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Tomoya Ohtani - Rooftop Run (Daytime) [Osu|Taiko]

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Patcheresu
I know, but the still of Sonic just floating seems very unattractive to me. It is likely iak won't do it anyway, which is why it is a side note. He said he had personal reasons to use a sort of minimalist style without videos on his mod queue. My map isn't complete without my video but he helped. I at least know how well Grid Snap works now, all thanks to him.

Now I play the waiting game. Seriously, this map seems almost finished product in quality, but the color choice makes me question it. It works, awesomely at that, but why? I chose those colors because they compliment the color of the Half-Life logo. That's just my personal opinion, and I will respect yours higher, for being with iak for much longer than I have. Nevertheless, I will continue to try and mod this map, for free and any kudosu I get from here are probably going to this. It is a goal of mine to put this higher. Much, much higher. Maybe, if we work hard enough, it may even appear on the first page in the forum. *checks front page*

...Make that a dream of mine because it ain't happening any time soon TT_TT

I like this picture:

Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Hm... My reason of not using video is that it feels bad in this song. I'd put one if the song needs some video (like, it's a music that I know to have a music video that is simply very cool that it cannot be left out, or something like that). Unfortunately, this is not the case.

Rooftop Jog clap inconsistency: Oh yeah I forgot. But the claps aren't put as what you think they would be...
Fading out at the end: It feels weird not to fade it. Although if more people apparently prefer no fade, then I'll go for it.

What colors? Combo colors? The four colors most resemble the buildings' colors in my opinion :P

Your image is pretty great; I'll use it. I'm curious about the source though; for whatever reason I suspect Sonic Generations or Mario and Sonic at the London Olympic Games (okay the latter is pretty much impossible because there's no Mario, but still, it's London). Where did you get the image?

Also yay spammed my kudosus on this :P
Patcheresu

chaotic_iak wrote:

Hm... My reason of not using video is that it feels bad in this song. I'd put one if the song needs some video (like, it's a music that I know to have a music video that is simply very cool that it cannot be left out, or something like that). Unfortunately, this is not the case.

Rooftop Jog clap inconsistency: Oh yeah I forgot. But the claps aren't put as what you think they would be...
Fading out at the end: It feels weird not to fade it. Although if more people apparently prefer no fade, then I'll go for it.

What colors? Combo colors? The four colors most resemble the buildings' colors in my opinion :P

Your image is pretty great; I'll use it. I'm curious about the source though; for whatever reason I suspect Sonic Generations or Mario and Sonic at the London Olympic Games (okay the latter is pretty much impossible because there's no Mario, but still, it's London). Where did you get the image?

Also yay spammed my kudosus on this :P
Spagonia=Italy So its not the Olympics.

I got it from tumbler. http://tjevo9-sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com/ I was searching for rooftop run in Google Images and this popped up.

Really, I thought it was supposed to represent Italy's themes as the colors feel light and the green reminds me of olive green, not trees.
qwertykool
Well, I'm glad it's resolved :D

Patch, any modding on mine?
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chaotic_iak
Why there is something like Big Ben there -_- (Or I fail at knowing landmarks miserably)

Err... Okay. Any idea on more "proper" combo colors?

Also since Patch starts from low-diff maps, I guess he's not ready for insane maps yet.
qwertykool
Good point xD
Patcheresu

qwertykool wrote:

Well, I'm glad it's resolved :D

Patch, any modding on mine?
Here I go!

chaotic_iak wrote:

Why there is something like Big Ben there -_- (Or I fail at knowing landmarks miserably)

Err... Okay. Any idea on more "proper" combo colors?

Also since Patch starts from low-diff maps, I guess he's not ready for insane maps yet.
Yes, this is true, by body isn't ready for anything higher than Normal and I continue to fail that at times. Big Ben isn't the only clock tower in the world.

Nevertheless, cue up Running Hell, I've got an Insane to mod.

