Why classical music isnt mapped in Osu!? i would love to play Rondo Alla Turca (not a remix), marathon from Beethoven: 9th Simphony or maybe Kovacevich mvt. 4
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Typically these would be harder to do, considering the different time signatures, variable tempo or dramatic increase/decrease in tempo for certain sections. Plus, with human error, live classical performances are just generally hard to map correctly and on-time.
Plus, the playerbase is generally more into electronic genres from Glitch Hop, Future Bass, and Liquid Drum'n'Bass, to genres like Neurofunk, Breakcore, and even Speedcore, so it's more likely those genres will be pushed more often than others.
That's why things like Classical, Jazz, or Hip-hop/Rap are relatively scarce, for the previously mentioned applicable reasons.
That's about it from what I can see.
Plus, the playerbase is generally more into electronic genres from Glitch Hop, Future Bass, and Liquid Drum'n'Bass, to genres like Neurofunk, Breakcore, and even Speedcore, so it's more likely those genres will be pushed more often than others.
That's why things like Classical, Jazz, or Hip-hop/Rap are relatively scarce, for the previously mentioned applicable reasons.
That's about it from what I can see.
I'd really love to see a "Dies Irae" by Giuseppe Verdi 8* map tbh
Yea, those reasons are exactly why electronic genres and quantized pop/rock music are so abundant on osu. I've ever tried to map the awesome second movement of Shostakovich' 8th string quartet played by the Kronos Quartet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OS1-yf88rs)). Despite it's extremely rhythmical nature, it is such a mess to time well! I've tried to create a simple osu!mania map but the speed changes are too unpredictable and weird.Achromalia wrote:
Typically these would be harder to do, considering the different time signatures, variable tempo or dramatic increase/decrease in tempo for certain sections. Plus, with human error, live classical performances are just generally hard to map correctly and on-time.
I'm not a great mapper nor a good player, but I cannot believe such a thing would be qualified even with superb mapping.Lubo wrote:
Why classical music isnt mapped in Osu!? i would love to play Rondo Alla Turca (not a remix), marathon from Beethoven: 9th Simphony or maybe Kovacevich mvt. 4
Most classical motifs don't emphasise "flow" as much as pop motifs.
I tried mapping Introduction and Rondo Capriccioso a while back and the only probable way of timing a really complex classical song is basing of synthesia videos or having a metronome and some decent headphones and a lot of time.
Map-https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/941505#osu/1966073
Map-https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/941505#osu/1966073
Oh boy something I have some knowledge in!
Tried finding classical music osu maps a few months back, disappointing to find out there aren't much due to reasons mentioned above. However, I know ALOT of "classical music" that isn't from the romantic era.
There are fiery pieces that can very well fit into percussion-like games such as osu! So much so that people have made metal cover versions of it!
Some pieces that come to mind are:
Shostakovich's String Quartet no. 8 mvt. 2 Metal Version Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8NJGezMicI
Tchaikovsky's "Little Russian" Symphony no. 2 mvt 3. https://youtu.be/rxyN1GHMatM?t=1238
Guitanerias from the Andalucia Suite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpeZOCg3TA
[i]Igor Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring"[i] https://youtu.be/rP42C-4zL3w?t=208
And last but not least, and probably one of the more "fiery" ones here in my opinion, Alfred Schnittke's Concerto Grosso no.1! https://youtu.be/yaaRk0c-780
NOTE: SKIP MOVEMENTS 1, 3, the first half of 4, and 6.
I have aloooooooot more music recommendations if anyone wants to hear my ramble on about this kinda stuff or dm me or smth, but I really urge people to take a listen and consider these!
also someone make a beatmap of Epidermis from Venetian Snares pls
Tried finding classical music osu maps a few months back, disappointing to find out there aren't much due to reasons mentioned above. However, I know ALOT of "classical music" that isn't from the romantic era.
There are fiery pieces that can very well fit into percussion-like games such as osu! So much so that people have made metal cover versions of it!
Some pieces that come to mind are:
Shostakovich's String Quartet no. 8 mvt. 2 Metal Version Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8NJGezMicI
Tchaikovsky's "Little Russian" Symphony no. 2 mvt 3. https://youtu.be/rxyN1GHMatM?t=1238
Guitanerias from the Andalucia Suite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpeZOCg3TA
[i]Igor Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring"[i] https://youtu.be/rP42C-4zL3w?t=208
And last but not least, and probably one of the more "fiery" ones here in my opinion, Alfred Schnittke's Concerto Grosso no.1! https://youtu.be/yaaRk0c-780
NOTE: SKIP MOVEMENTS 1, 3, the first half of 4, and 6.
I have aloooooooot more music recommendations if anyone wants to hear my ramble on about this kinda stuff or dm me or smth, but I really urge people to take a listen and consider these!
also someone make a beatmap of Epidermis from Venetian Snares pls
I'd really love to see more classical music beatmaps here in osu! It's true that most of them are either long or have unusual tempos, but there are some pieces that deserve to be mapped.
Something like Vivaldi's Spring from Four Seasons.
Something like Vivaldi's Spring from Four Seasons.
