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abraker
"Cute anime girls" does sound a bit pervy
Meah
I'm moe
Penguin

Meah wrote:

I'm moe
I agree! I should've just linked your profile instead of pasting the definition tbh
Meah
Yes, I'm the very definition of it
Westonini
oh damn that's brazy
Brainage

Penguin wrote:

oh boy... can't tell if you're actually retarded or trying to bait me
50% of people say it's an attraction to young-looking girls, 50% say it's where the female in question is prepubescent so i'll let you decide on that one
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Winnyace

Penguin wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Brainage wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

my friends tell me I'm gay bc I like lolis. what should I do?
well it depends on your gender and the loli's gender. also it's not pedophilia to those who mentioned it, loli is a body type not an age thing.
oh boy... can't tell if you're actually retarded or trying to bait me
OPINION ALERT: the line between lolicon and pedophile is fragile. very fragile. but, if the line isn't crossed, then there isn't a problem to have here.

no a loli is a age thing most of the time. there are characters over 18 years old that look and act like a child tho.
Pedophile and lolicon mean the exact same thing, there is no line lmao. The only real difference is that the word lolicon is mostly referred to when it comes to anime/hentai and stuff in Japanese culture. People just try to downplay the fact that they're sexually objectifying prepubescent girls by saying "but its just cartoons!!!!"

The word "lolicon" (lolita complex) comes from a book written by Vladimir Nabokov called Lolita. It's a book about a middle-aged man that becomes sexually obsessed with a twelve-year-old girl. That's called pedophilia.

and don't get me started with the "argument/loophole" where the character is actually 100 years old or some shit. It doesn't change the fact that it's still a prepubescent child. IMO people who try to use that excuse are delusional.
to some degree, yea, lolicons are pedophiles. but, if lolicon in question doesn't cross the very blurry line for us (that being downloading, uploading and/or sharing loli hentai) then I don't see the problem. I myself have crossed this line but this is another can of worms

a lot of loli art it's very suggestive. it's quite hard to find normal, plain lolis that just smile and just sit there being lolis. (at least it's hard for me).
abraker
lolicon is a term that implies pedophile. There is only full 100 degrees of boiling hot FBI, not some degree.

loli is a more grey line term because it has different meaning depending on who you ask. Some associate it with lolicon while others don't. But ofc the more negative view is going to stick out more.
Penguin

Winnyace wrote:

I myself have crossed this line but this is another can of worms
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Westonini
Penguin will remember that.
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Winnyace

Penguin wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I myself have crossed this line but this is another can of worms
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there goes all my rep I've built on this forums
abraker
you had none to begin with
which means you now have negative reputation
Aiseca
Negative stars are bad in game
Penguin
It is very hard to build back up from negative. Only time can heal such a wound.
Meah
Hello sir, this isn't FBI but can I have all of your addresses?
Westonini
no
Penguin

Brainage wrote:

Penguin wrote:

oh boy... can't tell if you're actually retarded or trying to bait me
50% of people say it's an attraction to young-looking girls, 50% say it's where the female in question is prepubescent so i'll let you decide on that one
So basically you're saying it's possible that lolicons like lolis not for the fact that they're prepubescent girls, but for the fact that they LOOK like prepubescent girls? That's the exact same thing, there's absolutely no difference, lmao.

Again, the only reason why people would say that they're only attracted to the "look" of young girls and not the prepubescent aspect is to make themselves feel better about their pedophilic tendencies.

I'm not going to try talk to you about this anymore though, I highly doubt that I'll be able to get anything substantial from you and I still can't tell if you're trolling.
keremal
lolis are not gay unless they're traps
then those lolis aren't gay unless they're reverse traps
then those lolis are reverse traps pretending to be traps pretending to be lolis when they could've been a loli from the get go

lolitsalex
Westonini
I'd like to think that most lolicons aren't into lolis because they're prepubescent girls, but perhaps instead it's because of their cuteness factor. They may be attracted to solely the cuteness of a quirky anime character but would be appalled by the thought of being attracted to an underage girl in real life because they don't see them anywhere near as cute if at all (their morals would also obviously play a factor). These anime characters were meant to be drawn up as being very cute and innocent just so they're likable by the viewers, but I'm thinking that some people may like this cuteness a bit.. more than others. But even so, if that's the case then I don't really care.

However if they're into lolis and find real life little girls cute then I start to get a bit suspicious..

I dunno, I just tend to avoid calling people pedophiles if they're into lolis because I don't know what's going through their heads and they may not see things the way I think they are (such as the example I mentioned above). Unless of course I know for a fact that they're actually attracted to young children, then that shits disgusting and I will definitely call them out on that.

I don't actually know anyone who's a lolicon, or have at least told me openly, so this is all pretty much just speculation since I've never been able to ask one what their reasons are for being one.
Penguin

Westonini wrote:

I'd like to think that most lolicons aren't into lolis because they're prepubescent girls, but perhaps instead it's because of their cuteness factor.
It doesn't matter why they like lolis, they still have a sexual attraction towards them, so it's still pedophilic.

If someone finds lolis cute/adorable and only that, then they aren't lolicons. The definition of a "lolicon" pertains to the sexual attraction to lolis. Finding them cute is, like I talked about with abraker above, because of the "moe" aspect.
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