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Gojou Kai - Ultimate Truth [Osu|Taiko]

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DarkDunskin
1,875 posts
Joined April 2009
DarkDunskin
Taiko Mod request by p2n! (trolololo)

[Wmf's Taiko]
  1. 00:09:400 (40) - Add Finish.
  2. 00:18:653 (93,94) - Delete (93), add Finish on (94).
  3. 00:37:322 (227,228,229) - Delete (227,228), add Finish on (229). Makes everything easier to get and keeps consistent with the Finish pattern hurray!
  4. 00:54:167 (280) - Remove Finish doesn't fit here.
  5. 01:16:572 (409,410,411,412,413,414,415) - I'd suggest you to change this to: 1/6 (kkkk) 1/4 D
  6. 01:49:576 (645,646) - Add Finish on (645), delete (646).
  7. 01:52:826 (665,666,667) - Delete (665,666), add Finish on (667). That would make me happy~
Just cosmetical Issues, ignore if you disagree.
Though I'd like very much to see these long 1/6 streams disappear.

I'm so glad to play such a high-quality Taiko again after modding so many nonsense T-T
Very well!!!
p3n
Global Moderator
947 posts
Joined June 2009
p3n
[Mancuso's Easy]
oh you~
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378
(the w-sliders look suspicous...but I'll let it slip this time ;) )



[Normal]
OD-1 and AR+1 seem to be more appropriate here. The higher AR also keeps some break combos from displaying into the previous ones making it less irritating for less experienced players.

I don't know why you have problems with keeping a 1,00x spacing with a maximum variance of 0,1x that goes down to 0,90x as you need this for some patterns. There are some places where the spacing is visibly different and that will confuse many players (difference from 1,14x to 0,80x is just way too big). Took me about 15min to place the same symmetry patterns with 1,00x spacing in the whole map so you could've done the same I guess...

00:20:309 (1,2,3,4,1) - you don't have to sacrifice symmetry here. It is no problem to keep the 1,00x spacing up with the pattern you used, just rearrange the red combo and Ctrl+G on 00:21:868 (1) - : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556299
00:23:426 (1,2,3,4,1) - same goes for this combo, just place the same pattern in 1,00x
00:28:101 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same, just place it in 1,00x and copypasta-horizontal-flipz0r it around a bit~ http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556325
...the list goes on...that is why I contacted you on IRC. I'll check what you kept and what not. As long as the spread is not too big in a short time (read: noticable while playing) it should be fine.

00:34:140 (4) - add whistle to make the triplet audible
00:35:699 (4) - ^same
00:35:699 (4) - ^
00:37:257 (7) - ^
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378
01:10:117 (1,2) - this is not a very good object choice for this difficulty. I recommend changing it to one repeat slider to match the difficulty of this map (also keeps the spacing in line): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556332
02:09:451 (1) - spinner ending is unsnapped



[Lunatic]
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378
00:43:534 (3,1,2) - start this NC on (2), right now the combo would indicate something like a hold or jump when the stack is a connection of 1/2 notes instead (very confusing).
00:52:838 (1,2) - ^same
01:01:952 (1,2) - ^same
01:15:623 (2) - add a whistle here. It is not in the song but if you intend to map the triplet this way it should be audible in some way or else it wont make much sense for most players.
01:29:513 (6) - don't stack this. It completely kills the flow of the jump patterns you established before. I suggest something like this because it just plays so much better (the transition into the next combo/phrase with the 2+ jump after this works great): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556368
01:34:576 (3) - missed whistle on ending



[Hard]
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378

looking good~



Suggestions on hitsounds for 'Hard' and 'Lunatic'
Try them and see if you like it - they affect playability of the map that is why I point them out here. They are a quality issue for me but if you don't like them you can skip them. The timings are for Lunatic. If you check the 1/2 notes of 'Hard' you can apply them as well.

01:21:076 (2) - add whistle to ending (even if it is not in the song) to make a nice transition into the next phrase?
01:25:763 (4) - ^
01:30:076 (2) - ^
01:39:076 (4) - ^
01:43:576 (3) - ^
02:01:576 (3) - add whistle to ending
02:06:076 (3) - ^

Lunatic only:
02:00:451 (3,4,5,6) - add all whistles to make the stream audible
02:04:951 (3,4,5,6) - ^





I had Dunskin check the Taiko again because I couldn't find anything. Have a star in the meantime and lets see if we can get this done ;)
DaxMasterix
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
1,562 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
DaxMasterix

p3n wrote:

[Mancuso's Easy]
oh you~
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378
(the w-sliders look suspicous...but I'll let it slip this time ;) )



[Normal]
OD-1 and AR+1 seem to be more appropriate here. The higher AR also keeps some break combos from displaying into the previous ones making it less irritating for less experienced players. Changed.