Pieces I want Beatmapped:
Iannis Xenakis - ST/4, 1-080262
Arnold Schoenberg - Suite for Piano
Alban Berg - Violin Concerto
Stockhausen - Helicopter String Quartet
Messaien - Quartet for the End of Time
Anton Webern - Drei Lieder
Gyogy Ligeti - Piano Etudes(all of them)
Toru Takemitsu - Nostalgia
Brian Ferneyhough - No Time at All
John Cage - 4'33"
Please, get on this.
Iannis Xenakis - ST/4, 1-080262
Arnold Schoenberg - Suite for Piano
Alban Berg - Violin Concerto
Stockhausen - Helicopter String Quartet
Messaien - Quartet for the End of Time
Anton Webern - Drei Lieder
Gyogy Ligeti - Piano Etudes(all of them)
Toru Takemitsu - Nostalgia
Brian Ferneyhough - No Time at All
John Cage - 4'33"
Please, get on this.
Quite the ambigious (wording in your) statement, the straightforward obvious way of interpretation being something I don't really agree with. But I guess this ain' the place for that discussion so whatevs.imm0rt47 wrote:
Most classical motifs don't emphasise "flow" as much as pop motifs.
For the actual thing:
Your question has surely been answered already, but just
That being said, there are some classical songs with actual performances mapped (and ranked) in case you've missed 'em though, for example
3rd movement from Moonlight Sonata
Prelude from Bach's Suite 1
and multiple more (a bit older too) maps I can't remember right now. And then likely some more I don't even know about. But indeed it's a small minority for sure.
I'm working on Violin Concerto Op. 47 by Sibelius myself but I'll prob die before I manage to finish it lul
Here is a thought, map a version of the piece that is played by a computer (like in those videos where the program plays along with the score).
Of course now you lose a big portion of what makes a classical performance stand out but it would make the tempo very consistent and easier to map.
Of course now you lose a big portion of what makes a classical performance stand out but it would make the tempo very consistent and easier to map.
i've tried several times but trying to find an offset for like hundreds of string instruments playing at once recorded in the forties is literal hell on earth.
i attempted to time waltz of the flowers like 8 or 9 times and many pieces by jo hisaishi prior to that.
it sucks because i genuinely dont know of any way to better the timing system the editor has, but i feel like its capabilities fall short when it comes to music that hasnt been quantized. :/
i think louis cyphre did this a couple times; mapping like 8 bit covers of piano songs and received a lot of hate for it. afaik people found the covers to be lifeless and boring to play/listen to.
i attempted to time waltz of the flowers like 8 or 9 times and many pieces by jo hisaishi prior to that.
it sucks because i genuinely dont know of any way to better the timing system the editor has, but i feel like its capabilities fall short when it comes to music that hasnt been quantized. :/
TheArcMageYT wrote:
Here is a thought, map a version of the piece that is played by a computer (like in those videos where the program plays along with the score).
i think louis cyphre did this a couple times; mapping like 8 bit covers of piano songs and received a lot of hate for it. afaik people found the covers to be lifeless and boring to play/listen to.
Didn't know he received hate from those but then again not like it's the most surprising thing in the world. Personally liked that he at least brought some classical pieces up, even though comparing them to the originals is indeed straight blasphemy >:)Veridian wrote:
i think louis cyphre did this a couple times; mapping like 8 bit covers of piano songs and received a lot of hate for it. afaik people found the covers to be lifeless and boring to play/listen to.TheArcMageYT wrote:
Here is a thought, map a version of the piece that is played by a computer (like in those videos where the program plays along with the score).
Today I've learnt that classical music has fans.
I actually never knew that.
I actually never knew that.
... I guess you're actually serious but hopefully not >.<Carmlillball wrote:
Today I've learnt that classical music has fans.
I actually never knew that.
better late than never I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
okay but memes aside out of music types classical music has one of the higher overall qualities genre-wise due the fact that most of the "big" classical music pieces that go around overall and not just in the connoisseur groups have already stood the test of long times, meaning they have been deemed great. A feat that I'd wager won't happen with vast majority of the more modern and nowadays music that is still alive at the moment, be it's age couple decades or few months[Arc] wrote:
Insert “classical music is superior” sentiment here
I think its fair to call classical music among the most complex in terms of how much theory and practice over the centuries has gone into developing it, these days I think people misunderstand it due to lack of knowledge/experience of it. Its kinda like fine wines in a sense.
- EdgarNitroX
There is lots of classical music in osu!, of course a lot of it is in electronic/remixed form because orchestra music doesn't tend to have a consistent BPM, which is needed in osu!
Flight of the Bumblebee would be insane!
B1rd wrote:
There is lots of classical music in osu!, of course a lot of it is in electronic/remixed form because orchestra music doesn't tend to have a consistent BPM, which is needed in osu!
>classical music in remixed\electronic form
This sounds like division by zero.
The essence of the music is that same, even if it isn't played by an orchestra.SunriseAbsence wrote:
B1rd wrote:
There is lots of classical music in osu!, of course a lot of it is in electronic/remixed form because orchestra music doesn't tend to have a consistent BPM, which is needed in osu!
>classical music in remixed\electronic form
This sounds like division by zero.