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crabovan
Hello again :D I found a few more bugs (sorry for my slowpoking)

Firebird

00:42:876 (4) - why it have 2 white points? http://puu.sh/s4Fn
00:58:776 (1,2,3,4,5) - it`s a little crooked (before http://puu.sh/s4EZ , after http://puu.sh/s4Ff )
01:17:976 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4FP , after http://puu.sh/s4G7 )
01:20:076 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4GU ,after http://puu.sh/s4GN )
01:33:576 (1,2,3) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4He , after http://puu.sh/s4HB )
01:34:176 (4,5,6) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4HF , after http://puu.sh/s4I7 )
01:34:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4Ih , after http://puu.sh/s4IP )

Phoenix

00:30:876 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - - it`s a little crooked (before http://puu.sh/s4KT , after http://puu.sh/s4KO )
00:47:076 (4,5,6) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4M2 , after http://puu.sh/s4LB )
01:09:276 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4MK , after http://puu.sh/s4MZ )
01:33:576 (1) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4Nt , after http://puu.sh/s4Nw )

And one more: do all cirles like a this modding for better look.
You can`t give kudosu if I help is not the topic (I think what it is your mapping style, yes?)
Topic Starter
Metaforce

crabovan wrote:

Hello again :D I found a few more bugs (sorry for my slowpoking)

Firebird

00:42:876 (4) - why it have 2 white points? http://puu.sh/s4Fn changed
00:58:776 (1,2,3,4,5) - it`s a little crooked (before http://puu.sh/s4EZ , after http://puu.sh/s4Ff ) changed
01:17:976 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4FP , after http://puu.sh/s4G7 ) changed
01:20:076 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4GU ,after http://puu.sh/s4GN ) changed
01:33:576 (1,2,3) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4He , after http://puu.sh/s4HB ) changed
01:34:176 (4,5,6) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4HF , after http://puu.sh/s4I7 ) changed
01:34:776 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4Ih , after http://puu.sh/s4IP ) changed

Phoenix

00:30:876 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - - it`s a little crooked (before http://puu.sh/s4KT , after http://puu.sh/s4KO ) changed
00:47:076 (4,5,6) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4M2 , after http://puu.sh/s4LB ) changed
01:09:276 (5,6,7,8,9) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4MK , after http://puu.sh/s4MZ ) changed
01:33:576 (1) - ^ (before http://puu.sh/s4Nt , after http://puu.sh/s4Nw ) changed

And one more: do all cirles like a this modding for better look.
You can`t give kudosu if I help is not the topic (I think what it is your mapping style, yes?)
And also thank you very much for this mod. :)
_KcN_
Hello! From #modreq
I am Newbie Modder :D

General
  1. BG is 1024*768,Change it to 800*600
  2. 00:09:576 - 00:20:376 Phoenix map it and other diffs not.I think other 3 diffs should map there too.
Firebug
  1. 00:23:376 - Add note?
  2. 00:39:576 (1) - how about let this sponner finish at 00:41:376?
  3. 00:49:176 (1) - how about change rhythm to this: http://puu.sh/szlu
  4. 00:51:576 (1,2,3) - how about change rhythm to this: http://puu.sh/szmy
  5. 00:55:176 - Add note?
  6. 01:25:176 (3,1,2,3) - how about change rhythm to this: http://puu.sh/sznR
  7. and the breaktime looks too long?
Firefly
  1. 00:23:376 - Add note?
  2. 00:32:076 - Add note?
Firebird
  1. 00:21:876 (8,9) - how about change to this: http://puu.sh/szsP
  2. and i think this diff need more slider
Phoenix
  1. i think this diff need more streams and jump to make it harder ;)
  2. how about move the greenline at 00:20:076 to 00:20:301?
  3. 00:20:076 (1) - remove NC and add NC at 00:20:376 (3)
  4. 00:20:676 (1) - remove NC
  5. 01:23:226 (12,13,14) - too many whistle.how about remove whistle at 12,13 and add whistle at 01:23:676 (15)?
  6. 01:28:326 (12,13,14) - As above,maybe you can remove a part of whistle
  7. 01:30:276 (7,8,9,10,11) - ^
  8. 01:32:376 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - ^
  9. 01:30:126 (6) - this note is hard to read,move it out?
  10. 01:30:876 - Add note?
Awesome song and I like it.Good Luck! ;)
Topic Starter
Metaforce

_KcN_ wrote:

Hello! From #modreq
I am Newbie Modder :D

General
  1. BG is 1024*768,Change it to 800*600

    Autonom wrote:

    General
    The resolution isn't right, It should be 1024x768
  2. 00:09:576 - 00:20:376 Phoenix map it and other diffs not.I think other 3 diffs should map there too. I did not want to map this part in the easier diffs, because I wanted Phoenix to be the longest and most difficult map
Firebug
  1. 00:23:376 - Add note? changed
  2. 00:39:576 (1) - how about let this sponner finish at 00:41:376? won't change this, because the distance between the spinner and the first hitcircle after the spinner on the timeline would be too short
  3. 00:49:176 (1) - how about change rhythm to this: http://puu.sh/szlu won't change this
  4. 00:51:576 (1,2,3) - how about change rhythm to this: http://puu.sh/szmy ^
  5. 00:55:176 - Add note? ^
  6. 01:25:176 (3,1,2,3) - how about change rhythm to this: http://puu.sh/sznR changed
  7. and the breaktime looks too long? in my opinion it's ok
Firefly
  1. 00:23:376 - Add note? won't change this
  2. 00:32:076 - Add note? won't change this
Firebird
  1. 00:21:876 (8,9) - how about change to this: http://puu.sh/szsP changed
  2. and i think this diff need more slider I don't think so
Phoenix
  1. i think this diff need more streams and jump to make it harder ;) I know, but I don't know where^^
  2. how about move the greenline at 00:20:076 to 00:20:301? nope, this is alright
  3. 00:20:076 (1) - remove NC and add NC at 00:20:376 (3) won't change this
  4. 00:20:676 (1) - remove NC ^
  5. 01:23:226 (12,13,14) - too many whistle.how about remove whistle at 12,13 and add whistle at 01:23:676 (15)? changed
  6. 01:28:326 (12,13,14) - As above,maybe you can remove a part of whistlechanged
  7. 01:30:276 (7,8,9,10,11) - ^ changed
  8. 01:32:376 (7,8,9,10,11,12) - ^ changed
  9. 01:30:126 (6) - this note is hard to read,move it out? moved it to another position
  10. 01:30:876 - Add note? changed
Awesome song and I like it.Good Luck! ;)
Thank you very much for the mod. :D
[Luanny]
Lapfox on tags? o3o
also... the last inherited section is unsnapped in all diffs D: I think it was supposed to be on 01:35:976
and only one suggestion for Phoenix
00:39:576 (3) - One more reverse so it ends up here 00:39:876
(Sounds really better)

