game.
abraker
but I highly doubt 3. Will be surprised if so
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