I don't know why you have problems with keeping a 1,00x spacing with a maximum variance of 0,1x that goes down to 0,90x as you need this for some patterns. There are some places where the spacing is visibly different and that will confuse many players (difference from 1,14x to 0,80x is just way too big). Took me about 15min to place the same symmetry patterns with 1,00x spacing in the whole map so you could've done the same I guess... .w. I have problems with The Distances .w.

00:20:309 (1,2,3,4,1) - you don't have to sacrifice symmetry here. It is no problem to keep the 1,00x spacing up with the pattern you used, just rearrange the red combo and Ctrl+G on 00:21:868 (1) - : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556299 Yep.. Changed.
00:23:426 (1,2,3,4,1) - same goes for this combo, just place the same pattern in 1,00x (^)
00:28:101 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same, just place it in 1,00x and copypasta-horizontal-flipz0r it around a bit~ http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556325
...the list goes on...that is why I contacted you on IRC. I'll check what you kept and what not. As long as the spread is not too big in a short time (read: noticable while playing) it should be fine. kk .w.

00:34:140 (4) - add whistle to make the triplet audible
00:35:699 (4) - ^same
00:35:699 (4) - ^
00:37:257 (7) - ^ Hitsounds Added.
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378 I can't exactly to that second.. But I can move it.. so Moved.
01:10:117 (1,2) - this is not a very good object choice for this difficulty. I recommend changing it to one repeat slider to match the difficulty of this map (also keeps the spacing in line): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556332 Changed.
02:09:451 (1) - spinner ending is unsnapped Dude'.. The song is Cutted.. The original song is Cutted.. I can't fix it.. So.. the end of this Slider is in 1/8 of the end.. I can't fix it..



[Lunatic]
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378 Moved.
00:43:534 (3,1,2) - start this NC on (2), right now the combo would indicate something like a hold or jump when the stack is a connection of 1/2 notes instead (very confusing).
00:52:838 (1,2) - ^same
01:01:952 (1,2) - ^same (^) All Added
01:15:623 (2) - add a whistle here. It is not in the song but if you intend to map the triplet this way it should be audible in some way or else it wont make much sense for most players. Added.
01:29:513 (6) - don't stack this. It completely kills the flow of the jump patterns you established before. I suggest something like this because it just plays so much better (the transition into the next combo/phrase with the 2+ jump after this works great): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556368 Fixed.
01:34:576 (3) - missed whistle on ending Oh.. Added.



[Hard]
00:39:351 - drag the break ending to this point to match the new offset early: go into the new timing use 1/8 snapping and drag the break ending http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/556378 I don't know why I can move the Break to this point.. And in the diff of Normal I can't.. HUH Moved.

looking good~



Suggestions on hitsounds for 'Hard' and 'Lunatic'
Try them and see if you like it - they affect playability of the map that is why I point them out here. They are a quality issue for me but if you don't like them you can skip them. The timings are for Lunatic. If you check the 1/2 notes of 'Hard' you can apply them as well.

01:21:076 (2) - add whistle to ending (even if it is not in the song) to make a nice transition into the next phrase?
01:25:763 (4) - ^
01:30:076 (2) - ^
01:39:076 (4) - ^
01:43:576 (3) - ^
02:01:576 (3) - add whistle to ending
02:06:076 (3) - ^ all Hitsounds Added.

Lunatic only:
02:00:451 (3,4,5,6) - add all whistles to make the stream audible No thanks o3o
02:04:951 (3,4,5,6) - ^ (^)





I had Dunskin check the Taiko again because I couldn't find anything. Have a star in the meantime and lets see if we can get this done ;) omgomgomgomgomg OMG Well.. xD Thanks for that

Okay! Thanks for the mod.. =w= Only waiting wmfChris =w=)b But....

Dude'

In the Diffs [Normal] & [Easy] I can't move the Break Ending to 00:39:351 ... In Easy only until 00:39:059 and in Normal only until 00:39:303 ... Maybe is for the AR.. So.. I need help with this..you're bat.. Maybe you know what happend here.. xD
Thanks for the mod! >w<
VERYVERYVERVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERYVERVERYVERYVERYVERVERY APRRECIATED ;_;
p3n
Global Moderator
947 posts
Joined June 2009
p3n
Moving the break in easy and normal is not possible because of the AR but that is no real problem imo. The unsnapped spinner was not snapped to any beatsnap divisor (the 1/8 snapping of all the other spinners is fine - and now the last one is also snapped correctly).