so, good luck o3o
I love this song <3
Topic Starter
Metaforce

[Luanny PhNyx] wrote:

Lapfox on tags? o3o
also... the last inherited section is unsnapped in all diffs D: I think it was supposed to be on 01:35:976
and only one suggestion for Phoenix
00:39:576 (3) - One more reverse so it ends up here 00:39:876
(Sounds really better)

so, good luck o3o
I love this song <3
ok, I added Lapfox on the tags, snapped the timing section, changed the slider and added your taiko map.

Again: thank you very much for the taiko map. :D
GamerX4life
My Mod:

[Firebug]
  1. 00:22:176 (4) Slider (from 00:22:176 to 00:22:476) instead
  2. 00:29:076 ugly slider try this:
    184,128,29076,2,2,B|144:120|104:144,3,80
  3. 00:32:976 same
  4. 00:37:176 spacing
  5. 00:49:176 ugly imo
  6. 00:49:176 try this: http://puu.sh/vMBd
  7. 01:28:476 add note
[Firefly]
  1. 00:21:876 (4) repeat the slider
  2. 00:38:676 try this: http://puu.sh/vMI1
  3. 00:54:876 (3) try to avoid this touch
  4. 01:27:876 put (5) at this point and add a note at 01:28:476
  5. 01:29:676 same
  6. 01:35:826 add note
[Phoenix]
  1. all Diffs should start at the same time... and should have breaks at the same time...
  2. 00:11:976 (1) ugly try this:
    72,224,11976,6,0,B|102:205|140:224|177:267|140:310|102:329|72:310,2,200
  3. 01:04:626 (6) delete it
  4. 01:08:076 add note
[Firebird]
  1. 00:17:976 (4,...,10) Slider instead (?)
  2. 00:18:576 add clap
  3. 00:45:426 delete note
  4. 00:54:876 try this: http://puu.sh/vN1C
Good Luck
Topic Starter
Metaforce

GamerX4life wrote:

My Mod:

[Firebug]
  1. 00:22:176 (4) Slider (from 00:22:176 to 00:22:476) instead changed
  2. 00:29:076 ugly slider try this:
    184,128,29076,2,2,B|144:120|104:144,3,80
    changed
  3. 00:32:976 same changed
  4. 00:37:176 spacing changed
  5. 00:49:176 ugly imo changed the slider a bit
  6. 00:49:176 try this: http://puu.sh/vMBd changed
  7. 01:28:476 add note changed
[Firefly]
  1. 00:21:876 (4) repeat the slider changed
  2. 00:38:676 try this: http://puu.sh/vMI1 changed
  3. 00:54:876 (3) try to avoid this touch changed
  4. 01:27:876 put (5) at this point and add a note at 01:28:476 changed
  5. 01:29:676 same changed
  6. 01:35:826 add note changed
[Phoenix]
  1. all Diffs should start at the same time... and should have breaks at the same time... I will keep it my way
  2. 00:11:976 (1) ugly try this:
    72,224,11976,6,0,B|102:205|140:224|177:267|140:310|102:329|72:310,2,200
    changed
  3. 01:04:626 (6) delete it changed and inserted some jumps
  4. 01:08:076 add note changed
[Firebird]
  1. 00:17:976 (4,...,10) Slider instead (?) no, I will keep it that way
  2. 00:18:576 add clap changed
  3. 00:45:426 delete note changed
  4. 00:54:876 try this: http://puu.sh/vN1C changed
Good Luck
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
Pure Force
SPOILER
Firebug
Please follow distance snap in every note, that's all.

SPOILER
Firefly
00:20:376 (2,4) - sliders are ugly
00:25:176 (1,2,3) - ^
00:29:976 (1,3) - ^
00:46:476 (1) - delete this, make 2 short sliders
00:56:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is a big mistake! put more sliders in this combos
01:35:676 (9,10,11) - same grid

SPOILER
Phoenix
00:20:076 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - use more sliders!
00:23:826 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ^
00:37:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this jump is too damn hard, change it!
00:37:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:17:676 (6) - new combo
01:20:376 (10) - ^
01:21:876 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - try to put 1 or 2 slider

SPOILER
Firebird
01:27:576 (3,4,5,6,7) - change this jump at better one.
use some more sliders, that's all

you have a big problem, too much circle and less slider? that's not good. Try to use more sliders in some places.
Topic Starter
Metaforce

Pure Force wrote:

SPOILER
Firebug
Please follow distance snap in every note, that's all.

