qqqant wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

i think you looked at the wrong map buddy

qqqant owns libtard with facts and logic

I do not like this map regardless of opinion. Why did you select this map?
Many people hate this map.

qqqant wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

i think you looked at the wrong map buddy

I'm not, it's just popular not special or entertaining map imo

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear.

And certainly, when compared to the majority of other charts that get put up for loved, it isn't any less "special or entertaining". I don't think it is a great chart by any means, but it's definitely not this much less "special or entertaining".

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?
Getting popular and getting loved by players are on the other dimension. It can't be "loved" if it's not "loved" by players.

fealen wrote:

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

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[Crz]SuJaK wrote:

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thank you for your contribution to this discussion

Wtf those ''No'' votes XD
I want to see it loved so i vote ''Yes''

won't

[OSC]Amagai wrote:

Wtf those ''No'' votes XD
I want to see it loved so i vote ''Yes''

thank you but its a lost cause

fealen wrote:

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

There's a large amount of popularity with this mapset and it's been played within competitive circles from my experience, and other captains deemed this as a good fit. If this map doesn't fit within your requirements for a chart in Loved, speak up. I cannot stress that enough. When this chart was picked for SOFT3, it received support from the community that took part in that tournament, which easily gave off the impression that a lot of people enjoyed this chart, not the other way around.

If there's any reason to call this chart bland or unoriginal, why not target a mapset we nominated 2 waves ago, which for better or for worse is copypasted jumpstream/handstream patterns for 4 minutes? I understand if you personally might have any issues with the map, and you're free to vote no. What I don't understand is an influx of complaints and surprise when the map actually does go up for voting. You never spoke up and made clear what should be expected from Project Loved. And no, "this map is bland vote no" isn't clear enough.

most users hate map

no

bee

XENiTH wrote:

most users hate map

no

this isn't a common sense issue, posting the exact unclear information i mentioned is detrimental to the progress of this project

what else about "most users" hating this map? all i've understood is a fairly large group of people that have posted out-of-line and frankly immature responses are bandwagoning to get this map out of the category and nothing more. there's no constructive criticism, how do you expect that to help?

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

There's a large amount of popularity with this mapset and it's been played within competitive circles from my experience, and other captains deemed this as a good fit. If this map doesn't fit within your requirements for a chart in Loved, speak up. I cannot stress that enough. When this chart was picked for SOFT3, it received support from the community that took part in that tournament, which easily gave off the impression that a lot of people enjoyed this chart, not the other way around.

If there's any reason to call this chart bland or unoriginal, why not target a mapset we nominated 2 waves ago, which for better or for worse is copypasted jumpstream/handstream patterns for 4 minutes? I understand if you personally might have any issues with the map, and you're free to vote no. What I don't understand is an influx of complaints and surprise when the map actually does go up for voting. You never spoke up and made clear what should be expected from Project Loved. And no, "this map is bland vote no" isn't clear enough.

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to getting huge amount of dislikes even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

fealen wrote:

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

*stares at HISTORIA QUIT BLUVOLTEX*

:MocaThink:

Razzy wrote:

fealen wrote:

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

*stares at HISTORIA QUIT BLUVOLTEX*

:MocaThink:

oh I guess it is lol

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

There's a large amount of popularity with this mapset and it's been played within competitive circles from my experience, and other captains deemed this as a good fit. If this map doesn't fit within your requirements for a chart in Loved, speak up. I cannot stress that enough. When this chart was picked for SOFT3, it received support from the community that took part in that tournament, which easily gave off the impression that a lot of people enjoyed this chart, not the other way around.

If there's any reason to call this chart bland or unoriginal, why not target a mapset we nominated 2 waves ago, which for better or for worse is copypasted jumpstream/handstream patterns for 4 minutes? I understand if you personally might have any issues with the map, and you're free to vote no. What I don't understand is an influx of complaints and surprise when the map actually does go up for voting. You never spoke up and made clear what should be expected from Project Loved. And no, "this map is bland vote no" isn't clear enough.

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

it had 30 yes votes to 6 no votes hours ago, and suddenly got 30 no votes in a span of less than an hour, that isn't "hating a map", that is literally a bombardment by a circlejerk

XENiTH wrote:

most users hate map

no

let me correct that

korean users hate this map*

and as unlikely as it may be, korea is not the center of the world

I'm actually surprised this discussion doesn't goes to the point where now it's just based off from "this chart is bad", "people hate this so let's get other people to vote no" mindset.

Come on, that's just silly at its own right. Even the mapper himself is quite entertained. :joy:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

-snip-

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

Their complaints are definitely more than warranted considering this much No voting is almost unprecedented in Loved (only other time this has happened was likely monkey bussines). Right now I care mostly about the result of this because there's absolutely no way to detect whether a large group of the community is actually going to end up liking a chart or not.

And considering you yourself are saying that this chart isn't fit for Loved, what makes it that way? Is there anything beyond "it's bland"?

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

Seriously y'all should make this one loved? this map is just decent and doesn't even have singular pattern or slight diffrences with other maps.

