well he did say
peppy wrote:stuffI explained what I meant right below it, and yeah its incredibly obvious that "one can make a map of that same song" but they probably won't because of what I explained prior.
also you said:
peppy wrote:Anyone else is welcome to join or start an effort like thisabout joining, its strictly untrue, but this isn't the thread for that.
well he did say
"Anyone else is welcome to join or start an effort like this and we will give them suport where possible." I'm talking about strictly joining the mappers guild, not everyone is welcome to join it, and it is supported by staff via > giving their own channel in X discord server related to staff, badges for people in it
also its been pretty exclusive about who joins from my and many other "qualified" (via the standards they listed on their first promotion post after going public, lol supported by staff before being public xd) people's experience(s)
however I'm also not very keen on dibs etc for a group of mappers, why not just promote it to everyone? unless that's already the case... dibs is in reference to the albums being released to the Mapper's guild before anyone else can see them for FA, they end up pushing maps for ranked internally(being within the guild) before any other mapper can access the FA music.
Furthermore, the only income osu! receives is from osu!supporter which only goes to the benefit of osu!staff. This means they are profitting off the creation of maps, as well as the efforts of BNs and QATs who push these maps for ranked. This is an issue IF BN's and QAT's are considered part of the staff, but not an issue if BN and QAT are just part of the community and regular users.If I'm not wrong, I think osu!supporter is legally considered a donation and not a purchase, so there would be no legal issues on that part of the matter
If you have a better proposal of how to have some beatmaps ready with FA releases without giving away the releases beforehand (we want to have a bit of surprise/anticipation, right?!) then please bring that up elsewhere. This thread is not for discussing how FA/other groups should work.what is the point in responding to this? it was just explaining how it worked to someone lol.
And if FA won't let you in why not put in the effort to make your own group? Everything starts with effort. We aren't against seeing more interesting mapping teams forming. This used to be a more commonplace thing in the past and it resulted in really creative projects.
we have decided that all members of any osu! team involved in the ranking process (e.g. Beatmap Nominators, Quality Assurance Team, etc)So BN and QAT are part of osu!team or you could say "staff" no? but we want to pretend like all the songs being pushed as official content in osu! that isn't licensed is something osu! doesn't know about?
Yes, TOS has covered this. But there has been little, short of nuking anime episodes, that is done to combat unlicensed material. I'm rather skeptical of "many mappers" asking to use content before uploading maps. Especially when it's mp3s. Backgrounds/wallpapers there's a healthy amount of mappers who try to give credit which is good. But it's the mp3 we're more concerned about. Maps are built around the song, not the background after all. I'm also interested in why we don't have a list of "cleared" tracks then, if there are "many tracks that are cleared for use". I'm also interested why we continue to allow beatmania/konami/etc.. songs to be uploaded and ranked even though these sonds were blanket dmca'ed in the past, but this is probably something we'll want to push with a new Ranking Criteria change.
Monstrata wrote:long postOur terms of service do and always have covered this. Please take responsibility for your own actions. There are many mappers that ask before using content from others. There are many tracks we have cleared for use which aren’t necessarily listed under Featured Artists (you’d be surprised). Saying 99% of content is “unlicenced” (if you’re just looking at FA) may be correct, but I’d argue much more has been acknowledged/approved.
As we tried to make painfully obvious in the original statement, no rules have changed in terms of how we control your uploads (for now; EU rulings may change that). We can’t change rules because we work under existing obligatory laws. Do your own research and decide how you act on this online platform, plese.
> peppy create osu!+1
> peppy added osu!team
> osu!team added community
> "some guy" joined osu!
> "some guy" added "Beatmap Commissions"
peppy: "what the heck, I even only made a profit from donation and selling stickers"
community: "lol wut"
> peppy, osu!team, community left the group