SPOILER
Firefly
00:20:376 (2,4) - sliders are ugly changed
00:25:176 (1,2,3) - ^ changed
00:29:976 (1,3) - ^ changed
00:46:476 (1) - delete this, make 2 short sliders just changed the shape of the slider
00:56:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is a big mistake! put more sliders in this combos changed
01:35:676 (9,10,11) - same grid

SPOILER
Phoenix
00:20:076 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - use more sliders! won't change this
00:23:826 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - ^ ^
00:37:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this jump is too damn hard, change it! won't change this, this is an Insane, so the difficulty is ok
00:37:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ (...?) ^
01:17:676 (6) - new combo changed
01:20:376 (10) - ^ changed
01:21:876 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - try to put 1 or 2 sliderI think it fits well, so won't change this

SPOILER
Firebird
01:27:576 (3,4,5,6,7) - change this jump at better one. changed
use some more sliders, that's all

you have a big problem, too much circle and less slider? that's not good. Try to use more sliders in some places. this sure will be better in my next maps
also thanks for your mod
Marcin
[Firebug]
Beat snap divisor - you can use 1/2 for easy
00:20:976 (2,3) - nazi mod - spacing\ :D/
00:31:176 (2,3) - ^
01:16:776 (1,2) - ^
01:19:776 (2,3) - ^
01:29:976 (3) - Feels strange
[Firefly]
again nazi spacing mods:
00:32:976 (3,4,5) - ^
01:20:076 (2) - ^
01:29:076 (2,3,5,6) - ^ (or you can use diffrent spacing for (1),(2))
00:46:476 (1) - you can use moar curves points to make this look better.
[Phoenix]
Great map <3
00:15:576 (7) - ~~opinion - ugly slider :<
00:17:376 (3,4) - NAZI SPACING OMG OMG
00:20:826 (2,3) - ^
00:23:226 (3,4) - ^
00:24:126 (8,9) - ^
00:30:276 (2,3) - REALLY NAZI ^ :D
00:32:676 (2,3) - ^
00:33:576 (8,9) - ^
00:36:276 (6,7) - again really nazi ^
00:51:876 (3,4,5,6) - ^
01:17:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
01:04:476 (5,6,7,8) - ~opinion - strange spacing
~~~means nothin :D 00:37:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - don't even trying to nazi this
00:38:226 (8,9,10,11) -
[Firebird]
looks fine~
Star~~
Topic Starter
Metaforce

Marcin wrote:

[Firebug]
Beat snap divisor - you can use 1/2 for easy
00:20:976 (2,3) - nazi mod - spacing\ :D/ changed
00:31:176 (2,3) - ^ changed
01:16:776 (1,2) - ^ changed
01:19:776 (2,3) - ^ changed
01:29:976 (3) - Feels strange changed
[Firefly]
again nazi spacing mods:
00:32:976 (3,4,5) - ^ changed
01:20:076 (2) - ^ changed
01:29:076 (2,3,5,6) - ^ (or you can use diffrent spacing for (1),(2)) changed
00:46:476 (1) - you can use moar curves points to make this look better. changed
[Phoenix]
Great map <3
00:15:576 (7) - ~~opinion - ugly slider :< changed
00:17:376 (3,4) - NAZI SPACING OMG OMG changed
00:20:826 (2,3) - ^ changed
00:23:226 (3,4) - ^ changed
00:24:126 (8,9) - ^ changed
00:30:276 (2,3) - REALLY NAZI ^ :D changed
00:32:676 (2,3) - ^ changed
00:33:576 (8,9) - ^ changed
00:36:276 (6,7) - again really nazi ^ changed
00:51:876 (3,4,5,6) - ^ changed
01:17:676 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ changed
01:04:476 (5,6,7,8) - ~opinion - strange spacing made it to a different jump
~~~means nothin :D 00:37:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - don't even trying to nazi this won't change something there
00:38:226 (8,9,10,11) -
changed
[Firebird]
looks fine~
Star~~
Thank you for modding and also thank you very much for the star. :D
RikiH_
Hi from #modreqs o/
I'm not the best modder but I hope I'm helpful. Sorry for my horrible english.

Firebug

01:29:976 (3,4,5) - Maybe this part is a little confusing for a newbie player... (Just a suggestion)

Firefly

00:27:576 (1) - I don't like this slider's shape, can you make it like the sliders at 00:25:176 (1,2,3) ?
00:32:076 - Can you add a note here?
00:34:776 (1) - I don't like this slider's shape, can you change it?
01:18:876 - Add a note here D:

Firebird

Fine :)

Phoenix

00:52:176 (4) - Move this note to x:232 y:280
00:52:326 (5) - Move this note to x:288 y:336
01:17:526 - Add a note here
01:18:726 - Add a note here
01:21:126 - Add a note D:
01:23:526 - Add a note

I'm sorry but I can't mod Taiko :C
Again: I'm hope I'm helpful D:
Check out my map if you want t/87094

Byee :D
Topic Starter
Metaforce

RikiH_ wrote:

Hi from #modreqs o/
I'm not the best modder but I hope I'm helpful. Sorry for my horrible english.

Firebug

01:29:976 (3,4,5) - Maybe this part is a little confusing for a newbie player... (Just a suggestion) I think it's ok this way

Firefly

00:27:576 (1) - I don't like this slider's shape, can you make it like the sliders at 00:25:176 (1,2,3) ? changed
00:32:076 - Can you add a note here? changed
00:34:776 (1) - I don't like this slider's shape, can you change it? tried a different one
01:18:876 - Add a note here D: changed

Firebird

Fine :)

Phoenix

00:52:176 (4) - Move this note to x:232 y:280 changed
00:52:326 (5) - Move this note to x:288 y:336 changed
01:17:526 - Add a note here changed
01:18:726 - Add a note here changed
01:21:126 - Add a note D: changed
01:23:526 - Add a note changed

I'm sorry but I can't mod Taiko :C
Again: I'm hope I'm helpful D:
Check out my map if you want t/87094