Of the possible complaints for this chart, unique patterns (if that's what you're trying to say) isn't something I expected to hear

It doesn't fit with the original intention of project loved, if it haven't changed to sort the porpular maps
if it is then why don't we just make meme mapsets loved?

There's a large amount of popularity with this mapset and it's been played within competitive circles from my experience, and other captains deemed this as a good fit. If this map doesn't fit within your requirements for a chart in Loved, speak up. I cannot stress that enough. When this chart was picked for SOFT3, it received support from the community that took part in that tournament, which easily gave off the impression that a lot of people enjoyed this chart, not the other way around.

If there's any reason to call this chart bland or unoriginal, why not target a mapset we nominated 2 waves ago, which for better or for worse is copypasted jumpstream/handstream patterns for 4 minutes? I understand if you personally might have any issues with the map, and you're free to vote no. What I don't understand is an influx of complaints and surprise when the map actually does go up for voting. You never spoke up and made clear what should be expected from Project Loved. And no, "this map is bland vote no" isn't clear enough.

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

it had 30 yes votes to 6 no votes hours ago, and suddenly got 30 no votes in a span of less than an hour, that isn't "hating a map", that is literally a bombardment by a circlejerk

at some communities there can be many people who hates this map, therefore even if someone only post link of this map may cause large amount of dislikes.

I think many people were not interested in Loved vote.
However, when this map came to the vote, many people became interested.
If map was interesting, I think there was no such case.

But I think that it also includes a bad vote.

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAS wrote:

I think many people were not interested in Loved vote.
However, when this map came to the vote, many people became interested.
If map was interesting, I think there was no such case.

But I think that it also includes a bad vote.

So basically your point is: "Hey we don't care about that map so let's leave it alone lol"

And now that GHOST comes up: "Hey we hate that map so everyone else must HATE it so let's fuck the vote over!!! :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage:"

RemFangirl wrote:

I'm actually surprised this discussion doesn't goes to the point where now it's just based off from "this chart is bad", "people hate this so let's get other people to vote no" mindset.

Come on, that's just silly at its own right. Even the mapper himself is quite entertained. :joy:

I was about to sleep, but I can't now after being this entertained

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

-snip-

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

Their complaints are definitely more than warranted considering this much No voting is almost unprecedented in Loved (only other time this has happened was likely monkey bussines). Right now I care mostly about the result of this because there's absolutely no way to detect whether a large group of the community is actually going to end up liking a chart or not.

And considering you yourself are saying that this chart isn't fit for Loved, what makes it that way? Is there anything beyond "it's bland"?

at least IN MY OPINION, shouldn't it needs to be entertaining or unique? wasn't that the main common of the loved charts?

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

-snip-

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

Their complaints are definitely more than warranted considering this much No voting is almost unprecedented in Loved (only other time this has happened was likely monkey bussines). Right now I care mostly about the result of this because there's absolutely no way to detect whether a large group of the community is actually going to end up liking a chart or not.

And considering you yourself are saying that this chart isn't fit for Loved, what makes it that way? Is there anything beyond "it's bland"?

at least IN MY OPINION, shouldn't it needs to be entertaining or unique? wasn't that the main common of the loved charts?

So we can remove half of the charts from loved then? Why haven't other charts which are much less "unique" received this criticism? Pretty convenient that it all occurs on one chart.

Also I'm not saying I like my chart, cause I don't. I'm saying that there's plenty of other charts which would fall under what you are all saying, but you have all ignored.

Kasumii-sama wrote:

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAS wrote:

I think many people were not interested in Loved vote.
However, when this map came to the vote, many people became interested.
If map was interesting, I think there was no such case.

But I think that it also includes a bad vote.

So basically your point is: "Hey we don't care about that map so let's leave it alone lol"

And now that GHOST comes up: "Hey we hate that map so everyone else must HATE it so let's fuck the vote over!!! :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage: :rage:"

I do not force others to comment.
and I apologize to my poor English. :3

I am not telling this map to hate others. T.T

I think there is also a problem that the majority of players are not interested in the player-focused game.

Loved vote has too few votes.
I think this is not even a tenth of the number of osu mania players.
There are votes that do not exceed 100 in total.

I think I have become a better Loved project.

Gekido- wrote:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

-snip-

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

Their complaints are definitely more than warranted considering this much No voting is almost unprecedented in Loved (only other time this has happened was likely monkey bussines). Right now I care mostly about the result of this because there's absolutely no way to detect whether a large group of the community is actually going to end up liking a chart or not.

And considering you yourself are saying that this chart isn't fit for Loved, what makes it that way? Is there anything beyond "it's bland"?

at least IN MY OPINION, shouldn't it needs to be entertaining or unique? wasn't that the main common of the loved charts?

So we can remove half of the charts from loved then? Why haven't other charts which are much less "unique" received this criticism? Pretty convenient that it all occurs on one chart.