QWERTYUIOPAINBUBGAIBGUBG:OBGBG:B:BG
00:29:605 (1,1) - Why are these different combos? Like all the sets before them, each combo clued in that you were changing up the rhythm you have to click to. But these are the same, yet each is a single note combo. Not just any single note combo duo but one that directly proceeds a spinner.

00:59:265 (3,3) - Odd Obscurity Overlap Observation. Ditching that silly sentence, your snap situation and directional distance is fascinatingly fabulous. However, expecting people to be able to correct their mouse placement and keep the rhythm in 1/8 isn't cool at all. Maybe its because I don't understand Insane maps but oh well.

01:12:263 (1) - After this spinner parts of your map begin to resemble earlier parts of it.

01:32:925 (9,10) - Pardon my language, but you clever little asshole. After a full map of amazing spacing, you pull that. And the thing is, it's perfectly acceptable because this is Insane.


01:45:422 (1,2,3,4) - Nice style, acceptable spacing. It just irks me how it immediately bumps ahead about a half of a circle but has the same rhythm. You have a very precise graph, you can slide them (them being 3 4 and 5) closer a little.

02:42:598 (9,10,11,12,1) - SANIC HEGEHOG II: RETURN OF THE DEATHSTREAM. That is to say, this is the second time in the map you pulled that crap. Not an ask for it to be removed, just a warning how evil it is.

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EDIT: Turns out its based on all of Western Europe, so the clock tower may be Big Ben. But the buildings seem reminiscent of Italy. Could be Spain or France for all I know. But both of those countries got steam rolled by Italy in the time of Rome and this is not the time for Latin or History. Point is, you're right I'm wrong, let's talk about modding! :)
qwertykool
Wait, what map is that? xD Imma'ssume it's mine! :3
qwertykool
Thanks, Patch. It's evil because I love you.
http://puu.sh/15JV4
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Updated.

qwertykool (and Patcheresu too probably, and more people that have downloaded this map and have played it) should be aware of the background change...
qwertykool
Merci, monsieur! If I had more stars I'd put 'em here. D:
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Oh hey do you get the images? Do I need to do a full submission istead of standard submission when changing background image? ...oops.
qwertykool
Yeah, full submission. Other wise it has no official preview on the site! :3
okamiratsu
I love this song are you looking for a taiko diff because i can do one if you want
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Okay, but I can't do Taiko so you might need to wait for mods to improve it.
P o M u T a
Great map :D but, i haven't star ._.
Kin
Hi ~
Sorry for late mod .__.
Here some suggest

Easy :

01:20:261 (5,2) - overlap : http://puu.sh/1blPn
02:09:583 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - there is too many circle here, it's easier if you make something like this : http://puu.sh/1blTz
02:42:909 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - too many circle here, add some slider

Normal :

00:24:273 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm0n
480,192,15608,2,0,B|480:272|464:368,1,96,8|0
00:29:605 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm25
32,192,20941,2,0,B|32:272|48:368,1,96,8|0
01:17:595 (1,2,3) - I think beatsnap 1/2 is too hard for normal diff (for 180 BPM)
01:22:927 (1,2,3) - ^
01:28:259 (1,2,3) - ^
01:33:591 (1,2,3) - ^
01:42:922 (3,4,5) - ^

Hard :

00:13:109 - maybe add one slider : http://puu.sh/1bm98
00:18:441 - ^
00:21:607 (1,4) - It's good looking but I don't think overlap like this is really good
00:26:939 (1,4) - ^
00:24:773 (7,1) - overlap
nothing here ? 01:20:927 -
02:00:252 (1,4) - this overlap is not really good looking
02:05:584 (1,4) - ^

Insane :

00:44:102 (3,1) - overlap

Good luck with ranking ~
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Meh not noticed mod

Kin wrote:

Hi ~
Sorry for late mod .__. Sorry for not noticing mod too ._.
Here some suggest

Easy :