Byee :D
Thank you very much for the mod. :D
h-728
Hi~ from modreq

[General]
  • Taiko's timing section is at 00:08:376
    other's at 00:09:576
[Firebug]
  • 00:32:976 (5) - I think it is better to divide two sliders and one note.
    00:59:976 (3) -
    01:29:376 (2) - covered with hitburst. in normal(or Easy), it's better to make notes visible.
    01:29:976 (3) - kick slider and reverse, may be difficult for new player.
[Firefly]
  • 00:32:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,) - I want some pattern here, like...
    01:17:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
    01:34:476 (6) - 1grid above and adjust to put 01:32:376 (3,5,7) to the same distance.
[Phoenix]
  • 00:15:276 (5) - 1grid down
    01:14:376 (1,1) - unify
    consecutive whistle sound so loudly. consider decrease them.
[Firebird]
  • 00:39:651 (1) - end at 00:41:676
    00:53:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think this hitsounds pattern is pretty good. use them in other place more!
    01:14:376 (1,1) - unify
nice song!
gl

p.s. sorry for my mistake!
firebug - 00:59:976 (3) ⇒ same as above
Topic Starter
Metaforce

h-728 wrote:

Hi~ from modreq

[General]
  • Taiko's timing section is at 00:08:376
    other's at 00:09:576
[Firebug]
  • 00:32:976 (5) - I think it is better to divide two sliders and one note. divided it into 2 sliders and added 2 notes
    00:59:976 (3) - ...?
    01:29:376 (2) - covered with hitburst. in normal(or Easy), it's better to make notes visible. changed
    01:29:976 (3) - kick slider and reverse, may be difficult for new player. changed
[Firefly]
  • 00:32:376 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,) - I want some pattern here, like... changed
    01:17:076 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ changed
    01:34:476 (6) - 1grid above and adjust to put 01:32:376 (3,5,7) to the same distance. changed
[Phoenix]
  • 00:15:276 (5) - 1grid down changed
    01:14:376 (1,1) - unify won't change this
    consecutive whistle sound so loudly. consider decrease them. won't change this, unless another modder mentions it
[Firebird]
  • 00:39:651 (1) - end at 00:41:676 changed
    00:53:976 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I think this hitsounds pattern is pretty good. use them in other place more! added it to the following 2 combos
    01:14:376 (1,1) - unify changed
nice song!
gl
thank you very much for the mod. :D

and also thanks for the star :D
akrolsmir
Going to test ModTrace on your map, so don't be overwhelmed by the "Move Node"... xP

AIBat v3.0 wrote:

[Skin/SB]
Unused Image Files
taiko\taikobg.png

[All .osu Files]
Timing Sections
Inconsistency in uninherited (red) timing sections:

- [Firebird]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

- [Firebug]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

- [Firefly]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

- [PhNyx's Taiko Oni]
Red timing sections at:
00:08:376, BPM of 200.000

- [Phoenix]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

[ModTrace]
Firebird
00:36:426 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:184 y:240}, move node #3 to {x:232 y:240}, move node #4 to {x:248 y:272}.
00:59:976 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:424 y:288}.
01:26:376 (1) - Move node #2 to {x:368 y:24}, move node #3 to {x:344 y:64}.
01:26:976 (2) - Move node #2 to {x:272 y:48}.
01:27:576 (3) - Move node #2 to {x:168 y:128}.
01:28:326 (6) - Move to {x:288 y:168}.
01:29:226 (2) - Move node #1 to {x:144 y:192}, move node #2 to {x:168 y:224}, move node #3 to {x:216 y:224}.
01:29:976 (4) - Move node #2 to {x:328 y:272}, move node #3 to {x:352 y:232}.
01:31:476 (2) - Move to {x:472 y:64}.

Firebug
00:23:976 - Pretty sliders like this are good, try and use more of them!
00:29:076 (4) - Don't make sliders that repeat more than once on easy diffs, they're unexpected and tend to confuse newbies.
00:49:176 (2) - ^
00:59:976 (3) - ^
01:22:776 (3,3) - ^
00:43:176 (3) - Move to {x:384 y:208}.

Firefly
00:30:876 (2) - Move to {x:160 y:128}.
00:57:276 (4) - Move node #2 to {x:128 y:256}.
00:57:276 (4,6,3) - IMO the pinched shape of these sliders is ugly.
00:58:176 (6) - Move node #2 to {x:-16 y:176}.

00:59:826 (4) - Remove this circle.
00:59:976 (5) - Move to {x:224 y:192}.

Phoenix
00:15:576 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:280 y:112}, move node #3 to {x:408 y:240}, move node #4 to {x:408 y:112}.
00:42:876 (3) - Move node #2 to {x:392 y:296}, move node #3 to {x:400 y:248}.
00:44:376 (1,4) - Use copies of 00:44:976 (3) here.
01:05:676 (1) - Move node #2 to {x:512 y:240}.
01:06:876 (4) - Move node #2 to {x:48 y:56}.
01:11:676 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:272 y:24}.
So delete the taiko folder since it's not needed, and why not just start all the timing sections at 00:08:376 or 00:09:576?

General comments: Some of your sliders were really pretty and symmetrical- you could tell which ones you had spent effort on, so try and spend that effort on more of them (many of the short sliders looked off, I tried to correct some in my mod). For the most part the rhythm of the mapping made sense, but you could work on better-looking and more fun to play patterns; much of the time I couldn't see any pattern at all, which is a definite problem.

