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Capone3830
5 posts
Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
Capone3830
Basically I've been playing osu for quite a while now and it just seems as if I'm not improving anymore, yet there seem to be other players that are about three times as good as I am, which is from my point of view, impossible, looking at the limits of human reaction time, general cognition skills and finger speed.

And I'm not even talking about all those top ~100 players, but in general those you find quite a lot of in multiplayer, those that play insane maps on double time which you cant even finish. Generally, I see three possibilities.

A: I am terribly bad at this game
B: They practice around 500 times more than I do
C: Theres something within the settings/controllers that gives an ENOURMOUS advantage.

Regarding C, I'm using keyboard + mouse, 1920x1080 fullscreen, 1,1 mose sensitivity on a normal retail mouse and generally use 2 fingers for streams and one for normal beats.

So, if you have any idea what it could be, Please do tell :o
Lance
626 posts
Joined August 2010
Lance
There are a few little things you can do like disabling enhanced pointer precision or removing mouse acceleration within registry, but really what it comes down to in the end (at least that I have found) is practice and having naturally quick reflexes. I do not have the latter so I just practice a lot.
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa
You're either good from the very beginning or you just practice more than others. No way around it.

That's how you get good at this game.
Zelmarked
407 posts
Joined September 2011
Zelmarked
Get used to using 2 fingers for everything. Not using your off finger makes it the weak link for streams.

I play 1080p as well. A lot play with 800 x 600. I cannot personally confirm this is better. I haven't set aside time to test it.

Disable video if you haven't already. Eyes are attracted to motion and if your eyes are devoting any attention to the BG, they aren't giving enough to the notes.

Edit: And practice. I get noticeably better at this game every weekend I get to play.
Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut
Practice.
And also know your limit.
Boom
267 posts
Joined September 2011
Boom
You need to practice,practice and practice.
And use No Video if it make you confused about video and note.
Pizzicato
2,739 posts
Joined February 2011
Pizzicato


do you have that box checked on ur mouse settings
darkmiz
407 posts
Joined August 2011
darkmiz
The pros who play insane double time can read Approach Rate 10 with ease.

Train your reflexes by playing Hard Rock on hard difficulty maps (mostly AR 7 or 8) or go to the editor and adjust Approach Rate manually.

Hard rock also trains your mouse precision.

But reflexes is not enough for double time, you need finger speed.

Train a lot of stream maps, such as those in the stream compilation.

Equipment is not everything, look at the Catch the Beat pros. They play the same way as everybody, and they improve only with practice.
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers

ragelewa wrote:

You're either good from the very beginning or you just practice more than others. No way around it.

That's how you get good at this game.
or both
dNextGen
dNextGen
just play,and find the most comfortable hand position while playing

i played much better after changing my reso from 1366x768 to 1024x768 though
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa

kriers wrote:

ragelewa wrote:

You're either good from the very beginning or you just practice more than others. No way around it.

That's how you get good at this game.
or both
blasphemy
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers

ragelewa wrote:

blasphemy
Where can I go to confess my sins? :(
Kodoshi
81 posts
Joined May 2010
Kodoshi
it's the sad truth, if you're born with no skill at all like me all you can do is trying and practice a lot, the only natural talent i've got is being lazy, if you're the same then you're screwed
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

kriers wrote:

ragelewa wrote:

blasphemy
Where can I go to confess my sins? :(
Here; you can teach me how to be pro like you
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
You don't even have 10.000 plays, and:



How do you even expect to be decent? Quit playing stupid low difficulties go play the real deal, you won't be good at all if all you do is play normal/hards. With 1000 plays you should be able to play Insanes, you have over 9000 and seem to be playing just low diffs.
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thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa

Kodoshi wrote:

it's the sad truth, if you're born with no skill at all like me all you can do is trying and practice a lot, the only natural talent i've got is being lazy, if you're the same then you're screwed
My natural talent is procrastination, I'll play osu! when I'm supposed to do something else.
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers
introducing a 4th possibilty aka D :They practice way more efficient than you. Good point, Wishy ;p
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eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl

Wishy22 wrote:

You don't even have 10.000 plays, and:



How do you even expect to be decent? Quit playing stupid low difficulties go play the real deal, you won't be good at all if all you do is play normal/hards. With 1000 plays you should be able to play Insanes and you skill have over 9000 and seem to be playing just low diffs.
^this, and also there are a lot of things that can be, for example, your mouse, buuy a tablet because it makes the game easier a lot (at least to me, because my mouse sucks)
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan

Kodoshi wrote:

it's the sad truth, if you're born with no skill at all like me all you can do is trying and practice a lot, the only natural talent i've got is being lazy, if you're the same then you're screwed
+1 .-.
Royboyvdm
Royboyvdm

eldnl wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

You don't even have 10.000 plays, and:



How do you even expect to be decent? Quit playing stupid low difficulties go play the real deal, you won't be good at all if all you do is play normal/hards. With 1000 plays you should be able to play Insanes and you skill have over 9000 and seem to be playing just low diffs.
^this, and also there are a lot of things that can be, for example, your mouse, buuy a tablet because it makes the game easier a lot (at least to me, because my mouse sucks)
fucking tablet surface hurts hand which makes me shake :lol:
Cho_old
Cho_old

eldnl wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

You don't even have 10.000 plays, and:



How do you even expect to be decent? Quit playing stupid low difficulties go play the real deal, you won't be good at all if all you do is play normal/hards. With 1000 plays you should be able to play Insanes and you skill have over 9000 and seem to be playing just low diffs.
^this, and also there are a lot of things that can be, for example, your mouse, buuy a tablet because it makes the game easier a lot (at least to me, because my mouse sucks)

Don't actually bother improving, just keep playing with a mouse and tell everyone you know who uses a tablet that you're better than them beceause your device is harder to use.

In all seriousness, for someone who supposedly cares about how good they do you play alot of easy difficulties, if you actually want to do [Insane] +DT playing [Normal] all the time is one of the worst ways I can think of to practice for it.
A8mew
74 posts
Joined February 2010
A8mew
>Select Insane Difficulty
>Press "Replay" until fingers stop moving or you clear the map

Not a very efficient way to improve but its at least not made me personally any worse.
Waryas
Waryas
I'm one of those people with no talent, just play for fun and that's it
it's just a game
Sonez_old
Sonez_old
Your mouse sensitivity is a little low for 1920x1080 imo. I would try around 1.5 at least.

Try using both fingers at all times, Single tapping is only better when you're doing a slow stream.

Play more insane maps, find a good list of songs you like to play and practice them ALOT.

Find a good skin, One with 300's off helps a lot. I recommend LEET skin.
Espionage724
876 posts
Joined August 2011
Espionage724

shanaftw wrote:

Find a good skin, One with 300's off helps a lot. I recommend LEET skin.
I hear this a lot, but I have yet to try it. I think I'll finally try this :p
Soly
343 posts
Joined June 2011
Soly
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Liut
777 posts
Joined June 2011
Liut

Waryas wrote:

I'm one of those people with no talent, just play for fun and that's it
it's just a game
+1
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers

Soly wrote:

It looks hard now but in a year you'll look back and laugh at how easy it is. Your brain will over-time eventually change the way your eyes perceive approach circles and hit circles, making them appear much much slower. At least for me anyway, the more I train the slower everything gets.
Yes it gets much slower after a while, which is why at some point I got really bad at reading lower approach rates. Even ar8 felt too clustered. :o

Now however, everything feels so much faster, but at the same time comfortable enough to read. It's a strange sensation.
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
There are 2 choices. You can say be saying you're bad, or you can be doing something about it. The rest is just time. ;)
Drafura
osu! Alumni
2,621 posts
Joined April 2010
Drafura
I think this guy isn't reading any of the answers... I mean, he never posted back.........
Big Yikes
56 posts
Joined April 2011
Big Yikes

Drafura wrote:

I think this guy isn't reading any of the answers... I mean, he never posted back.........
He might be a forum newbie, when I was one (kinda still am) I often forgot about my posts.
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Still making a post asking for tips about how to get better, and forgetting to check out the answers you got, lol you're not a forum newbie you're stupid. xd

Or you don't really care about what you asked.
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