01:20:261 (5,2) - overlap : http://puu.sh/1blPn Not too overlap; I don't think Easy players will have any problem here.
02:09:583 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - there is too many circle here, it's easier if you make something like this : http://puu.sh/1blTz Changed
02:42:909 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - too many circle here, add some slider Changed

Normal :

00:24:273 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm0n Changed? Seems like no change but whatever.
480,192,15608,2,0,B|480:272|464:368,1,96,8|0
00:29:605 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm25 ^
32,192,20941,2,0,B|32:272|48:368,1,96,8|0
01:17:595 (1,2,3) - I think beatsnap 1/2 is too hard for normal diff (for 180 BPM) Changed
01:22:927 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:28:259 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:33:591 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:42:922 (3,4,5) - ^ Not changed because Normal should learn something like that too

Hard :

00:13:109 - maybe add one slider : http://puu.sh/1bm98 I intend to follow the guitar
00:18:441 - ^ ^
00:21:607 (1,4) - It's good looking but I don't think overlap like this is really good Changed
00:26:939 (1,4) - ^ Changed
00:24:773 (7,1) - overlap Changed
nothing here ? 01:20:927 - Added something
02:00:252 (1,4) - this overlap is not really good looking Changed
02:05:584 (1,4) - ^ Changed

Insane :

00:44:102 (3,1) - overlap Intended

Good luck with ranking ~ Thanks :)
okamiratsu
Scratch the 2 day wait and sorry for the delay
osu file format v10

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Title:Rooftop Run (Daytime)
TitleUnicode:
Artist:Tomoya Ohtani
ArtistUnicode:
Creator:chaotic_iak
Version:Ratsu's Taiko
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256,40,175594,5,2,0:0:0
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Included. But now as the rule of "no Taiko diff at all or at least two" has been applied, I need to make a Taiko diff. But I'm not good at it. Meh. Gotta make something that I can play.
Yu-Izanagi-12
I love this sonic track great job
I found some combo burst you may like http://www.mediafire.com/?bs9ywn2ncvniqgs
qwertykool
iak, why do you have the "no taiko or two" rule? It really limits the map, if you can't map taiko, don't map it. :/
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
See rules in wiki. In Mapset section or something.
qwertykool
Wow I'm late reacting to this, xD but you are really careful with the rules. (Nothing wrong) The thing is, there are many maps with only one taiko or ctb map, and they're ranked. The map's just getting a lot of diffs, and that's great, but you probably don't want to add any more. Also, I can try to mod your taiko, or I can take it over if you don't want to have to maintain it. All of our diffs can definitely be improved. I really like how this map is headed, but make sure to watch the map amount. : D
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
It was a recent rule.

Hm if you can make a Taiko diff easier than the one here (as in I should be able to pass the Taiko diff :P ), you can put it here.
qwertykool
Mmk, I can def. try. : D
qwertykool
Little harder than I wanted, but I think it turned out pretty cool.

http://puu.sh/1mtzF

Star for map?
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Updated.

I don't quite understand what "star for map?" means :P
qwertykool
kudosu silly : D
qwertykool
You're the best :3
qwertykool
Updates for both of my maps, timing changes and sound changes.
http://puu.sh/1t793 -taiko! (PS You'll have to delete the old Taiko map, because this one has a name change.
http://puu.sh/1t790 -osu!

IMPORTANT ITTY BITTY MOD - READ FIRST
Copy and paste my timing points to your maps. I was doing my taiko and realized it was really of in the second half of the song. I copied my timing points from my osu map and readjusted the points to the correct timing, it sounded perfect. I would highly recommend this. If you want to talk about it, discuss it with me over PM. Also, if you don't believe me, play the older version of my map and the newer version of the map (taiko) and notice the difference.
P o M u T a
fmm,
Roof Breaker mod(Lunatic) mod.