Thanks for being a guinea pig. Take a star and my best wishes!
Topic Starter
Metaforce

akrolsmir wrote:

Going to test ModTrace on your map, so don't be overwhelmed by the "Move Node"... xP

AIBat v3.0 wrote:

[Skin/SB]
Unused Image Files
taiko\taikobg.png don't have such a folder here...maybe I already deleted it

[All .osu Files]
Timing Sections
Inconsistency in uninherited (red) timing sections:

- [Firebird]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

- [Firebug]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

- [Firefly]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

- [PhNyx's Taiko Oni]
Red timing sections at:
00:08:376, BPM of 200.000 changed the timing here

- [Phoenix]
Red timing sections at:
00:09:576, BPM of 200.000

[ModTrace]
Firebird
00:36:426 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:184 y:240}, move node #3 to {x:232 y:240}, move node #4 to {x:248 y:272}. changed
00:59:976 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:424 y:288}. changed
01:26:376 (1) - Move node #2 to {x:368 y:24}, move node #3 to {x:344 y:64}. changed
01:26:976 (2) - Move node #2 to {x:272 y:48}. changed
01:27:576 (3) - Move node #2 to {x:168 y:128}. changed
01:28:326 (6) - Move to {x:288 y:168}. changed
01:29:226 (2) - Move node #1 to {x:144 y:192}, move node #2 to {x:168 y:224}, move node #3 to {x:216 y:224}. changed
01:29:976 (4) - Move node #2 to {x:328 y:272}, move node #3 to {x:352 y:232}. changed
01:31:476 (2) - Move to {x:472 y:64}. changed

Firebug
00:23:976 - Pretty sliders like this are good, try and use more of them!
00:29:076 (4) - Don't make sliders that repeat more than once on easy diffs, they're unexpected and tend to confuse newbies. changed
00:49:176 (2) - ^ changed
00:59:976 (3) - ^ changed
01:22:776 (3,3) - ^ won't change it here, because it fits well
00:43:176 (3) - Move to {x:384 y:208}. changed

Firefly
00:30:876 (2) - Move to {x:160 y:128}. changed
00:57:276 (4) - Move node #2 to {x:128 y:256}. changed
00:57:276 (4,6,3) - IMO the pinched shape of these sliders is ugly. I will keep it that way
00:58:176 (6) - Move node #2 to {x:-16 y:176}. changed

00:59:826 (4) - Remove this circle. changed
00:59:976 (5) - Move to {x:224 y:192}. changed

Phoenix
00:15:576 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:280 y:112}, move node #3 to {x:408 y:240}, move node #4 to {x:408 y:112}. changed
00:42:876 (3) - Move node #2 to {x:392 y:296}, move node #3 to {x:400 y:248}. changed
00:44:376 (1,4) - Use copies of 00:44:976 (3) here. changed
01:05:676 (1) - Move node #2 to {x:512 y:240}. changed
01:06:876 (4) - Move node #2 to {x:48 y:56}. changed
01:11:676 (7) - Move node #2 to {x:272 y:24}. changed
So delete the taiko folder since it's not needed, and why not just start all the timing sections at 00:08:376 or 00:09:576? both already done

General comments: Some of your sliders were really pretty and symmetrical- you could tell which ones you had spent effort on, so try and spend that effort on more of them (many of the short sliders looked off, I tried to correct some in my mod). For the most part the rhythm of the mapping made sense, but you could work on better-looking and more fun to play patterns; much of the time I couldn't see any pattern at all, which is a definite problem.
Yeah, as I already said, I'm not a very experienced mapper, but I already try to use some better and more fun patterns and much better slider shapes in my upcoming maps, so these will be much better than this one. ;) I still try to figure out some fun-to-play-patterns.

Thanks for being a guinea pig. Take a star and my best wishes!
Thank you very much for this mod and the star. Both are very appreciated. :D
akrolsmir
I redownloaded and still see the taiko folder with a BG in it, so try a full resubmit.
Topic Starter
Metaforce
ok, done.
I hope, it's better now.
akrolsmir
Looks fine now.

Also, I see that you haven't posted in any modding queues- try giving those a try to get more mods!
Topic Starter
Metaforce
Thanks for your advice, maybe I will look into some modding queues in the next time.
yeahyeahyeahhh
Random mod

Firebird:
00:10:026 - Add a note? Similar to what u did 00:14:676 (2,3,4,5,6,7). Kinda was expecting a note here.

Phoenix:
00:39:576 (3) - End this repeat here 00:39:876 (listen on 25%)
01:01:026 (1) - This is isn't the right snap. There is no 1/8th at this part. This slider should be 1/4 and should start 01:00:951 like this:

01:03:276 - Add a note here? To continue following the Nintendo sound.
01:12:876 - ^

Firefly:
Fine

Firebird:
You may want to increase you distance snap on this map. .6 seems too small for the slider velocity you're using and makes the notes seem REALLY cramped and smushed. I suggest maybe using a 1.0 or .8 DS and move your notes around a bit to make the easy flow a bit better. Right now with the low DS and the SV it feels like you're hovering over the note waiting forever to hit it.
Topic Starter
Metaforce

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Random mod

Firebird:
00:10:026 - Add a note? Similar to what u did 00:14:676 (2,3,4,5,6,7). Kinda was expecting a note here. changed

Phoenix:
00:39:576 (3) - End this repeat here 00:39:876 changed (listen on 25%)...?
01:01:026 (1) - This is isn't the right snap. There is no 1/8th at this part. This slider should be 1/4 and should start 01:00:951 like this: changed

01:03:276 - Add a note here? To continue following the Nintendo sound. changed
01:12:876 - ^ changed

Firefly:
Fine

Firebird:
You may want to increase you distance snap on this map. .6 seems too small for the slider velocity you're using and makes the notes seem REALLY cramped and smushed. I suggest maybe using a 1.0 or .8 DS and move your notes around a bit to make the easy flow a bit better. Right now with the low DS and the SV it feels like you're hovering over the note waiting forever to hit it. I think, I will keep this, though
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
TheVileOne
Random mod

Firebug

00:20:376 (1,2,3) - The difference between these notes is so small, might as well just make them straight.
00:22:176 (4) - Make this more symmetrical.
00:22:776 (5) - New combo.
00:23:976 (1) - remove new combo.
00:26:376 (5) - new combo.
00:29:976 (5) - Part of next combo.
00:32:376 (5) - new combo.
00:39:576 (1) - I don't like that I'm not really spinning to anything and it doesn't end in any meaningful way. I would just delete and have a gap. Just map up to the spinner start.
00:41:976 (1,2,3,4) - Slant is too flat. Add more shape to these. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/397793
00:49:176 (2) - Place middle move point in center of slider.
00:51:576 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I just love this part.

