I would prefer 2 nominators for the main gamemode of the hybrid set, and 1 for every secondary gamemode.
J1NX1337 wrote:
I would prefer 2 nominators for the main gamemode of the hybrid set, and 1 for every secondary gamemode.
this seems like the most logical solution imoJ1NX1337 wrote:
I would prefer 2 nominators for the main gamemode of the hybrid set, and 1 for every secondary gamemode.
Arrival wrote:
BNs, when nominating a hybrid set, always (at least as long as i was in the team as far as i can remember) ask another BN a check up to see if the difficulties they aren't proefficient with are fine, even if there isn't a real nomination behind, i've never ever seen a hybrid set go to ranked without being checked by at least one BN of each mode.
Arrival wrote:
The problem is in the ranking system, not the hybrid set itself lol.
Arrival wrote:
No ? The fault is and has always been always either on the BN of the respective mode, or a problem in communication.
Arrival wrote:
Just make it so the main mode (the one the official mapper made difficulties for) requires 2 nominations and the other ones just 1, but official nominations, not simple check ups.
Mao wrote:
Arrival wrote:
Just make it so the main mode (the one the official mapper made difficulties for) requires 2 nominations and the other ones just 1, but official nominations, not simple check ups.
What if the host maps the same amount of difficulties for every mode present? That would just make it more confusing than it already is.
iYiyo wrote:
Now the question is how you define the main mode of an hybrid set. The one which has more difficulties? The one which has the hardest difficulty? A mix of last two?
J1NX1337 wrote:
I would prefer 2 nominators for the main gamemode of the hybrid set, and 1 for every secondary gamemode.
Sotarks wrote:
I'm aware that it's a bit too much to have 1 per game mode, but I agree that the main game mode should have 2 nominators, and 1 for the other. This will be more fair.
Stefan wrote:
iYiyo wrote:
Now the question is how you define the main mode of an hybrid set. The one which has more difficulties? The one which has the hardest difficulty? A mix of last two?
We could work with these examples:
x Standard diffs, two Taiko diffs (Muzukashii/Oni), two Mania diffs (NM/HD) = 2 Standard BNs, 1 Taiko BN, 1 Mania BN
x Standard diffs, three Taiko diffs (Futsuu/Muzukashii/Oni), four CTB diffs (Cup~Rain) = 2 Standard BNs, 2 Taiko BN, 2 CTB BN
Three Taiko diffs (Futsuu/Muzukashii/Oni), three Mania diffs (NM/HD/MX) = 2 Taiko BN, 2 Mania BNs
Looks complicated but I think it would take away the stupid question what would be considered as main mode. It'd be all these with a complete set that would be rankable when alone as own mapset.
I don't consider the technical aspect how exactly this should work by the forum/system so idk lo
Bubblun wrote:
Having 2 nominations per game mode is unnecessary time added on to hybrid sets. Rather than punishing the mapper for wanting to map a hybrid set, encourage BNs to learn other game modes.
Bubblun wrote:
"Note: If you choose the last option, make sure to explain your point in-depth"
Obvious brain washing. Clearly if these solutions didn't need any more explaining you wouldn't need the community's permission to go through with it. If you don't want this to happen then don't even suggest it at all.
I also agree with this.completely, I feel like getting 2 BNs per mode would be overkill and discourage mappers from making hybrid sets in the long run.J1NX1337 wrote:
I would prefer 2 nominators for the main gamemode of the hybrid set, and 1 for every secondary gamemode.
Idk why you acting like you're the most rational guy here, a bit rude imo lol. Actually Kibbleru describes pretty well why having 2 nominators for each gamemode isn't the best solution here, because of how RC is right now. ->Ascendance wrote:
Think rationally before you type, reducing the amount of BNs for combining sets together makes no sense and will never make sense.
If ranking criteria about hybrid stays the same:Kibbleru wrote:
in my opinion, due to the special spread requirements for hybrid sets (ie u only need 1 ctb diff piggybacking off std)
this causes a confusion with what we should do, obviously it would be ridiculous to ask for two ctb BNs to check one ctb diff.
tbh i would prefer that if we had hybrid diffs, they would all require a full set.
then follow the first proposal.
Yauxo wrote:
If you were to rank each mode as a standalone set, you'd still need two of the respective BNs to check each and qualify. I dont know why this would be an issue if a hybrid set followed the same idea, since it kinda is just that - two standalone modes, but as one set.
Yauxo wrote:
I didnt read through all of it, but I spotted a bit of talk about two BNs per mode being too much. I dont agree with this.
If you were to rank each mode as a standalone set, you'd still need two of the respective BNs to check each and qualify. I dont know why this would be an issue if a hybrid set followed the same idea, since it kinda is just that - two standalone modes, but as one set. It's always possible that a single BN misses something that a second one could catch. Being lazy about catching another BN isnt really ... uh, too much of a thing when quality becomes more and more important.
Anyway, I think I like the idea that was posted in the Discord the most, where you'd need 5 hype and two seperated nominations per mode. Seems like the most fair method to me.
bor wrote:
also think its worth mentioning a number of BNs quite openly say stuff like they don't want to touch hybrid sets lol
so requiring more bns will be pretty annoying