Also I'm not saying I like my chart, cause I don't. I'm saying that there's plenty of other charts which would fall under what you are all saying, but you have all ignored.

Including "Entertaining", I said. It can be very subject problems, but it isn't if a large group of players don't think it is.

And, In my opinion. others may disagree it but that's the main perspective about the project loved to me.

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

fealen wrote:

stupud man wrote:

-snip-

I'm not complaining about it because it doesn't fit for loved, I'm complaining about it because they're complaining to make this map loved even though it's actually hated and getting many No votes.
if it's just bad and they didn't complained about the large amount of No votes then I won't even comment on this post besides just giving No vote.
And yes, that mapset is actually even worse for the loved, but I couldn't checked map because of the inactivity.

Their complaints are definitely more than warranted considering this much No voting is almost unprecedented in Loved (only other time this has happened was likely monkey bussines). Right now I care mostly about the result of this because there's absolutely no way to detect whether a large group of the community is actually going to end up liking a chart or not.

And considering you yourself are saying that this chart isn't fit for Loved, what makes it that way? Is there anything beyond "it's bland"?

at least IN MY OPINION, shouldn't it needs to be entertaining or unique? wasn't that the main common of the loved charts?

Yeah, and this chart qualified as entertaining and unique for the reasons I listed above. It's not an uneducated assumption. If it's your opinion that's fine, it's just highly unexpected that this many people would have this kind of response. For that reason I don't really see any room for complaints beyond that.

no

Why won't you come to loved server then, to discuss openly your preferences about charts?

GHOST is objectively much more interesting than charts being loved earlier, and you didn't oppose. You don't seem to hate other charts that could be called much more questionable. We can't have insight from every community, so please speak up so we can avoid misconceptions and misunderstandings about what are the opinions on certain charts and what to love.

What a bunch of sheeps, putting no because someone told them to.

Interesting that only koreans are against it as far as I can see

Nixo wrote:

What a bunch of sheeps, putting no because someone told them to.

Try not to sound offensive please.

hi there. besides this map, i want to ask something about loved to you guys besides this map since lots of ppl paying attention on this forum. what's the genuine purpose of the 'project loved'? i thought it makes ppl able to see ranking of the maps that do not satisfy the criteria to be a ranked map, and especially, popular and 'meme'd maps. in other words, the maps that make people enthusiastic, and 'being loved' by people. for an example, 'a fool moon night' is very popular and some players' memes either (like 70kps of jhlee) and lots of top players have tried to beat his score, and even some player did. why? because it isn't a loved map and neither a ranked map.

so what i want to talk about mainly is, i think 'project loved' has to consider the maps that really 'being loved' by users. see the ratio of this vote. do they want this map loved? i think they not. then why? i think this have to be re-considered by the mapper of this map. i just feel like 'project loved' is being managed not for people, but for some mappers and the minority of users. think on the players' position.

tbh, i also voted on no. why? i don't like this map. some people would say like 'yea that's cuz u are a poor noob' and yes i'm a poor noob. but regardless of the skill level, every player has permission on voting and they just voted because just 'they don't like the map' or 'they don't agree this map goes to loved'. i think you guys have to respect the right of users to express their feelings on the map.

some people say like 'there are more worse maps on loved. then why did you show no responce on those maps?' i think this is not important. there would be people thinks 'those things would be fine, but not this one.' or 'i didn't have any interest in 'project loved' but by chance i saw this map and i don't like it.' do they have to take the responsibility on this scene of the quarrel? i think they don't have to.

i didn't capitalized since it bothers. read or not it's your business, just wrote since i'm feeling uneasy on 'project loved'. i wish you guys good luck ruining this game. lmao

can we love "Ti7 - Love Maker" plz and thx

Cheong wrote:

i didn't capitalized since it bothers. read or not it's your business, just wrote since i'm feeling uneasy on 'project loved'. i wish you guys good luck ruining this game. lmao

don't expect anyone to respond to you kindly if you shame them so openly about it. for reference, here are your objections i've picked out in particular:

1. loved should consider the reception of the community, and asking for quote-unquote "fairness" to be applied in this situation is unreasonable
2. anyone is and ought to be allowed to vote, and we should not discriminate against their opinions based on face-value attributes such as skill level
3. people are and ought to be allowed to vote whenever they want, and on whatever they want

looking at it now, some of these claims do seem a bit dubious since this very map and thread effectively demonstrates points 1 (pretty sure the vote seeks to represent the interests of the community as a whole, though one may rightly argue that the measurement tool used in this situation isn't as adequate at assessing overall community interest [think vote brigading!]) and 3 (who's stopping anyone from clicking the no button and confirming their choice - or rather, clicking on any no button and confirming their choice? a few harshly worded comments on a screen? come on we're not 12).

i think what you should be looking more at would be points 1 and 2, since it appears to be what's relevant in this case (i.e., ill-represented voting & apparent brigading).

and if it's isn't clear by now, i don't really have a strong opinion a way or the other, i just think the catastrophizing in this thread and in your post is silly.
be kind to others - failing that, bring evidence.

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