Firefly

00:20:376 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The speed of those sliders just kills the flow here. 0.8 snap is a little better, but really the flow issues don't go away unless it's 1.0 snap.
01:01:176 - Add note?
01:21:276 - It would sound better with a note. just my opinion....
01:23:676 - ^
01:27:876 (4,5,1) - Should look more like 01:29:676 (4,5,6) - IMO
01:33:276 (4) - clap?
01:34:476 (6) - remove clap
01:35:676 (9) - Add clap

Phoenix

Drain -1.

00:14:376 (1,2) - spacing
00:14:976 (4,5,6,7) - I wish you used more symmetry.
00:23:376 (4,5) - Make exactly 0.8
00:23:826 (6,7) - ^
00:35:076 (2) - slider could be better. Try to match 00:35:676 (4) -
00:39:576 (3) - End here 00:39:801 -? Sounds better.
00:40:026 (1) - Start 1/2th beat earlier.
00:42:876 (3) - Make sure this is symmetrical and it's perfectly vertical.
00:51:876 (3) - Bad looking slider.
00:52:476 (6) - ^
Same goes for any other sliders that look like that.
00:54:876 (6) - symmetry is off.
00:59:676 (6) - Could be more symmetrical. the more even the move points the better the slider.
01:18:876 (9) - sounds bad. Doesn't have a follow up hitsound rhythm. In other words you only had claps like this once.
01:20:076 (9) - symmetry!!!
01:26:376 (1) - maybe this should be a slider. I'm not sure though.
01:27:726 (8,9,10,11) - Make shape perfect. line these 01:28:326 (12,13,14) - back up after
01:30:276 (7) - Move to x 288 y 104 to fix alignment.
01:34:176 (3) - symmetry?

Conclusion

Work on your polish. You have the beat down, now you need to make everything look nice.
Topic Starter
Metaforce

TheVileOne wrote:

Random mod

Firebug

00:20:376 (1,2,3) - The difference between these notes is so small, might as well just make them straight. changed
00:22:176 (4) - Make this more symmetrical. changed
00:22:776 (5) - New combo. changed
00:23:976 (1) - remove new combo. changed
00:26:376 (5) - new combo. changed
00:29:976 (5) - Part of next combo. changed
00:32:376 (5) - new combo. changed
00:39:576 (1) - I don't like that I'm not really spinning to anything and it doesn't end in any meaningful way. I would just delete and have a gap. Just map up to the spinner start. changed
00:41:976 (1,2,3,4) - Slant is too flat. Add more shape to these. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/397793 changed
00:49:176 (2) - Place middle move point in center of slider. changed
00:51:576 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I just love this part. glad you like it

Firefly

00:20:376 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The speed of those sliders just kills the flow here. 0.8 snap is a little better, but really the flow issues don't go away unless it's 1.0 snap. I think I will keep it this way, though
01:01:176 - Add note? changed
01:21:276 - It would sound better with a note. just my opinion.... changed
01:23:676 - ^ changed
01:27:876 (4,5,1) - Should look more like 01:29:676 (4,5,6) - IMO I will keep it as it is
01:33:276 (4) - clap? changed
01:34:476 (6) - remove clap changed
01:35:676 (9) - Add clap changed

Phoenix

Drain -1. I find it good as it is now

00:14:376 (1,2) - spacing changed
00:14:976 (4,5,6,7) - I wish you used more symmetry. changed
00:23:376 (4,5) - Make exactly 0.8 changed
00:23:826 (6,7) - ^ changed
00:35:076 (2) - slider could be better. Try to match 00:35:676 (4) - changed
00:39:576 (3) - End here 00:39:801 -? Sounds better. changed
00:40:026 (1) - Start 1/2th beat earlier. changed
00:42:876 (3) - Make sure this is symmetrical and it's perfectly vertical. changed
00:51:876 (3) - Bad looking slider. changed
00:52:476 (6) - ^ changed
Same goes for any other sliders that look like that.
00:54:876 (6) - symmetry is off. changed
00:59:676 (6) - Could be more symmetrical. the more even the move points the better the slider. changed
01:18:876 (9) - sounds bad. Doesn't have a follow up hitsound rhythm. In other words you only had claps like this once. deleted the clap in the middle of the slider
01:20:076 (9) - symmetry!!! changed
01:26:376 (1) - maybe this should be a slider. I'm not sure though. changed
01:27:726 (8,9,10,11) - Make shape perfect. line these 01:28:326 (12,13,14) - back up after changed
01:30:276 (7) - Move to x 288 y 104 to fix alignment. changed
01:34:176 (3) - symmetry? changed

Conclusion

Work on your polish. You have the beat down, now you need to make everything look nice.
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
Topic Starter
Metaforce
Taiko removed due to [Luanny PhNyx]'s request.
wmfchris
[Firebird]
few points to note:
- HP 5 is too low for such a difficulty.
- use consistent spacing unless the song sounds like it's a jump. For example 00:09:876 (2,3,4) - should hv the same spacing with 00:10:476 (5,6,7) - .
- Avoid too much stacking like 00:25:476 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - , you can create better flow than stacking (also the music don't sound like you need to stack so much)
- Sometimes stacking also refer to sth like 00:57:876 (8,9,10,11,1,2) -, make better use of the whole screen and the map can look better
- 01:01:997 - the break is too long
- Other than putting all 1/2 streams into V-shape curving them is an alternative choices.

[Phoneix]
00:36:876 - clap missed?
00:54:276 (3,4,5,6) - notes can't simutaneously start together.