OD9 orz.. i don't like... →8 or 7 better. because , stream many.
・fmm, Lunatic → Extra ? :o Luntatic is Tohou (東方)
・00:12:442 (4) - repeat arrows on sliders must be visible.
・00:17:775 (4) - ^
・00:21:940 (1) - ^
・00:53:600 (1) - Add finish slider head.
・00:58:932 (1) - many repeat. The people may not predict this. As suggestion, employ some 1/2slider.
・01:00:932 (4) - You try it.http://puu.sh/1yAl1 (3) is repeat 1. Add note x:256 Y:32 01:00:932. Looks very good. because,next note Good contrast.
・01:22:427 (13) - 01:22:594(14) stack please. good flow. (x:256 Y:304)
・01:33:924 (1) - Add 1/2 repeat slider , very sound nice. example http://puu.sh/1yAsi
・01:38:590 (12) - Add NC
・01:44:255 (1) - Add finish.

Worth a star.

good luck ;3
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak

P o M u T a wrote:

fmm,
Roof Breaker mod(Lunatic) mod.

OD9 orz.. i don't like... →8 or 7 better. because , stream many. Changed. I wanted to keep this 5.00 stars, but apparently OD 7 still gives 5.00 stars.
・fmm, Lunatic → Extra ? :o Luntatic is Tohou (東方) Changed.
・00:12:442 (4) - repeat arrows on sliders must be visible. Changed.
・00:17:775 (4) - ^ Changed.
・00:21:940 (1) - ^ I don't think it's invisible (it's not covered by 8's hitburst, and I think it's enough time to notice.
・00:53:600 (1) - Add finish slider head. Changed.
・00:58:932 (1) - many repeat. The people may not predict this. As suggestion, employ some 1/2slider. Changed, although probably not what you expect. (After all it's a 1/2 slider.)
・01:00:932 (4) - You try it.http://puu.sh/1yAl1 (3) is repeat 1. Add note x:256 Y:32 01:00:932. Looks very good. because,next note Good contrast. Changed.
・01:22:427 (13) - 01:22:594(14) stack please. good flow. (x:256 Y:304) Changed, but probably not what you expect because I also change the next one.
・01:33:924 (1) - Add 1/2 repeat slider , very sound nice. example http://puu.sh/1yAsi Added.
・01:38:590 (12) - Add NC Changed.
・01:44:255 (1) - Add finish. Changed.

Worth a star. Thanks!

good luck ;3
Updated.
FerreTrip
This ain't a bad map, but it still needs some work. I found myself getting thrown off when you almost randomly switch which voice you want the player to follow. Pick a voice (violins, guitar, etc.) for a phrase or two, don't just suddenly switch partway through. That's disorienting.

Also, I'm a n00b, but it almost feels like Insane's punishment for missing a marker is too severe.
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak

FerreTrip wrote:

This ain't a bad map, but it still needs some work. I found myself getting thrown off when you almost randomly switch which voice you want the player to follow. Pick a voice (violins, guitar, etc.) for a phrase or two, don't just suddenly switch partway through. That's disorienting.
Can you tell me which difficulties have this issue? My first ever beatmap which was made in my old style, so it might be because of my inexperience.

FerreTrip wrote:

Also, I'm a n00b, but it almost feels like Insane's punishment for missing a marker is too severe.
HD 8, OD 7. I don't think it's too severe for Insane, where the beats are not actually Insane anyway (more like Hard+?). If you mean Roof Breaker (Extra), it's also obvious because it's Extra. If you mean Rooftop Hustle, ask qwertykool.

Thanks for your opinion!
qwertykool
This map's gettin lots of mods, iak! :D
Hopefully more will come though, since it's been a while. :c
Omk294
Don't know why this never became a ranked map packs,
Most mode are really good, Can't say for the taiko's because I don't play it.
Honestly the only issue I have is that, I think, the breaks in the 4 1/2 star map come too regularly but I love this pack over all.
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Heh, it has been such a long time since I touched this beatmap again :P Besides, there are too few mods coming. When I'm quite free I'll try rechecking and updating the map again!
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