Kael wrote:

Are CtB players even allowed to say sth about this topic?

1. Do you agree that Flashlight score modifier should be lower than DT and Hidden instead of the same?

2. Do you agree that it should be a lower modifier than HR?

3. How often do you use FL? Do you like playing with it, or do you just add it to get extra score?

4. How often do you use FL on your first run of a map? Can you FC a map with FL on the first time you see it?

5. Do you oppose losing scores you have on maps that you cleared with FL?

Glass wrote:

eldnl wrote:

hard=/=long

aweonao

Glass wrote:

It's easy as shit on low combo maps (TVsized crap) and hard on high combo maps

I see you still can't read properly what I said, and by your logic; short maps = hard to FL, long maps = easier to FL?? LOL THIS GUY FOR REAL.

and good job at resorting to insult me in your own language, so here's one for you: 你真是一个大傻逼.

Stick to CTB, standard is obviously too deep for you so stay out of the discussion.

Waryas wrote:

I don't know if its on topic but flashlight is after hidden the easiest mod to cheat and the hardest to detect.
There are just so many means to replicate a legit FL scores it's not even funny.

Aqo wrote:

Some players consider the "Flashlight" mod broken in one way or another.

I think not, FL is just made that way.

The way it works right now, your area of vision gradually grows smaller as you gradually progress through a map with FL.

No, it's getting smaller as your combo goes higher.

Glass wrote:

so here's one for you: 你真是一个大傻逼.

Wishy22 wrote:

Multipliers should be:

DT x1,2
FL x1,15
HR x1,10
HD x,1,05

Glass wrote:

lol? 他又嫌我记录少又用西班牙语骂我怎么变成我屌了，弄清楚在回帖 ok?

Ibuki Suika wrote:

no,his mean is your so awesome

btw,you know chinese? This is clearly better than Googletranslated

Glass wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

Multipliers should be:

DT x1,2
FL x1,15
HR x1,10
HD x,1,05

it's hard to balance mod bonuses because the difficulty varies a lot depending on the songs, HR is easier than DT on high BPM songs but on low BPM songs it's quite the opposite. just like how FL is pretty much free score on low-spacing/short maps yet a grindfest on jumpy/long maps

imo just leave the scores as it is and wasteland this thread, nothing good is coming out of it anyway

thx Fabi, forever scarred whenever I play Lux

Salvage wrote:

Multipliers will probabbly not change, we should stick to the reality and ban cheaters, it's the only viable option i actually find that could solve this problem, flashlight is as hard or even more than dt on hard maps if not cheated on, hidden could be really hard as hr too, there are players who read hardrock like nothing and can actually play it better than no mod, and suck at hidden, the modifiers on hr and hd are fine imo, the thing is FL and it will probabbly not get disabled (if it does then i'm okay with it but i'd rather see some banning action on who corresponds)



@Mesita: It must be easy to record a video using a macro and pretending to play, i really don't find a way you could proove anything other than it being pretty obvious to me, i personally would not need any proof at all and i find it pretty disgusting, but well that's how the system works.

Waryas wrote:

I think flashlight takes more skills than dt on certain maps.

Wishy22 wrote:

FL = cheat mode.

Multipliers should be:

DT x1,2
FL x1,15
HR x1,10
HD x,1,05

Yeah HR + HD giving a little more score than FL, still HR increases OD like shit so getting HR HD 100% is sometimes way more challenging than lol memorizing a map. Doing FL only scores is for pussies who "enjoy it" or for those who can't beat some score and have to use that mod to do it. If you argue playing FL just for fun and not for e-penis, you shouldn't be whining if it gets unranked or just deleted.

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Still it always depends on the map so.

HR's bonus should have some kind of relationship with the map's base OD and CS. Playing HR on OD 6 maps is kind of easy since you can get very high accuracy with no much trouble, but then doing HR on any OD 8 map is hard as hell. CS issue is the same playing some the second highest CS (I mean, the smallest) is hard as shit, while playing I don't know some map with huge circles + HR isn't that hard.

Same applies to FL, the higher the map's combo the higher the bonus should be.

Still going for the first system I said since maps change with time and using a map-related system would need changes frequently, plus it'd be a pain to do because you can't really make some automated shit to judge the bonus FL should give on each map, because you also have to think about spacing (maps like Marisa that have pretty much 2 patterns repeated during 3 minutes are way easier to FL than some jumpy thing).

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BTW eldnl stfu Glass got some quite impressive FL scores, if he could do that I think memorizing some stupid TV Size map would be no trouble, since most of them are not only short but also easy and not that complicated.

eldnl wrote:

derp herp.