Just checking this roughly, my feeling is like there's no big difference with [firebird] but slightly larger spacing and a bit more 1/4 streams, however the placement problem is still the same. Some overlapping doesn't look very good as well, like 01:29:376 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -

[Firefly]
Why don't you map the intro part?
- Assuming the map as a normal diff the sldier is too fast... considering the change of slider you may hv to remapping this in a rather large scale :x

[Firebug]
- Increasing the spacing slightly is acceptable, otherwise when the spacing of stuffs become too small it overlaps and creates difficulties to read the map.

[Taiko]
00:29:076 - patterns 3 in a group does not fit 1/4 based music very well, in particular there isn't significant streamy beat here, and the overall stream might be too much.
00:39:576 - Why this part isn't slowed down?
00:55:176 - you didn't put finishes on similar melody elsewhere, same here

That's it, you will need some more work in the solo diffs, and good luck.
Topic Starter
Metaforce

wmfchris wrote:

[Firebird]
few points to note:
- HP 5 is too low for such a difficulty. set it to 6
- use consistent spacing unless the song sounds like it's a jump. For example 00:09:876 (2,3,4) - should hv the same spacing with 00:10:476 (5,6,7) - . changed 00:10:476 (5,6,7)
- Avoid too much stacking like 00:25:476 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - , you can create better flow than stacking (also the music don't sound like you need to stack so much) changed
- Sometimes stacking also refer to sth like 00:57:876 (8,9,10,11,1,2) -, make better use of the whole screen and the map can look better
- 01:01:997 - the break is too long set a triplet at the beginning of the break, but will keep the rest of the break as it is
- Other than putting all 1/2 streams into V-shape curving them is an alternative choices. won't change anything here, but will keep it in mind for future maps

[Phoneix]
00:36:876 - clap missed? clap added
00:54:276 (3,4,5,6) - notes can't simutaneously start together. really don't know, what happened here - fixed, of course

Just checking this roughly, my feeling is like there's no big difference with [firebird] but slightly larger spacing and a bit more 1/4 streams, however the placement problem is still the same. Some overlapping doesn't look very good as well, like 01:29:376 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - changed this, didn't find any more examples of extreme overlapping notes

[Firefly]
Why don't you map the intro part?

Metaforce wrote:

I did not want to map this part in the easier diffs, because I wanted Phoenix to be the longest and most difficult map

- Assuming the map as a normal diff the sldier is too fast... considering the change of slider you may hv to remapping this in a rather large scale :x changed and mostly remapped

[Firebug]
- Increasing the spacing slightly is acceptable, otherwise when the spacing of stuffs become too small it overlaps and creates difficulties to read the map. didn't change anything here

[Taiko]
00:29:076 - patterns 3 in a group does not fit 1/4 based music very well, in particular there isn't significant streamy beat here, and the overall stream might be too much.
00:39:576 - Why this part isn't slowed down?
00:55:176 - you didn't put finishes on similar melody elsewhere, same here
ignored due to removal of Taiko

That's it, you will need some more work in the solo diffs, and good luck.
Thank you very much for your mod. Very appreciated. :D
GreyWarrior
Hi,
Here's my mod

[Firebug]

00:37:176 (1,2,3) - delete this and use a slider better like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/400568
01:01:176 - remove clap

[Firefly]

00:46:476 (1) - move to 00:46:776 and remove reverse. sounds better
00:57:576 - 1 grid left
01:35:676 (9) - remove clap
01:35:976 (11) - ^

[Phoenix]

00:30:876 - NC
00:33:126 - ^
01:09:276 - ^
01:11:676 - ^
01:22:476 - ^
01:27:276 - ^
01:30:276 - ^
01:32:376 - ^

[Firebird]

00:17:976 - NC
00:22:026 (9) - Remove clap
00:58:776 (1,2,3,4,5) - Don't overlap
01:20:076 - NC
01:32:226 - ^

That's all
Good luck with ranking 8-)
[Luanny]
;_;
Topic Starter
Metaforce

kratozjc wrote:

Hi,
Here's my mod

[Firebug]

00:37:176 (1,2,3) - delete this and use a slider better like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/400568 changed
01:01:176 - remove clap changed

[Firefly]

00:46:476 (1) - move to 00:46:776 and remove reverse. sounds better changed
00:57:576 - 1 grid left changed
01:35:676 (9) - remove clap changed
01:35:976 (11) - ^ changed

[Phoenix]

00:30:876 - NC changed
00:33:126 - ^ changed
01:09:276 - ^ changed
01:11:676 - ^ changed
01:22:476 - ^ changed
01:27:276 - ^ changed
01:30:276 - ^ changed
01:32:376 - ^ changed

[Firebird]

00:17:976 - NC changed
00:22:026 (9) - Remove clap changed
00:58:776 (1,2,3,4,5) - Don't overlap changed
01:20:076 - NC changed
01:32:226 - ^ changed

That's all
Good luck with ranking 8-)
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
takonodans
[Firebird]
01:00:876 (1,2,3) - add circle 01:01:101 - ,01:01:176 -

[Phoenix]
00:10:776 (7) - new combo?
add circle 00:13:476 - ,00:13:776 - ,00:14:076 -
00:18:276 - add circle?
01:30:576 (5) - Distance slips off a little.

[Firefly]
01:35:676 (9) - nc

[Firebug]
00:39:876 - insert break


noob mod,sorry. fight~
Topic Starter
Metaforce

takonodans wrote:

[Firebird]
01:00:876 (1,2,3) - add circle 01:01:101 - ,01:01:176 - changed

[Phoenix]
00:10:776 (7) - new combo? nope
add circle 00:13:476 - ,00:13:776 - ,00:14:076 - changed
00:18:276 - add circle? nope
01:30:576 (5) - Distance slips off a little. changed

[Firefly]
01:35:676 (9) - nc changed

[Firebug]
00:39:876 - insert break changed


noob mod,sorry. fight~ no problem, every mod helps me to improve my map :D
Thank you for your mod. :D
popner
Hi ~ Mod request from #modreq.