Spacing in normal is much better now.

Only waiting for an answer from wmfchris now...
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris

DarkDunskin wrote:

Taiko Mod request by p2n! (trolololo)

[Wmf's Taiko]
  1. 00:09:400 (40) - Add Finish.
  2. 00:18:653 (93,94) - Delete (93), add Finish on (94). I used to ride pattern consideration over finishing. It's a good suggestion and if I could place finish over 1/4 this is absolutely a suitable position for it.
  3. 00:37:322 (227,228,229) - Delete (227,228), add Finish on (229). Makes everything easier to get and keeps consistent with the Finish pattern hurray! ^
  4. 00:54:167 (280) - Remove Finish doesn't fit here.
  5. 01:16:572 (409,410,411,412,413,414,415) - I'd suggest you to change this to: 1/6 (kkkk) 1/4 D I listened to the music again it sounds like 1/6 xxx x x so I changed to <- and added finish.
  6. 01:49:576 (645,646) - Add Finish on (645), delete (646).
  7. 01:52:826 (665,666,667) - Delete (665,666), add Finish on (667). That would make me happy~
Just cosmetical Issues, ignore if you disagree.
Though I'd like very much to see these long 1/6 streams disappear.

I'm so glad to play such a high-quality Taiko again after modding so many nonsense T-T
Very well!!!

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DaxMasterix
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DaxMasterix
Okay! Updated! We are ready now =w=)b
p3n
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p3n
Last few changes I missed in my first post (my bad):


[Hard]
00:52:647 (6) - better start the NC here to indicate the 1/2 distance to the following slider instead of having the same combo over the 1/1 break with the 1/2 note being the start of the new combo
01:01:762 (6) - ^same here
01:10:117 (1) - remove NC here because this whole part feels like it is meant to be one (for the build up and it fits the combo setting in Lunatic - normal/easy being an exception to increase readability for less experienced players)



no kd for this
DaxMasterix
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DaxMasterix

p3n wrote:

Last few changes I missed in my first post (my bad):


[Hard]
00:52:647 (6) - better start the NC here to indicate the 1/2 distance to the following slider instead of having the same combo over the 1/1 break with the 1/2 note being the start of the new combo
01:01:762 (6) - ^same here
01:10:117 (1) - remove NC here because this whole part feels like it is meant to be one (for the build up and it fits the combo setting in Lunatic - normal/easy being an exception to increase readability for less experienced players)



no kd for this
All fixed.. adasdas =w=)b And I think you forgot 00:43:534 (6) ... So fixed too~
p3n
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(v°_°)>
Pereira006
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Pereira006
Heeeey !!!! :)

Congratz !!!! PRO DAX !!!
Cloudchaser
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Cloudchaser
Gratz! bonito mapa *3*
apjfkapso
Deif
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Deif
Ya tardabas mucho en rankear esto <3
YTYuyu
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YTYuyu
yay look at that it got ranked \o/.

congratz on the rank ;)
Verdisphena
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Verdisphena
wena :3/
Satellite
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Satellite
congratz~~~
Aurele
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Aurele
oh, i thought it was already ranked..

Congratulation then! :D
DaxMasterix
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omg Thanks to all ;-;.. Specially to wmfchris, mancusojuanmattos, byakugan, p3n, and all who modded this ^^)/ Thanks for the support >w< <3
Heatherfield
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Heatherfield
If really remapping in Honor of Al-Azif's, why rank?
Pereira006
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Heatherfield wrote:

If really remapping in Honor of Al-Azif's, why rank?
Version mapper is different the Al-azif's mapper.
Any version mapper can remap this song, just don't try 100% copy.

anyway this map still great
mancuso_JM_
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mancuso_JM_
Finally Ranked!!
Congratulations!! :D
Nyan-Zapo
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Nyan-Zapo
gratz dax to ranked :3
TeruTeru
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TeruTeru
(人-∀-)｡o.ﾟ｡*･★Congratulations on rank!!!★･*｡ﾟo｡(-∀-人)
❤❤❤
LunarSakuya
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LunarSakuya
hey finally congrats!! :D
Mercurial
Mercurial
Finalmente se te dió, felicitaciones.
tsuka
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tsuka
the map itself not bad , but it's far away compared to Al's one

whatever rhythm , graph or hitsounds

pls stop to remapping the map of the gojou kai's unless you get the enough mapping skill

it's a best way in Honor of them
MMzz
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MMzz
[Taiko]
01:16:572 (408,409,410,411,412) - uhhhh? care to explain why this is unsnapped? It's not on the song's beat at all.
This needs to be fixed.
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