Just suggestions:

[Firebug]
Why intro part is unmapped? It is mapable imo.
00:53:676 - add note to follow the drum?
00:56:076 - 00:58:476 (4) -
01:22:776 (3) - try to avoid using 4 times repeating in low diff. Decrease once repeating then add a note, or change to 2 sliders will be okay.

[Firefly]
Why intro part is unmapped?
00:34:776 (1) - not exactly symmetric. You can use ctrl+H to adjust it
00:43:026 (5) - delete this note or change the triple into a kick slider? This stack is a little difficult, compared with other part of this diff.
00:54:276 (2,3) - a overlap which doesn't looks good.
01:19:176 (1,2) - ^
01:27:876 (4,5) - ^

[Phoenix]
00:24:276 (9) - NC for the star?
00:24:276 (9) - add NC on each of them for complex patterns?
01:28:626 - add a note? Feel empty here

[Firebird]
00:13:176 (4) - use a custom clap? Maybe you can find one here
00:26:976 (9) - stack properly with 00:26:226 (6) or put it away?
00:56:976 (4,7) - try to avoid overlap?

01:26:976 (2,3) - avoid overlap?


That's all I can find. GL~
Topic Starter
Metaforce

popner wrote:

Hi ~ Mod request from #modreq.

Just suggestions:

[Firebug]
Why intro part is unmapped? It is mapable imo. I wanted the more difficult diffs to be longer than the easy ones
00:53:676 - add note to follow the drum? nope
00:56:076 - 00:58:476 (4) -
01:22:776 (3) - try to avoid using 4 times repeating in low diff. Decrease once repeating then add a note, or change to 2 sliders will be okay. changed

[Firefly]
Why intro part is unmapped? ^
00:34:776 (1) - not exactly symmetric. You can use ctrl+H to adjust it still not perfect, but improved it
00:43:026 (5) - delete this note or change the triple into a kick slider? This stack is a little difficult, compared with other part of this diff. I want to keep it this way
00:54:276 (2,3) - a overlap which doesn't looks good. changed
01:19:176 (1,2) - ^ changed
01:27:876 (4,5) - ^ changed

[Phoenix]
00:24:276 (9) - NC for the star? changed
00:24:276 (9) - add NC on each of them for complex patterns? there are no more of them
01:28:626 - add a note? Feel empty here changed

[Firebird]
00:13:176 (4) - use a custom clap? Maybe you can find one here nope
00:26:976 (9) - stack properly with 00:26:226 (6) or put it away? changed
00:56:976 (4,7) - try to avoid overlap? changed

01:26:976 (2,3) - avoid overlap? changed


That's all I can find. GL~
Thank you very much for this mod.
giO-
Hello, from #modreqs


Firebug

Lower diff in a mapset for rank should be at least not more than 3 stars.
There's 3.29, I think you should fix it

Firefly

00:31:776 - add clap here
00:34:776 (1) - delete clap here and leave only whistle
00:35:976 - ^
00:39:576 (1) - move this spinner to 00:39:876 - and make it finish on 00:41:376 - so add a beat here 00:39:576 - http://puu.sh/14gce and add finish on it
00:41:376 - finish instead of clap?
01:14:376 (1) - make this spinner finish on 01:16:476 - and add beat here 01:16:776 - , obviously fix combo if you do that, you can hear it fit better
01:33:576 (5) - remove this overlap with 01:34:776 (7) - http://puu.sh/14ghp

Phoenix

OD -1?

01:19:551 (4) - delete this note
01:25:776 (6) - try to CTRL+H and CTRL+J
01:27:051 - add note
01:27:126 - ^
01:30:276 (1,2,3,4,5) - sound weird, suggest to delete 01:30:501 (4) - and fix spacing on 01:30:576 (5) -

Firebird

00:39:576 (5) - finish instead of whistle?
00:39:576 (5) - same thing i suggested on Firefly diff, just finish the spinner on 01:16:476 - and add beat on 01:16:776 -
01:35:976 - add finish


That's all, good luck.
Topic Starter
Metaforce

giO- wrote:

Hello, from #modreqs


Firebug

Lower diff in a mapset for rank should be at least not more than 3 stars.
There's 3.29, I think you should fix it The star-ranking-system of osu is often strange, as far as I know the diff was considered 3 stars when I first uploaded it. The difficulty of the map did not change at all, so I don't see any necessity to change the map somehow to get the star-ranking-system to consider it 3 stars.

Firefly

00:31:776 - add clap here changed
00:34:776 (1) - delete clap here and leave only whistle changed
00:35:976 - ^ changed
00:39:576 (1) - move this spinner to 00:39:876 - and make it finish on 00:41:376 - so add a beat here 00:39:576 - http://puu.sh/14gce and add finish on it changed
00:41:376 - finish instead of clap? changed
01:14:376 (1) - make this spinner finish on 01:16:476 - and add beat here 01:16:776 - , obviously fix combo if you do that, you can hear it fit better changed
01:33:576 (5) - remove this overlap with 01:34:776 (7) - http://puu.sh/14ghp changed

Phoenix

OD -1? nope

01:19:551 (4) - delete this note changed
01:25:776 (6) - try to CTRL+H and CTRL+J changed
01:27:051 - add note changed
01:27:126 - ^ changed
01:30:276 (1,2,3,4,5) - sound weird, suggest to delete 01:30:501 (4) - and fix spacing on 01:30:576 (5) - changed

Firebird

00:39:576 (5) - finish instead of whistle? changed
00:39:576 (5) - same thing i suggested on Firefly diff, just finish the spinner on 01:16:476 - and add beat on 01:16:776 - changed
01:35:976 - add finish changed


That's all, good luck.
Thank you very much for your mod. :D
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